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ItsWelshy
Nov 5, 2012, 05:30 AM
I work for a large travel company in the UK, looking at Google Analytics, the average spend on our website is really interesting.

Average spend per device on holidays/flights/booking:

iOS Phones: £352
iOS Tablets: £421
Android Phones: £188
Android Tablets £201

When you think about these statistics, and the amount of Android users that have to flood these forums with their need to compare and ridicule an inferior product, I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.



MNealBarrett
Nov 5, 2012, 05:37 AM
I work for a large travel company in the UK, looking at Google Analytics, the average spend on our website is really interesting.

Average spend per device on holidays/flights/booking:

iOS Phones: £352
iOS Tablets: £421
Android Phones: £188
Android Tablets £201

When you think about these statistics, and the amount of Android users that have to flood these forums with their need to compare and ridicule an inferior product, I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.

People who buy more expensive products have more disposable income!! OH MY, WHAT A CONCEPT!!

Jaffa Cake
Nov 5, 2012, 05:39 AM
...I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.Might it be more so that someone with a higher disposable income would be more inclined to use traditionally pricier Apple products?

StoneJack
Nov 5, 2012, 05:40 AM
Might it be more so that someone with a higher disposable income would be more inclined to use traditionally pricier Apple products?

or traditionally better Apple products? Might be both too.

phobic99
Nov 5, 2012, 05:41 AM
At the end of the day, do you really care about Android users/iOS users? Does anyone really, truly care about this?

I would say this should be the concern but I also suppose people want to feel they made the "right choice" whether it be religion, political figures... Apple/Android products. *shrug*

ItsWelshy
Nov 5, 2012, 05:44 AM
Might it be more so that someone with a higher disposable income would be more inclined to use traditionally pricier Apple products?

The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

children
Nov 5, 2012, 05:47 AM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

you have to understand that some people have different tastes and preferences, learn to respect others decisions, especially when it comes to the little insignificant things in life (gadgets etc)

MNealBarrett
Nov 5, 2012, 05:48 AM
Android tablets are a mixed bag. A lot of crap, especially almost any Android tablet under $190. There are some quality Android tablets, though. I loved my Motorola Xoom, it was awesome. The only reason that I sold it to my brother is that it was just a bit too big, I worried about dropping it. To be fair, I would have had exactly the same problem with an iPad 2 or 3.

Tsuchiya
Nov 5, 2012, 05:54 AM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

Disagree. It comes down to preferences and what people choose to spend their money on. I personally think the Mini is weak and the iPad 4 offers nothing to excite me. It doesn't mean that I can't afford to buy them.

People who defend what phone or tablet they carry so venomously are immature and need a reality check. It works both ways. Die hard Apple fans are just as bad as Android fans eager to force their point across. You all need to grow the **** up.

children
Nov 5, 2012, 05:56 AM
disagree. It comes down to preferences and what people choose to spend their money on. I personally think the mini is weak and the ipad 4 offers nothing to excite me. It doesn't mean that i can't afford to buy them.

People who defend what phone or tablet they carry so venomously are immature and need a reality check. It works both ways. Die hard apple fans are just as bad as android fans eager to force their point across. You all need to grow the **** up.

thank you! ;)

comatose81
Nov 5, 2012, 06:02 AM
LOL... is there anything more idiotic than people arguing/insulting each other over what brand of device the buy? Goodness.

These companies are laughing all the way to the bank

miniConvert
Nov 5, 2012, 06:03 AM
That's a massive average spend gap between iOS and Android users. When you see figures like these its easier to see why developers tend to favour iOS; particularly when it comes to tablet apps.

Booji
Nov 5, 2012, 06:06 AM
those are really amazing statics - I've seen similar comparisons but the magnitude of yours blows the others away.

xofruitcake
Nov 5, 2012, 06:18 AM
At the end of the day, do you really care about Android users/iOS users? Does anyone really, truly care about this?

I would say this should be the concern but I also suppose people want to feel they made the "right choice" whether it be religion, political figures... Apple/Android products. *shrug*

Business care. This will tell them where to put their development and marketing resource. If business come mainly from IOS user, they will spend more time catering to IOS user through better app development, focus their market research on IOS user etc. This is an interesting article on app revenue comparison between IOS and Android.

http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-blowing-away-android-with-up-to-90-of-app-revenue/

Munster figures Apple owns about 85 to 90 percent of current mobile app spending. While he’s measuring lifetime revenue, which provides Apple with an advantage, the discrepancy is larger than be explained by the App Store’s head start alone.

With numbers like that, iOS device owners have nothing to fear when it comes to the possibility of developers fleeing en masse to Android as it becomes the world’s dominant mobile operating system. And it looks like Apple will retain that crown for a long time, too, even if trends continue to favor Android: Munster suggests Apple will keep more than 70 percent of mobile app revenue share for the next three or four years.

Why? Android apps just don’t make anywhere near as much money through Google’s Market, nor are they downloaded as often. By Munster’s calculations, the Android Market has around 6,750,000,000 downloads to date, compared to Apple’s 18,566,331,811. Those have resulted in respective gross revenues of $341,765,335 and $4,939,611,127 respectively. Of the gross revenue, developers have seen $239,235,734 from the Market, while $3,457,727,789 has been paid out to those making software for iOS. Percentage-wise, paid apps account for only 1.3 percent of Android apps, vs 13.5 percent for iOS.

The difference is striking, and will mean Apple’s platform is likely to continue to hold a strong lead over Google’s when it comes to the breadth and depth of software selection. It also means Apple isn’t likely to freak out if Google moves a few more devices per year than it does; a strong ecosystem should keep customers coming back in strong enough numbers to keep iOS device and software revenue extremely high despite dwindling market share.

Awakener
Nov 5, 2012, 06:32 AM
There was a study recently that showed some people identify with a favorite brand so strongly that their self-esteem is hurt when someone criticizes it. "Fanboyism" seems related to self-esteem issues. People need to wake up from the trance.

k995
Nov 5, 2012, 06:34 AM
Thats why Android users buy thicker, heavier tablets with crap cameras and crap speakers, without 3G, without back cameras, with smaller, washed color screens and they are so proud of their poor choices or try to justify the fact that they bought cheap crap. Its like buyers of disposable Yugo cars pretend that they've got better deal than those who bought BMW. Only in Apple's case, its products are much more affordable with much higher quality.

The Intellectual Divide at work, people so brainwashed by a brand they fail to note reality as it is anymore .

You got to give credit to apple they sure know how to brainwash and indoctrinate.

SlCKB0Y
Nov 5, 2012, 06:41 AM
iOS Phones: £352
iOS Tablets: £421
Android Phones: £188
Android Tablets £201


Are you using a user agent string check to determine this? Because the Android browser and Chrome both have an option to "Show desktop site". Many Android users use this all the time and would show up as "Linux" in your stats.

I'm not saying your ratio of spend is wrong but your stats are almost certainly seriously skewed.

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Thats why Android users buy ...

How's that GPS working on the iPad mini? Thing is... even if you had it as on the Nexus 7, you wouldn't know where you were because of Maps. :D

Dontazemebro
Nov 5, 2012, 06:54 AM
I work for a large travel company in the UK, looking at Google Analytics, the average spend on our website is really interesting.

Average spend per device on holidays/flights/booking:

iOS Phones: £352
iOS Tablets: £421
Android Phones: £188
Android Tablets £201

When you think about these statistics, and the amount of Android users that have to flood these forums with their need to compare and ridicule an inferior product, I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.

So you're pretty much saying the iPhone is inferior. HA HA silly euros, can't even formulate their troll arguments well. LOL

SlCKB0Y
Nov 5, 2012, 06:55 AM
I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.

That's a complete statistics fail right there because you can't show causation. You certainly can't even come close to making the claim that iOS users have more disposable income.

Example alternate hypothesis: Maybe, like a lot of other sites, your site doesn't work as well under Android as iOS and so Android users are resorting to booking from their laptop/desktop.

It's amazing how some people seem to actually be proud of ignorance.

kas23
Nov 5, 2012, 07:00 AM
I work for a large travel company in the UK, looking at Google Analytics, the average spend on our website is really interesting.

Average spend per device on holidays/flights/booking:

iOS Phones: £352
iOS Tablets: £421
Android Phones: £188
Android Tablets £201

When you think about these statistics, and the amount of Android users that have to flood these forums with their need to compare and ridicule an inferior product, I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.

Money spent had no correlation to the intellectual capacity of a person. Some people may even think that thriftiness is a trait of smarter people. In addition, there is ususlly a disconnect between money spent and the amount of disposable income that person has.

paulsalter
Nov 5, 2012, 07:01 AM
Are you using a user agent string check to determine this? Because the Android browser and Chrome both have an option to "Show desktop site". Many Android users use this all the time and would show up as "Linux" in your stats.



Just checked on my Nexus 7, the user string is showing the correct info, but the summary for my device is Chrome 18 on Linux

reefoid
Nov 5, 2012, 07:10 AM
I'm not saying your ratio of spend is wrong but your stats are almost certainly seriously skewed

Correct. And without further data the stats given are of no use at all. For instance, maybe your Android visitors are more likely to book for 1-2 people, whereas your iOS visitors may book more often for a whole family. Maybe Android visitors prefer short weekend breaks, and iOS users week long breaks.

Basically, trying to discern who has more disposable income from the stats the OP has given is pointless.

kdarling
Nov 5, 2012, 07:12 AM
Money spent had no correlation to the intellectual capacity of a person. Some people may even think that thriftiness is a trait of smarter people. In addition, there is ususlly a disconnect between money spent and the amount of disposable income that person has.

Steve Jobs was well known for being very thrifty and not buying a lot of decorative items... or even furniture!

This whole thread deserves oblivion.

jamojamo
Nov 5, 2012, 07:31 AM
LOL... is there anything more idiotic than people arguing/insulting each other over what brand of device the buy? Goodness.

These companies are laughing all the way to the bank

So true.

ChrisTX
Nov 5, 2012, 07:36 AM
or traditionally better Apple products? Might be both too.

Better is really subjective now isn't it? If Apple hadn't fired Scott Forstall, I might be inclined to think otherwise, but even Apple is starting realize they've become stagnant with iOS.

Edit: Because this thread is genuinely about the wealth of iOS users vs. Android users, and who spends more. I will say that I run a business in a very high end part of town, and while the wealthier demographic that shops with us for the most part doesn't care about price. I know a few 1%ers out that that are extremely frugal with their finances. Choice in mobile OS really has nothing to do with it, and everyone out there from the top, down to the bottom is always looking to save money, trust me.

jsw
Nov 5, 2012, 07:42 AM
When you think about these statistics, and the amount of Android users that have to flood these forums with their need to compare and ridicule an inferior product, I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.
Or, perhaps, the Android users are getting a vacation which is just as enjoyable and yet paying about half as much for it.

McGiord
Nov 5, 2012, 07:56 AM
Are you using a user agent string check to determine this? Because the Android browser and Chrome both have an option to "Show desktop site". Many Android users use this all the time and would show up as "Linux" in your stats.

I'm not saying your ratio of spend is wrong but your stats are almost certainly seriously skewed.

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How's that GPS working on the iPad mini? Thing is... even if you had it as on the Nexus 7, you wouldn't know where you were because of Maps. :D

If you need to look into google maps to know where you are you are in need of something else than a tablet.

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App numbers/sales/revenues/profits/developer checks is one category for assessing the business success. However in the long run, all the data collection and tracking that both companies are obtaining for free are going to be the key enablers for future businesses. Once they start mining the data, and using it for their benefit we will see who has a better business model, they need each other and they use each other and together they can make wonderful tech products and also get into new thing that will help them have different and more intrusive/intuitive apps that think for the user and make 'our lives easier' in exchange for our privacy and money.

TheHateMachine
Nov 5, 2012, 08:48 AM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

So people who write off Apple products are poor? Nice job fitting into the stereotypical Apple "Elite" there bud.

Bet you would buy 10BC bottled water (http://www.springwatershop.com/10-thousand-bc-en.html) too and believe anyone who doesn't is a Plebian.

SlCKB0Y
Nov 5, 2012, 09:22 AM
If you need to look into google maps to know where you are you are in need of something else than a tablet.

Care to explain what you mean by that? What am I in need of?

nickchallis92
Nov 5, 2012, 11:12 AM
pretty sure its got something to do with fact android dominates the low-end of the market

ChazUK
Nov 5, 2012, 11:22 AM
Bet you would buy 10BC bottled water (http://www.springwatershop.com/10-thousand-bc-en.html) too and believe anyone who doesn't is a Plebian.

The very fact that this product exists makes me think....

http://www.gan4hire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/i-dont-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore-11372-2560x16001.jpg

:(

TheHateMachine
Nov 5, 2012, 12:40 PM
The very fact that this product exists makes me think....

Image (http://www.gan4hire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/i-dont-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore-11372-2560x16001.jpg)

:(

The funny thing is that is one of the cheaper designer bottled water brands.

Dontazemebro
Nov 5, 2012, 12:58 PM
The funny thing is that is one of the cheaper designer bottled water brands.

I don't know what's worse. The fact that they have designer brand water or that you even know about it. :D

daveathall
Nov 5, 2012, 01:08 PM
So people who write off Apple products are poor? Nice job fitting into the stereotypical Apple "Elite" there bud.

Bet you would buy 10BC bottled water (http://www.springwatershop.com/10-thousand-bc-en.html) too and believe anyone who doesn't is a Plebian.

10,000 year old melted glacier water, bet it's still got a best before date on it.

nuckinfutz
Nov 5, 2012, 01:10 PM
His results mirror what Orbitz was seeing as well

http://mashable.com/2012/06/26/mac-users-orbitz/

Mac users have by and large made a statement that design and quality traits are something they will pay more for.

It's not about disposable income it's about what one is willing to pay for what they deem is excellence.

TheHateMachine
Nov 5, 2012, 01:13 PM
I don't know what's worse. The fact that they have designer brand water or that you even know about it. :D

What can I say, I greatly enjoy throwing money away! :D

daveathall
Nov 5, 2012, 01:20 PM
I must be intellectually lacking, so when I make a call using my Samsung Galaxy S3, I hide behind my Mac book Pro so that the neighbours don't think I am lowering the tone of the village.

F123D
Nov 5, 2012, 01:52 PM
I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.

Jimmy Kimmel has a name for the average iPad/iPhone user.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=RyWSEwKPo8s&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRyWSEwKPo8s%26feature%3Dyoutu.be

RetepNamenots
Nov 5, 2012, 01:54 PM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

There's a difference between not buying something because you can't afford it and not buying something because you think that an alternative is better value for money.

spinedoc77
Nov 5, 2012, 02:01 PM
I work for a large travel company in the UK, looking at Google Analytics, the average spend on our website is really interesting.

Average spend per device on holidays/flights/booking:

iOS Phones: £352
iOS Tablets: £421
Android Phones: £188
Android Tablets £201

When you think about these statistics, and the amount of Android users that have to flood these forums with their need to compare and ridicule an inferior product, I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.

I'm curious, where do you get the information that Apple users have more disposable income? I'm curious about this extrapolation of data paired with your title insinuating Apple users are intellectually superior to Android users. Are you saying Apple users are smarter because they spend more money? Do you know that it's disposable income, or is it credit? Seems like there is something to be said for frugality in these economic times, looking at lower priced hardware alternatives and being frugal in which apps you buy would seem to be an intelligent decision.

These type of rancorous onerous posts just make me curious. For the record I don't use Android, mainly Apple for years until a week ago when I sold a lot of stuff for Windows 8, but I still have one ipad, one MacBook air, and 2 iphones.

Renzatic
Nov 5, 2012, 02:21 PM
Money spent had no correlation to the intellectual capacity of a person. Some people may even think that thriftiness is a trait of smarter people. In addition, there is ususlly a disconnect between money spent and the amount of disposable income that person has.

While this isn't always the case, most self made millionaires/billionaires tend to be incredibly cheap about certain things. They might buy a few luxury items and status symbols (the latter being a category Apple stuff might arguably fall into), but they won't go out spending money left and right because they can. They became rich by saving their cash, and using it wisely. They rarely ever change this habit even after they've got more money than any single person could spend in a lifetime.

Compare them to lotto winners, who get hundreds of millions and end up broke after 3 years.

ReallyBigFeet
Nov 5, 2012, 04:48 PM
Generally speaking, higher disposable income = higher education levels, since education is still the primary driver for income levels. So the concept of smarter people owning Apple products is a path already well-researched and proven.

Here's a recent study.

http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Smartphone-owner-profile-600x330.png

Android users are, on average, less educated than Apple users. Not calling out anyone specific, but the whole "Apple users waste money on inferior product" could be 100% true simply because Apple users can afford to do so more than their Android counterparts. The education/intelligence part of of it is open for debate. The fact that more education = more disposable income part, however, is really common knowledge. Well, to the educated people at least.

spinedoc77
Nov 5, 2012, 05:01 PM
Generally speaking, higher disposable income = higher education levels, since education is still the primary driver for income levels. So the concept of smarter people owning Apple products is a path already well-researched and proven.

Here's a recent study.

Image (http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Smartphone-owner-profile-600x330.png)

Android users are, on average, less educated than Apple users. Not calling out anyone specific, but the whole "Apple users waste money on inferior product" could be 100% true simply because Apple users can afford to do so more than their Android counterparts. The education/intelligence part of of it is open for debate. The fact that more education = more disposable income part, however, is really common knowledge. Well, to the educated people at least. Interesting, do you have a link to that study?

GoCubsGo
Nov 5, 2012, 05:05 PM
Generally speaking, higher disposable income = higher education levels, since education is still the primary driver for income levels. So the concept of smarter people owning Apple products is a path already well-researched and proven.

Here's a recent study.

Image (http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Smartphone-owner-profile-600x330.png)

Android users are, on average, less educated than Apple users. Not calling out anyone specific, but the whole "Apple users waste money on inferior product" could be 100% true simply because Apple users can afford to do so more than their Android counterparts. The education/intelligence part of of it is open for debate. The fact that more education = more disposable income part, however, is really common knowledge. Well, to the educated people at least.
Hmm. Seems like it could be inaccurate. Seems a huge number of teens use iPhones. Unless they're saying the parents buy them and thus the household income and educational level is higher than expected.

ReallyBigFeet
Nov 5, 2012, 07:16 PM
Interesting, do you have a link to that study?

There have been several that all showed similar findings, but here's the one from above:



http://rjionline.org/news/q4-how-do-owners-different-mobile-media-media-device-brands-differ


Hmm. Seems like it could be inaccurate. Seems a huge number of teens use iPhones. Unless they're saying the parents buy them and thus the household income and educational level is higher than expected.

I'm sure that's true for BOTH Android and iOS devices. Family plans and all. I doubt this weighs heavier on one side or the other, rather just falls along demographic lines. As the chart shows, just as many teens on Androids as there are on iPhones.

marc11
Nov 5, 2012, 07:21 PM
Well without demographic data and a larger sample one sample from one company using unknown demographic qualifiers is flawed. For example, I own both devices and use both to sometimes shop for business travel and personal travel. So based on this, not knowing my age, income level, education level or which device I use for which types of purchases and whether or not I spend more on business travel or personal; which conculsions can you draw?

Honestly, none. The data is flawed; the great thing about statistics is that you can look at the data and model it 100 different ways to show the outcome you wish to show and it will be accurate, in so far as your model is concerned.

unlinked
Nov 5, 2012, 08:02 PM
As the chart shows, just as many teens on Androids as there are on iPhones.

It shows nothing of the sort. Android market share far exceeds iOS so there are more teens with Android devices. And more rich people and more poor people. The survey strangely indicates nobody under 18 has a smartphone.

cynics
Nov 5, 2012, 08:30 PM
This is insane!

I own both Apple and Android products. Where do I fall in here?

I just had a few friends switch to Android. Should I warn them they are not going on vacations anymore or are going to make less then 75k a year? No, because that's world be stupid.

My mind is blown people find any relevance to these "stats" in the way they are being twisted. The MOST I'm seeing here is maybe a website that works better with iOS.

Renzatic
Nov 5, 2012, 08:32 PM
This is insane!

I own both Apple and Android products. Where do I fall in here?

If I go by the chart above, I'd say you make a goodly amount of money, but likely don't know anything about calculus.

THE STATS HAVE SPOKEN! YOU ARE RICH AND DUMB!

cynics
Nov 5, 2012, 08:41 PM
If I go by the chart above, I'd say you make a goodly amount of money, but likely don't know anything about calculus.

THE STATS HAVE SPOKEN! YOU ARE RICH AND DUMB!

Hmm it's adding up. I live in MD (dumb) but go on vacations to Vegas (dumb and expensive)... :)

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/06/yby7esud.jpg

Renzatic
Nov 5, 2012, 08:49 PM
Hmm it's adding up. I live in MD (dumb) but go on vacations to Vegas (dumb and expensive)... :)

Depends on why you're going. For the gambling, or the cheap hookers? (protip: the cheap hookers are the smart option).

Also, we've been skeuomorphed! From hells heart, Scott Forstall stabs at thee!

Ericcc
Nov 6, 2012, 05:35 AM
Generally speaking, higher disposable income = higher education levels, since education is still the primary driver for income levels. So the concept of smarter people owning Apple products is a path already well-researched and proven.

Here's a recent study.

Image (http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Smartphone-owner-profile-600x330.png)

Android users are, on average, less educated than Apple users. Not calling out anyone specific, but the whole "Apple users waste money on inferior product" could be 100% true simply because Apple users can afford to do so more than their Android counterparts. The education/intelligence part of of it is open for debate. The fact that more education = more disposable income part, however, is really common knowledge. Well, to the educated people at least.

Not really informative or surprising when you think about it. Android isn't just all Galaxy S3's or One X's that cost about as much as an iPhone; it's also cheap/budget 0 dollar contract phones. It's not illogical to think that people who earn less are more likely to go with Android.

Far more interesting would be a similar study with top-of-the-line Androids.

Also, education levels doesn't = smarts or intelligence -only a certain aspect of it.

ReallyBigFeet
Nov 6, 2012, 08:49 AM
Not really informative or surprising when you think about it. Android isn't just all Galaxy S3's or One X's that cost about as much as an iPhone; it's also cheap/budget 0 dollar contract phones. It's not illogical to think that people who earn less are more likely to go with Android.

What's pretty clear from all the various Android market segmentation stats I've seen is that Android, by very nature of its design, attracts the majority of the "bottom dwellers" of the socioeconomic strata. When you are the default OS for anyone that wants to offer the cheapest product possible, that's just going to happen. So yes, when taken as a whole, the term "Android users" is rather misleading as there are those who chose premium Android devices, and those that chose el-cheapo models. Not sure I've seen any studies that do a better job of really breaking down the Android OS user demographic profiles, and every time someone dares mention the word "fragmentation" on this particular sub-forum, they get their head bit off by those who see this as attacking Android. But lets not confuse those people with the facts, ok?


Far more interesting would be a similar study with top-of-the-line Androids.


I agree, haven't seen anything like this yet.


Also, education levels doesn't = smarts or intelligence -only a certain aspect of it.

I said as much in my original post. That really depends on whether or not you equate "college degree" with "being smarter." But what's not open to debate is "college degree" = "higher lifetime earning potential." Even with the high unemployment and global recession, that hasn't changed with the possible exception of a few high-skill vocational trades. But even then, the adage applies: For every rule, there's an exception.

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It shows nothing of the sort. Android market share far exceeds iOS so there are more teens with Android devices. And more rich people and more poor people. The survey strangely indicates nobody under 18 has a smartphone.

Here's some current data to chew on for you....

http://readwrite.com/files/files/comscore_iphone_demographics.jpg

http://readwrite.com/files/files/comscore_android_demographics.jpg


Source: http://www.comscore.com/

There are other studies out there, just have to look for them. But this is also why more developers write for the iOS platform than they do for Android. More disposable income = more lucrative market segment. It really doesn't matter how many units Android sells...it matters how many of those users spend money beyond the initial phone purchase.

Finally, while I've no study to back this up, common sense tells me that wealthier people often don't have as much time to spend "fiddling" with their devices. Hobbyists notwithstanding, they just want a device to do whatever they want it to do. So for many, "more features" translates to "more fiddling" which is the opposite of what they want to do. They don't mind spending a premium to have someone else do their fiddling for them. The "less fiddling" part of the iOS experience is a big draw there. As every Android user knows, you can't really mod an iOS device without jailbreaking, and even then, its limited relative to an out-of-the-box Android experience. But to the affluent, that's just a waste of time and time = money. The affluent will easily trade money for time....that point has been proven for a millenia.

SlCKB0Y
Nov 8, 2012, 01:12 AM
But this is also why more developers write for the iOS platform than they do for Android.

Given that Google is now stating ~700k apps in the Store (the same as iOS), do you have a link to support this?

JoeG4
Nov 8, 2012, 01:56 AM
Hmm it's adding up. I live in MD (dumb) but go on vacations to Vegas (dumb and expensive)... :)

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/06/yby7esud.jpg)


My random unhelpful contribution to this thread: That UI makes me want to barf. What's with the stitched cowboy leather UI?

At the OP and relevant posts: This thread seems to be a case of trolling. :(

IFRIT
Nov 8, 2012, 04:26 AM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

hahaha.... no

nick_elt
Nov 8, 2012, 04:51 AM
Who books holidays on a phone browser?

Renzatic
Nov 8, 2012, 04:58 AM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

Yeah, $499 and $329 respectively. My God, do they think we're all made out of money? Hell, I bet I'd have to donate plasma for, like, a month straight before I could afford the Mini!

Actually, the only thing that weirds me out is how everyone sold off their nearly brand new iPad 3s to get a 4. Not to say the 4 isn't a worthy upgrade, it's a pretty damn big speed bump, but you won't see many apps taking advantage of all that power until the iPad 5 shows up on the scene. I just don't see any reason to rush to the latest and greatest here.

Amazing Iceman
Nov 8, 2012, 10:34 AM
Yeah, $499 and $329 respectively. My God, do they think we're all made out of money? Hell, I bet I'd have to donate plasma for, like, a month straight before I could afford the Mini!

Actually, the only thing that weirds me out is how everyone sold off their nearly brand new iPad 3s to get a 4. Not to say the 4 isn't a worthy upgrade, it's a pretty damn big speed bump, but you won't see many apps taking advantage of all that power until the iPad 5 shows up on the scene. I just don't see any reason to rush to the latest and greatest here.

Most people who already got the iPad 3 may just wait for the iPad 5.
In reality, it only makes more sense to upgrade for those with an iPad 1 or 2.

Releasing two models of iPad within the same year may have been a desperate move by Apple, trying to compete against the Windows RT tablet. Lets see how well the iPad 4 sells for the holidays.

I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if the next iPad will launch on Q1 2013, or if from now on all iPads will launch on Q4 every year.
Anybody has a clue about this?

Renzatic
Nov 8, 2012, 11:14 AM
Most people who already got the iPad 3 may just wait for the iPad 5.
In reality, it only makes more sense to upgrade for those with an iPad 1 or 2.

Releasing two models of iPad within the same year may have been a desperate move by Apple, trying to compete against the Windows RT tablet. Lets see how well the iPad 4 sells for the holidays.

I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if the next iPad will launch on Q1 2013, or if from now on all iPads will launch on Q4 every year.
Anybody has a clue about this?

I'm thinking the whole reason they released the 4 early was because they wanted to get the iDevices in sync. The iPad is supposed to biggest and the best of the entire line, and having the phone outspec it 6 months out of the year doesn't make much sense. This way, they can debut them both at the same keynote.

If I'm right, we probably won't be seeing the next iPad until Q4 next year.

cynics
Nov 8, 2012, 01:14 PM
My random unhelpful contribution to this thread: That UI makes me want to barf. What's with the stitched cowboy leather UI?

At the OP and relevant posts: This thread seems to be a case of trolling. :(

It's find my friends app. To be honest I never really noticed until you pointed it out. But I agree its pretty bad lol.

Amazing Iceman
Nov 8, 2012, 11:23 PM
I'm thinking the whole reason they released the 4 early was because they wanted to get the iDevices in sync. The iPad is supposed to biggest and the best of the entire line, and having the phone outspec it 6 months out of the year doesn't make much sense. This way, they can debut them both at the same keynote.

If I'm right, we probably won't be seeing the next iPad until Q4 next year.

You may be right about it, but I think SJ's idea was to have something new come out each quarter, not everything at once.
So lets say on Q4 new iPhone and new iPad comes in, now I'll have to chose between the two as I may only be able to afford one. So even if I wait 4 months to save up enough money to buy it, I may be willing to wait a few more months for the newer version to be release.

I think Apple is going to lose money by making the decision of synchronizing product launches as you mentioned above.

Even more, they may now have quarters with low revenue, which looks bad to investors. Someone at Apple may not be making the right decisions. SJ could see beyond the obvious, hence his sometimes called 'crazy' decisions, but in the end he was right.

technowar
Nov 9, 2012, 12:24 AM
Yeah, $499 and $329 respectively. My God, do they think we're all made out of money? Hell, I bet I'd have to donate plasma for, like, a month straight before I could afford the Mini!

Actually, the only thing that weirds me out is how everyone sold off their nearly brand new iPad 3s to get a 4. Not to say the 4 isn't a worthy upgrade, it's a pretty damn big speed bump, but you won't see many apps taking advantage of all that power until the iPad 5 shows up on the scene. I just don't see any reason to rush to the latest and greatest here.

Say, you are paying extra for the Mini's build quality compared to NX7's. Pretty sure everyone at NX7 forum complaining about screen lift, busted speakers, lcd displays, and not-so-responsive problems.

Dr McKay
Nov 9, 2012, 01:42 AM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

Really? The only reason eh? How narrow minded of you. After paying bills and taxes I have £1,500 disposable income per month, I ditched my iPad and opted for a Nexus 7 and now I'm going to replace my iPhone 5 with the Nexus 4. The only Apple product is say I can't afford is the Mac Pro.

ItsWelshy
Dec 10, 2012, 08:35 AM
Really? The only reason eh? How narrow minded of you. After paying bills and taxes I have £1,500 disposable income per month, I ditched my iPad and opted for a Nexus 7 and now I'm going to replace my iPhone 5 with the Nexus 4. The only Apple product is say I can't afford is the Mac Pro.

There's one born every minute folks..

Dr McKay
Dec 10, 2012, 11:49 AM
There's one born every minute folks..

There's one what?

siiip5
Dec 10, 2012, 12:15 PM
There's one born every minute folks..

I was never going to reply to this trollish thread, but you need a reality check;

Mate, you are from Wales. Why are you discussing anything related to money or wealth? You live in a subsidized, welfare state of England. By the way, iDevices are cheap and easy to buy. I choose not to buy an iPhone or iPad, because they are inferior. It's called using common sense.

You know there is another saying to go with your PT Barnum quote: "Don't throw stones in glass houses."

Tinmania
Dec 10, 2012, 06:34 PM
I'm not sure which is worse: this absurd thread, or those who took it seriously.




Michael

blackhand1001
Dec 10, 2012, 06:43 PM
Say, you are paying extra for the Mini's build quality compared to NX7's. Pretty sure everyone at NX7 forum complaining about screen lift, busted speakers, lcd displays, and not-so-responsive problems.
People generally post when they have problems. There are tons of people who don't that don't post. You can find the exact same kind of threads on here.

Damolee
Dec 11, 2012, 01:19 AM
I was never going to reply to this trollish thread, but you need a reality check;

Mate, you are from Wales. Why are you discussing anything related to money or wealth? You live in a subsidized, welfare state of England. By the way, iDevices are cheap and easy to buy. I choose not to buy an iPhone or iPad, because they are inferior. It's called using common sense.

You know there is another saying to go with your PT Barnum quote: "Don't throw stones in glass houses."

You got to be kidding. Our housing and cost of living is far higher than the US, for those of us who work at least. :p

These statistics, are they showing how much people spend USING their devices?

Perhaps it's more down to security paranoia than real world expenditure. You can pretty much do anything secure with an iOS device and feel safe because of the nature of it. Where as many Android users understand things aren't so cut and dry.

ItsWelshy
Dec 11, 2012, 03:43 AM
I was never going to reply to this trollish thread, but you need a reality check;

Mate, you are from Wales. Why are you discussing anything related to money or wealth? You live in a subsidized, welfare state of England. By the way, iDevices are cheap and easy to buy. I choose not to buy an iPhone or iPad, because they are inferior. It's called using common sense.

You know there is another saying to go with your PT Barnum quote: "Don't throw stones in glass houses."

I'm from London chap... Nice rant though :)

Wrathwitch
Dec 11, 2012, 04:54 AM
I work for a large travel company in the UK, looking at Google Analytics, the average spend on our website is really interesting.

Average spend per device on holidays/flights/booking:

iOS Phones: £352
iOS Tablets: £421
Android Phones: £188
Android Tablets £201

When you think about these statistics, and the amount of Android users that have to flood these forums with their need to compare and ridicule an inferior product, I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.

I decided not to read through the whole forum here because I wanted to be sure of the context of your post. What I am getting from this is that Android/Google users are of lower income, which generally indicates that they have lesser paying jobs most likely due to lesser education. The fact that you heavily implied negative connotations about Android users and their posting habits (that you have gleaned from your wealth of personal knowledge), I can only ASSUME that you are saying that You are basing your opinion of android users based on assumed education level and spending habits combined with forum posts comparing tech products?


Simplified for you:
You don't find it surprising that based on people who spend less money on tech products come to apple forums to compare tech in a negative light (because face it, all people who don't buy Apple products are lesser beings and feel insecure about their purchases).

This post is so stupid on so many levels it isn't believable.

Were you aware that many self made millionaires are extremely FRUGAL in their spending. Yes some go for "the best, brightest etc". But in general people want more bang for their buck. I will also wager that NONE of these self made millionaires post in these forums.

I would wax on about this, but I somehow feel that I have already wasted my time, and that nothing I had to say would open your eyes and have you look at things in an unbiased way. Rather than that from a spoiled little boy or girl who has always had mum and dad buy them whatever they want or give them whatever they want when they need it.

Wrathwitch
Dec 11, 2012, 05:07 AM
What's pretty clear from all the various Android market segmentation stats I've seen is that Android, by very nature of its design, attracts the majority of the "bottom dwellers" of the socioeconomic strata. When you are the default OS for anyone that wants to offer the cheapest product possible, that's just going to happen. So yes, when taken as a whole, the term "Android users" is rather misleading as there are those who chose premium Android devices, and those that chose el-cheapo models. Not sure I've seen any studies that do a better job of really breaking down the Android OS user demographic profiles, and every time someone dares mention the word "fragmentation" on this particular sub-forum, they get their head bit off by those who see this as attacking Android. But lets not confuse those people with the facts, ok?



I agree, haven't seen anything like this yet.



I said as much in my original post. That really depends on whether or not you equate "college degree" with "being smarter." But what's not open to debate is "college degree" = "higher lifetime earning potential." Even with the high unemployment and global recession, that hasn't changed with the possible exception of a few high-skill vocational trades. But even then, the adage applies: For every rule, there's an exception.

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Here's some current data to chew on for you....

Image (http://readwrite.com/files/files/comscore_iphone_demographics.jpg)

Image (http://readwrite.com/files/files/comscore_android_demographics.jpg)


Source: http://www.comscore.com/

There are other studies out there, just have to look for them. But this is also why more developers write for the iOS platform than they do for Android. More disposable income = more lucrative market segment. It really doesn't matter how many units Android sells...it matters how many of those users spend money beyond the initial phone purchase.

Finally, while I've no study to back this up, common sense tells me that wealthier people often don't have as much time to spend "fiddling" with their devices. Hobbyists notwithstanding, they just want a device to do whatever they want it to do. So for many, "more features" translates to "more fiddling" which is the opposite of what they want to do. They don't mind spending a premium to have someone else do their fiddling for them. The "less fiddling" part of the iOS experience is a big draw there. As every Android user knows, you can't really mod an iOS device without jailbreaking, and even then, its limited relative to an out-of-the-box Android experience. But to the affluent, that's just a waste of time and time = money. The affluent will easily trade money for time....that point has been proven for a millenia.

I think that out of all of this text posted, I still remain gently offended by the "bottom feeder" term you used. Just because people have less income or less education, does not mean that they are not validly contributing to society in some way. Yes there are the criminals etc or people who based on poor decisions in life are trapped in the true "bottom feeder" category I would deem bottom feeders as criminals, beggers, and generally people who are not paying taxes but are benefitting from welfare and government support (welfare anyone?), but I highly doubt that there is an instinctual gravitational pull of these people towards Android phones and I would like to see valid stats proving that theory you just spit out. Also a clarification of "bottom feeders".

*edit exchange bottom dwellers for bottom feeders. I assume you mean the same thing? If not the clarification is still desired.

Aniseedvan
Dec 11, 2012, 05:10 AM
This post is so stupid on so many levels it isn't believable.



It's hilarious!

We have a mild joke amongst colleagues that you must give up your engineers badge when you buy an iphone...

It's just that though, a joke. Everyone lighten up, it's nearly Christmas :D

ReallyBigFeet
Dec 11, 2012, 06:37 AM
I think that out of all of this text posted, I still remain gently offended by the "bottom feeder" term you used. Just because people have less income or less education, does not mean that they are not validly contributing to society in some way. Yes there are the criminals etc or people who based on poor decisions in life are trapped in the true "bottom feeder" category I would deem bottom feeders as criminals, beggers, and generally people who are not paying taxes but are benefitting from welfare and government support (welfare anyone?), but I highly doubt that there is an instinctual gravitational pull of these people towards Android phones and I would like to see valid stats proving that theory you just spit out. Also a clarification of "bottom feeders".

*edit exchange bottom dwellers for bottom feeders. I assume you mean the same thing? If not the clarification is still desired.

"Bottom Feeder" means the extreme low end of the smartphone device pool. I'm referring to the very large number of extremely cheap/free smartphones available for new cell contracts/upgrades. It's not a reference to the users other than those that don't really care about the smartphone at all other than they need a cheap replacement for their flip/feature phone.

SprSynJn
Dec 11, 2012, 07:08 AM
Statistics given on the first post of this thread are the same type that we see all over the Internet though. iOS users are in great abundance in site visits, while Android users are not. iOS users spend much more on applications off the App Store, etc. Isn't that why game companies like Epic, whom I believe make the Infinity Blade series, choose only to release games on iOS? One of the developers even stated that was the reason. Seems to me that people who buy the iPhone actually use it. Android customers just buy it to have a smartphone. That's what I gathered anyway.

cynics
Dec 11, 2012, 08:44 AM
I just saw a girl working at McDonald's using an iPhone. Must be the the owners daughter.

/s

TacticalDesire
Dec 11, 2012, 10:32 AM
Anyone who buys an iPhone 4 is a bottom dweller because its free.

siiip5
Dec 11, 2012, 10:39 AM
I'm from London chap... Nice rant though :)

I'm sorry. Did I make a bogus assumption based of flawed data. Interesting that you noticed it now.

cynics
Dec 11, 2012, 12:06 PM
Anyone who buys an iPhone 4 is a bottom dweller because its free.

Yep, real low life.

I think your driver license should say whether you got your iPhone new at full price and just haven't upgraded or if you got free on contract so you aren't confused with these bottom dwellers.

/s

ItsWelshy
Dec 11, 2012, 02:45 PM
I'm sorry. Did I make a bogus assumption based of flawed data. Interesting that you noticed it now.

How is it flawed data? Look at my first post, it's very clear that Android users have less income.

My company is now stoping future android releases and focusing on iOS

Dr McKay
Dec 11, 2012, 03:22 PM
How is it flawed data? Look at my first post, it's very clear that Android users have less income.

My company is now stoping future android releases and focusing on iOS

Now I know you're trolling. First off you say in the title that iOS users are smarter than Android users, then you pull some numbers out of your arse relating to money spent on a holiday.

siiip5
Dec 11, 2012, 03:25 PM
How is it flawed data? Look at my first post, it's very clear that Android users have less income.

My company is now stoping future android releases and focusing on iOS

LOL. Please tell me how owning an iPhone can actually be a precursor to higher income? You do know that iPhones are given away for free with O2, Orange, 3, etc... So what does this tell us about these people? They living on a government stipend because they decided to get a free phone on contract? Your rationale is flawed from the base.

But hey, why stop with your assumptions about Android owners, which is based on your tiny little part of the world? I have a feeling your views on race, sexuality and creed are probably just as skewed.

cynics
Dec 11, 2012, 04:01 PM
My father uses a Motorola Razr. It doesn't connect to the settings on his wall for his indoor pool! How embarrassing!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/6yjupuhu.jpg

Anyone that think android users are broke are probably......broke

Edit : btw heres a pic of the pool. And yes that is an indoor grille in the.background

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/duhugy9e.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/u7usugy5.jpg

Another

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/e4e5ezeb.jpg

TheHateMachine
Dec 11, 2012, 04:24 PM
My father uses a Motorola Razr. It doesn't connect to the settings on his wall for his indoor pool! How embarrassing!

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/6yjupuhu.jpg)

Anyone that think android users are broke are probably......broke

Edit : btw heres a pic of the pool. And yes that is an indoor grille in the.background

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/duhugy9e.jpg)

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/u7usugy5.jpg)

Another

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/e4e5ezeb.jpg)

I hate you and your ilk... kidding kidding. I am so jealous right now. Why do you have to do this to me!

strausd
Dec 11, 2012, 05:34 PM
My father uses a Motorola Razr. It doesn't connect to the settings on his wall for his indoor pool! How embarrassing!

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/6yjupuhu.jpg)

Anyone that think android users are broke are probably......broke

Edit : btw heres a pic of the pool. And yes that is an indoor grille in the.background

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/duhugy9e.jpg)

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/u7usugy5.jpg)

Another

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/e4e5ezeb.jpg)

Macrumors house party?

hamkor04
Dec 11, 2012, 05:59 PM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

How about that?!

Tinmania
Dec 11, 2012, 06:02 PM
How is it flawed data? Look at my first post, it's very clear that Android users have less income.

My company is now stoping future android releases and focusing on iOS
I notice you haven't revealed who "your company" is.

That is because, if they are in fact a legitimate company, they would fire your ass in a heartbeat over the nonsense that you spewed--allegedly with their data.



Michael

Niko91
Dec 11, 2012, 06:03 PM
Why is everybody responding to this troll?

hamkor04
Dec 11, 2012, 06:08 PM
Disagree. It comes down to preferences and what people choose to spend their money on. I personally think the Mini is weak and the iPad 4 offers nothing to excite me. It doesn't mean that I can't afford to buy them.

People who defend what phone or tablet they carry so venomously are immature and need a reality check. It works both ways. Die hard Apple fans are just as bad as Android fans eager to force their point across. You all need to grow the **** up.

Agreed. Some times i feel little uncomfortable. When someone sarcastically asks what phone am i use. I think they been faced with Apple or Android fun bots

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How is it flawed data? Look at my first post, it's very clear that Android users have less income.

My company is now stoping future android releases and focusing on iOS

Wow, how old are again ?

Wrathwitch
Dec 11, 2012, 06:52 PM
How is it flawed data? Look at my first post, it's very clear that Android users have less income.

My company is now stoping future android releases and focusing on iOS

Dude you are such a shower (in french). Look up the word.

Your company? LOL! So cute, it's like listening to a trained monkey who has been taught to repeat words.

Worse yet is it is actually quite sad....

My father uses a Motorola Razr. It doesn't connect to the settings on his wall for his indoor pool! How embarrassing!

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/6yjupuhu.jpg)

Anyone that think android users are broke are probably......broke

Edit : btw heres a pic of the pool. And yes that is an indoor grille in the.background

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/duhugy9e.jpg)

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/u7usugy5.jpg)

Another

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/e4e5ezeb.jpg)

I am so jealous!! Beautiful!!

irDigital0l
Dec 11, 2012, 08:18 PM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

Typical "elite" Apple fanboy response.

Your logic is that spending more money means you get a better product.

lol

Beeplance
Dec 11, 2012, 08:22 PM
My father uses a Motorola Razr. It doesn't connect to the settings on his wall for his indoor pool! How embarrassing!

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/6yjupuhu.jpg)

Anyone that think android users are broke are probably......broke

Edit : btw heres a pic of the pool. And yes that is an indoor grille in the.background

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/duhugy9e.jpg)

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/u7usugy5.jpg)

Another

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/e4e5ezeb.jpg)

That's a freaking mansion man!:cool:

siiip5
Dec 11, 2012, 08:53 PM
My father uses a Motorola Razr. It doesn't connect to the settings on his wall for his indoor pool! How embarrassing!

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/6yjupuhu.jpg)

Anyone that think android users are broke are probably......broke

Edit : btw heres a pic of the pool. And yes that is an indoor grille in the.background

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/duhugy9e.jpg)

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/u7usugy5.jpg)

Another

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/e4e5ezeb.jpg)

Very nice crib mate! There is only one thing that my pad is missing and that is that indoor SS grill! The black granite counters, with stone tiling is a perfect match. Awesome. Me wants!

But you and your dad have Android phones, so you obviously are poor. ;) But maybe poor is a relative term to the OP? As in, compared to Bill Gates you are poor. :D

Tinmania
Dec 11, 2012, 09:13 PM
Very nice crib mate! There is only one thing that my pad is missing and that is that indoor SS grill! The black granite counters, with stone tiling is a perfect match. Awesome. Me wants!
If you didn't use Android you could afford it! :D

Seriously though, the grill part is easy. The exhaust system, not so much. Don't ask me how I know. ;)



Michael

cynics
Dec 12, 2012, 01:25 AM
Very nice crib mate! There is only one thing that my pad is missing and that is that indoor SS grill! The black granite counters, with stone tiling is a perfect match. Awesome. Me wants!

But you and your dad have Android phones, so you obviously are poor. ;) But maybe poor is a relative term to the OP? As in, compared to Bill Gates you are poor. :D

Actually he has an Android phone. I have an iPhone. I live in a condo a few states away from him. It goes without saying he has more money then me. Lol

Beeplance
Dec 12, 2012, 01:49 AM
Actually he has an Android phone. I have an iPhone. I live in a condo a few states away from him. It goes without saying he has more money then me. Lol

Inheritance coming soon.

ChazUK
Dec 12, 2012, 07:44 AM
You are all nobody's until you order a holiday with welshy's company on an iPad.

Including me. :-(

JediZenMaster
Dec 12, 2012, 08:38 AM
I think it's rather silly to call someone poor or dumb or smart based on their platform of choice.

That's as silly as people who think just because someone is with verizon as opposed to sprint that makes them ghetto or poor.

Tyler durden said it best!

KirkL
Dec 12, 2012, 09:40 AM
What makes you think the OP is a troll?

Here's a WSJ article with interesting insights.

//Owners of other Apple devices had similar traits, with higher incomes than users of BlackBerrys or smartphones running on Google’s Android software, according to BIGinsight.

There’s evidence this higher income level translates into higher spending. Nearly half of retailers in a recent study by Forrester Research and Shop.org said users of tablets – who by a large majority are iPad owners – tend to place bigger online orders on average than users of laptops or desktops. Shoppers on Apple devices like iPhones also outspend shoppers using Android or Blackberry devices, according to IBM, which tracks data from retailers.


And while there are twice as many mobile gamers on Android devices in the U.S. as there are on iPhone and iPads, the amount spent by Apple gamers is five times higher than Android gamers, according to international gaming market research firm Newzoo.


In light of this, retailers have scrambled to roll out mobile apps geared toward iPhone and iPad users, often before rolling out their Android versions. And some are retooling their regular websites to make them work better with Apple devices, removing Flash video, which Apple’s mobile devices don’t support, and spacing out links for easier targeting with fingers.//


http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/06/26/why-the-apple-demographic-is-so-important-to-orbitz-and-retailers/


Though I think it's BS to call this an "intellectual divide." It seems like a socioeconomic divide to me.

daveathall
Dec 12, 2012, 09:51 AM
My Butler must be really down in the dumps answering my Nexus for me, I didn't realise that all other Butlers would look down on him after I changed from my iPhone.

sampath
Dec 12, 2012, 10:26 AM
After switching from an iPhone to a Galaxy Nexus my income dropped 60% and IQ by 57 points. The damage would have been greater but for me still clinging to my "old new" iPad.

True story.

Tinmania
Dec 12, 2012, 10:47 AM
What makes you think the OP is a troll?

Here's a WSJ article with interesting insights.

//Owners of other Apple devices had similar traits, with higher incomes than users of BlackBerrys or smartphones running on Google’s Android software, according to BIGinsight.

There’s evidence this higher income level translates into higher spending. Nearly half of retailers in a recent study by Forrester Research and Shop.org said users of tablets – who by a large majority are iPad owners – tend to place bigger online orders on average than users of laptops or desktops. Shoppers on Apple devices like iPhones also outspend shoppers using Android or Blackberry devices, according to IBM, which tracks data from retailers.


And while there are twice as many mobile gamers on Android devices in the U.S. as there are on iPhone and iPads, the amount spent by Apple gamers is five times higher than Android gamers, according to international gaming market research firm Newzoo.


In light of this, retailers have scrambled to roll out mobile apps geared toward iPhone and iPad users, often before rolling out their Android versions. And some are retooling their regular websites to make them work better with Apple devices, removing Flash video, which Apple’s mobile devices don’t support, and spacing out links for easier targeting with fingers.//


http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/06/26/why-the-apple-demographic-is-so-important-to-orbitz-and-retailers/


Though I think it's BS to call this an "intellectual divide." It seems like a socioeconomic divide to me.

This post is even more idiotic than the OP's.

The fact that you spent any time at all searching for that nonsense is either disturbing, or telling.




Michael

cynics
Dec 12, 2012, 11:13 AM
They are a lot closer now but Verizon used to be more expensive then AT&T before the iPhone was on Verizon. I stuck with Verizon because back then AT&T service was terrible in my area. I would have had an expensive paper weight.....

So I could have saved money and got an iPhone but had terrible service that was unusable at my house. Or pay a bit more for a device that actually works. Which would a more intelligent person do?

Greg.
Dec 12, 2012, 11:18 AM
Not that I believe in stereotyping people based on their choice of mobile phone, but relevant to the topic:

http://column5.columnfivemedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Hunch-infographic-droid-vs-ios-C5.jpg

cynics
Dec 12, 2012, 11:25 AM
Not that I believe in stereotyping people based on their choice of mobile phone, but relevant to the topic:

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Nice! I have both so that means I'm very well rounded! I did this on purpose to make my mom proud....

Ayemerica
Dec 12, 2012, 11:27 AM
I have a CET certificate , an A+ and network+ and scored in the top % in my states NOCTI....buys an iPhone every year for dependability and manufacture support.

cynics
Dec 12, 2012, 11:32 AM
I have a CET certificate , an A+ and network+ and scored in the top % in my states NOCTI....buys an iPhone every year for dependability and manufacture support.

Were you in the top 122%?....lol!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/13/8ebujy9e.jpg

Ayemerica
Dec 12, 2012, 11:34 AM
Were you in the top 122%?....lol!

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/13/8ebujy9e.jpg)

:rolleyes:

siiip5
Dec 12, 2012, 11:53 AM
Were you in the top 122%?....lol!

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/13/8ebujy9e.jpg)

LOL. I was about to point out the same quote. So, how is it more intelligent to prefer a device that doesn't do what you need it to, but 'looks' sleek? Johnny, do we have an acronym for this? Yes, Bob, we do. "Superficial".

Also of note, it appears that women are the dominate iphone buyers. And I was wondering why all these people were complaining that the Galaxy S3 was to big for their hands. Also, didn't realize this board was mostly made up of women. According to these stats, anyway. And since they were found on the internet, they must be true.

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I have a CET certificate , an A+ and network+ and scored in the top % in my states NOCTI....buys an iPhone every year for dependability and manufacture support.

Really? Do you think bringing up your academic record proves anything? Trust me, you aren't the smartest person on this board, much less this thread or even this page of the thread.

And you buy iphones for manufacturer support? Didn't realize you supported Foxxcon and the Chinese labor force. Well good for you. I don't think I could come out and say I was in support of slave labor, but to each their own. Also, you enjoying that dependable iPhone 5? No pixel issues, lagging, touch input misses, easily scratched and dented surface, and bendable frame? Or do you claim the iPhone is sexy, and then cover it up with a cheap plastic Otterbox?

Ayemerica
Dec 12, 2012, 12:01 PM
LOL. I was about to point out the same quote. So, how is it more intelligent to prefer a device that doesn't do what you need it to, but 'looks' sleek? Johnny, do we have an acronym for this? Yes, Bob, we do. "Superficial".

Also of note, it appears that women are the dominate iphone buyers. And I was wondering why all these people were complaining that the Galaxy S3 was to big for their hands. Also, didn't realize this board was mostly made up of women. According to these stats, anyway. And since they were found on the internet, they must be true.

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Really? Do you think bringing up your academic record proves anything? Trust me, you aren't the smartest person on this board, much less this thread or even this page of the thread.

And you buy iphones for manufacturer support? Didn't realize you supported Foxxcon and the Chinese labor force. Well good for you. I don't think I could come out and say I was in support of slave labor, but to each their own. Also, you enjoying that dependable iPhone 5? No pixel issues, lagging, touch input misses, easily scratched and dented surface, and bendable frame? Or do you claim the iPhone is sexy, and then cover it up with a cheap plastic Otterbox?


I never said I was the smartest person on this boards, I've been reading all these posts saying that only uneducated end-users love the iPhone and that is just not true. I was saying that even a person with a tech educated background can still pick the iPhone and a person not the most savvy with tech can pick the iPhone, same goes with android. You didn't have to slash my throat for my comment.

Yes the SGIII has never had any screen issues, yes the GNEX never had any attena issues :rolleyes:.

You say slave labor, the vast majority of those workers waited hours in line to work at that job and happily do it, others on the other hand hate it, but I guess you see only the one sided extreme on everything and need to justify why people who buy android are just so gifted with technology and inept in picking their devices. Even though places like BB and Walmart push out 20 dollar Android phones to anyone, never asking about their needs.

cynics
Dec 12, 2012, 12:17 PM
I never said I was the smartest person on this boards, I've been reading all these posts saying that only uneducated end-users love the iPhone and that is just not true. I was saying that even a person with a tech educated background can still pick the iPhone and a person not the most savvy with tech can pick the iPhone, same goes with android. You didn't have to slash my throat for my comment.

Yes the SGIII has never had any screen issues, yes the GNEX never had any attena issues :rolleyes:.

You say slave labor, the vast majority of those workers waited hours in line to work at that job and happily do it, others on the other hand hate it, but I guess you see only the one sided extreme on everything and need to justify why people who buy android are just so gifted with technology and inept in picking their devices. Even though places like BB and Walmart push out 20 dollar Android phones to anyone, never asking about their needs.

Pretty sure the main topic of this thread is how iPhone owners are more educated then Android users. The general consensus from Android posters is that is absurd not that iPhone users are less educated.

I keep making jokes because I find the topic ridiculous. BTW I'm an iPhone user.

matttye
Dec 12, 2012, 12:27 PM
The latest Android phones are in line with the cost of iPhones, so I'm not sure I see the relevance of your findings.

I bought a Galaxy S3 and paid £500 for it without a contract. I then got an iPhone 5, which was £269 plus a 24-month contract. The 64GB version would've been £700 I think, but the 16GB is £500 - same as the S3.

Also since when was the amount of money somebody made a measure of intelligence? Pop stars and footballers wouldn't necessarily have to be that intelligent, but look how much money they make!

dalbir4444
Dec 12, 2012, 04:17 PM
It doesn't make sense to pull up statistics of Android vs iOS. There are lots of Android handsets, from dirt cheap to more expensive than the iPhone 5. So if somebody has statistics of e.g. Galaxy S3 vs iPhone 5, then that would be more suitable to the discussion.

JoeG4
Dec 12, 2012, 07:45 PM
http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Condescending-Wonka.jpg

My phone costs a bit more than the iPhone 5 does, and I study computer engineering. I can program for iOS and am currently working on an Android project, which is actually ok once you get over using something different. I've been using Macs for over a decade, have at least 1 iOS device, and have been contributing to this forum for a decade.

Show me all of the graphs you wish, but I think the idea here is crap. What kind of motivation is behind this topic? That's what I really want to know, does it make you feel better seeing graphs about how many more iOS users have a college education versus iOS users? Does it really?

Android phones are, and have been available for quite a while on prepaid carriers - you can buy an android phone for $50 easily for carriers such as Virgin - a year or so ago you could get a Virgin plan for $25/mo and an Optimus V to use on it for less than $100.

The Optimus V may be smaller, slower, and less attractive than an iPhone 5 but it does most of the same things; making phone calls, taking pictures, and playing games. Sure, it won't do them as nicely, but it can do them. Perhaps to the people that bought it, it wasn't worth the extra $50/mo and $100 to get an iPhone 5. Maybe they couldn't afford an iPhone 5, but really wanted a smartphone.

lordofthereef
Dec 12, 2012, 08:57 PM
At the end of the day, do you really care about Android users/iOS users? Does anyone really, truly care about this?


People in charge of company sales certainly do. They know where to spend their marketing dollars. They know where to spend their app development dollars. They know this, because analysis tells them where the money is.

SprSynJn
Dec 13, 2012, 12:45 AM
Pretty sure the main topic of this thread is how iPhone owners are more educated then Android users. The general consensus from Android posters is that is absurd not that iPhone users are less educated.

The topic is iOS users having more disposable income. It got sideswiped somewhere along the line when some people felt upset by his claim.

KirkL
Dec 13, 2012, 08:31 AM
This post is even more idiotic than the OP's.

The fact that you spent any time at all searching for that nonsense is either disturbing, or telling.




Michael

A post from the WSJ is idiotic? Lol. Your response to statistical evidence is really telling and pretty darn idiotic :rolleyes:

And no I didn't search for it. I read it when it was first published and thought of it when I saw this thread

Tinmania
Dec 13, 2012, 09:44 AM
A post from the WSJ is idiotic? Lol. Your response to statistical evidence is really telling and pretty darn idiotic :rolleyes:

And no I didn't search for it. I read it when it was first published and thought of it when I saw this thread

Yes it was absurd. "122% prefer a sleek device that does nothing." Freaking hilarious.




Michael

KirkL
Dec 13, 2012, 09:51 AM
Yes it was absurd. "122% prefer a sleek device that does nothing." Freaking hilarious.




Michael

Where did the WSJ article I cited have the 122%?

cynics
Dec 13, 2012, 10:16 AM
The topic is iOS users having more disposable income. It got sideswiped somewhere along the line when some people felt upset by his claim.

Sorry me so stupid I can comprehend things to good derrrhhh

Tinmania
Dec 13, 2012, 10:31 AM
Where did the WSJ article I cited have the 122%?
As for the 122%, if you can't find it I am not about to help you.




Michael

nickn
Dec 13, 2012, 12:02 PM
The only reason I can think of why people write off the iPad 4/ iPad Mini so venomously is the simple fact that can't afford one.

WTF are you talking about.... I write off the mini because it is downright stupid, not because I can't afford one... My Nexus 7 has double the CPU power, double the RAM, a faster GPU, a higher resolution screen, and has the better OS, at least in my opinion. Even if the mini and Nexus were the same price I will still pick the nexus, so again, while it is great the Nexus is hundreds cheaper, overall price means nothing... I simply want the best product.

The Robot Cow
Dec 13, 2012, 12:16 PM
What difference does it make to as to which device you own? How much of a fanboy do you have to be to bash on other devices and think that if someone buys the other kind of device is stupid and poor? Typical ignorance. I own an iPhone 5, iPad 2, galaxy nexus and the Nexus 7.

It's all down to what do you like.

Just plain stupid. It's like trying to tell a vegan that they're dumb for not eating meat. We all have our own tastes. Some people like android, some people like iOS, some don't like either, and some like both. Some people on both ends can get really annoying. What is the point of trying to convince an android fanboy that iOS is better and vice-versa.

Point is that you shouldn't worry about what other people like, just worry about what you like.

mcman77
Dec 13, 2012, 05:13 PM
I work for a large travel company in the UK, looking at Google Analytics, the average spend on our website is really interesting.

Average spend per device on holidays/flights/booking:

iOS Phones: £352
iOS Tablets: £421
Android Phones: £188
Android Tablets £201

When you think about these statistics, and the amount of Android users that have to flood these forums with their need to compare and ridicule an inferior product, I don't find it surprising that the average iPad/iPhone user has more disposable income for holidays/luxury products.

lol!! this really made my day. What a poor ASSUMPTION. Your 'facts' can be so wrongly interpreted.

Could it be that Android user just don't use their devices to purchase online?

oh my :eek:

and there are many phones that are priced up there with iphones...tablets too.