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Orange Furball
Nov 12, 2012, 09:07 PM
Hello. I have started to get tired of this manufacturer bull crap with slow updates, though I flash ROMs, its still buggy and not always 100% working. I threw my Galaxy Note and HP TouchPad on eBay last night and they sold today. The Galaxy Note for $300 and the TouchPad for $100. I'm buying an 8GB Nexus 4 and a 16GB Nexus 7. I'll get a nexus 10 eventually if I see a need for it.

Is anyone else doing the same thing? Is this a stupid idea?

The biggest decision was 8GB or 16 GB for the Nexus 4. After checking how much space I use when I have all of my pictures and apps on my phone, I'm below 4GB. I stream music and videos so I don't see the need for the extra price of space. It'll be better anyway because I don't have $50 to just throw away. If I did I would just buy some accessories. I also gained $50 on my Galaxy Note because I only paid $250 on contract back in march, and I paid $100 for my touchpad around June. So I lost nothing while gaining tons of performance.

So what are your thoughts on this decision?



sotorious
Nov 12, 2012, 09:43 PM
I think its a smart decision but is only up to you to decide what you want not the next person. im hoping for midnight release tonight, i want the nexus 4 and 10

Orange Furball
Nov 12, 2012, 09:55 PM
I think its a smart decision but is only up to you to decide what you want not the next person. im hoping for midnight release tonight, i want the nexus 4 and 10

I hope I get paid by midnight so I can buy it at midnight :eek:

I hope I can buy it around 3 or 4 tomorrow afternoon without them being out of stock :(

Wish I had a credit card to use... it seems there doing a first come, first served release...

sotorious
Nov 12, 2012, 09:57 PM
I hope I get paid by midnight so I can buy it at midnight :eek:

I hope I can buy it around 3 or 4 tomorrow afternoon without them being out of stock :(

i hope stock isnt an issue. This thing has had some buzz behind it.

ugahairydawgs
Nov 12, 2012, 09:58 PM
I hope I get paid by midnight so I can buy it at midnight :eek:

I hope I can buy it around 3 or 4 tomorrow afternoon without them being out of stock :(

Wish I had a credit card to use... it seems there doing a first come, first served release...

I'd come up with an alternate plan if you are in a pinch. Looks like it sold out in about 20 minutes after going on sale at the Australian Google Play Store.

Orange Furball
Nov 12, 2012, 10:07 PM
I'd come up with an alternate plan if you are in a pinch. Looks like it sold out in about 20 minutes after going on sale at the Australian Google Play Store.

I have no alternative! :banghead: this sucks. I'll be without a phone for weeks now...

sotorious
Nov 12, 2012, 10:16 PM
sucky thing is its midnight release pst time, im centra ill be in rem sleep by then

onthecouchagain
Nov 12, 2012, 10:20 PM
There will probably be a limit per customer. 1? Maybe 2?

Orange Furball
Nov 12, 2012, 10:35 PM
How about this for a s**** story. I called my mom (im only 16 and don't have a cc) and she said I can't use her credit card. I have $175 in PayPal and two people owe me a total of $400 which will be paid tomorrow. I explained that she would have the money tomorrow and she said no still. I then said I would have to use a credit card anyway as Google Play doesn't accept PayPal. She still said no. I would gladly set an alarm for midnight PST time (in on the east coast) and wake up and by it, then pay her back tomorrow, but she won't let me. I hung up, punched a wall, and smashed a keyboard (I have a -slight- anger problem)

So now I will be without a phone for weeks. Again.

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My only hope now is that people don't go for 8gb :fingerscrossed:

blackhand1001
Nov 12, 2012, 10:37 PM
You won't regret it although you may want to get the 16gb nexus 4. I don't know if its the case with the nexus 4 but some devices slow down as the storage gets too close to full. I think you'll love the experience of a nexus device. The great thing is custom roms like cm and aokp are just as stable as stock on these unlike on other devices. I have been running cm as a daily on my galaxy nexus for almost a year now.

Orange Furball
Nov 12, 2012, 10:41 PM
You won't regret it although you may want to get the 16gb nexus 4. I don't know if its the case with the nexus 4 but some devices slow down as the storage gets too close to full. I think you'll love the experience of a nexus device. The great thing is custom roms like cm and aokp are just as stable as stock on these unlike on other devices. I have been running cm as a daily on my galaxy nexus for almost a year now.

376961
That's the highest my storage has ever got... that's with more than enough apps for me. I keep games on my tablet (in this case, the Nexus 7)

cnev3
Nov 12, 2012, 11:53 PM
Manufacturers need to stop making 8GB devices. Even with an SD card slot, even with cloud access, it's just not enough for 90% of users.

michaeljohn
Nov 13, 2012, 12:15 AM
I have no alternative! :banghead: this sucks. I'll be without a phone for weeks now...

Relax, you are in the US, not Australia. The Nexus 4 being limited to HSPA means no one on Verizon or Sprint will even bother with it and even many people on a GSM service will be put off it doesnt have LTE. I wouldnt worry about it selling out in the states.

nba1341
Nov 13, 2012, 01:41 AM
Currently have a Nexus 7

Will be buying a Nexus 4 (hopefully in December on not impulse buy tomorrow).

Tired of HTC because they release 20 phones a year and pretty much stop supporting them months later. I would like a gs3 but way out of my budget

spinedoc77
Nov 13, 2012, 05:00 AM
Currently have a 32gb nexus 7 that I'm returning today in anticipation of buying the ATT one with cellular. I'm not in love with Android, it's still a bit laggy and not as nice as iOS, but MUCH more customizable, but I'm still a noob with Android. The reason I have it is because I got sick of lugging around an ipad, the ipad mini isn't pocketable but the nexus is. I am seriously thinking of getting a 16gb nexus 4 to compliment it as well and get rid of my 4s.

Orange Furball
Nov 13, 2012, 06:02 AM
Still says coming soon. Let's hope it stays that way till 4.

onthecouchagain
Nov 13, 2012, 01:27 PM
The Verge Nexus 7 Mobile Data review: http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/13/3639904/google-nexus-7-with-mobile-data-review

8.9

Tarzanman
Nov 13, 2012, 01:46 PM
Relax, you are in the US, not Australia. The Nexus 4 being limited to HSPA means no one on Verizon or Sprint will even bother with it and even many people on a GSM service will be put off it doesnt have LTE. I wouldnt worry about it selling out in the states.

Turns out you may have been mistaken there, dude

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57549069-93/google-nexus-4-already-sold-out-at-u.s-google-play-store/

Orange Furball
Nov 13, 2012, 02:13 PM
Looks like I'm not getting either and I'm screwed out of a tablet and a phone. Wow eBay sucks.

ugahairydawgs
Nov 13, 2012, 02:28 PM
How exactly were you planning on buying this without access to a credit card?

Orange Furball
Nov 13, 2012, 02:41 PM
How exactly were you planning on buying this without access to a credit card?

I have access I just need all the money first. Some people still didn't pay me so I didn't have all of it. I have a debit card, but my bank account doesn't have enough in it

jsw
Nov 13, 2012, 07:20 PM
Good luck with it all - word is that supplies will be trickling in, so you just need to keep trying. The N7 is clearly available and unlikely to sell out, so that's pretty much a sure thing. Good luck with the N4. It will happen... I just hope for you that it happens soon.

ReanimationN
Nov 13, 2012, 07:47 PM
Relax, you are in the US, not Australia. The Nexus 4 being limited to HSPA means no one on Verizon or Sprint will even bother with it and even many people on a GSM service will be put off it doesnt have LTE. I wouldnt worry about it selling out in the states.
We have LTE in Australia, I was using it last night at the gym.

flopticalcube
Nov 13, 2012, 07:49 PM
Turns out you may have been mistaken there, dude

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57549069-93/google-nexus-4-already-sold-out-at-u.s-google-play-store/

15 minutes in Canada.... dammit. :mad:

Orange Furball
Nov 14, 2012, 02:50 PM
Welp I'm half way there. I got myself a Nexus 7 16GB. Im waiting for my pickup text from Walmart so I can go pick it up!

Just got to get paid the rest so I can get my Nexus 4*!

*when they're in stock that is.

Rodster
Nov 14, 2012, 02:57 PM
I have access I just need all the money first. Some people still didn't pay me so I didn't have all of it. I have a debit card, but my bank account doesn't have enough in it

Can't you go to Walmart and buy the Nexus 7? :confused:

They take debit cards !

jsw
Nov 14, 2012, 03:04 PM
Welp I'm half way there. I got myself a Nexus 7 16GB. Im waiting for my pickup text from Walmart so I can go pick it up!

Just got to get paid the rest so I can get my Nexus 4*!

*when they're in stock that is.You realize, of course, that there will be a brief moment when the Nexus 4 is back in stock, and it will be while you are getting the 7. ;-)

Enjoy! Also, be aware that the 4.2 update is a rolling one, and your new device might or might not get it immediately. Yes, you can force it, but, having done so today, it's not really worth the effort - it'll come within days anyway. :)

Rodster
Nov 14, 2012, 03:06 PM
I got the 4.2 OTA update last night and i'm in Florida.

jsw
Nov 14, 2012, 03:07 PM
I got the 4.2 OTA update last night and i'm in Florida.I don't know how they decide to issue it, but mine hadn't arrived by this afternoon, despite my best attempts to force it, so I downloaded it manually.

Rodster
Nov 14, 2012, 03:11 PM
I don't know how they decide to issue it, but mine hadn't arrived by this afternoon, despite my best attempts to force it, so I downloaded it manually.

Yeah I don't know either. Maybe it has to do with the size of their data centers and how it can handle the volume of a given region. More and more companies are doing this including Microsoft because in the past their servers were crushed and with everyone trying to hit it all at the same time.

My XBOX 360 took 1.5 days to receive the latest update.

Orange Furball
Nov 14, 2012, 03:19 PM
Can't you go to Walmart and buy the Nexus 7? :confused:

They take debit cards !

My money was in PayPal so its easier to just order it online for store pickup instead of shifting it all around. Anyway, its ready now. I'll probably go in like an hour or two. I'm pretty excited!

ChazUK
Nov 14, 2012, 04:09 PM
Yeah I don't know either. Maybe it has to do with the size of their data centers and how it can handle the volume of a given region. More and more companies are doing this including Microsoft because in the past their servers were crushed and with everyone trying to hit it all at the same time.

My XBOX 360 took 1.5 days to receive the latest update.

Didn't Motorola get lucky with staggered updates when an unexpected issue was bricking some phones a few years ago? Sometimes these delayed updates can be a good thing.

I almost always side load or use a custom recovery when available to update early. I just can't resist. :D

Orange Furball
Nov 14, 2012, 05:29 PM
Got the update as soon as I turned it on!

Size is perfect and the screen is awesome. Plus I finally got to use Android Beam with my phone... amazing! Loving this thing!

Orange Furball
Nov 16, 2012, 02:11 PM
Finally got my money!

Just as they become backordered :banghead:

MF878
Nov 17, 2012, 03:34 AM
I personally would ignore the Nexus 7 and get the 4 and 10. According to my quick calculations, the Nexus 7 is just under 2.3 times the screen area of the Nexus 4, which is not a very big difference, and would not be enough to make me go get my 7 if I only had my 4 next to me. The Nexus 10, however, is roughly 4.75 times the Nexus 4 screen area, which is enough to make you want to use it instead if it's available. Also, the 4 and 10 are both new releases, so are more up to date than the ageing 7.

Rodster
Nov 17, 2012, 03:38 AM
I personally would ignore the Nexus 7 and get the 4 and 10. According to my quick calculations, the Nexus 7 is just under 2.3 times the screen area of the Nexus 4, which is not a very big difference, and would not be enough to make me go get my 7 if I only had my 4 next to me. The Nexus 10, however, is roughly 4.75 times the Nexus 4 screen area, which is enough to make you want to use it instead if it's available. Also, the 4 and 10 are both new releases, so are more up to date than the ageing 7.

If one is looking for portability then the N7 is still the way to go and the hardware is still good enough. I'm getting into the more portable smaller size tabs. That's just me.

Orange Furball
Nov 17, 2012, 09:35 AM
I personally would ignore the Nexus 7 and get the 4 and 10. According to my quick calculations, the Nexus 7 is just under 2.3 times the screen area of the Nexus 4, which is not a very big difference, and would not be enough to make me go get my 7 if I only had my 4 next to me. The Nexus 10, however, is roughly 4.75 times the Nexus 4 screen area, which is enough to make you want to use it instead if it's available. Also, the 4 and 10 are both new releases, so are more up to date than the ageing 7.

My HP TouchPad was too big to carry with my. I just kept it at home on a dock and it barely saw use. The Nexus 7 however is very portable. Even next to my Galaxy Note (which is now sold...) it was a big enough difference to justify having both.

ChazUK
Nov 17, 2012, 09:44 AM
That is a great thing about the Nexus 7 for me. It actually leaves the house with me. Our iPad2 rarely goes out anywhere due to it's size.

jsw
Nov 17, 2012, 10:26 AM
That is a great thing about the Nexus 7 for me. It actually leaves the house with me. Our iPad2 rarely goes out anywhere due to it's size.
Ditto.

The various sizes have their various uses, and the larger tablets, as amazing as they are, aren't nearly as portable.

spinedoc77
Nov 17, 2012, 10:46 AM
I personally would ignore the Nexus 7 and get the 4 and 10. According to my quick calculations, the Nexus 7 is just under 2.3 times the screen area of the Nexus 4, which is not a very big difference, and would not be enough to make me go get my 7 if I only had my 4 next to me. The Nexus 10, however, is roughly 4.75 times the Nexus 4 screen area, which is enough to make you want to use it instead if it's available. Also, the 4 and 10 are both new releases, so are more up to date than the ageing 7.

It's a huge difference once you have them in hand IMO. I bought a Note 2 with the 5.5" screen and used it for a week and found it too small, I didn't think going to the Nexus 7 would be a big deal but after buying it I'm sold, it's the perfect size and to be able to throw it in your pocket is very very powerful.

Rodster
Nov 17, 2012, 10:50 AM
It's a huge difference once you have them in hand IMO. I bought a Note 2 with the 5.5" screen and used it for a week and found it too small, I didn't think going to the Nexus 7 would be a big deal but after buying it I'm sold, it's the perfect size and to be able to throw it in your pocket is very very powerful.

Portability rules, always :)

I like having a tablet that I can carry around in one hand. The larger form is better for staying at home and using in bed or while on the couch.

Orange Furball
Nov 17, 2012, 11:56 PM
Well after some time with the device I have a little review.

What I love about it:

The 16:9 ratio. It makes it fit into my jeans pocket and carry with me easily.

The semi-large bezel. Never thought I would ever like them, but wow does it make holding it easier.

Tegra 3. I have have never seen such speed in a portable device. The only time I lagged was when I switched from Shadowgun to an email and back. This thing flies!

Pure Google is crazy. While I have experience with AOSP ROMs for non Nexus phones, being able to boot up with no problems and not having apps crash is amazing. I will try my hardest to never buy a non Nexus device again.

NFC! I have my Galaxy Note which has NFC but I never got to use it because no other device that I have access to has it! It was fun to beam a few videos across, though I cant see myself using it much yet

Feels great in the hand. I can grasp it perfectly and even type one handed, though I have big hands. The rubberized back is subtle but very nice. Feels wonderful and durable.

13hours with 3+ hours of on screen time and I still have 50% battery left. That's from heavy and light usage throughout the day.

GPS! Perfect tool for commuting.

What I didn't like:

The USB port is upside down compared to other Android devices

No camera app never mind! Thanks inhalewaste!

The 4.2 notification drawers are slightly confusing as they come down on different sides of the screen.

Because the buttons are on a rounded edge when I put it in my pocket with the screen turned toward me they click and turn the screen on. Its easily fixed by turning the tablet around though

And that's it. Because it was only $200 I don't need to baby it. Its cheap enough that I don't feel bad if It breaks. But it doesnt feel cheap. Its weird and you really have to own one to know what I mean. $200 for this thing was the best purchase I've made in the last 3 years (besides my first Hackintosh :thumbup: )

inhalewaste
Nov 18, 2012, 12:00 AM
Well after some time with the device I have a little review.

What I love about it:

The 16:9 ratio. It makes it fit into my jeans pocket and carry with me easily.

The semi-large bezel. Never thought I would ever like them, but wow does it make holding it easier.

Tegra 3. I have have never seen such speed in a portable device. The only time I lagged was when I switched from Shadowgun to an email and back. This thing flies!

Pure Google is crazy. While I have experience with AOSP ROMs for non Nexus phones, being able to boot up with no problems and not having apps crash is amazing. I will try my hardest to never buy a non Nexus device again.

NFC! I have my Galaxy Note which has NFC but I never got to use it because no other device that I have access to has it! It was fun to beam a few videos across, though I cant see myself using it much yet

Feels great in the hand. I can grasp it perfectly and even type one handed, though I have big hands. The rubberized back is subtle but very nice. Feels wonderful and durable.

13hours with 3+ hours of on screen time and I still have 50% battery left. That's from heavy and light usage throughout the day.

GPS! Perfect tool for commuting.

What I didn't like:

The USB port is upside down compared to other Android devices

No camera app

The 4.2 notification drawers are slightly confusing as they come down on different sides of the screen.

Because the buttons are on a rounded edge when I put it in my pocket with the screen turned toward me they click and turn the screen on. Its easily fixed by turning the tablet around though

And that's it. Because it was only $200 I don't need to baby it. Its cheap enough that I don't feel bad if It breaks. But it doesnt feel cheap. Its weird and you really have to own one to know what I mean. $200 for this thing was the best purchase I've made in the last 3 years (besides my first Hackintosh :thumbup: )


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modaco.cameralauncher&hl=en

:)

Orange Furball
Nov 18, 2012, 12:04 AM
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modaco.cameralauncher&hl=en

:)

:D thank you!!! I always thought I needed to root which I'm too lazy to do!

map1978
Nov 18, 2012, 12:10 AM
I'm still waiting for my backordered N4 and can't wait to pair it with the N7. I just picked up a Speck FitFolio in black today at my local Office Max and it still feels super slim and can fit in my back pocket. Love this case because it has the magnet sleep/wake function.

Personally not a fan of the N10. Hate tablets that are designed to look to be used in landscape mostly (from the back design)...does that make sense :confused:

Orange Furball
Nov 18, 2012, 10:57 AM
I'm still waiting for my backordered N4 and can't wait to pair it with the N7. I just picked up a Speck FitFolio in black today at my local Office Max and it still feels super slim and can fit in my back pocket. Love this case because it has the magnet sleep/wake function.

Personally not a fan of the N10. Hate tablets that are designed to look to be used in landscape mostly (from the back design)...does that make sense :confused:

How much did you pay for the FitFolio?