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cnev3
Nov 15, 2012, 08:47 PM
When the topic of app selection comes up with Android users, they say, "Who cares? Why do I need a thousand fart apps? Androids selection of apps is more than enough."

To which I say, 1. It's the quality, not the quantity. Both app stores have way more apps than any person could sample in a lifetime. 2. You can't miss what you've never had. If you've only tasted Sees Candies, you won't care that you don't have access to Godiva.

This list is mostly games because when it comes to a utility app, say like Pages, you could argue that Google Play has an equivalent app that does the same, whereas games, it's a unique and artistic thing where a copy of it is not the same thing. But I have posted some music production apps because they do deal with unique, and proprietary things like modeling from specific instruments, like Roland, and branding of instruments like Fender.

Many of these apps I have personally played and enjoyed, and later noticed were not on Android when I made the switch to an Android smartphone. Also, i've only included apps that are rated 4 stars or higher. No junk. A list of all iOS exclusive apps regardless of rating would take too long to compile.



1-Bit Ninja
100 Rogues
1001 Attempts
247 Missles
4NR
AC/DC Pinball Rocks
Action Driver
Action Movie FX
Aerox
Alive 4ever
Alive 4ever Returns
Amateur Surgeon 2
Amazing Ants
Ampkit
Amplitube
Animoog
Apocalypse Max
Aquaria
Aralon
Arc Squadron
Archetype
Arms Cartel
Arranger
Ascension
Autumn Dynasty
Back to the Future Episode 1-5
Backspaces
Ballistik Wars
Band of the Day
Barefoot World Atlas
Bastion
Batman Arhkam City Lockdown
Battle Academy
Battle Bears Royale
Battleland: Warrior vs Monster HD
Battle Of The Bulge (Shenandoah Studios)
Battlefriends At Sea
Battleship (Hasbro)
Beatdown!
Beatmaker
Beatronome
Bike Baron
Bit Dungeon
Bladeslinger: Ep 1
Bloom HD
Blue Note
Blueprint 3D
Bookworm (Popcap Games)
Bounty Bots
Bubble Galaxy
Bubble Seasons
Bullet Time HD
Bumpy Road
Burnout Crash!
Call Of Snakes
Car Town Streets
Carmageddon
Castle Age
Cat Physics
Catapult King
Catch The Ark
Chimpact
Cinebeat
Circuit Playground
Clash Of Clans
Coaster Crazy
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
CraftedBattle
Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart
Crazy Bill
Crazy Quest (Grahams Solutions)
Crazy Taxi (Sega)
CSR Racing
Cubed Rally Racer
Cubed Rally Redline
Cyto
Danmaku Unlimited
Danmaku Unlimited 2
Deal Or No Deal
Deepworld (MMO)
Devil May Cry 4: Refrain
Devils At The Gate: Pacific War HD
Disney Super Speedway
DJay
DM1
Dondonpachi Maximum
Dragon Island Blue
Dragon Skies
Dream of Pixels
Dungeon Story
Earn To Die
Elements Defender
Epoch
Escape The Swamp
Eternal Legacy
Expand It!
Fairway Solitaire
Fieldrunners 2
FIFA 13
Fight Night Champion
Figure
Filtratron
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Chaos Rings II
FL Studio
Flight Unlimited Las Vegas
Flashout 3D
Flick Home Run
Freeskate
Fishmoto
Galactic Phantasy
Galactic Phantasy: Prelude
Garage Band
Gear Jack
Gems with Friends
GeoDash: Wild Animal Adventure
GeoSociety
Gesundheit
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
Girls Like Robots
Glitchamaphone
Glitchbreaks
Golden Axe 2
Graffiti Me!
Gravity.Duck
Groove Coaster
GTA: Chinatown Wars
Gun Bros 2
Hairy Tales
Hay Day
He-Man
Heal Me!
Hector: Badge Of Carnage
Hero of Sparta 2
Heroes and Castles
Hundreds
I, Gladiator
iKaossilator
I Am T Pain
I Dig It
I Dig It: Expeditions
I Love Katamari
iSequencer HD
iMPC
Impressionism HD
Incoboto
Infinity Blade
Infinity Blade II
Infinity Field
Into The Dead
Ironman 2
iTunes U
Joe Danger
Jool
Judge Dredd: Countdown Sector 106
Juggle It
Jumping Finn
Kaptain Brawe: A Brawe New World
King Cashing: Slots Adventure
King Cashing 2
Kingdom Rush
Korg iElectribe
Korg iMS-20
Korg iKaossilator
Korg iPolysix
Le Havre (Codito Dev)
League Of Evil 2
Legendary Wars
Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4
Leggo Harry Potter: Years 5-7
Letterpress
Lightning Assault
Limbo
Little Acorns (Chillingo)
Little Inferno
Little Masters
Living Earth
Lostwinds 2: Winter of the Melodias
Luminosity Brain Trainer
Lunar Silver Star Story
Macguffins Curse
Mad Skills BMX
Madcoaster
Mage Gauntlet
Magic 2013
Marvel VS Campcom 3
Matching with Friends
Mega Man X
MetalStorm
Micro Miners
Might & Magic: Clash Of Heroes
Mikey Shorts
Minigore
Minigore 2
Mirrors Edge
ModCloth
Monkey Island
Monkey Island 2
Monkey Island 3
Monsters Inc: Run
Monster Wars
Mr. Ninja
Mr. Oops!
Multitrack DAW
Mutant Fridge Mayhem
Myst
Nano Studio
Need For Speed Shift 2 Unleashed
Need For Speed Undercover
Negative Nimbus
Neuroshima Hex Puzzle
New Puzzle Bobble
New Bust A Move
Noble Nutlings
NY Zombies
NY Zombies 2
Ocarina (Smule)
ORC: Vengeance
Orphion
Outwitters
Ovenbreak 2
Over HD
Parallax 2
Penny Arcade: The Game
Penumbear
Percolator
Phantasy Star 2
Pheed
Phoenix HD
Phoenix Wright
Pilot's Path
Pixel People
Pix'n Love Rush: DX
Pocket Army
Pocket Climber
Pocket Heroes
Pocket Zoo HD
Polymer
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Pro Pool 2012
Puerto Rico HD
Punch Quest
Puppetshow: Mystery of Joyville
Puzzle Agent
Puzzle Craft
Rad Soldiers
Radia
Rainbow Six: Shadow Vanguard
Rage HD
Rage Of The Gladiator
Rat On A Jet Ski
Rat On A Snowboard
Ravenmark
Ravensword: Shadowlands
Real Boxing
ReBirth
Reckless Racing 2
Red Conquest
Repulze
Revenge of the Rob-O-Bot
RISK
Robokill
Robot Rampage
Rockband
Rockmate
Roland VR-09 Editor
Samplr
Samurai II: Dojo
Samurai Bloodshow
Scale Wizard
Scribble Hero
Scribblenauts
Shadow Guardian
Shadow Love
Shadow Warrior
Shining Force
Shufflepuck Cantina
Sid Miers Civilization
Sid Miers Pirates
Skate It
Skee-Ball 2
Sky Gamblers: Storm Raiders
Skylanders: Cloud Patrol
Slayer Pinball
Slender Rising
Slingshot Puzzle HD
Slingshot Racing
Smash Cops
Snapguide
Solforge
Sonic & Sega All Star Racing
Soul Calibur
Spellcraft
SpellTower
Spider: The Secret of Bryce Manor
Split Pic
Spunk And Moxie
Stack The States
Starfront Collision
Stompbox (guitar effects)
Storm In A Teacup
Strange Loves 1: Vampire Boyfriends
Street Fighter Volt
Street Figher VS Tekken
Strum
Summoner Wars
Super Hexagon
Supermagical
Swing King
Swordigo
Tab Toolkit
Table Top Racing
Tactical Soldier
Tentacles: Enter The Dolphin
The 7th Guest
The Gods: Rebellion
The Grading Game
The History Channel
The Infinity Project 2
The Last Express
The Lords of Midnight
The Math Tree
The Room
The Silent Age
The Simpsons Arcade
The Simpsons: Tapped Out
The Sims 3: Ambitions
The Sims 3: World Adventures
The Sims Medieval
The Voice: On Stage
The Walking Dead: The Game. Episode 1-5
The World Ends With You
Ticket To Ride Pocket
Ticket To Ride Europe
Time Geeks: Find All
Time Surfer
Tiny Sheep
Tiny Wings
Toca Band
Toca Hair Salon
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Shadow Vanguard
Tom Clancy's Hawk
Total Recoil
Touch Hockey 2
Touchgrind
Tractor DJ
Trenches
Trenches II
Trivial Pursuit
True Skate
Turtles, Huh?
Twisted Lands: Origin HD
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
Unstuck
Verticus
Vintagio
Wake The Cat
Warpspeed 2
West Legends
Wimp: Who stole my pants?
Wind Tunnel
Wipeout
Worms 2: Armageddon
Worms Crazy Golf
Wurdle
X-Plane (Extreme/Airliner/Helicopter/Carrier)
Yahtzee HD
Yesterday
You Don't Know Jack
Zombie Gunship
Zombieville USA 2
Zuma's Revenge


Apps added this revision:

West Legends, Penumbear, Gravity.Duck, Zombieville USA 2, King Cashing 2, The Gods: Rebellion, Polymer, Heroes and Castles, Table Top Racing, Danmaku Unlimited, Danmaku Unlimited 2, Pixel People, Warpspeed 2, 247 Missles, Robot Rampage, Skee-Ball 2, Spunk And Moxie, Jool, I, Gladiator, Expand It!, Gun Bros 2, Crazy Bill, The Silent Age, Lightning Assault, Year Walk, Crazy Quest, Phoenix HD, Parallax 2, Flight Unlimited Las Vegas, Cyto, Bit Dungeon, Escape The Swamp, Fishmoto, Tactical Soldier, Little Acorns, Le Havre, Hairy Tales, Tractor DJ, You Don't Know Jack, ModCloth, Wind Tunnel, MathMateer, Circuit Playground, Roland VR-09 Editor, Glitchamaphone, iMPC, Blue Note, Korg iElectribe, Korg iKaossilator, Korg iMS-20, Glitchbreaks, Rockmate, iSequencer HD, Bloom HD, Orphion, Percolator, Over HD, Barefoot World Atlas, Aquaria, Infinity Field, Cinebeat, Slingshot Puzzle HD, 1001 Attempts


Apps removed this revision:

n/a


Mention any good apps I missed and i'll edit them in. Some apps may release an android version in the future and so they will need to be removed from the list. And of course there are bound to be new ones to be added in.

Also it would be cool for someone to make a sister thread of good apps available only on Google Play.



jeffe
Nov 15, 2012, 09:04 PM
When the topic of app selection comes up with Android users, they say, "Who cares? Why do I need a thousand fart apps? Androids selection of apps is more than enough."

To which I say, 1. It's the quality, not the quantity. Both app stores have way more apps than any person could sample in a lifetime. 2. You can't miss what you've never had. If you've only tasted Sees Candies, you won't care that you don't have access to Godiva.

This list is mostly games because when it comes to a utility app, say like Pages, you could argue that Google Play has an equivalent app that does the same, whereas games, it's a unique and artistic thing where a copy of it is not the same thing. But I have posted some music production apps because they do deal with unique, and proprietary things like modeling from specific instruments, like Roland, and branding of instruments like Fender.


This really isn't that great of a thread IMO but if you are going to do it you might want to recheck your list. Pocket Planes, Rayman Jungle Run, Chrono Trigger, and Prince of persia are all in the play store from what I can tell, I haven't looked at the others.

They also have tiny bird, moon chaser and dragon fly which exhibit the same game play as tiny wings so that one should also be taken off your list too.

onthecouchagain
Nov 15, 2012, 10:20 PM
Regarding Chrono Trigger, Android runs SNES emulators (and Gameboy, and Genesis, and PSX, and N64) so you want to know what iOS doesn't have? The entire SNES collection of games.

:)

SlCKB0Y
Nov 15, 2012, 10:51 PM
so you want to know what iOS doesn't have? The entire SNES collection of games.

:)

Dont forget some of my favourite point and click adventure games using scummvm:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.scummvm.scummvm&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5zY3VtbXZtLnNjdW1tdm0iXQ..

Zwhaler
Nov 15, 2012, 11:19 PM
Can you alphabetize that

ReanimationN
Nov 15, 2012, 11:20 PM
When the topic of app selection comes up with Android users, they say, "Who cares? Why do I need a thousand fart apps? Androids selection of apps is more than enough."

To which I say, 1. It's the quality, not the quantity. Both app stores have way more apps than any person could sample in a lifetime. 2. You can't miss what you've never had. If you've only tasted Sees Candies, you won't care that you don't have access to Godiva.

This list is mostly games because when it comes to a utility app, say like Pages, you could argue that Google Play has an equivalent app that does the same, whereas games, it's a unique and artistic thing where a copy of it is not the same thing. But I have posted some music production apps because they do deal with unique, and proprietary things like modeling from specific instruments, like Roland, and branding of instruments like Fender.

These are apps that I personally have played and enjoyed that I noticed were not on Android during the time I owned an Android smartphone. Also i've only included apps that are rated 4 stars or higher. No junk.


Arc Squadron, Letterpress, The Walking Dead: The Game, Swordigo, GTA Chinatown Wars, Pocket Planes, Street Fighter Volt, True Skate, Fairway Solitaire, Beat Hazard Ultra, Infinity Blade II, Bike Baron, Gesundheit, Monkey Island 1-3, Groove Coaster, Starfront Collision, Aralon, Rage HD, Matching with Friends, The World Ends With You, Scribblenauts, Avengers Initiative, Dream of Pixels, Back to the Future, Battle Academy, Zuma's Revenge, Touchgrind, MVC3, New Puzzle Bobble, SF vs Tekken, Ultimate MC3, Rayman Jungle Run, He-Man, Alive 4ever, Wild Blood, Beatdown!, Fieldrunners 2, Epoch, Ascension, Mikey Shorts, Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy Chaos Rings, Wimp, Bastion, Skate It, Real Boxing, Chrono Trigger, NFS Shift 2, Iron Man 2, Prince of Persia, Tom Clancys Hawk, Mirrors Edge, Minigore, Hero of Sparta 2, Phoenix Wright, Limbo, Rock Band, Tiny Wings, New Bust A Move, Zombie Gunship, Eternal Legacy, Pocket Climber, Ticket To Ride, Sid Miers Pirates, Sid Miers Civilization, Punch Quest, Aerox, The Simpsons: Tapped Out, The Simpsons Arcade, CSR Racing, Hay Day, Castle Age, FIFA 13, Gems with Friends, Wipeout, Living Earth, Band of the Day, Luminosity, FL Studio, Animoog, Filtratron, DJay, Figure, Nano Studio, iKaossilator, DM1, Multitrack DAW, ReBirth, Ampkit, Tab Toolkit, Amplitube, Beatmaker, iTunes U, Garage Band.

Mention any good apps I missed and i'll edit them in. Some apps may release an android version in the future and so they will need to be removed from the list. And of course there are bound to be new ones to be added in.

Also it would be cool for someone to make a sister thread of good apps available only on Google Play.

As already mentioned, Rayman's on Android, as is Starfront and Eternal Legacy, although you have to buy them from Gameloft's site. Chaos Rings 1 was also just released on Android. It's over 2 years late, but hey, it's there. Chaos Rings Omega and CR2 still aren't out on Android.

onthecouchagain
Nov 15, 2012, 11:26 PM
As market share shifts and as the Nexus branding/line continues to take off, so will the landscape of apps continue to change. Before, it used to be App Store rules the Play Store with numbers of apps. Now, it's getting down to a some specific apps that Android doesn't have (yet; maybe some forever), or that apps aren't perfectly optimized for tablet screens yet. Soon, those gaps, too, will close.

It's inevitable.

Meanwhile, there are caveats to having less fragmented apps. You have a limited number of screen sizes and resolutions that Apple can make. You can't make massive upgrades to the software that rocks the boat too much (while Android can, once in a while, throw a ICS-like overhaul of the system).

cnev3
Nov 16, 2012, 09:53 PM
Regarding Chrono Trigger, Android runs SNES emulators (and Gameboy, and Genesis, and PSX, and N64) so you want to know what iOS doesn't have? The entire SNES collection of games.

:)

If I wanted to play 20 year old games that werent designed to be used with a touchscreen, with the wrong aspect ratio, I could download Cydia and have all the emulators I want.

What do you do if you want to play Infinity Blade 2, or plug in a guitar and use an amp modeler?

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This really isn't that great of a thread IMO

Then make a thread about games and apps that are available for Android only. I'm sure that thread will be much better.

I updated the list, and removed two apps that now have android versions, and added two iOS games. BTW, Price of Persia was for Warrior Within, not the Classic version.

LIVEFRMNYC
Nov 16, 2012, 09:59 PM
If the latest and greatest games are absolutely important to you, just enjoy your iPhone. I don't see the point you are trying to make here.

I guess you don't realize many of us Android users also have iOS devices as well. So it's not like we are missing out. I myself still have my 4 and 4S and use my iPad 2 daily. I also haven't played most of those games you posted on iOS. It should be obvious that many choose an Android device for reasons other than gaming.

dalbir4444
Nov 16, 2012, 09:59 PM
Isn't this the classic version:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.ubisoft.freemium.POPClassic&feature=nav_result

cnev3
Nov 16, 2012, 10:28 PM
Can you alphabetize that

Done. I also arranged the list vertically so its easier to read.

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If the latest and greatest games are absolutely important to you, just enjoy your iPhone. I don't see the point you are trying to make here.

I guess you don't realize many of us Android users also have iOS devices as well. So it's not like we are missing out. I myself still have my 4 and 4S and use my iPad 2 daily. I also haven't played most of those games you posted on iOS. It should be obvious that many choose an Android device for reasons other than gaming.

It's not games, its apps in general. Like I said, the list is mostly games because when it comes to utility apps, you could just point out an android app that does roughly the same thing. Whereas unique apps like games is an irrefutable sign that iOS is far superior to Android as far as software goes.

Cool features are nice to have, but at the end of the day, my device is a means to use apps. Without apps, its little more than a cell phone, music player, and camera.

Software is just as important as hardware, if not more. Which is why the Zune HD failed, despite it having superior hardware to the iPod Touch. It had a better screen, and the best GPU of any mobile device at the time. But it wasn't enough. Content is king.

SomeDudeAsking
Nov 16, 2012, 10:42 PM
Done. I also arranged the list vertically so its easier to read.

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It's not games, its apps in general. Like I said, the list is mostly games because when it comes to utility apps, you could just point out an android app that does roughly the same thing. Whereas unique apps like games is an irrefutable sign that iOS is far superior to Android as far as software goes.

Cool features are nice to have, but at the end of the day, my device is a means to use apps. Without apps, its little more than a cell phone, music player, and camera.

Software is just as important as hardware, if not more. Which is why the Zune HD failed, despite it having superior hardware to the iPod Touch. It had a better screen, and the best GPU of any mobile device at the time. But it wasn't enough. Content is king.

IMO, gaming on the iPhone sucks and in general, the games on iOS are low quality, repetitive, and "freemium" that takes all the fun out. I know because I have an iPhone. I've basically stopped downloading games on iOS because I've seen it all and it keeps getting repeated.

If you want to compare apps, iOS sucks for spreadsheets. There is so much more choice on Android if you want to be productive.

Jessica Lares
Nov 16, 2012, 10:58 PM
Yeah, but you know what? People on Google Play aren't blowing $500 on mobile games either. Think about all that cash you're wasting on stuff that might not even work in the next two iOS updates. Argue all you want about getting all the hottest games, but you know what? I've spent over $1,000+ on iOS apps and I'm honestly tired of it. It's not that I don't like my iOS devices, but it's like an expensive hobby, and you've just proved that with this list that has a couple $2-10 games and apps.

ucfgrad93
Nov 16, 2012, 11:13 PM
Yeah, but you know what? People on Google Play aren't blowing $500 on mobile games either. Think about all that cash you're wasting on stuff that might not even work in the next two iOS updates. Argue all you want about getting all the hottest games, but you know what? I've spent over $1,000+ on iOS apps and I'm honestly tired of it. It's not that I don't like my iOS devices, but it's like an expensive hobby, and you've just proved that with this list that has a couple $2-10 games and apps.

Damn, do you buy anything and everything that catches your eye? I couldn't imagine spending that kind of money on apps.

dalbir4444
Nov 16, 2012, 11:20 PM
Done. I also arranged the list vertically so its easier to read.

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It's not games, its apps in general. Like I said, the list is mostly games because when it comes to utility apps, you could just point out an android app that does roughly the same thing. Whereas unique apps like games is an irrefutable sign that iOS is far superior to Android as far as software goes.

Cool features are nice to have, but at the end of the day, my device is a means to use apps. Without apps, its little more than a cell phone, music player, and camera.

Software is just as important as hardware, if not more. Which is why the Zune HD failed, despite it having superior hardware to the iPod Touch. It had a better screen, and the best GPU of any mobile device at the time. But it wasn't enough. Content is king.

Android does have a large collection of games, just not as large as iOS's. The sentence I bolded is IMO incorrect. Windows has more games than OS X, but does that make it superior? It depends on the user. People like iOS and Android for different reasons.

There are many apps in the Play Store that don't exist in the App Store. Eg. tasker is one of them.

onthecouchagain
Nov 16, 2012, 11:26 PM
Software is indeed more important. That's why Jelly Bean 4.2 rules iOS 6. :D

hyteckit
Nov 16, 2012, 11:30 PM
Also, just because the app/games is available on Android and the Google Play store, doesn't mean it'll run on your Android device.

I have an android tablet and android phone. Tablet running ICS and phone running gingerbread. What works and what doesn't.

Just some game examples.


NBA Jam
tablet - YES
phone - NO

MADDEN NFL 12
tablet - NO
phone - YES

FIFA 12
tablet - YES
phone - NO

Plants vs. Zombies
tablet - NO
phone - YES


TETRIS
tablet - NO
phone - NO


Worms
tablet - NO
phone - YES

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit
tablet - NO
phone - NO

Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 12
tablet - YES
phone - NO

Asphalt 6: Adrenaline
tablet - NO
phone - NO

N.O.V.A. 2
tablet - NO
phone - NO

Rodimus Prime
Nov 16, 2012, 11:45 PM
some of the games on your list I have seen in the play store and I am pretty sure I have a few of them I bought. Mind you they are not on my phone right now because meh I do not play them so saving space and not junking up my app draw.

I could point out utility apps that would be useful that android has and there is no iPhone equilitlent. And no these are not hardware apps.

LIVEFRMNYC
Nov 16, 2012, 11:51 PM
It's not games, its apps in general. Like I said, the list is mostly games because when it comes to utility apps, you could just point out an android app that does roughly the same thing. Whereas unique apps like games is an irrefutable sign that iOS is far superior to Android as far as software goes.

The list of apps can be made vice versa. There is plenty of quality Andriod only apps in the Play Store.

Reasons why iOS has the bigger app store and why some apps release on iOS first. Money talks, and the iPhone has been the universal flagship smartphone and a household name since release. But things have been changing very rapidly. And for the first time with Jellybean, Android's default apps and features out weight iOS.

Also, cross platform apps usually don't vary much in quality between iOS and Android. You'll find a small number of cross platform apps which are better quality on either platform, but in general most are basically the same quality.

Then you have all the Android apps that will never make it to iOS due to Apple's restrictions on iOS and the AppStore. It fair to say Android actually has much more options. So there goes your superior software theory. ;)


Cool features are nice to have, but at the end of the day, my device is a means to use apps. Without apps, its little more than a cell phone, music player, and camera.

And that's exactly what iOS is, an app player. Android is also an app player but that's not where Android stops at. Can you set default apps? Hide apps? Disable apps from using data? And etc, etc, etc? You might not care about these things, just as other don't care about the game list you posted.

Software is just as important as hardware, if not more. Which is why the Zune HD failed, despite it having superior hardware to the iPod Touch. It had a better screen, and the best GPU of any mobile device at the time. But it wasn't enough. Content

If you think Android doesn't have enough content for you, then like I said earlier, enjoy your iPhone. But to make an assumption that the general quality and quantity of apps for Android is low....... Thats completely false.

dalbir4444
Nov 17, 2012, 12:07 AM
Also, just because the app/games is available on Android and the Google Play store, doesn't mean it'll run on your Android device.

I have an android tablet and android phone. Tablet running ICS and phone running gingerbread. What works and what doesn't.

Just some game examples.


NBA Jam
tablet - YES
phone - NO

MADDEN NFL 12
tablet - NO
phone - YES

FIFA 12
tablet - YES
phone - NO

Plants vs. Zombies
tablet - NO
phone - YES


TETRIS
tablet - NO
phone - NO


Worms
tablet - NO
phone - YES

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit
tablet - NO
phone - NO

Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 12
tablet - YES
phone - NO

Asphalt 6: Adrenaline
tablet - NO
phone - NO

N.O.V.A. 2
tablet - NO
phone - NO

I feel like I've seen this post elsewhere. Deja Vu!

Vegastouch
Nov 17, 2012, 12:22 AM
LOL, ....well hey, im not a teenager so i only have like 4 or 5 games on my phone because i dont hardly play any. Some of those games it is ridiculous to try and play on a phone....like GTA or Madden.

I dont know...if i really wanted to play games, id just use the Xbox. Not like the Vita or whatever that is called that replaced the PSP is doing very well. The games i do have are just to pass time here and there.

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Also, just because the app/games is available on Android and the Google Play store, doesn't mean it'll run on your Android device.

I have an android tablet and android phone. Tablet running ICS and phone running gingerbread. What works and what doesn't.

Just some game examples.


NBA Jam
tablet - YES
phone - NO

MADDEN NFL 12
tablet - NO
phone - YES

FIFA 12
tablet - YES
phone - NO

Plants vs. Zombies
tablet - NO
phone - YES


TETRIS
tablet - NO
phone - NO


Worms
tablet - NO
phone - YES

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit
tablet - NO
phone - NO

Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 12
tablet - YES
phone - NO

Asphalt 6: Adrenaline
tablet - NO
phone - NO

N.O.V.A. 2
tablet - NO
phone - NO
Pretty sure Need for speed is on Android for the phone(i dont have a tablet)

EDIT, just checked, there are 3 of them and one is Hot Pursuit.
So is NBA Jam and Asphalt 6: Adrenaline and FIFA 12.

Obviously you havent looked very hard and im sure there are probably more. I actually only looked up those i mentioned. Havent went down your whole list.

Stuntman06
Nov 17, 2012, 12:46 AM
Also it would be cool for someone to make a sister thread of good apps available only on Google Play.

Pretty much any launcher, any keyboard, any widget and Google Maps.

siiip5
Nov 17, 2012, 12:50 AM
Done. I also arranged the list vertically so its easier to read.

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It's not games, its apps in general. Like I said, the list is mostly games because when it comes to utility apps, you could just point out an android app that does roughly the same thing. Whereas unique apps like games is an irrefutable sign that iOS is far superior to Android as far as software goes.

Cool features are nice to have, but at the end of the day, my device is a means to use apps. Without apps, its little more than a cell phone, music player, and camera.

Software is just as important as hardware, if not more. Which is why the Zune HD failed, despite it having superior hardware to the iPod Touch. It had a better screen, and the best GPU of any mobile device at the time. But it wasn't enough. Content is king.
If mobile gaming is really important to you and you want to actually play a game, instead of trying to tap on a tiny little screen and "hoping" you tap on the right spot, why in the world would you pick an iphone?
Let's say you want to play Call of Duty: Black Ops Zombies, Dead Trigger, Modern Combat 3, NOVA 3, Shadowgun: Deadzone, Mario Kart, CHAOS, Contract Killer, Mass Effect, Grand Theft Auto III, Real Racing 2, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, or any old PS1 or NES/SNES game, you really find it enjoyable to tap all over the screen and obscure your vision with your hand? Personally, I prefer playing with my PS3 or XBox controller wirelessly. If I want to hook my S3 up to a 50" hdtv, its a piece of cake. No Apple TV hook up required. I also can't understand being a gamer and then stuck with the iphone itty, bitty little screen?

You also talked about productivity. Well, when it comes to music and art productivity apps, Apple has that market cornered. If you want to talk business or school productivity apps, Android is better. Why? Android allows for both BT keyboards and mice. Android works perfectly in either touch or regular computer mode. As soon as a mouse is detected, a nice arrow pointer pops up on screen and works exactly like a pc. Plus, Word, Excel and Powerpoint are all available via OfficeSuit app. And nice features like being able to play a video in PiP mode while giving a powerpoint presentation, or surfing the web is a nice bonus.

Apple devices have their pluses, but working well outside of the Apple ecosystem is not one of them. And being able to access usb drive data, thumb drives, use a mouse or game controller, work on any hdtv, etc really limits an iDevice.

I am sure the iphone an ipad are great for you and your needs, but I can't believe you world prefer to tap all over a screen to play a FPS type game over using a controller. That just doesn't make any sense.

hyteckit
Nov 17, 2012, 12:55 AM
Pretty sure Need for speed is on Android.

EDIT, just checked, there are 3 of them and one is Hot Pursuit.
So is NBA Jam and Asphalt 6: Adrenaline and FIFA 12.

Obviously you havent looked very hard and im sure there are probably more. I actually only looked up those i mentioned. Havent went down your whole list.

Obviously you didn't bother to read what I wrote.

Everything I've listed is on the Google Play Store.

"just because the app/games is available on Android and the Google Play store, doesn't mean it'll run on your Android device."

cnev3
Nov 17, 2012, 03:25 AM
IMO, gaming on the iPhone sucks and in general, the games on iOS are low quality, repetitive, and "freemium" that takes all the fun out. I know because I have an iPhone. I've basically stopped downloading games on iOS because I've seen it all and it keeps getting repeated.

If you want to compare apps, iOS sucks for spreadsheets. There is so much more choice on Android if you want to be productive.

Please name Android games that are better than iOS games. And please name Android productivity apps that do things that you can't do on iOS.

If you're going to make statements like that, give some kind of data to back it up.

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Software is indeed more important. That's why Jelly Bean 4.2 rules iOS 6. :D

How so? I'm genuinely curious.

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If mobile gaming is really important to you and you want to actually play a game, instead of trying to tap on a tiny little screen and "hoping" you tap on the right spot, why in the world would you pick an iphone?
Let's say you want to play Call of Duty: Black Ops Zombies, Dead Trigger, Modern Combat 3, NOVA 3, Shadowgun: Deadzone, Mario Kart, CHAOS, Contract Killer, Mass Effect, Grand Theft Auto III, Real Racing 2, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, or any old PS1 or NES/SNES game, you really find it enjoyable to tap all over the screen and obscure your vision with your hand? Personally, I prefer playing with my PS3 or XBox controller wirelessly. If I want to hook my S3 up to a 50" hdtv, its a piece of cake. No Apple TV hook up required. I also can't understand being a gamer and then stuck with the iphone itty, bitty little screen?

You also talked about productivity. Well, when it comes to music and art productivity apps, Apple has that market cornered. If you want to talk business or school productivity apps, Android is better. Why? Android allows for both BT keyboards and mice. Android works perfectly in either touch or regular computer mode. As soon as a mouse is detected, a nice arrow pointer pops up on screen and works exactly like a pc. Plus, Word, Excel and Powerpoint are all available via OfficeSuit app. And nice features like being able to play a video in PiP mode while giving a powerpoint presentation, or surfing the web is a nice bonus.

Apple devices have their pluses, but working well outside of the Apple ecosystem is not one of them. And being able to access usb drive data, thumb drives, use a mouse or game controller, work on any hdtv, etc really limits an iDevice.

I am sure the iphone an ipad are great for you and your needs, but I can't believe you world prefer to tap all over a screen to play a FPS type game over using a controller. That just doesn't make any sense.

I don't know what world you live in where people give powerpoint presentations on their phone, and hook up full keyboards and mouse to their phones. I've never seen that. I think I would have to try pretty hard not to laugh out loud at the sight of someone using a keyboard and mouse while looking at a 4" screen.

Besides, bluetooth devices are supported by iOS, which includes keyboards and mouse. Not sure what gave you the idea that it doesn't.

You should prove your point anyways, by making a list of android productivity apps that arent available for iOS.



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LOL, ....well hey, im not a teenager so i only have like 4 or 5 games on my phone because i dont hardly play any. Some of those games it is ridiculous to try and play on a phone....like GTA or Madden.



Yeah it's so ridiculous that GTA Chinatown Wars was one of the DS highest selling games, which had a much smaller screen than iOS devices.

iOS has way more to offer as far as music, art, and education apps too, which are genres that aren't just for kids.

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Reasons why iOS has the bigger app store and why some apps release on iOS first.

Who cares about what app store has the highest quantity of apps? They both have an insane amount. Its about what app store has the best apps.

Try making a list of android apps that are rated 4 stars or higher than arent on iOS and see if its even half as long as my list.

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Pretty much any launcher, any keyboard, any widget and Google Maps.

Google is already almost finished making the Maps app for iOS, and should be released next wed. Thank God!

What do you mean by keyboard?

And if I want widgets to kill my battery life, and eat up my RAM and CPU for something i'll never use, I can jailbreak and get all the useless Widgets I want.

Oletros
Nov 17, 2012, 03:29 AM
What do you mean by keyboard?

You know, keyboard, use to type


And if I want widgets to kill my battery life, and eat up my RAM and CPU for something i'll never use, I can jailbreak and get all the useless Widgets I want.

So, are you admitting that you don't know how widgets work?

F123D
Nov 17, 2012, 03:32 AM
And if I want widgets to kill my battery life, and eat up my RAM and CPU for something i'll never use, I can jailbreak and get all the useless Widgets I want.


Can you link us to a jailbreak for the iPhone 5?

dalbir4444
Nov 17, 2012, 07:41 AM
OP, have you ever used an Android device or just browsed the Play Store?

LIVEFRMNYC
Nov 17, 2012, 09:34 AM
Google is already almost finished making the Maps app for iOS, and should be released next wed. Thank God!



Highly doubtful.

http://m.guardiannews.com/technology/2012/nov/05/google-maps-doubt-iphone?cat=technology&type=article

onthecouchagain
Nov 17, 2012, 09:55 AM
Pretty much any launcher, any keyboard, any widget and Google Maps.

This times 100.

iOS, where's your god now?! :cool:

Heh, just demonstrating how silly it is to try to match apps with apps. The argument goes both ways. And frankly, I rather have swiftkey than any exclusive game iOS might have. Being able to type emails and texts properly is slightly more important to me.

Vegastouch
Nov 17, 2012, 11:29 AM
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Yeah it's so ridiculous that GTA Chinatown Wars was one of the DS highest selling games, which had a much smaller screen than iOS devices.

So, i dont care if it is one of the biggest sellers on a DS. Only teenagers have those. I had to think for a minute what a DS was its been so long since ive seen one. Why are you even bringing up a DS? You must be one of those teenagers.

Android has a 80% market share and here you are trying to tell us how much better games are on the iPhone. The world doesnt agree with you.
I repeat, it is ridiculous to play those games on a 4" screen. Waste of money.


iOS has way more to offer as far as music, art, and education apps too, which are genres that aren't just for kids.[COLOR="#808080"]



I dont agree but whatever. Stick to your iPhone and iOS. Nobody really cares. The screen is just too small for me though.

inhalewaste
Nov 17, 2012, 06:13 PM
So, i dont care if it is one of the biggest sellers on a DS. Only teenagers have those. I had to think for a minute what a DS was its been so long since ive seen one. Why are you even bringing up a DS? You must be one of those teenagers.

Android has a 80% market share and here you are trying to tell us how much better games are on the iPhone. The world doesnt agree with you.
I repeat, it is ridiculous to play those games on a 4" screen. Waste of money.




I dont agree but whatever. Stick to your iPhone and iOS. Nobody really cares. The screen is just too small for me though.


It's baffling why anyone comes to the Alternative forums without any intentions to discuss alternatives to iOS. In fact, they will create threads just like this telling us explicitly why they won't ever consider alternatives. Shouldn't threads like this be in the iPhone forums? How come when a thread highlighting why people have chosen Android over iOS pops up in the iPhone forums, it is considered trolling or inappropriate and gets moved here, but a thread highlighting why they stay with iOS over Android can exist without restrictions in the Alternatives?

The mods ought to do a better job of deciphering who's trolling who.

cnev3
Nov 17, 2012, 11:12 PM
I've updated the list and added about 25 more apps to it. Again, only ones that are rated 4 stars or higher.

hyteckit
Nov 17, 2012, 11:18 PM
I rather have a list of games/apps that is incompatible with so or so android device.

Apps/games that are incompatible with:
Nexus 7
Acer Iconia
Asus Transformer
so forth

I was wondering where I can get a list of popular apps/games incompatible with the Nexus 7.

Just because it's on the Google play store doesn't mean much if it doesn't run on your android device.

cnev3
Nov 17, 2012, 11:27 PM
So, i dont care if it is one of the biggest sellers on a DS. Only teenagers have those. I had to think for a minute what a DS was its been so long since ive seen one. Why are you even bringing up a DS? You must be one of those teenagers.

Android has a 80% market share and here you are trying to tell us how much better games are on the iPhone. The world doesnt agree with you.
I repeat, it is ridiculous to play those games on a 4" screen. Waste of money.




I dont agree but whatever. Stick to your iPhone and iOS. Nobody really cares. The screen is just too small for me though.

The point I was making was not about the DS, it was to prove how ridiculous your argument about screen size being inadequate was. Don't be so dense. I don't even own a DS.

Are you saying that a 4" screen is inadequate for gaming, and that a 4.8" screen is? Less than an inch difference?

Android does have a higher market share, so why is it that all the best developers make so many apps for iOS, and not android? And also, that they port iOS apps to android, instead of creating an android native version?

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Just because it's on the Google play store doesn't mean much if it doesn't run on your android device.

The first app I bought for my new android phone was Modern Combat 3, for $7. And my phone could not run it. GPU wasnt strong enough. It looked like a slide show. Money down the drain.

But that's what happens when you have hundreds of different models of phones using the same app store.

Vegastouch
Nov 17, 2012, 11:42 PM
The point I was making was not about the DS, it was to prove how ridiculous your argument about screen size being inadequate was. Don't be so dense. I don't even own a DS.

Its not ridiculous. Do they even sell a DS any longer? It was great in its day, but so was Apples 3.5" screen that is now too small. The DS is obsolite.

Are you saying that a 4" screen is inadequate for gaming, and that a 4.8" screen is? Less than an inch difference?

4.8" is much better. Its less than an inch but it is also wider while Apple opted to stay skinny with less screen space. Its night and day between the GS3 4.8" screen and Apple 4" screen. Much smaller. But again, ill use my Xbox if i need to play real games.

Android does have a higher market share, so why is it that all the best developers make so many apps for iOS, and not android? And also, that they port iOS apps to android, instead of creating an android native version?

And why are all the major apps on both platforms? :rolleyes: Seems those "best" developers are on both.
There arent many more Apps on iOS than there is on Android any longer. It also goes to show you that the majority of people dont care about the Apps as a whole. That shoots your argument right down since the marketshare is much bigger on Android.


The first app I bought for my new android phone was Modern Combat 3, for $7. And my phone could not run it. GPU wasnt strong enough. It looked like a slide show. Money down the drain.

But that's what happens when you have hundreds of different models of phones using the same app store.

I guess you shouold of used the refund option. Opps. I havent had any problems because i actually do some research. Most are too lazy to do that. Just download something without reading a thing and then whine when it doesnt work. Seen that many times in here with the jailbreak crowd. Just download an update without reading anything and then their phone is bricked and then frantically want help to fix it :rolleyes:

Seems some thing never change.

hyteckit
Nov 17, 2012, 11:48 PM
The first app I bought for my new android phone was Modern Combat 3, for $7. And my phone could not run it. GPU wasnt strong enough. It looked like a slide show. Money down the drain.

But that's what happens when you have hundreds of different models of phones using the same app store.

I'm not talking about GPU requirements. It isn't about outdated hardware.

My Android tablet has Tegra 2 and can't even run plants vs. zombies or tetris. Games that run on my old Android phone won't even run newer tablet.

siiip5
Nov 18, 2012, 12:10 AM
So, i dont care if it is one of the biggest sellers on a DS. Only teenagers have those. I had to think for a minute what a DS was its been so long since ive seen one. Why are you even bringing up a DS? You must be one of those teenagers.

Android has a 80% market share and here you are trying to tell us how much better games are on the iPhone. The world doesnt agree with you.
I repeat, it is ridiculous to play those games on a 4" screen. Waste of money.

I dont agree but whatever. Stick to your iPhone and iOS. Nobody really cares. The screen is just too small for me though.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why this guy is taking the time out to post games that are available on iOS, but not Android in the Alternatives to iOS part of the forum? Makes no sense. I really don't care, since trying to play a real game like Dead Trigger or Modern Combat by tapping on the screen is completely ridiculous and one reason why games for iOS have ruined the gaming experience. He lists a game like Mortal Kombat, but then doesn't say that no one plays it on an iphone due to the tiny screen and virtual joysticks and tapping on that small screen sucks. I mean, it really sucks. Even on the ipad's 10" screen tapping and virtual joysticks suck.
And this is why Android devices like the Nexus brand, the Galaxy S and Note series, are a joy for gamers. Having native PS3 and other similar types of controller capability, makes playing games fun and not an exercise in frustration.

RMXO
Nov 18, 2012, 12:24 AM
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.square_enix.android_googleplay.chrono&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zcXVhcmVfZW5peC5hbmRyb2lkX2dvb2dsZXBsYXkuY2hyb25vIl0 .

There's a link to Chrono Trigger for Android on Google Play Store. If the link doesn't work then do a search for Chrono Trigger. It's exactly like the original game.

ReanimationN
Nov 18, 2012, 06:01 AM
Please name Android games that are better than iOS games. And please name Android productivity apps that do things that you can't do on iOS.

If you're going to make statements like that, give some kind of data to back it up.

How so? I'm genuinely curious.

I don't know what world you live in where people give powerpoint presentations on their phone, and hook up full keyboards and mouse to their phones. I've never seen that. I think I would have to try pretty hard not to laugh out loud at the sight of someone using a keyboard and mouse while looking at a 4" screen.

Besides, bluetooth devices are supported by iOS, which includes keyboards and mouse. Not sure what gave you the idea that it doesn't.

You should prove your point anyways, by making a list of android productivity apps that arent available for iOS.

Yeah it's so ridiculous that GTA Chinatown Wars was one of the DS highest selling games, which had a much smaller screen than iOS devices.

iOS has way more to offer as far as music, art, and education apps too, which are genres that aren't just for kids.

Who cares about what app store has the highest quantity of apps? They both have an insane amount. Its about what app store has the best apps.

Try making a list of android apps that are rated 4 stars or higher than arent on iOS and see if its even half as long as my list.

OP, you're 100% correct (bar those couple of Gameloft titles that are available for Android through their website and the first Chaos Rings), and not only are apps such as those missing, but the smaller and more specialised the market, the less likely there is to be an Android version of an existing iOS app. This is particularly evident in smaller countries where iOS is popular.
So, i dont care if it is one of the biggest sellers on a DS. Only teenagers have those. I had to think for a minute what a DS was its been so long since ive seen one. Why are you even bringing up a DS? You must be one of those teenagers.

Android has a 80% market share and here you are trying to tell us how much better games are on the iPhone. The world doesnt agree with you.
I repeat, it is ridiculous to play those games on a 4" screen. Waste of money.

I dont agree but whatever. Stick to your iPhone and iOS. Nobody really cares. The screen is just too small for me though.
You may disagree with the OP and you may not enjoy mobile games, but that doesn't mean you have to belittle him and what he enjoys. Plenty of older people enjoy games, on mobiles and dedicated consoles, including the DS. The average age of a gamer in the US is 30, and 32 here in Australia.

That'd be like the OP saying "widgets, changing keyboards, default programs and launchers? Only basement dwellers care about stuff like that", which definitely isn't the case. I too would rather play games such as the Metal Gear Solid series on a big tv, rather than on a touch screen mobile device, but that doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of great iOS games (and other iOS apps) that play great on a mobile that just aren't available for Android.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why this guy is taking the time out to post games that are available on iOS, but not Android in the Alternatives to iOS part of the forum? Makes no sense.

If you post a thread like this in the iPhone or iOS sections, it'll get moved here. This is the Alternatives to iOS forum, not the Android love-in forum, which is what some people seem to think. This is where all discussion about the alternatives to iOS is meant to go, both the discussion about the pros of those alternatives and the negatives of those alternatives. The OP is well within his/her rights to start such a thread and his/her criticisms are valid and warranted. There are plenty of threads dedicated to reasons as to why Android is great and why it's better than iOS and it's perfectly reasonable for threads of the opposing nature to also exist. It's a discussion forum, after all.

cynics
Nov 18, 2012, 06:25 AM
Let me cross reference my extensive game catalog with Android.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/18/tujyru5a.jpg

Hmm turns out I'm good. :)

Personally I'd rather have games like this anyway.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/18/aneretyd.jpg


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/18/atagatu2.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ld41xiq5n987m7p/Video%20Nov%2013%2C%206%2018%2041%20PM.mov

And there is no JB for iOS 6 and the iPhone 5 so it's impossible to run a emulator on it.

If I wanted to play modern games I'd turn on my PS3. But it can't play all my old childhood games.

dalbir4444
Nov 18, 2012, 08:17 AM
The first app I bought for my new android phone was Modern Combat 3, for $7. And my phone could not run it. GPU wasnt strong enough. It looked like a slide show. Money down the drain.

But that's what happens when you have hundreds of different models of phones using the same app store.

Which phone do you have?

zbarvian
Nov 18, 2012, 08:31 AM
Super Hexagon (most addictive game ever
Tiny Wings
GarageBand
TweetBot (awesome Twitter client)

Just to name a few. There are a lot.

inhalewaste
Nov 18, 2012, 10:27 AM
For the life of me, I can't figure out why this guy is taking the time out to post games that are available on iOS, but not Android in the Alternatives to iOS part of the forum? Makes no sense.

I asked the same exact question:

It's baffling why anyone comes to the Alternative forums without any intentions to discuss alternatives to iOS. In fact, they will create threads just like this telling us explicitly why they won't ever consider alternatives. Shouldn't threads like this be in the iPhone forums? How come when a thread highlighting why people have chosen Android over iOS pops up in the iPhone forums, it is considered trolling or inappropriate and gets moved here, but a thread highlighting why they stay with iOS over Android can exist without restrictions in the Alternatives?

The mods ought to do a better job of deciphering who's trolling who.


It's clear threads like this are not interested in discussing any alternatives to iOS.

I'm telling you, the list of "deal-breakers" to stay with iOS are getting shorter and awfully specific year after year. Just an observation.

ReanimationN
Nov 18, 2012, 03:30 PM
I asked the same exact question:




It's clear threads like this are not interested in discussing any alternatives to iOS.

I'm telling you, the list of "deal-breakers" to stay with iOS are getting shorter and awfully specific year after year. Just an observation.
Here's why, from the thread titled 'Read before you post - about this forum':

"The "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" forum is for discussion of non-Apple smartphones and tablets and their operating systems, as well as comparisons with Apple products.

The forum was created to meet the growing traffic in the iPhone forum and the growing interest in discussing the competition."

As I posted just before:

If you post a thread like this in the iPhone or iOS sections, it'll get moved here. This is the Alternatives to iOS forum, not the Android love-in forum, which is what some people seem to think. This is where all discussion about the alternatives to iOS is meant to go, both the discussion about the pros of those alternatives and the negatives of those alternatives. The OP is well within his/her rights to start such a thread and his/her criticisms are valid and warranted. There are plenty of threads dedicated to reasons as to why Android is great and why it's better than iOS and it's perfectly reasonable for threads of the opposing nature to also exist. It's a discussion forum, after all.

inhalewaste
Nov 18, 2012, 04:06 PM
Here's why, from the thread titled 'Read before you post - about this forum':

"The "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" forum is for discussion of non-Apple smartphones and tablets and their operating systems, as well as comparisons with Apple products.

The forum was created to meet the growing traffic in the iPhone forum and the growing interest in discussing the competition."

As I posted just before:

If you post a thread like this in the iPhone or iOS sections, it'll get moved here. This is the Alternatives to iOS forum, not the Android love-in forum, which is what some people seem to think. This is where all discussion about the alternatives to iOS is meant to go, both the discussion about the pros of those alternatives and the negatives of those alternatives. The OP is well within his/her rights to start such a thread and his/her criticisms are valid and warranted. There are plenty of threads dedicated to reasons as to why Android is great and why it's better than iOS and it's perfectly reasonable for threads of the opposing nature to also exist. It's a discussion forum, after all.


Fair enough, but there are threads here that have zero interest in comparing the competition, and only interested in explaining precisely why they would never consider anything but iOS.

But perhaps we're arguing semantics, so I'll drop it.

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So this thread is basically telling me a bunch of exclusive games are more important than a bunch of exclusive useful apps that actually translate to a better overall user experience. That's fair, but I'll take Swiftkey and Power Toggles any day.

I posted this in another thread:

The App Store is better, but the unification of apps comes at a price. Apple is limited to certain screen sizes (and more specifically, small screen sizes), certain resolutions, sometimes only priced options, and despite all these apps, you can't make any of your favorite ones the default app in iOS or sometimes you can't share directly to certain apps (Dropbox comes to mind; you can only upload via the Dropbox app itself). Many of the most popular apps, games, etc. are available or eventually will be available on Android anyway. There are some specific ones that aren't, but to me, they aren't deal breakers (likewise, there are plenty that the App Store doesn't offer. Widgets, keyboards, launchers, different browsers, etc.). I'm not knocking the App Store, just pointing out that there are caveats. If it's worth the tradeoffs, that's all good. Personally, I've found everything I need from the Play Store (and them some). Plus, I get to enjoy a larger screen, make apps default, etc.

Switchback666
Nov 18, 2012, 04:15 PM
They both suck for games, they cant even play a proper snake game right :(

marc11
Nov 18, 2012, 04:45 PM
Really this is how you spend your time? You know we probably only live once...go find a girlfriend better use of your time IMHO. As for the apps you listed, who cares I do not use any of them.

lordofthereef
Nov 18, 2012, 05:32 PM
Just wanted to say, this thread is a riot. As long as the world turns, people will continue to find a need to justify their choices to other people. And it keeps on turning...

cnev3
Nov 18, 2012, 08:53 PM
Really this is how you spend your time? You know we probably only live once...go find a girlfriend better use of your time IMHO. As for the apps you listed, who cares I do not use any of them.

I have a lot of downtime at my job. Technically, I got paid to make that list.

And I have a girlfriend. Thank you for trying to derail the thread because you lack anything relevant to reply with.

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Just wanted to say, this thread is a riot. As long as the world turns, people will continue to find a need to justify their choices to other people. And it keeps on turning...

Says the guy who has 3000 posts on this forum.

lordofthereef
Nov 18, 2012, 10:19 PM
Says the guy who has 3000 posts on this forum.

How does my activity in a forum have anything to do with what I just said? :confused: Like you, I have (well, HAD) a lot of free time at work. Show me one of my posts of "why I think iOS [or insert other OS here] is better" and I will eat crow. I'd say 80% of my posts are directly related to iOS features and or helping others with iOS features. The other 20% worthless banter (like what we are doing here).

cnev3
Nov 23, 2012, 07:54 PM
List has been updated with about 20 more apps.

Switchback666
Nov 23, 2012, 08:17 PM
List has been updated with about 20 more apps.

:eek:

SlCKB0Y
Nov 23, 2012, 08:39 PM
Monkey Island
Monkey Island 2


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.scummvm.scummvm&hl=en

siiip5
Nov 23, 2012, 09:53 PM
List has been updated with about 20 more apps.

And 99% of those apps are junk or games for little kids. There are now more apps in the Play Store than the App Store. By default that means there are more Android only apps, than iOS only apps. Doesn't mean any of them are good or that anyone cares enough to make a list.

You for some odd reason thinks a list of ios only apps means something. Hint; it doesn't.

Technarchy
Nov 23, 2012, 11:14 PM
This is only an issue depending on the games you like to play.

I don't game as much as I use to but I'm still a gamer, and iOS mangles android in selection and quality. It's like trying to compare a Playstation to a 3DO

http://i2.cdnds.net/12/03/618x464/gaming_soul_calibur_ios_screen_5.jpg

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ff/19/ff1928fc6d22005121140ffeeedc24ab.jpg

http://www.back2gaming.com/wp-content/gallery/cache/5431_crop_600x300_marvel-vs-capcom-2-ryu-vs-wolverine-5.jpg

http://mobilesyrup.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Infinity_Blade_2_110210.jpg

http://crudepixel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/punchQuest2.jpg

http://jtmgames.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/resident-evil-4.jpg?w=604

http://www.gamerchica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/2304864-bastion_ipad_01_super.jpeg

onthecouchagain
Nov 24, 2012, 12:41 AM
A list full of helpful widgets (weather, news/social feeds, quick bookmark launchers), alternative and better keyboard entry methods and experiences, alternative browsers (that can be made stock), launchers that give an even greater range of creative and customizable controls, toggle widgets... you know, useful apps... will beat the largest list of exclusive game apps any day.

: shrug : That's just me.

siiip5
Nov 25, 2012, 12:56 AM
This is only an issue depending on the games you like to play.

I don't game as much as I use to but I'm still a gamer, and iOS mangles android in selection and quality. It's like trying to compare a Playstation to a 3DO

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Only good game I see here is RE. Is that RE: 4? Kinda looks like it could be a shot from 2 as well. This is one of the franchise games that make people stay with Sony. Are you saying this game is legally for sale in the app store? I find it hard to believe Sony would allow that.

I am not really sure why anyone thinks Infinity Blade would be considered a good game? It is nothing more than timed and pre-recorded moves. I played the crap out of Dragons Lair back in the 80's because that kind of game and graphics was cutting edge then. Infinity Blade equates to a yawn factor of 9 in today's gaming world.

Street Fighter and Marvel/CAPCOM are nearly 2 decade old franchises and are portef to Android in original code. Biggest difference between iOS and Android playing these type of games; I can enjoy them with a wireless PS3 controller on a 50" TV. You get to tap on a screen in frustration, which makes me chuckle thinking about iDevice users frantically tapping on a screen, hoping they tap on the right spot.

onthecouchagain
Nov 25, 2012, 01:21 AM
Are there any really good strategy RPGs for iPad? Besides FFT.

Switchback666
Nov 25, 2012, 01:21 AM
Only good game I see here is RE. Is that RE: 4? Kinda looks like it could be a shot from 2 as well. This is one of the franchise games that make people stay with Sony. Are you saying this game is legally for sale in the app store? I find it hard to believe Sony would allow that.

I am not really sure why anyone thinks Infinity Blade would be considered a good game? It is nothing more than timed and pre-recorded moves. I played the crap out of Dragons Lair back in the 80's because that kind of game and graphics was cutting edge then. Infinity Blade equates to a yawn factor of 9 in today's gaming world.

Street Fighter and Marvel/CAPCOM are nearly 2 decade old franchises and are portef to Android in original code. Biggest difference between iOS and Android playing these type of games; I can enjoy them with a wireless PS3 controller on a 50" TV. You get to tap on a screen in frustration, which makes me chuckle thinking about iDevice users frantically tapping on a screen, hoping they tap on the right spot.

Resident evil is not a sony exclusive plus is a capcom franchise.

Technarchy
Nov 25, 2012, 03:33 AM
Resident evil is not a sony exclusive plus is a capcom franchise.

Nor is Infinity Blade, "nothing more than timed and pre-recorded moves" but I draw more humor from reading foolishness than correcting it.

cynics
Nov 25, 2012, 07:28 AM
I guess I am getting to old. There is only a small handful of games on iOS that can keep me interested for more then 30 minutes before I never touch it again. All of those are available on Android.

The thing that kills iOS gaming for me is the lack of controller support. Games like dead trigger are infinitely more fun when you aren't using on screen controllers. The same with emulators which by their very nature weren't designed for on screen controls. Also games like Doom which have been ported to Android. These kind of games using a controller be it wired ps3 or Bluetooth wii controller (works well with Nintendo and SNES games) can keep me interested for long lengths of time.

I finally was able to beat Zelda for the first time on an Android tablet.

siiip5
Nov 25, 2012, 08:00 AM
Nor is Infinity Blade, "nothing more than timed and pre-recorded moves" but I draw more humor from reading foolishness than correcting it.

Well then, you should draw tons of humor from your fellow iDevice owners saying the same thing. The game is a boring, repetitve set of recorded moves. But I am sure you are right and the rest of the world is wrong.

Link: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1349079

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Resident evil is not a sony exclusive plus is a capcom franchise.

Haven't played it in a while, but I remember it being exclusive to Sony Playstation. Are you saying that Resident Evil is legally available for download in the App Store? I ask this again, since the answer has been avoided thus far.

Technarchy
Nov 25, 2012, 08:19 AM
Well then, you should draw tons of humor from your fellow iDevice owners saying the same thing. The game is a boring, repetitve set of recorded moves. But I am sure you are right and the rest of the world is wrong.

Link: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1349079

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Haven't played it in a while, but I remember it being exclusive to Sony Playstation. Are you saying that Resident Evil is legally available for download in the App Store? I ask this again, since the answer has been avoided thus far.


The play mechanics of Infinity Blade and Dragon's lair have nothing in common, which is what you suggested and you are wrong.

Dragon's lair is a quick time event game with full motion video.

Infinity Blade is an "on the rails" action adventure game where everything is rendered in real time.

Zero in common.

And to answer your question:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/resident-evil-mercenaries-vs/id414416245?mt=8

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/resident-evil-4/id322523436?mt=8

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/resident-evil-degeneration/id308842091?mt=8

iOS has had a real Capcom Resident Evil game since 2009 in fact.

ChrisTX
Nov 25, 2012, 08:23 AM
If I wanted to play 20 year old games that werent designed to be used with a touchscreen, with the wrong aspect ratio, I could download Cydia and have all the emulators I want.

What do you do if you want to play Infinity Blade 2, or plug in a guitar and use an amp modeler?[COLOR="#808080"]


Come on now you have to admit, having emulators on the phone without having to jailbreak, or root is pretty awesome.

If I want to play Infinity Blade 2, or plug in a guitar I don't have, I go and grab my iPad. :P

Rodimus Prime
Nov 25, 2012, 08:33 AM
Haven't played it in a while, but I remember it being exclusive to Sony Playstation. Are you saying that Resident Evil is legally available for download in the App Store? I ask this again, since the answer has been avoided thus far.

It has not been a playstation exclusive for a long long long time.

Technarchy
Nov 25, 2012, 08:58 AM
It has not been a playstation exclusive for a long long long time.

Since 1997...I owned the Sega Saturn version

siiip5
Nov 25, 2012, 10:03 AM
It has not been a playstation exclusive for a long long long time.

Cool. Good to know. I guess CAPCOM signed a deal with Apple, since I don't see any of their games in the play store?

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The play mechanics of Infinity Blade and Dragon's lair have nothing in common, which is what you suggested and you are wrong.

Dragon's lair is a quick time event game with full motion video.

Infinity Blade is an "on the rails" action adventure game where everything is rendered in real time.

Zero in common.

If that helps you sleep at night, keep looking at it that way. I bought it for my ipad2 when it came out. First thing that came to mind was dragons lair. IB was a complete waste of money. Any game that should use a controller is a waste on ios.

Tinmania
Nov 25, 2012, 10:19 AM
Come on now you have to admit, having emulators on the phone without having to jailbreak, or root is pretty awesome.

If I want to play Infinity Blade 2, or plug in a guitar I don't have, I go and grab my iPad. :P
I agree. I don't even want to play those games on my iPhone. The only games I would play on my iPhone since I got an iPad were simple games that were at home on the small screen (e.g., word games).

Now that I have a larger screen on my phone (Nexus 4) I am starting to expand the kind of games I will play on my phone.

But my iPad still rules on games. That said I think Infinity Blade 2 is repetitive, and don't like being on rails. I don't even have it installed anymore.




Michael

LIVEFRMNYC
Nov 25, 2012, 10:36 AM
The only big title game I enjoyed playing on the iPhone was Dead Space.

Switchback666
Nov 25, 2012, 10:49 AM
Dont if you guys like card based games but Magic: the gathering is pretty cool on the ipad, is it available on android also ? Too lazy to check myself :(

onthecouchagain
Nov 25, 2012, 10:49 AM
It's come down to games... That's what iOS devotees are arguing for. Exclusive games. Take that to mean what you will.

I've always said, the list of advantages iOS has over the competition has grown short and narrower year by year, whilst the list of advantages the competition is gaining is growing ever more vast.

This is what happens when one updates and improves at breakneck speeds, unafraid of fragmentation, while the other intentionally updates slowly, and incrementally; it's a slow game that's bound to catch up to you.

ChrisTX
Nov 25, 2012, 12:38 PM
I agree. I don't even want to play those games on my iPhone. The only games I would play on my iPhone since I got an iPad were simple games that were at home on the small screen (e.g., word games).

Now that I have a larger screen on my phone (Nexus 4) I am starting to expand the kind of games I will play on my phone.

But my iPad still rules on games. That said I think Infinity Blade 2 is repetitive, and don't like being on rails. I don't even have it installed anymore.




Michael
Infinity Blade 1, and 2 were awesome at first because of the graphics. However, I do agree it's become repetitive.

walie
Nov 25, 2012, 08:38 PM
Infinity Blade 1, and 2 were awesome at first because of the graphics. However, I do agree it's become repetitive.

It's a glorified version of fruit ninja

mathi-vadhanan
Nov 28, 2012, 02:05 AM
Storm the train is awesome on ipad.

cnev3
Dec 19, 2012, 08:18 PM
Added 20 or so new apps. Highlights include Sky Gamblers: Storm Raiders, The Room, ORC: Vengeance, Minigore 2, Carmageddon, Mega Man X, Incoboto, You Don't Know Jack, Elements Defender, and Baldur's Gate.

Not to mention Arc Squadron and Walking Dead Ep 1 went free, and Google Maps is back on iOS :)

zbarvian
Dec 19, 2012, 08:27 PM
Seriously add Super Hexagon. Super addicting.

walie
Dec 19, 2012, 11:37 PM
99% of this list is games.

If I don't care to play games on my phone or tablet, whats the point of this list? Should I make of list of Wii games that are not available on the PS3?

onthecouchagain
Dec 19, 2012, 11:41 PM
99% of this list is games.

If I don't care to play games on my phone or tablet, whats the point of this list? Should I make of list of Wii games that are not available on the PS3?

I present to you my post earlier in this thread:

A list full of helpful widgets (weather, news/social feeds, quick bookmark launchers), alternative and better keyboard entry methods and experiences, alternative browsers (that can be made stock), launchers that give an even greater range of creative and customizable controls, toggle widgets... you know, useful apps... will beat the largest list of exclusive game apps any day.

: shrug : That's just me.

But hey, cool list for iOS users (really). I play games on my iPad.

siiip5
Dec 20, 2012, 12:40 AM
LOL. The OP is still taking the time to update that list of games? Gaming on an iDevice is a pathetic joke, unless you like simple touch or swipe games.

I will challenge any iOS user using their touch screen to beat someone using a PS3 controller in a game like Modern Combat, Shadowgun, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter or Dead Trigger. Or how about Mario Kart or Super Smash Bros or Super Mario World (oh wait, I forgot. You can't play those games on iOS.) Or how about the Microsoft Office suite? Oh yeah, you can't do excel, PowerPoint or word docs. And even with Pages, you don't have full editing capability.

What about Snapseed or an app like ReNotify that allows you to create and edit your own notifications within the notification center? What about something like CarHomeUltra, which when the app is started you have nice big customizable buttons which can be set for any app, Bluetooth auto starts and large LED info of speed, location, direction and time is on screen. New emails and texts can be set to be read through your cars speakers as well. How about a torrent or file manager apps? No?

You see, these are called 'useful apps, not some pityful, useless swipe the screen game for 5 year old kids.

ReanimationN
Dec 20, 2012, 02:52 AM
LOL. The OP is still taking the time to update that list of games? Gaming on an iDevice is a pathetic joke, unless you like simple touch or swipe games.
I don't play many games on my iPhone, but the Chaos Rings series are great examples of iOS games with excellent production values that also control extremely well using just the touch screen. They're definitely not simple Fruit Ninja/Angry Birds/Doodle Jump style games. Although I definitely agree that some genres control terribly on the iPhone. You seem to be into FPS and fighting games, I'm not into those types of games at all, bar Super Smash Bros., but the ones I've tried on the iPhone have all controlled terribly. I'm more into RPG, strategy and puzzle games and the iPhone caters to my tastes quite well.
I will challenge any iOS user using their touch screen to beat someone using a PS3 controller in a game like Modern Combat, Shadowgun, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter or Dead Trigger. Or how about Mario Kart or Super Smash Bros or Super Mario World (oh wait, I forgot. You can't play those games on iOS.)
If I was going to use a PS3 controller, I'd rather play on my 50" TV, not on a 4-5" phone screen.
Or how about the Microsoft Office suite? Oh yeah, you can't do excel, PowerPoint or word docs. And even with Pages, you don't have full editing capability.I've seen you make this claim a few times- go on, show me where I can get the full, official Microsoft Office suite on Android. Made by Microsoft, not some junky Kingsoft ripoff, and not the Windows versions channeled through a cloud server. Full, legitimate native Android versions.

And you can create MS Office documents on iOS- iOS also offers alternative Office suites.

Tarzanman
Dec 20, 2012, 08:22 AM
I've seen you make this claim a few times- go on, show me where I can get the full, official Microsoft Office suite on Android. Made by Microsoft, not some junky Kingsoft ripoff, and not the Windows versions channeled through a cloud server. Full, legitimate native Android versions.

And you can create MS Office documents on iOS- iOS also offers alternative Office suites.

You can't get the official suite on anything but Windows at the moment.
Besides Google Drive/Docs, there is the Documents to Go suite and a few others.

You can create them, edit them, even attach them to emails and send them. This is superior functionality to what is currently available on iOS, is it not?

siiip5
Dec 20, 2012, 04:12 PM
If I was going to use a PS3 controller, I'd rather play on my 50" TV, not on a 4-5" phone screen.
Ahhh, but I can. I can play on any TV with an HDMI port. i have an entire game console within my phone.

I've seen you make this claim a few times- go on, show me where I can get the full, official Microsoft Office suite on Android. Made by Microsoft, not some junky Kingsoft ripoff, and not the Windows versions channeled through a cloud server. Full, legitimate native Android versions.
I'm sorry, but if I were to email you an excel spreadsheet from my Nex7 and one from my HP, would you be able to tell the difference? No? So what difference does it make if it is the official office suite or not. Point is, i can open, edit, delete, save and email any excel, powerpoint or word document in Office 2010 or 2007 formats. Good luck with an iDevice trying any of that.


And you can create MS Office documents on iOS- iOS also offers alternative Office suites.
Please create a powerpoint or excel spreadsheet for us on your phone or ipad. Pages is the only doc editing app on ios that works well with word. There are 3rd party apps to view ppt files, but nothing built in to create or edit.

Like I said, iOS has childlike games that can function well. As long as the tap or swipe is simple and in the same area of the screen, you are mostly fine. Anything requiring multiple and quick inputs from various parts of the screen and good night.
And when it comes to useful apps or needing a phone or tablet to function more like a PC or Mac, well you can forget using an iDevice.
Be honest, iPhones and iPads are very basic. You could not replace a laptop with one, simply because the device is too restricted in what it can do. Right now, I have my Nex7 in PC mode. I have a mouse and full sized keyboard working and a 500gb external drive connected, along with a 4g tether from my Galaxy S3 sitting here on my desk. This is something you could never do with an iPad. And if you are using iOS6, you can't even jailbreak to get a portion of that functionality.
Enjoy the Apple ecosystem. Other than my iMac and MBP, I have burned that locked in ecosystem to the ground and freed myself. I will not be told what I can and can't do by a company like Apple with a device I bought. They can kiss my chocolate starfish.

onthecouchagain
Dec 20, 2012, 04:22 PM
+1 for chocolate starfish. Whatever that is.

siiip5
Dec 20, 2012, 04:35 PM
+1 for chocolate starfish. Whatever that is.
It's where the pinky goes: :D

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfu1uwAuFH1qem4n3o1_400.jpg

F123D
Dec 20, 2012, 05:06 PM
Many of these apps I have personally played and enjoyed

Wow do you have a lot of time on your hands.

onthecouchagain
Dec 20, 2012, 05:09 PM
It's where the pinky goes: :D

Image (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfu1uwAuFH1qem4n3o1_400.jpg)

Mother of god.

I really did not know that term.

nickchallis92
Dec 20, 2012, 05:21 PM
what's the point in playing thousands of games on the world's worst gaming screen anyway

zbarvian
Dec 20, 2012, 06:06 PM
what's the point in playing thousands of games on the world's worst gaming screen anyway

Idk...fun/entertainment? Just a guess.

onthecouchagain
Dec 20, 2012, 06:12 PM
It's cool and all that iOS has more exclusive games, but if the tables were turned, I think many in this thread would go on about how iOS is more adult and professional and mature.

Just a guess.

TedM
Dec 20, 2012, 06:27 PM
you should add genre categories for those games. Sure the list is great, but I don't want to play any puzzle games and its hard to tell what game is a puzzle game just by the title. Great list.

zbarvian
Dec 20, 2012, 06:29 PM
It's cool and all that iOS has more exclusive games, but if the tables were turned, I think many in this thread would go on about how iOS is more adult and professional and mature.

Just a guess.

So iOS fans would belittle the fact that Android had more exclusive games? Because that's exactly what most Android fans are doing in here. Both sides belittle the others' strengths and underscore the weaknesses, not just iOS fans.

cynics
Dec 20, 2012, 06:35 PM
So iOS fans would belittle the fact that Android had more exclusive games?

Isnt that the point of this thread?

It's the alternatives to iOS section for us Apple/Mac users that are curious about alternatives not why iOS is better then the alternatives section...

zbarvian
Dec 20, 2012, 07:39 PM
Isnt that the point of this thread?

It's the alternatives to iOS section for us Apple/Mac users that are curious about alternatives not why iOS is better then the alternatives section...

I agree, this is definitely in the wrong section lol

Dr McKay
Dec 20, 2012, 07:52 PM
So iOS fans would belittle the fact that Android had more exclusive games? Because that's exactly what most Android fans are doing in here. Both sides belittle the others' strengths and underscore the weaknesses, not just iOS fans.

Before Steam etc when people mentioned about Windows having more games than OS X, the default answer here was normally "I'm not a child, I use my computer for work"

ReanimationN
Dec 21, 2012, 08:04 AM
Ahhh, but I can. I can play on any TV with an HDMI port. i have an entire game console within my phone.
Yes, but if I was to be gaming on a TV, I'd rather be playing good quality console games like the Metal Gear Solid series, the Legend of Zelda series etc, not games meant for a 4-5" phone screen blown up on a 50" TV. There's usually a stark difference in quality between phone games and console games. Even handheld consoles destroy 99.9% of the iOS/Android catalogue. Only the Chaos Rings series and maybe a smattering of other titles could be considered console quality. I like iOS games for gaming on the go (e.g. buses and trains), when I'm not going to have a 50" TV on me and a PS3 controller. For everything else, I have my PS3, Wii, PC and laptop.

As for the emulators on a TV, I'd much rather use my laptop or PC for that, which offer far more powerful emulators and better performance than what a phone can provide me.
I'm sorry, but if I were to email you an excel spreadsheet from my Nex7 and one from my HP, would you be able to tell the difference? No? So what difference does it make if it is the official office suite or not. Point is, i can open, edit, delete, save and email any excel, powerpoint or word document in Office 2010 or 2007 formats. Good luck with an iDevice trying any of that.
No, would you be able to tell the difference between a photorealistic drawing (http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/619/075/008/realistic_drawing2_550x559.jpg) (by an amazing artist) and a photo? One set of tools is far clumsier to use and to achieve results with, while one set is easy to use and to achieve results with, both get the same result in the end. That's the difference (although a lot less extreme)- MS still makes one of the best office suites around, doing things that are incredibly easy with MS Office takes a lot of effort with most Office knockoffs. It sounds like you have found one that does what you need it to do, but that's not going to be the case for a lot of people, only the real deal will fill the gap.

And what difference does it make if it's the official suite? You've repeatedly made it sound like the official suite is available on Android. It's not, and you've now admitted that.
Please create a powerpoint or excel spreadsheet for us on your phone or ipad. Pages is the only doc editing app on ios that works well with word. There are 3rd party apps to view ppt files, but nothing built in to create or edit.Ahhh, sure? (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/office2/id350399839?mt=8)

From that link:

Office˛, the most intuitive and straightforward office document tool available on the iPhone and iPod Touch, makes it easy to open, view, create and edit Word (DOC & DOCX), Excel (XLS & XLSX) and PowerPoint (PPT & PPTX) files right from your device!

Office˛ now provides unrivaled support for document tracked changes.

Office˛ also offers the most advanced solution for connecting you to all of your stored documents! Access your Google Docs, DropBox and Microsoft SkyDrive files at any time, to securely open and work on any and all of your most important documents!

In addition to all of the creating and editing features, Office˛ also stores ANY file and easily transfers it between any computer for convenient one-stop file storage, just like a USB stick!

Office˛ can open various different file formats (DOC, DOCX, XLS, XLSX, PPT, PPTX, PDF, TXT and more), which makes viewing files effortless and ensures easy access to all of your important docs.

WORD PROCESSOR

☆ Create, edit and save Word DOC & DOCX files
☆ Character formatting, including:
- Text and fill color
- Bold, Italic, Underline
- Font face & Size
☆ Paragraph formatting including alignment, line spacing, margins, indenting, bullets and numbering
☆ Support for tables, including table creation
☆ Support for floating and inline images (inserting from camera roll or pasting from other programs)
☆ Support for shapes and floating text boxes
☆ Support for textual tracked changes
☆ Footnotes, endnotes and comments
☆ Multi-column formatting
☆ Supports section breaks, page breaks and column breaks
☆ View headers and footers
☆ Ruler bar with ability to set paragraph margins and tab stops
☆ Searching of text within documents
☆ Undo and redo, up to 100 undo levels
☆ Auto-correction and auto-completion are supported
☆ Spell check
☆ Copy & Paste, even text and images from other applications

SPREADSHEET

☆ Create, edit and save Excel XLS & XLSX files
☆ Handle multiple worksheets with unlimited rows and columns
☆ Search and sort cells
☆ Cell formatting: (bold, italic, borders, text and cell color, alignment, text wrapping)
☆ Cell types: General, Number, Currency, Percentage, Date, Time, and Text
☆ Merge cells feature
☆ Pane freezing
☆ Tap and drag to change row heights and column widths
☆ Intelligent auto range selection for range based functions
☆ Tap cells to compose formula
☆ Insert, copy, paste or cut cell ranges, rows or columns
☆ Date formats, date separators and numeric separators are all handled correctly according to the current locale, with manual override
☆ 146 different functions

PRESENTATION

☆ Create, edit and save PowerPoint PPT & PPTX files
☆ Insert images and countless common shapes
☆ Comprehensive text and paragraph formatting: (font size and face, text color and highlight, paragraph alignment, line spacing)
☆ Rotation of text and shapes
☆ Slide ordering
☆ Slide show mode with simulated laser pointer
☆ Slide show presentation on external monitor

EXTRAS

☆ File versioning. Revert to any of the last 10 file versions.
☆ Save documents, spreadsheets and presentations in PDF format
☆ Wireless printing

ORGANIZING/INTEGRATING FILES

☆ GOOGLE DOCS: Office˛ allows you to view and edit the documents and spreadsheets stored in your Google Docs account. Not only does this enhance file transfers to and from Office˛, you can also edit the same files on the iPad AND from within your web browser.
☆ Users can also open, edit, save, delete and rename files stored in Dropbox, Box.net, Microsoft SkyDrive and any WebDAV server
☆ Organize files into folders
☆ Open DOC, DOCX, XLS, XLSX, PDF, PPT, PPTX and TXT email attachments within Office˛
☆ Email any file you are working on from within Office˛
:eek:

That's just one suite, there's also others out there.

I've also used Pages in the past, I was able to edit an assignment for my last degree and email it to a guy in the group I was working with. I only did that though as my laptop was about to die and needed to get repaired and I had no other computer at the time, I would never normally do any sort of real work on an iOS or Android device- they're terrible at it compared to Windows (or OS X).
Like I said, iOS has childlike games that can function well. As long as the tap or swipe is simple and in the same area of the screen, you are mostly fine. Anything requiring multiple and quick inputs from various parts of the screen and good night.If a game doesn't involve guns or punching people, it's childlike?
And when it comes to useful apps or needing a phone or tablet to function more like a PC or Mac, well you can forget using an iDevice.
Be honest, iPhones and iPads are very basic. You could not replace a laptop with one, simply because the device is too restricted in what it can do. Right now, I have my Nex7 in PC mode. I have a mouse and full sized keyboard working and a 500gb external drive connected, along with a 4g tether from my Galaxy S3 sitting here on my desk. This is something you could never do with an iPad. And if you are using iOS6, you can't even jailbreak to get a portion of that functionality.You can't replace a laptop with an Android device either. No multi-window view (other than Samsung's limited gimmicky implementation) and no backwards compatibility with desktop apps. Done, instant deal breaker for actually getting work done. If you're willing to constantly swap what app you're looking at, while you're typing up a 10,000 word major assignment, just to use Android over Windows/OS X, then have fun with that.

Using a mouse, keyboard and external HD with that tiny screen? That sounds like the dictionary definition of a gimmick. Try running your word processor on the screen at the same time as your browser on stock Android. I'll take a Windows 8 tablet or a laptop any day.
Image (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfu1uwAuFH1qem4n3o1_400.jpg):eek:

Mother of god.

I really did not know that term.Really? You never heard these guys (http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/62717949/Chocolate+Starfish+and+the+Hotdog+Flavored+Water+1+00+Folder.jpg) back in the late 90s/early 2000s?

It's cool and all that iOS has more exclusive games, but if the tables were turned, I think many in this thread would go on about how iOS is more adult and professional and mature.

Just a guess.I don't know. Windows is the OS of choice for business, yet it's also the OS of choice for gamers. I don't think businesses look down upon Windows for being the home of the vast majority of PC games.

cynics
Dec 21, 2012, 08:19 AM
I think this thread is accurate enough. Until iOS devices use DLNA so I can connect to things for proper presentations or have USB support or even a better email client (for sending multiple files, pdf's etc) then I'm going to use Android or a laptop for work. I even prefer it for consumption, full Internet with flash (yes it can be side loaded on 4.2).

My iPad is really only used for playing games and reading. Toy? I like it though.

cnev3
Jan 5, 2013, 03:00 AM
Okay, from now on I will include at the bottom of the list, the apps I have added and removed for the latest revision, as well as post the additions and removals in an update reply.

The apps that are either highly anticipated or very popular, very unique or a new genre, or critically acclaimed will be in bold. Regardless, all the apps on the list are rated 4 stars or higher.


Games added this revision:

Battle Of The Bulge (Shenandoah Studios), Hundreds, Repulze, Arms Cartel, Split Pic, Deal Or No Deal, Scale Wizard, Mutant Fridge Mayhem, Toca Hair Salon, Swing King, The Grading Game, Bookworm (Popcap Games), Red Conquest, GeoSociety, Ravensword Shadowlands, Beatronome, The Voice: On Stage, Spellcraft, Samplr Devils At The Gate: Pacific War HD, Rad Soldiers, Mad Skills BMX, Car Town Streets, Bubble Seasons, Battleland: Warrior vs Monster HD, Pocket Heroes, Super Hexagon, Stompbox (guitar effects), The Math Tree, Batman Arhkam City Lockdown, Korg iPolysix, SpellTower, Snapguide, CraftedBattle, Blueprint 3D, Disney Super Speedway, Monster Wars, Legendary Wars, Catch The Ark, Magic 2013, Final Fantasy IV



Games removed this revision:

n/a
(like I said, for games that have recently released an Android version, let me know and i'll remove it from the list)

AppleRobert
Jan 5, 2013, 10:59 AM
I appreciate the time and effort taken for the list. I am new to iOS pretty much and wondered the difference with android.

cnev3
Jan 9, 2013, 12:32 PM
Okay i've updated the list to REMOVE a few apps that are now on Android. Those revisions take longer for me because I don't have an android device anymore and i'm not as up to date on the google play store as I used to be, so I depend on Android users help to point out apps that are on Android now.

The removals are:

Avengers Initiative, Battle Cats, Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition, Beat Hazard Ultra, Heroes of Order and Chaos, Pitfall! (2012 Remake), Puzzle & Dragons, Sonic Jump, Super Monkey Ball 2,
You Don't Know Jack

I know Baldurs Gate and YDKJ arent technically out, but I know they are both inevitably coming, and very soon, so I just removed them now so I don't forget later.

Anyone who hasn't checked out Battle Cats and Beat Hazard Ultra is missing out!

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You see, these are called 'useful apps, not some pityful, useless swipe the screen game for 5 year old kids.

A handful of apps in my list are music production apps, and for a musician who wants to plug in a guitar, bass, or keyboard into their device for recording, amp modeling, and effects, android does not have an app that does what amplitube does, or garage band, or animoog. And I haven't found an Android equivalent to iTunes U. A lot of instrument manufacturers like Korg, Propellerhead, Fender, and Moog only release their apps on iOS.

Amplitube and Garage Band we're a big reason why I made the switch.

I think it's safe to say that Android has more offerings for business/office type apps, iOS has more offerings for music, education, and art.

And you're more than welcome to make an Android exclusive list of "useful" apps :)

siiip5
Jan 9, 2013, 12:40 PM
Okay i've updated the list to REMOVE a few apps that are now on Android. Those revisions take longer for me because I don't have an android device anymore and i'm not as up to date on the google play store as I used to be, so I depend on Android users help to point out apps that are on Android now.

The removals are:

Avengers Initiative, Battle Cats, Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition, Beat Hazard Ultra, Heroes of Order and Chaos, Pitfall! (2012 Remake), Puzzle & Dragons, Sonic Jump, Super Monkey Ball 2,
You Don't Know Jack

I know Baldurs Gate and YDKJ arent technically out, but I know they are both inevitably coming, and very soon, so I just removed them now so I don't forget later.

Anyone who hasn't checked out Battle Cats and Beat Hazard Ultra is missing out!

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A handful of apps in my list are music production apps, and for a musician who wants to plug in a guitar, bass, or keyboard into their device for recording, amp modeling, and effects, android does not have an app that does what amplitube does, or garage band, or animoog. And I haven't found an Android equivalent to iTunes U. A lot of instrument manufacturers like Korg, Propellerhead, Fender, and Moog only release their apps on iOS.

Amplitube and Garage Band we're a big reason why I made the switch.

I think it's safe to say that Android has more offerings for business/office type apps, iOS has more offerings for music, and art.

Android is now getting something called iRig? Guess it is for recording pretty much anything at a professional level and has multiple input devices, including for guitars.

Link to press release: http://m.musicradar.com/news/tech/ik-multimedia-unveils-irig-recorder-android-app-569307

cnev3
Jan 9, 2013, 12:53 PM
Android is now getting something called iRig? Guess it is for recording pretty much anything at a professional level and has multiple input devices, including for guitars.

Link to press release: http://m.musicradar.com/news/tech/ik-multimedia-unveils-irig-recorder-android-app-569307

It's an iRig app that just records sound using your phones own mic.

And that hardware device is a 3rd party microphone, not a stereo jack input that allows you to use instruments.

Tinmania
Jan 9, 2013, 01:22 PM
Now all it needs is the software

...but that's the trickier part.

And that device is a microphone, not a stereo jack input that allows you to use instruments.
It is software. Good lord.




Michael

Greg.
Jan 10, 2013, 01:01 AM
Android user pointing out to OP they can play pokemon on their device:

http://i.imgur.com/FSGvo.gif

cnev3
Jan 24, 2013, 08:43 PM
List updated with more apps. Additions for this revision are:


Joe Danger, Wake The Cat, Noble Nutlings, Autumn Dynasty, Juggle It, Time Surfer, Amazing Ants, GeoDash: Wild Animal Adventure, Slingshot Racing, Tentacles: Enter The Dolphin, Madcoaster, Bumpy Road,
Skylanders: Cloud Patrol, Dondonpachi Maximum, Trenches, Archetype, Reckless Racing 2, Bounty Bots, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Shadow Vanguard, Call Of Snakes, Wurdle, Lostwinds 2: Winter of the Melodias, Spider: The Secret of Bryce Manor, Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective, Puppetshow: Mystery of Joyville, Puzzle Agent, Myst, Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4, Lego Harry Potter: Years 5-7, Hector: Badge of Carnage, Kaptain Brawe: A Brave New World, Shadow Warrior, Outwitters, Supermagical, League Of Evil 2, Smash Cops, Apocalypse Max, Robokill, Might & Magic: Clash Of Heroes, Twisted Lands: Origin HD

LIVEFRMNYC
Jan 24, 2013, 09:00 PM
Time it would take to search for all these apps in the newly revamped iOS6 app store = 10,000 light years.

onthecouchagain
Jan 24, 2013, 10:12 PM
Your list is inaccurate.

Stuntman06
Jan 25, 2013, 03:22 PM
Time it would take to search for all these apps in the newly revamped iOS6 app store = 10,000 light years.

Or 3,066 parsecs. :p

cnev3
Mar 2, 2013, 08:58 PM
The list has been updated. Highlights include the excellent Little Inferno, Gun Bros 2, Pixel People, The Silent Age, and Year Walk.

Apps added this revision:

West Legends, Penumbear, Gravity.Duck, Zombieville USA 2, King Cashing 2, The Gods: Rebellion, Polymer, Heroes and Castles, Table Top Racing, Danmaku Unlimited, Danmaku Unlimited 2, Pixel People, Warpspeed 2, 247 Missles, Robot Rampage, Skee-Ball 2, Spunk And Moxie, Jool, I, Gladiator, Expand It!, Gun Bros 2, Crazy Bill, The Silent Age, Lightning Assault, Year Walk, Crazy Quest, Phoenix HD, Parallax 2, Flight Unlimited Las Vegas, Cyto, Bit Dungeon, Escape The Swamp, Fishmoto, Tactical Soldier, Little Acorns, Le Havre, Hairy Tales, Tractor DJ, You Don't Know Jack, ModCloth, Wind Tunnel, MathMateer, Circuit Playground, Roland VR-09 Editor, Glitchamaphone, iMPC, Blue Note, Korg iElectribe, Korg iKaossilator, Korg iMS-20, Glitchbreaks, Rockmate, iSequencer HD, Bloom HD, Orphion, Percolator, Over HD, Barefoot World Atlas, Aquaria, Infinity Field, Cinebeat, Slingshot Puzzle HD, 1001 Attempts

LIVEFRMNYC
Mar 2, 2013, 09:22 PM
Google has as many apps as Android.

The missing app/game availability holds no weight on both platforms. Unless your looking for something specific. Also Apple might have a bigger Game to App ratio.

Liquorpuki
Mar 2, 2013, 09:36 PM
Far Cry 3 will probably be ported to iOS around the year 2023

The day it hits the app store people will be going iOS is the best b/c it has Far Cry 3 and Android doesn't!!

Far Cry 3 for iOS will also be F2P but you'll only be allowed to play 30 mins at a time unless you pay $10 for gems

sentinelsx
Mar 2, 2013, 10:48 PM
I don't care that much about games, but stuff Iike professional apps make by corporations in medical, engineering, environmental fields seem to favor ios.
I thought android would be better there but it is not the hot OS. Windows has been used for all that for ages on the other hand.

Dave.UK
Mar 3, 2013, 03:17 AM
The list has been updated. Highlights include the excellent Little Inferno, Gun Bros 2, Pixel People, The Silent Age, and Year Walk.

Apps added this revision:

West Legends, Penumbear, Gravity.Duck, Zombieville USA 2, King Cashing 2, The Gods: Rebellion, Polymer, Heroes and Castles, Table Top Racing, Danmaku Unlimited, Danmaku Unlimited 2, Pixel People, Warpspeed 2, 247 Missles, Robot Rampage, Skee-Ball 2, Spunk And Moxie, Jool, I, Gladiator, Expand It!, Gun Bros 2, Crazy Bill, The Silent Age, Lightning Assault, Year Walk, Crazy Quest, Phoenix HD, Parallax 2, Flight Unlimited Las Vegas, Cyto, Bit Dungeon, Escape The Swamp, Fishmoto, Tactical Soldier, Little Acorns, Le Havre, Hairy Tales, Tractor DJ, You Don't Know Jack, ModCloth, Wind Tunnel, MathMateer, Circuit Playground, Roland VR-09 Editor, Glitchamaphone, iMPC, Blue Note, Korg iElectribe, Korg iKaossilator, Korg iMS-20, Glitchbreaks, Rockmate, iSequencer HD, Bloom HD, Orphion, Percolator, Over HD, Barefoot World Atlas, Aquaria, Infinity Field, Cinebeat, Slingshot Puzzle HD, 1001 Attempts

I don't mean to sound rude, but why are you wasting your time creating this pointless list? Unless you create a list listing every app thats missing from ios and android - then its pretty pointless.

Dr McKay
Mar 3, 2013, 11:02 AM
Time it would take to search for all these apps in the newly revamped iOS6 app store = 10,000 light years.

You realise a light year is a measurement of distance right? Not time. A light year is the distance light travels in a year. Its like saying it would take 10,000 miles for iOS users to find the new apps.

LIVEFRMNYC
Mar 3, 2013, 02:29 PM
You realise a light year is a measurement of distance right? Not time. A light year is the distance light travels in a year. Its like saying it would take 10,000 miles for iOS users to find the new apps.


Yes I realize that, sarcasm knows no science.

sentinelsx
Mar 3, 2013, 02:44 PM
ITT: Choice is bad

Abazigal
Mar 4, 2013, 03:32 AM
The list is in some dire need of re-classification. Seems majority of the apps are all games, which are a dime a dozen these days.

I think it may be more meaningful to see what sort of apps IOS gets which allows them to be more versatile than android devices, despite the latter's superior specs.

For instance, there is the educreations app for ipad (and ipad mini), which is a whiteboard app that lets users record their own screencasts and host it from the creator's own website. Not available for android. Great if you are a teacher interested in flipped classroom teaching. :)