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onthecouchagain
Nov 15, 2012, 10:05 PM
A few Google related news:

Google in talks with Dish to start own carrier? http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-talks-with-Dish-to-start-its-own-mobile-carrier_id36697

Woah. If this comes to fruition, could be a huge step for them. Still kind of wishing they'd just buy Tmobile out.


UPDATE: Wow, Google/Dish partnership is happening.


... we just got word that this is really happening. While the details haven’t been finalized, Google is already deep into development on plans to roll out the service and have it live by mid-late 2013...

Google plans to make the service data-only with voice and SMS only being used as VoIP services, likely with Google Voice.

http://9to5google.com/2012/11/16/google-dish-wireless-service-is-a-go-plans-for-2013-launch-being-hatched/


UPDATE 2: More evidence of Google/Dish launching one carrier service with LTE?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexus-4-teardown-shows-hepta-band-LTE-chip_id36746


Popular Science names Google Now Innovation of the Year
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Popular-Science-names-Google-Now-the-Innovation-of-the-Year_id36692


And last but not least...

Only 0.5% of malware comes from Play Store
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-malware-perspective-only-0.5-comes-from-the-Play-Store_id36696


Some nice stuff in light of their awful Nexus 4 launch.



zbarvian
Nov 15, 2012, 10:12 PM
I was actually just ruminating on the thought of Google having their own carrier. It seems that all carriers sort of impede on Google's "Don't be evil" campaign. I personally think they ought to start making all their own hardware, as well.

atthecross
Nov 15, 2012, 10:13 PM
are there any frequencies open or would they have to buy someone?

onthecouchagain
Nov 15, 2012, 10:24 PM
I was actually just ruminating on the thought of Google having their own carrier. It seems that all carriers sort of impede on Google's "Don't be evil" campaign. I personally think they ought to start making all their own hardware, as well.

Was the Nexus Q designed by Google? I thought I read something along those lines.

Yeah, I sort of wish they would truly absorb Motorola and start making Google hardware. Though, in some ways, it's cool to get a different Nexus each year. Makes it sort of fun. Wouldn't be surprised if they eventually took control of their own hardware though. Can they make piece with OEMs if they do, though?

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Don't forget, they're already offering free calling and texting via Google Voice, and offering very affordable international calling via Google Voice.

How are they doing that?

Dolorian
Nov 16, 2012, 12:20 AM
Google in talks with Dish to start own carrier? http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-talks-with-Dish-to-start-its-own-mobile-carrier_id36697

I've seen this rumor making the rounds lately. It is certainly interesting and I think the idea of Google as a carrier that provides texting, calling, internet and it's own mobile phones (among their other services) fits the company like a glove.

Given their business model and their expertise on servers, Google could definitely offer a better product/service than competitors such as Verizon or ATT at a lower cost.

I think starting their own carrier would be a logical step for Google. They'll be able to sell/distribute their Nexus devices without any hindrance from carriers and they could both start making their own hardware via Motorola and open up their carrier for Android OEMs that want to sign up to the Nexus program so that they get the benefits of timely updates and no carrier bloat or limitations.

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I sort of wish they would truly absorb Motorola and start making Google hardware.

Me too. While it is nice to have several Android OEMs I would like to see Google take more control of the Android platform and become less dependent on 3rd parties like Azus, LG or Samsung for their own devices.

I think Samsung may eventually end up forking their own version of Android (like Amazon) and turn their back on Google further down the road. I think Google should start doing their own thing now, make their own hardware and start boosting sales of their Nexus line.

F123D
Nov 16, 2012, 12:24 AM
Popular Science names Google Now Innovation of the Year
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Popular-Science-names-Google-Now-the-Innovation-of-the-Year_id36692


Google Now is awesome. One of my favorite features since switching from the iPhone.

onthecouchagain
Nov 16, 2012, 12:30 AM
I've seen this rumor making the rounds lately. It is certainly interesting and I think the idea of Google as a carrier that provides texting, calling, internet and it's own mobile phones (among their other services) fits the company like a glove.

Given their business model and their expertise on servers, Google could definitely offer a better product/service than competitors such as Verizon or ATT at a lower cost.

I think starting their own carrier would be a logical step for Google. They'll be able to sell/distribute their Nexus devices without any hindrance from carriers and they could both start making their own hardware via Motorola and open up their carrier for Android OEMs that want to sign up to the Nexus program so that they get the benefits of timely updates and no carrier bloat or limitations.

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Me too. While it is nice to have several Android OEMs I would like to see Google take more control of the Android platform and become less dependent on 3rd parties like Azus, LG or Samsung for their own devices.

Don't forget Google currently offers free calling and free texting via Google Voice, and really cheap international calls too. Amazing service.

Dolorian
Nov 16, 2012, 12:40 AM
Don't forget Google currently offers free calling and free texting via Google Voice, and really cheap international calls too. Amazing service.

Unfortunately, I have not being able to use it as it is not available in my country. But yeah, they already have one foot in the door; starting their own carrier seems like the next logical step.

zbarvian
Nov 16, 2012, 07:09 AM
Don't forget Google currently offers free calling and free texting via Google Voice, and really cheap international calls too. Amazing service.

It'd be cool if they could combine all those services in an data-only package, and then offer that at a fraction of what the big carriers with a whole package do. I'd switch in a heartbeat (if the service was good).

Google really ought to start making profits on selling phones, though. That's why I think they should make some of their own phones. 80% of their revenue from mobile comes by iOS, and that's beyond wrong.

onthecouchagain
Nov 16, 2012, 09:08 AM
are there any frequencies open or would they have to buy someone?

So Engadget's article is slightly more informative. It references Dish having already bought spectrum:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/3gpp-approves-dish-wireless-spectrum-standards/

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80% of their revenue from mobile comes by iOS, and that's beyond wrong.

Serious questions: why is that wrong? I don't get how that works. How are they making money off iOS? Aren't they providing their services to people?

kdarling
Nov 16, 2012, 11:08 AM
80% of (Google's) revenue from mobile comes by iOS, and that's beyond wrong.

Nothing wrong with opening up a product to as many users as possible.

It's what Apple did to be a success. Think about it:

Most of Apple's iOS sales these days must be from non-Mac owners. And before iOS, the iPod wasn't a hit until iTunes supported Windows PCs.

So, because of iPod and iOS devices, most of Apple's revenue probably comes from people who wouldn't otherwise be classified as Apple users. (Which is one reason why it's dumb to believe everyone in an iPhone forum is also likely to be a longterm Apple supporter.)

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As for Google's revenue in general, mobile only accounts for about 10% right now.

An important point is that most of that income does NOT come from mobile searches, which is why a lot of the guesses about "iOS = 80%" are bogus, and why not having Google Maps on the iPhone does not matter very much.

Google has testified that the majority of their mobile income is from ads placed in mobile apps (via Google AdMob). From that, they average about $7 income per year from each device, be it Android or iOS.

Dmaynard83
Nov 16, 2012, 11:36 AM
Lets not forget google is releasing a new apps map with turn by turn to the AppStore.

...****ing *******s after years and years of no turn by turn. Once they get kicked off the iPhone for no turn by turn a few months later they have it

TheHateMachine
Nov 16, 2012, 11:44 AM
Dish is currently building a LTE only network, but companies like ATT is trying to force unrealistic rollout expectations through FCC lobbying. If ATT succeeds and the FCC imposes these expectations that cannot be met then Dish will be forced to cede control of their spectrum and sell it off.

That being said I can see Dish working very well with Google. I used to work there and Dish management is absolutely in love with Google. A lot of the advertisement and data mining coding in their receivers and services are provide by Google Analytics.

Dish Wireless could become the defacto carrier for the new future of Nexus devices running unhindered on Dish Wireless's LTE Data and VoLTE network.

onthecouchagain
Nov 16, 2012, 12:09 PM
Dish is currently building a LTE only network, but companies like ATT is trying to force unrealistic rollout expectations through FCC lobbying. If ATT succeeds and the FCC imposes these expectations that cannot be met then Dish will be forced to cede control of their spectrum and sell it off.

That being said I can see Dish working very well with Google. I used to work there and Dish management is absolutely in love with Google. A lot of the advertisement and data mining coding in their receivers and services are provide by Google Analytics.

Dish Wireless could become the defacto carrier for the new future of Nexus devices running unhindered on Dish Wireless's LTE Data and VoLTE network.


So theoretically, how would this all work? Google/Dish, who I'll just call Googlish for now!, will offer unlocked phones with no contracts? I can't imagine Googlish issuing contracts since they're so anti-contracts, right? But how will they prevent people from just buying their Nexus phones and leaving? Will they maybe offer a cheaper version with only their radios, while also having a more expensive version with other radios?

TheHateMachine
Nov 16, 2012, 12:24 PM
So theoretically, how would this all work? Google/Dish, who I'll just call Googlish for now!, will offer unlocked phones with no contracts? I can't imagine Googlish issuing contracts since they're so anti-contracts, right? But how will they prevent people from just buying their Nexus phones and leaving? Will they maybe offer a cheaper version with only their radios, while also having a more expensive version with other radios?

Most likely we will see a full unlocked version and a subsidized version. They sell their TV DVRs the same way already.

As for the buying and leaving part when this launches its going to be LTE only. The other carriers might have progressed to the point where they all have LTE and VOLTE and Google just packs all 5 US LTE bands in their phones.

It is either that, Google makes an LTE only Nexus that works on "Googlish" LTE bands only (unlikely) or they do not even bring the Nexus line to "Googlish" and just offer support through other means.

In the end as long as I get an Android device on it I will be happy. Dish tends to have pretty awesome tech (Sling and The Hopper). That and part of my severance from them includes free existing and new services for life! :D People outside of my situation with them can benefit from how much they undercut everyone else.

onthecouchagain
Nov 16, 2012, 12:30 PM
Most likely we will see a full unlocked version and a subsidized version. They sell their TV DVRs the same way already.

As for the buying and leaving part when this launches its going to be LTE only. The other carriers might have progressed to the point where they all have LTE and VOLTE and Google just packs all 5 US LTE bands in their phones.

It is either that, Google makes an LTE only Nexus that works on "Googlish" LTE bands only (unlikely) or they do not even bring the Nexus line to "Googlish" and just offer support through other means.

In the end as long as I get an Android device on it I will be happy. Dish tends to have pretty awesome tech (Sling and The Hopper). That and part of my severance from them includes free existing and new services for life! :D People outside of my situation with them can benefit from how much they undercut everyone else.

Nice man. Rock on.

When you say subsidized, what are they subsidizing it for you for? A contract?

Theoretically speaking, of course.

onthecouchagain
Nov 16, 2012, 01:21 PM
:eek:

... we just got word that this is really happening. While the details haven’t been finalized, Google is already deep into development on plans to roll out the service and have it live by mid-late 2013...

Google plans to make the service data-only with voice and SMS only being used as VoIP services, likely with Google Voice.

http://9to5google.com/2012/11/16/google-dish-wireless-service-is-a-go-plans-for-2013-launch-being-hatched/

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Dish owns LTE spectrum, don't they?

So maybe this is how Google is planning to do LTE with their Nexus line?

Dish's LTE spectrum purchase: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/3gpp-approves-dish-wireless-spectrum-standards/

onthecouchagain
Nov 16, 2012, 01:34 PM
If this Google/Dish thing takes off, it will affect ATT and Verizon to some degree, but the two carriers that will have to really watch out, are Sprint and Tmobile.

PDFierro
Nov 16, 2012, 01:37 PM
That's pretty impressive. But for me, nobody beats Verizon. The one reason I'm not getting a Nexus 4.

onthecouchagain
Nov 16, 2012, 01:55 PM
If Google plans to really roll out their own service with LTE, and then offer the Nexus 4 (2013) with LTE... that changes everything about purchasing the Nexus 4 this year.

Very big 'if' of course.

Switchback666
Nov 16, 2012, 02:21 PM
Thats pretty amazing news.

atthecross
Nov 16, 2012, 02:27 PM
even if/when it happens, it won't for me for 2yrs, i just extended my Verizon service when i got the iphone5

Dolorian
Nov 16, 2012, 05:31 PM
So it is already underway. awesome, this will really shake things up in this sector.

rillrill
Nov 16, 2012, 05:40 PM
i said it before, i'll say it again. i dig el goog's philosophy. apple just isn't on their level w/ out jobs. now send me my nexus!

Dolorian
Nov 16, 2012, 05:58 PM
i said it before, i'll say it again. i dig el goog's philosophy.

Me too. I mean I love Apple, always have, and you would need to take my MacBook Pro out of my cold death hands as I would never switch to Linux or Windows. But I dig Google more than I dig Apple, even tho both are my favorite companies.

onthecouchagain
Nov 17, 2012, 11:39 AM
More evidence of Google/Dish providing own LTE service eventually?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexus-4-teardown-shows-hepta-band-LTE-chip_id36746

Maybe?

onthecouchagain
Nov 21, 2012, 11:18 AM
It's more and more likely going to happen, but there are still hurdles a plenty:

http://9to5google.com/2012/11/21/fcc-chairman-green-lights-dish-network-wireless-proposal-delays-force-dish-to-seek-partners/

A chairman of the Federal Communications Commission just publicly backed Dish Network’s proposal to create a wireless service, according to a new report by the Washington Post.

While the FCC still needs to vote on the proposal before the end of the year, FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski supports the plan, which requires approval from the agency’s four other commissioners, because it would help increase competition in a wireless market currently dominated by AT&T and Verizon.

Dish Network said the regulatory body has apparently set limits on how it can use the wireless spectrum, however. The agency’s proposal, for instance, requires Dish to use lower power levels to reduce potential interference with neighboring airwaves. Dish said the requirement—which direct competitor Sprint Nextel supported— would limit its network and slow upload speeds.

Switchback666
Nov 21, 2012, 11:27 AM
I actually been thinking for a while now to ditch regular plan and just go with a data sim and use skype.

yly3
Nov 21, 2012, 11:30 AM
Great ! Now CIA can directly spy on people cost-free !




* disclaimer : no paranoia intended, just sick of seeing internet dependency rising so high since 2009. Thank you

onthecouchagain
Dec 24, 2012, 08:03 AM
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/12/23/our-enormous-list-of-holiday-sales-from-the-play-store-updating/

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steviewhy
Dec 24, 2012, 05:43 PM
Holiday deals from the Play Store:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/12/23/our-enormous-list-of-holiday-sales-from-the-play-store-updating/



Thanks for that, I would have missed it.

onthecouchagain
May 30, 2013, 11:21 AM
Bumping this thread so there's a place to talk about general google news.

Google says they'll continue making nexus device along with their google edition smartphones. Awesome.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/30/4379936/google-will-keep-making-nexus-hardware-says-sundar-pichai

The htc one google edition just became official too. Cheaper than the s4 google edition and in what is arguably a better package. You still get beats audio too. Apparently very limited supply so htc can test the waters first. I hope it, and the s4 version, both sell well. This is great news for android overall.

No longer can people complain about lack of updates or fragmentation. If those things are that important to you, you now have multiple options at multiple price points with various hardware designs (screen sizes, physical or on screen or capacitive buttons, plastic or glass or metal, etc) and advantages (dual speakers vs better camera, etc). All of them stock with immediate updates from google.

Amazing stuff.

Switchback666
May 30, 2013, 03:36 PM
Interesting move in the Android world, you guys think LG and SE will follow the trend ?

What about Google's own nexus devices, unless they continue the nexus 4 price point i think the 'Google edition' phones will eat the nexus line.

mattopotamus
May 30, 2013, 03:55 PM
Bumping this thread so there's a place to talk about general google news.

Google says they'll continue making nexus device along with their google edition smartphones. Awesome.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/30/4379936/google-will-keep-making-nexus-hardware-says-sundar-pichai

The htc one google edition just became official too. Cheaper than the s4 google edition and in what is arguably a better package. You still get beats audio too. Apparently very limited supply so htc can test the waters first. I hope it, and the s4 version, both sell well. This is great news for android overall.

No longer can people complain about lack of updates or fragmentation. If those things are that important to you, you now have multiple options at multiple price points with various hardware designs (screen sizes, physical or on screen or capacitive buttons, plastic or glass or metal, etc) and advantages (dual speakers vs better camera, etc). All of them stock with immediate updates from google.

Amazing stuff.

That news about the HTC google edition is thread worthy.

strausd
May 30, 2013, 04:01 PM
No longer can people complain about lack of updates or fragmentation.

Both of these will continue to be a problem until Google Edition phones are the only options, which I am sure we can both agree will never happen.

Plus, Google Edition phones aren't even offered on carrier websites or carrier stores, which are where most people buy their Android smartphones.

Not to be a negative nancy, but yes, people can still complain about the lack of updates and the fragmentation associated with Android. There are just now two additional options that make this a non issue. But the phones making this a non issue are still just that, only options.

Switchback666
May 30, 2013, 04:45 PM
Well official Google music app with all-access is finally coming across all iOS devices :)

onthecouchagain
May 30, 2013, 05:39 PM
Both of these will continue to be a problem until Google Edition phones are the only options, which I am sure we can both agree will never happen.

Plus, Google Edition phones aren't even offered on carrier websites or carrier stores, which are where most people buy their Android smartphones.

Not to be a negative nancy, but yes, people can still complain about the lack of updates and the fragmentation associated with Android. There are just now two additional options that make this a non issue. But the phones making this a non issue are still just that, only options.


Yes if you want to be that technical then people can still complain about fragmentation and lack of updates. For anyone who cares enough to know or worry about those issues, they can easily avoid it now and still have flagship hardware as I said in the rest of my post. Frankly I don't know how else you could battle fragmentation and still maintain google's android business model and philosophy.

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Interesting move in the Android world, you guys think LG and SE will follow the trend ?

What about Google's own nexus devices, unless they continue the nexus 4 price point i think the 'Google edition' phones will eat the nexus line.

LG has said they are not interested in a Google edition of their flagship. Shame.

The nexus line will continue according to Google. I can't imagine the nexus line suddenly getting expensive again. But who knows.

onthecouchagain
Jun 7, 2013, 09:16 AM
"Three Google Edition Phones Coming" http://www.androidauthority.com/google-edition-x-phone-223196/

Apparently, the third one is the Xperia Z.

This whole Google Edition thing is only getting better and better. Each year, a Google Edition of each flagship from Android manufacturers.

JaySoul
Jun 7, 2013, 09:22 AM
"Three Google Edition Phones Coming" http://www.androidauthority.com/google-edition-x-phone-223196/

Apparently, the third one is the Xperia Z.

This whole Google Edition thing is only getting better and better. Each year, a Google Edition of each flagship from Android manufacturers.

I think Google is trying to bring about a more unified Android experience. This is only the beginning, give it 3 years and I'm sure "stock Android" will be the majority.

maxosx
Jun 7, 2013, 09:25 AM
Don't forget Google currently offers free calling and free texting via Google Voice, and really cheap international calls too. Amazing service.

So true. I've been using it for some time now. It's just another example of Googles excellent services. They've done a tremendous job of creating truly innovative products.

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"Three Google Edition Phones Coming" http://www.androidauthority.com/google-edition-x-phone-223196/

Apparently, the third one is the Xperia Z.

This whole Google Edition thing is only getting better and better. Each year, a Google Edition of each flagship from Android manufacturers.

Google is the only company that's currently creating truly exciting products. They are miles ahead of any other company in the tech sector.

TheHateMachine
Jun 7, 2013, 09:48 AM
"Three Google Edition Phones Coming" http://www.androidauthority.com/google-edition-x-phone-223196/

Apparently, the third one is the Xperia Z.

This whole Google Edition thing is only getting better and better. Each year, a Google Edition of each flagship from Android manufacturers.

Remember when people said that the new Google Experience S4 would just create more fragmentation? :)

Tarzanman
Jun 7, 2013, 02:19 PM
Remember when people said that the new Google Experience S4 would just create more fragmentation? :)

People only started complaining about fragmentation after Steve Jobs said it.

Its a bit of a straw man. Any OS that has updates and revisions (like iOS) will have programs that are not backward compatible.

Core apps and the vast majority of Google Play apps work on every device that satisfies the hardware and OS version requirements. Widespread availability of stock software and developer hardware (the Nexus line) means that consumers and developers alike have a baseline reference if they want to guarantee compatibility.... and in most cases they do not have to drop $600 or sign a 2 year contract to have access to it.

I can buy a Nexus phone and both tablets new for just under $1000. That same money will only get you 2 apple mobile devices.

onthecouchagain
Jun 7, 2013, 03:42 PM
Part of me really wishes Google did this sooner, but regardless, I'm really excited about this all.

When it comes time to get a new phone next year, it's going to be fun on the bun!

Imagine flagship google editions of Galaxy S5, and 2014 versions of the One, Xperia, Phone X, and maybe even LG will get in on the fun.

Gon be kuh-razy.

onthecouchagain
Jun 18, 2013, 03:20 PM
Apple beginning to lose at their own game?

Samsung and other competitors have outgrown Apple in the premium market

http://www.androidauthority.com/apple-premium-market-stats-230080/

For smartphones $400 dollars and above... "Apple’s market share in the segment has dropped from 73 percent in May 2012, to 38 percent in May this year."

I hope Apple's gearing up some iPhone options for 2014. Even better if it's for 2013.

dkersten
Jun 18, 2013, 03:57 PM
That tells us a few things, assuming their data is correct. The first is that Apple has really fallen behind in the cell phone space. With iOS being stagnant for awhile, I think more everyday people have given Android a shot, mostly Samsung. Because of Samsung's very aggressive advertising (showing off both their products but even more growing their brand name) more people are at least aware of Samsung as a mobile phone company. Judging by the study, many of these people have even jumped ship to Android, particularly Samsung.

It also tells us that HTC is not dead yet, and perhaps even on the rise again. If they can continue to offer premium hardware, such as the One, and let Sense evolve even more, I expect them to gain more marketshare. I would really like to see them up their marketing more to recreate a name for themselves like Samsung has done.

Finally, I expect for Apple to regain some of their lost marketshare with the release of their next phone. They could really recapture the market if they bring us something new to the table.* If they just show up with a 5S and expect iOS 7 to keep them relevant for another year, they will most likely regain some marketshare initially at launch but then find themselves even further behind around this time in 2014.

*I would love to see a range of iPhone 6 models. Give us a 4 inch phone and a 4.6-5.0 inch phone. After todays possible gestures in settings leak, I think Apple may be looking to get rid of the home button (may never come to market, but I can dream right?). They could fit a 4in screen on the size of the 4/4S and a 4.6-5.0 screen on a slightly bigger phone than the iPhone 5. If they get rid of the home button though I am not sure where Apple would put a fingerprint sensor.

Anyways, the next year will bring about more competition as ever as Apple and Samsung battle it out and other companies (HTC, Blackberry, Nokia, Motorola, and Sony) try to stay relevant/survive. Just my take and I'm really excited to see what comes to market.

onthecouchagain
Jun 18, 2013, 03:59 PM
That tells us a few things, assuming their data is correct. The first is that Apple has really fallen behind in the cell phone space. With iOS being stagnant for awhile, I think more everyday people have given Android a shot, mostly Samsung. Because of Samsung's very aggressive advertising (showing off both their products but even more growing their brand name) more people are at least aware of Samsung as a mobile phone company. Judging by the study, many of these people have even jumped ship to Android, particularly Samsung.

It also tells us that HTC is not dead yet, and perhaps even on the rise again. If they can continue to offer premium hardware, such as the One, and let Sense evolve even more, I expect them to gain more marketshare. I would really like to see them up their marketing more to recreate a name for themselves like Samsung has done.

Finally, I expect for Apple to regain some of their lost marketshare with the release of their next phone. They could really recapture the market if they bring us something new to the table.* If they just show up with a 5S and expect iOS 7 to keep them relevant for another year, they will most likely regain some marketshare initially at launch but then find themselves even further behind around this time in 2014.

*I would love to see a range of iPhone 6 models. Give us a 4 inch phone and a 4.6-5.0 inch phone. After todays possible gestures in settings leak, I think Apple may be looking to get rid of the home button (may never come to market, but I can dream right?). They could fit a 4in screen on the size of the 4/4S and a 4.6-5.0 screen on a slightly bigger phone than the iPhone 5. If they get rid of the home button though I am not sure where Apple would put a fingerprint sensor.

Anyways, the next year will bring about more competition as ever as Apple and Samsung battle it out and other companies (HTC, Blackberry, Nokia, Motorola, and Sony) try to stay relevant/survive. Just my take and I'm really excited to see what comes to market.


I share your dream.

Regarding HTC: http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-is-3rd-best-selling-phone-in-the-U.S.-and-it-hasnt-hit-Verizon-yet_id44212

So that's good news for them.

onthecouchagain
Aug 22, 2013, 08:02 PM
Chrome and Chrome Beta update. Gestures makes a lot more sense now. I dig it. Among other upgrades.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/08/22/chrome-for-android-beta-30-brings-big-changes-new-gesture-navigation-improved-search-by-image-webgl-and-more/

http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/nexusae0_Screen-Shot-2013-08-21-at-11.20.42-PM_thumb.png

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Hangouts recently got updated too. Sweet.

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Oh wow. They finally brought the double-tap with a finger to zoom in/out feature that's in Maps to Chrome. :eek: About time.

Slammin'!

Savor
Aug 22, 2013, 09:34 PM
I was actually just ruminating on the thought of Google having their own carrier. It seems that all carriers sort of impede on Google's "Don't be evil" campaign. I personally think they ought to start making all their own hardware, as well. Same here.

Looking back, I think Google is probably my fav company in the world right now. They are NOT perfect. No company is. Many of their projects dont always pan out. They gather alot of our information but so does Facebook. But I simply dig alot of Google's services.

Actually Google Voice has provided me with free texting for a few years. And using the Talkatone, free calls to my parents in the U.S. before I ever used Viber. I also love how Google does with competitive prices $200 for a Nexus tablet and $300-350 for a high spec Nexus smartphone?

I do hope Google does get more into the hardware and start branding themselves. I thought the ChromePixel is pretty sweet but just way too expensive. Hopefully the next gen can be offered far less! And we have Google Glass to look forward to.

The only knock on producing tangible products is people will eventually complain abt it if it fails. Look at the fiasco with the Nexus One. HTC and Google were reflecting the blame to each other. But if that were the next steps for Google, so be it. Would love to have a Google branded phone and laptop all manufactured from Google themselves. Not Asus or Samsung or Motorola or whoever. Control the complete software and hardware experience as seamlessly as Apple but with far greater flexibility and less restrictions than the guys from Cupertino. Their software is starting to become first-rate and many of their free online services is a daily norm for people.

onthecouchagain
Aug 24, 2013, 02:48 AM
Another neat trick to Chrome Beta. Enabling a new look for the 'new tab' page. I dig it.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/08/23/heres-how-to-enable-a-brand-new-totally-different-new-tab-page-ui-in-chrome-beta-for-android/

http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/nexusae0_Chrome3.png

otismotive77
Aug 24, 2013, 07:16 AM
why havent we seen any google carrier till now:(? i was really excited about it.

onthecouchagain
Sep 10, 2013, 09:39 PM
10 minute video demonstrating all the improvements of Google Now over the past year:

yiQX-_Y0gms


It's really impressive how quickly it can get answers for you.

At the rate they're going, I can only imagine how much more it'll improve in the next year. Hopefully more hands-free-ness, for example, I wish all actions had the load bar that will automatically give the command the 'OK' to go ahead. It has this feature for a lot of commands, but some are noticeably missing.


"Show me my pictures from Amsterdamn" was a really impressive command, too. Google then loaded the pics from that album.

Or "Show me some pictures I took in a pool" or "show me pictures of my cat". Both pulled the appropriate pictures. Impressive.

MacRumorUser
Sep 11, 2013, 03:19 AM
And yet its still pretty useless for me .... And hammers my battery when on. Seriously I can do almost as much with it turned off as with it on (add appointments and reminders via voice, weather is available from a trillion different sources and such) that the negative impact it has on my battery is not worth it being on.

Todd B.
Sep 11, 2013, 08:55 AM
I don't think I want to meet the people stupid enough to let Google be their data provider.

sddabrow
Sep 11, 2013, 09:00 AM
10 minute video demonstrating all the improvements of Google Now over the past year:

YouTube: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yiQX-_Y0gms)


It's really impressive how quickly it can get answers for you.

At the rate they're going, I can only imagine how much more it'll improve in the next year. Hopefully more hands-free-ness, for example, I wish all actions had the load bar that will automatically give the command the 'OK' to go ahead. It has this feature for a lot of commands, but some are noticeably missing.


"Show me my pictures from Amsterdamn" was a really impressive command, too. Google then loaded the pics from that album.

Or "Show me some pictures I took in a pool" or "show me pictures of my cat". Both pulled the appropriate pictures. Impressive.

Thanks for sharing this! Looks quite impressive compared to Siri's capabilities.

gotluck
Sep 11, 2013, 09:03 AM
I don't think I want to meet the people stupid enough to let Google be their data provider.

So why are you in this subforum? You sure seem to be looking for those people.

heutusops
Sep 11, 2013, 09:14 AM
this thread should be made sticky... there's so much new and informative stuff here, bookmarking it:D

onthecouchagain
Sep 19, 2013, 07:29 PM
http://www.androidauthority.com/tim-cook-damage-control-271156/

Opinion: Tim Cook’s unimaginative jabs at Android are just damage control


Nice, short, and to the point.

onthecouchagain
Sep 23, 2013, 10:45 PM
The Verge covers the visual history of Android and all its features: http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/7/2585779/android-history

It's Google's 5th year anniversary today.