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chibiterasu
Nov 20, 2012, 03:57 PM
We all knew this was coming but its still sad news that Mozilla is pulling support, (Firstly, I know most of us use tenfourfox) but now that Firefox 17 has stopped supporting 10.5, I take it that updates for browsers based on Firefox running on 10.5 are going to become rarer and rarer :(

Source: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/17.0/releasenotes/



eyoungren
Nov 20, 2012, 04:32 PM
IDK. There's also Aurorafox (http://aurorafox.googlecode.com) (which I use) which is a version ahead of TenFourFox (but based on T4Fx code) and there's always Seamonkey which has been getting some regular updates as well.

rjcalifornia
Nov 20, 2012, 04:43 PM
We all knew this was coming but its still sad news that Mozilla is pulling support, (Firstly, I know most of us use tenfourfox) but now that Firefox 17 has stopped supporting 10.5, I take it that updates for browsers based on Firefox running on 10.5 are going to become rarer and rarer :(

Source: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/17.0/releasenotes/

haha It is a shame, but remember Chrome will crush them and they'll get what they deserve for leaving powerpc out in the cold.

Nameci
Nov 20, 2012, 05:22 PM
Chrome does not support ppc afaik.

MisterKeeks
Nov 20, 2012, 06:50 PM
Chrome does not support ppc afaik.

That is correct. It is a shame, as it runs amazingly fast on ancient XP hardware.


Fortunately, this doesn't effect Leopard WebKit. Also, I highly recommend that you try out Roccat Browser (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37403/roccat-browser). It runs crazy fast on the older PowerPC hardware.

I would not be too surprised if Cameron Kaiser and the other browser developers try and get later (if slightly stripped down) versions of the code running on PowerPC again.

Imixmuan
Nov 20, 2012, 07:50 PM
has stated his goal with tenfourfox past source parity is security, security, security. He's still keeping Classilla and Mac OS 9 semi relevant, so I have hope that we'll have some form of gecko browser for the forseeable future.

I have been using a browser on LinuxPPC called luakit. It is a lightweight lua framework for webkit, and brings new definition to the word fast. It takes a mere 30 MB of RAM to launch. It is a crying shame there is no equivalent for Mac OS X, as it or something like it would be major boon for us PPC diehards. Its almost entirely keyboard driven, but once you get used to hitting t to open a new tab, d to delete an open tab, etc etc, you actually learn to prefer it.

Anyone with some serious programming chops who wants to port it? I would happily donate to that project....

MisterKeeks
Nov 20, 2012, 09:45 PM
It takes a mere 30 MB of RAM to launch.

Have you tried the browser in my post above? I do think you'll be fairly impressed. Not as quite as good as luakit, but I have it started up using 42 MB of RAM at the moment.

PowerPCMacMan
Nov 20, 2012, 11:13 PM
Look, we are all alone in this and we will fight on to keep our beloved PowerPC's going as long as we can. Those with G3's, G4's and even G5's - we are all one family.. no one is to be orphaned. So long as the folks at TenFourFox are around as well as the developers who are taking care of Safari Webkit for Leopard + Aurora Fox - we have nothing to fear.

Remember, Apple deliberately did this to us. However, the PowerPC still lives on no matter how horrible it sounds when one developer ceases development.. we have to continue onward.

Yes, we all have some sort of Intel Mac or PC keeping us up to date, but PowerPC is something special and I am glad I own 3 PPC machines and the very Intel Mac Pro 6-Core I have is acting as a massive file server and print server, hosting my machines.

So what if Mozilla kills off Gecko.. there are ways around it. Cameron is not an idiot. The folks at Aurora Fox aren't either. We will always have a web browser for our beloved machines. I can say we are fairing much better than the Windows 2000 camp or even XP camp.

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No, but Stainless is similar to Chrome. Wasn't there a build of Chromium for PowerPC in development? Man! I wish I knew PPC Assembly to write some nice wicked apps for us. Sad, I don't.


Chrome does not support ppc afaik.

ChrisMan287
Nov 21, 2012, 01:37 AM
There's also Aurorafox (http://aurorafox.googlecode.com) (which I use) which is a version ahead of TenFourFox (but based on T4Fx code) and there's always Seamonkey which has been getting some regular updates as well.

I highly recommend that you try out Roccat Browser (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37403/roccat-browser). It runs crazy fast on the older PowerPC hardware.

Hmm.. Never heard of those before. I run Camino (http://caminobrowser.org) at the moment. I'll have to give those a try.

eyoungren
Nov 21, 2012, 02:11 AM
Hmm.. Never heard of those before. I run Camino (http://caminobrowser.org) at the moment. I'll have to give those a try.
Aurorafox is maintained by one of the project members on TenFourFox. It's Leopard only. The differences between the two browsers are slight. However, Aurorafox's UserAgent string will report as Firefox and not TenFourFox.

Roccat, like Sunrise, Stainless, Cruz, Shira, Demeter and a few others is WebKit. Roccat though still has a developer. Roccat is also a social browser with Facebook and Twitter integration.

Fluid is also WebKit, but it's site specific. If my only criteria for a browser was speed however, I would probably go with Roccat. It's just my personal opinion, but I think Demeter is faster. However, Demeter is not being actively maintained.

Starfighter
Nov 21, 2012, 02:22 AM
I second giving Roccat a try. They also have insanely fast, polite and caring support.

GermanyChris
Nov 21, 2012, 02:23 AM
I like fluid for the forums and Facebook and Aurora for everything else.

VanneDC
Nov 21, 2012, 02:23 AM
I prefer lynx : )

wobegong
Nov 21, 2012, 03:17 AM
We're not doing too badly for browsers ;)

Camino
Leopard Webkit
TFF
Auroa
Omniweb
iCab

I don't think we need to hit the panic button just yet with all these great people continuing to support the platform.

ChrisMan287
Nov 22, 2012, 01:04 AM
Aurorafox is maintained by one of the project members on TenFourFox. It's Leopard only.

Roccat is WebKit. Roccat still has a developer. Roccat is also a social browser with Facebook and Twitter integration.

I just tried both. I didn't like Roccat and I actually had to force quit out of Aurora because it froze up on me.

I'll stick to Camino..

eyoungren
Nov 22, 2012, 01:21 AM
Well, Aurorafox is not stable. Part of it is based on the nightly builds of Mozilla Firefox which is referred to as Aurora. Those are alpha builds.

Jethryn Freyman
Nov 22, 2012, 03:52 AM
Totally irrelevant, Firefox 3.6 was the last PPC version.

Use TenFourFox. It just released a 10.4-10.5 PPC version of Firefox 17.

MisterKeeks
Nov 22, 2012, 09:59 AM
I didn't like Roccat

Why not- if it is the User Interface, I agree. Just a bit... different.

ChrisMan287
Nov 22, 2012, 10:18 AM
Well, Aurorafox is not stable. Part of it is based on the nightly builds of Mozilla Firefox which is referred to as Aurora. Those are alpha builds.

No wonder. It was quick while it worked though lol

Why not- if it is the User Interface, I agree. Just a bit... different.

That's exactly what it was. I'm sure I'd get used to it if I used it but it was just weird. Very weird.

MisterKeeks
Nov 22, 2012, 10:56 AM
That's exactly what it was. I'm sure I'd get used to it if I used it but it was just weird. Very weird.

I have been playing around with it a little today. Try enabling Visitabs (Roccat>Preferences>Extras) That way you will have thumbnail tabs, instead of the microscopic default ones.

It does have tab sync between devices, including iOS, so it might work for those who want to use that feature on PowerPC.

And, here's the funny thing. On the developers page, for the Flick feature, the dialog box shows the page Macrumors.com (http://www.runecats.com/roccatflick.html). :D

eyoungren
Nov 22, 2012, 11:19 AM
It does have tab sync between devices, including iOS, so it might work for those who want to use that feature on PowerPC.
That's cool. Didn't realize it was on the iTunes store. Just bought it. I'm not a big fan of Roccat but the ability to sync tabs is cool. Safari on my PowerPCs is too old and I hate Safari.

ChrisMan287
Nov 22, 2012, 11:35 AM
I have been playing around with it a little today. Try enabling Visitabs (Roccat>Preferences>Extras) That way you will have thumbnail tabs, instead of the microscopic default ones.

I'll give that a try a little later on and report back. Thanks :D

adcx64
Nov 22, 2012, 02:45 PM
Still using Safari on here.

MisterKeeks
Nov 22, 2012, 04:46 PM
Still using Safari on here.

If you are referring to your Power Mac, why? Leopard Webkit is ~20% faster, and it looks exactly the same as Safari. The only changes are under the hood. Basically, faster, but with same look and feature-set.

orestes1984
Nov 23, 2012, 05:45 AM
Use Camino it's still being developed and not based on some ancient version of Firefox. If you must have Firefox install Linux.

Jethryn Freyman
Nov 23, 2012, 06:08 AM
Use Camino it's still being developed and not based on some ancient version of Firefox. If you must have Firefox install Linux.
TenFourFox 17 is based on the current Firefox 17 ESR code....

orestes1984
Nov 23, 2012, 06:10 AM
TenFourFox 17 is based on the current Firefox 17 ESR code....

Yet Ten Four Fox has always run like a pig on everything I've installed it on.

JadeGreenGirl
Nov 23, 2012, 09:53 AM
This thread is about a year too late. Firefox dropped PowerPC Leopard support in 2011. This is them dropping Intel Leopard support.

You people are obviously ignorant to the facts.

MisterKeeks
Nov 23, 2012, 10:34 AM
You people are obviously ignorant to the facts.

It is you who is incorrect in this case. We are aware that PowerPC support has been dropped. This thread pertains to the projects that are porting Intel Firefox code to PowerPC.

Next time, please think a little more about what you post.

JadeGreenGirl
Nov 23, 2012, 10:42 AM
It is you who is incorrect in this case. We are aware that PowerPC support has been dropped. This thread pertains to the projects that are porting Intel Firefox code to PowerPC.

Next time, please think a little more about what you post.

From the first post of the thread

"We all knew this was coming but its still sad news that Mozilla is pulling support, (Firstly, I know most of us use tenfourfox) but now that Firefox 17 has stopped supporting 10.5, I take it that updates for browsers based on Firefox running on 10.5 are going to become rarer and rarer

Source: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/17.0/releasenotes/ "

The talk of other options came about because people wrote that they still had Tenfourfox and others. That is all they have had for almost 2 years.

The thread is about what the original post is about, not what you distort it into.

orestes1984
Nov 23, 2012, 11:37 AM
We all knew this was coming

As I said above use Camino, it has most if not all updates from Firefox, recognises as Firefox and is lightweight enough that it doesn't cause overhead issues on slower PPC Macs. The nightly builds are updated regularly

http://caminobrowser.org/download/releases/nightly/

JadeGreenGirl
Nov 23, 2012, 01:14 PM
As I said above use Camino, it has most if not all updates from Firefox, recognises as Firefox and is lightweight enough that it doesn't cause overhead issues on slower PPC Macs. The nightly builds are updated regularly

http://caminobrowser.org/download/releases/nightly/

I didn't write the words you quoted at all. That was the original post I was quoting. I think you're confused. You like many others on this forum are just making stuff up and acting like you know something. Although Camino is a good browser it is based on firefox 3.6 and there is nothing newer at all in it other than some of Camino's own options.

All of you that pretend to know things are so engulfed in ignorance that you can never learn anything useful. To be able to learn new things you need an open honest mind in learning mode. Not in pretend to know things mode or invent facts out of thin air mode.