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MacRumors
Nov 27, 2012, 03:14 PM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/11/NewImage34.pngApple has released an update to mid-2012 MacBook Pro models to fix an issue with some Thunderbolt cables. The 442KB update is available via Apple's support site (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1612) and the Mac App Store. About Thunderbolt Firmware Update v1.1 This update addresses an issue with MacBook Pro (mid 2012) and some Thunderbolt cables that may prevent bus-powered Thunderbolt devices from functioning properly.

Article Link: Apple Releases Thunderbolt Firmware Update v1.1 (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/27/apple-releases-thunderbolt-firmware-update-v1-1/)



keysofanxiety
Nov 27, 2012, 03:17 PM
Phew, thank goodness they released this! Now my £2000 worth of Thunderbolt cables will work perfectly with my £1000 laptop. :rolleyes: ;)

daneoni
Nov 27, 2012, 03:46 PM
I think i've lost count of how many 'Thunderbolt' updates there have been since original release.

perlkour
Nov 27, 2012, 03:48 PM
Hopefully this will fix the weirdness with the Ethernet adapter.

1080p
Nov 27, 2012, 04:08 PM
When are they going to update the price of Thunderbolt accessories?

psykick5
Nov 27, 2012, 04:31 PM
When is thunderbolt going to be affordable? It's been quite a while since it was released...

Neodym
Nov 27, 2012, 04:38 PM
Hopefully this will fix the weirdness with the Ethernet adapter.
What kind of weirdness? Mine works flawlessly as far as i can tell...

On second thought: Is this targetted explicitly to non-Retina MBP's? Not required on my rMBP according to the installer.

nutmac
Nov 27, 2012, 04:49 PM
Bah! I have Thunderbolt Display, famous for USB ports not working correctly from time-to-time. I got all excited and read the headline as "Apple Releases Thunderbolt Display Firmware Update".

Brian Y
Nov 27, 2012, 04:56 PM
Not compatible with 15" retina :(.

Was hoping it may fix the random freezing when I plug in my Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter.

SilentLoner
Nov 27, 2012, 06:29 PM
Not compatible with 15" retina :(.

Was hoping it may fix the random freezing when I plug in my Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter.

I've never witnessed this :) which is a plus

MTShipp
Nov 27, 2012, 07:51 PM
Hopefully this will fix the weirdness with the Ethernet adapter.

Do tell...I have one and wondered if it was performing as it should.

MacDav
Nov 27, 2012, 10:34 PM
I still say it should be called "Lightning Bolt" ;)

MadDawg2020
Nov 28, 2012, 12:12 AM
So when are they going to fix the MacPro computers that do not have Thunderbolt?
You know those professional computers who's users are the ones most likely to adopt a technology like Thunderbolt, which was designed to be as fast as possible for professional use!

spork183
Nov 28, 2012, 12:14 AM
Image (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/27/apple-releases-thunderbolt-firmware-update-v1-1/)


Image (http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/11/NewImage34.png)Apple has released an update to mid-2012 MacBook Pro models to fix an issue with some Thunderbolt cables. The 442KB update is available via Apple's support site (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1612) and the Mac App Store.

Article Link: Apple Releases Thunderbolt Firmware Update v1.1 (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/27/apple-releases-thunderbolt-firmware-update-v1-1/)

And it hasn't broken anything yet...

MadDawg2020
Nov 28, 2012, 12:17 AM
im also kinda wondering when there will be actual Thunderbolt accessories besides $50 cables and $1000+ hard drive arrays?!

By the time Belkin actually releases its long awaited Thunderbolt breakout box, Apple will have already moved on to the next gen Applebolt standard declaring Thunderbolt a slow and obsolete technology, of course they will gladly sell you a $39 dongle so you can connect at least some of your antique accessories to the new port.

darkplanets
Nov 28, 2012, 12:26 AM
Not compatible with 15" retina :(.

Was hoping it may fix the random freezing when I plug in my Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter.

I don't have that specific issue, but sometimes it does get a bit wonky upon waking and drops the network. The solution has always been to unplug and replug the TB cable -- unplugging the Ethernet cable doesn't do squat when the in line chips are confused.

antonis
Nov 28, 2012, 01:29 AM
I believe we are going to see a difference to thunderbolt devices' price (and a much bigger number to chose from) when PCs will adopt this technology as mainstream. They have just started to do that.

alfredandrew
Nov 28, 2012, 08:47 AM
they still haven't fixed issue regarding external HDMI display using minidisplay port.... i just applied the patch on my MBP 13" mid-2012 ML 10.8.2 build 12C60 :mad:

zorinlynx
Nov 28, 2012, 08:58 AM
I saw this coming. It's like Firewire all over again, only worse because at least Firewire peripherals (such as disks) were somewhat affordable and widely available quickly after release, whereas Thunderbolt peripherals are still overpriced and unavailable.

Sad, because technically thunderbolt is an amazing interface.

yusukeaoki
Nov 28, 2012, 09:22 AM
Can you guys come up with more TB accessories and lower their price before you update my machine?

bretm
Nov 28, 2012, 10:49 AM
When is thunderbolt going to be affordable? It's been quite a while since it was released...

I guess I don't understand. It comes standard on all current models. Peripherals are pretty much the same cost as FW800 versions or eSATA versions. What's the issue?

hfg
Nov 28, 2012, 10:57 AM
I still say it should be called "Lightning Bolt" ;)

I seem to recall (from a year or two ago) that there is, or will be, a "Lightning Bolt" version of this. It is optical using fiber-optics in the cable rather than copper wire. Pictures of it were showing it as part of the USB-3 port rather than minidisplay-port and the optic cables were in 2 corners of the connector (the light transmitters/receivers were built in the devices and coupled to the fiber). They indicated that the optical version would run much faster than the wire version, didn't require active electronics in the cables ($$$), and could be available some time after the Thunderbolt was released.

I haven't seen much about it since ... so perhaps it is still being engineered to work?

nspindel
Nov 28, 2012, 12:00 PM
Bah! I have Thunderbolt Display, famous for USB ports not working correctly from time-to-time. I got all excited and read the headline as "Apple Releases Thunderbolt Display Firmware Update".

Same with me. Flakey problem, sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. Connect the laptop to the TB display, and the USB ports don't connect. I use the USB keyboard, so it's a pretty serious issue. Good thing the trackpad is bluetooth! Only fix I've found is to do a full restart of the machine while it's connected to the display.

If I wanted to reboot my machine in order to get the keyboard to work, I could just use Windows!

parish
Nov 28, 2012, 04:27 PM
Not compatible with 15" retina :(.

Ah, that's why it hasn't appeared in App Store for me then :rolleyes:


Was hoping it may fix the random freezing when I plug in my Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter.

I've never witnessed this :) which is a plus

I have :(

MacDav
Nov 28, 2012, 07:28 PM
I seem to recall (from a year or two ago) that there is, or will be, a "Lightning Bolt" version of this. It is optical using fiber-optics in the cable rather than copper wire. Pictures of it were showing it as part of the USB-3 port rather than minidisplay-port and the optic cables were in 2 corners of the connector (the light transmitters/receivers were built in the devices and coupled to the fiber). They indicated that the optical version would run much faster than the wire version, didn't require active electronics in the cables ($$$), and could be available some time after the Thunderbolt was released.

I haven't seen much about it since ... so perhaps it is still being engineered to work?

Hey thanks, I now feel vindicated. I received a lot of flack when I posted this idea before. If you're right then it all makes sense. :)

hfg
Nov 28, 2012, 07:56 PM
Hey thanks, I now feel vindicated. I received a lot of flack when I posted this idea before. If you're right then it all makes sense. :)

I did a little more research and found that "Lightning Bolt" is a AMD name for their answer to Intel's/Apple's "Thunderbolt", and it is still using the mini-display port and was discussed early in 2012. The USB-3 optical is Intel's "Light Peak" and was demonstrated in 2010. Intel also has a "Optical Thunderbolt", again part of the mini-display port and was discussed in Jan. of 2012.

I don't know which, if any, of these products will actually see product usage any time soon. They all are seeking higher speeds with cheaper cables.

so ... now back to the scheduled thread about Thunderbolt ... :)


-howard

britboyj
Nov 28, 2012, 08:35 PM
Excellent! Maybe now my Thunderbolt display will stop flickering randomly sometimes after I plug it in...

Kingsley Aghedo
Nov 29, 2012, 10:58 AM
Thunderbolt Firmware Update v1.1 addresses an issue with MacBook Pro models released in mid-2012 “and some Thunderbolt cables that may prevent bus-powered Thunderbolt devices from functioning properly,” according to Apple’s Support site.

Incremented once since its original release, the Thunderbolt Firmware Update weighs in at just 442 KB and applies to Macs running OS X Lion 10.7.4 or later (including Mountain Lion).

The firmware installation wizard supports multiple languages, including Deutsch, English, Français, Español, Italiano, Nederlands, Dansk, Norsk Bokmål, Polski, Português, Português Brasileiro, Pусский, Suomi, Svensk, Chinese, Japanese and Korean.

MacBook Pro mid-2012 customers can either download the installer package manually (via the link below) or summon it through the Updates tab in the Mac App Store.

ogee
Nov 29, 2012, 04:43 PM
Well this update had fked up my 13" mid 2012 MBP. After applying the "fix" my system boots to a flashing folder and question mark. Apples website helpfully says reapply the patch. How do you do that when you cant boot ?

:mad:

EDIT : After some work, it looks like its screwed up my after market SSD. The last block is not writable.

happy-fish
Nov 30, 2012, 02:11 PM
After applying the so-called fix (through the software update) to my mid 2012 13" MacBook Pro, I can't connect my external Dell U2711 (by mini display-port to display port cable) anymore.

At first, I got a bizarre resolution for the Dell and after trying to adjust the resolution, the Dell turned black and did not display a signal anymore.

Does anyone know if I can re-install the previous Thunderbolt firmware? How?
I have no need for Thunderbolt peripherals yet...