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zimv20
Sep 17, 2005, 04:56 PM
link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509170141sep17,1,2047669.story?coll=chi-news-hed)


Guard units stretched thin

National Guard chief: Overseas missions left forces short of much-needed gear

WASHINGTON -- The deployment of nearly 50,000 National Guard troops from 50 states as part of the Hurricane Katrina relief effort has exposed debilitating equipment shortages in a force already stretched thin by three years of deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Lt. Gen. Steven Blum, head of the National Guard, said in an interview that the needs of Guard units overseas have left troops at home without modern communications and night vision equipment, as well as the vehicles necessary for Guard troops to traverse neighborhoods flooded in the wake of Katrina.

"Communications was the biggest challenge," Blum said of the Guard's post-hurricane performance. "You can't respond if you don't know what the situation is out there."

Most of the Guard's satellite phones--essential during the power and cell phone service outages caused by Katrina--are with troops in Iraq. Indeed, Blum said, the Guard's best equipment is overseas, causing shortages for disaster relief efforts in this country. The heavy reliance on National Guard and Reserve units by active-duty military forces in Iraq and Afghanistan has become a concern in Congress, where lawmakers have questioned whether Guard forces are receiving the proper training and equipment for combat operations.

Sen. John Warner (R-Va.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said last week that "once again our Guard is, I don't like to use the word `stressed,' but they are challenged" by commitments at home and overseas.

In the past, the military, especially the Army, has called on the Guard for logistics and other support during combat operations abroad. That was initially the case in Iraq, but as attacks on Guard units increased, so did their mission.

"The type of war America is waging in Iraq requires some of the same skills that disaster relief in the gulf states requires," said Loren Thompson, a military analyst with the Lexington Institute, a Washington-area think tank. "That would include military police, helicopters and military engineers. So there is the possibility that these two missions would come into conflict."

Governors in several states have raised concerns about the Guard's long-term overseas deployments. That's especially true in the West, where a busy fire season may be in store because of drought; Guardsmen have been used to fight fires.

The Guard staffing shortage was an immediate concern as Katrina struck the Gulf Coast, because about 6,000 Louisiana and Mississippi National Guard troops were deployed in Iraq at the time. That left about 12,500 Guard members available in the two states for hurricane relief.

Several hundred soldiers from the Louisiana unit came back early, and the Guard intends to keep all soldiers returning to hurricane-damaged states from Iraq on active duty to help in the storm-ravaged area.

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mactastic
Sep 18, 2005, 12:06 PM
Ah yes... fire season. I'm keeping the greenbelt around the house well maintained about now.

Of course if there aren't enough guard troops we can always use prisoners.

But really, the disaster in New Orleans needs to be seen for what it was. The slow initial response was part of the trade off our country has made by deciding to engage in a foreign war of this magnitude and duration. Are Americans willing to make those kind of sacrifices for the goals Bush has laid out for us? Are we ready to sacrifice American cities to the cause? Up until now, no national sacrifices have been made. The only ones sacrificing up until now were the soldiers and the families of soldiers.

We know Americans only care when things affect them personally. Fighting for liberty for Iraqis may have been something many of them supported in the abstract, but if they realize that promoting freedom abroad puts them at risk at home they may not support bringing freedom at the point of a gun to the rest of the world.

skunk
Sep 18, 2005, 12:08 PM
ABut really, the disaster in New Orleans needs to be seen for what it was. The slow initial response was part of the trade off our country has made by deciding to engage in a foreign war of this magnitude and duration. Are Americans willing to make those kind of sacrifices for the goals Bush has laid out for us? Are we ready to sacrifice American cities to the cause? Up until now, no national sacrifices have been made. The only ones sacrificing up until now were the soldiers and the families of soldiers.And a certain number of Iraqis...

Dont Hurt Me
Sep 18, 2005, 12:11 PM
There was a time when the National guard was suppose to be for this country and not fighting some !@#$%^politicians spun up war on the otherside of the planet.
After a lifetime of leaning republican i dont think ill ever be able to support these guys after seeing what they have done the past 4- 5 years. Discraceful is the only word i can think of. National Guard problem is another problem of their making.

mactastic
Sep 18, 2005, 12:50 PM
And a certain number of Iraqis...
Well I was speaking strictly from an American political POV, but yes, you are correct. In fact, many many people around the world have suffered in one way or another as a result of our Struggle Against Violent Extremism.