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MacRumors
Nov 30, 2012, 02:51 PM
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Facebook is rolling out its new Photo Sync (http://newsroom.fb.com/News/542/Photo-Sync) feature to its iOS users that automatically uploads all photos taken on the iPhone to a private photo album on Facebook. The idea is to make it easier and faster for users to share photos with their friends.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/11/NewImage40.pngWhen you turn on photo syncing, your mobile photos will be saved to a private section of your Facebook Photos. You can easily share your synced photos on your timeline from desktop, mobile, or another device.

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Only you can see the photos you've synced from your phone. Your photos are saved privately in a section of your Facebook Photos that only you can see. When you view your synced photos, you can choose shots to share or send in a private message.Facebook's support site has much more (https://www.facebook.com/help/photosync) about Photo Sync. Facebook is using background uploads within the Facebook iOS app to move the photos, not anything special with location APIs or Apple's iOS 6 Facebook integration.

The app is very clear that all photos uploaded automatically are marked as private and cannot be viewed by others until specifically shared by the user. Users get 2 GB of complimentary photo storage.

Article Link: Facebook Enables 'Photo Sync' for All iOS Users (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/30/facebook-enables-photo-sync-for-all-ios-users/)



Whatsit
Nov 30, 2012, 02:53 PM
Wow, no. For people who are 100% confident that they will never have an embarrassing photo of themselves or any of their friends on their phone, this sounds like a great option.

I am not one of those people.

(Yes, I know Facebook says all the photos will be private. Facebook says lots of things about privacy.)

gpat
Nov 30, 2012, 02:53 PM
1984 is now.

gmanist1000
Nov 30, 2012, 02:53 PM
I could see this going very wrong. Good thing it's a private album.

///M5
Nov 30, 2012, 02:53 PM
You must be nuts to enable this.

Mad Mac Maniac
Nov 30, 2012, 02:54 PM
Cue the all the "Oh no the sky is falling, facebook is evil, and who would ever want that?!" comments...

krspkbl
Nov 30, 2012, 02:55 PM
Awesome!

I can't wait to use this.

Prof.
Nov 30, 2012, 02:57 PM
Now we wait to see someone's nudes appear on fb...

r2shyyou
Nov 30, 2012, 03:00 PM
The app is very clear that all photos uploaded automatically are marked as private and cannot be viewed by others until specifically shared by the user Facebook "inadvertently" makes them all public.

Fixed that for you, macrumors bot. :D

FoxBJK
Nov 30, 2012, 03:05 PM
You must be nuts to enable this.

The average user will see this as a huge convenience; especially the people who just upload everything to the internet anyways

Boatboy24
Nov 30, 2012, 03:08 PM
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bogmonster
Nov 30, 2012, 03:16 PM
The average user will see this as a huge convenience; especially the people who just upload everything to the internet anyways

The average user is also highly susceptible to email requests from Elbonian bureaucrats looking for people to help transfer funds, as well... ;-)

huggyb
Nov 30, 2012, 03:21 PM
didn't google do this recently with G+ by just autosharing all mobile photos to G+ until people flipped out about it?

animatedude
Nov 30, 2012, 03:30 PM
when the message showed up on the iPhone App i clicked on it then it started uploading all my photos on my iPhone! i almost **** my pants!

Facebook you are rubbish!

they should have a Yes or No option before pix start uploading to your profile.

OldSchoolMacGuy
Nov 30, 2012, 03:45 PM
didn't google do this recently with G+ by just autosharing all mobile photos to G+ until people flipped out about it?

Yes the Google+ app will automatically upload all your pictures unless you tell it not to.

Facebook and Google both make their money by having as much information about you as possible. The more they get, the more they can sell it and make. It also ties you to them so they don't lose you as a revenue stream. If all your information is on their site, it makes it a big pain to take it all and move it elsewhere so most people won't bother and will just stay.

DMinTX
Nov 30, 2012, 03:57 PM
The money quote is that the first 2GB of photo storage is complementary. Then what happens?

pauliaK
Nov 30, 2012, 04:00 PM
Pointless and may end up being very harmfull. No thanks.

kirky29
Nov 30, 2012, 04:08 PM
The average user will see this as a huge convenience; especially the people who just upload everything to the internet anyways

I agree, actually I was one of the 'lucky' ones and have been uploading for the week now, it really is convenient to have them all upload. Just wish their was an option on the sidebar for quicker/easier access. And it'd be nice to be able to rotate the pictures!

I don't think I'll use it for long, but could see me setting this up for my mom, she almost lives on Facebook and always complains she doesn't understand how to get photos from her iPhone to her MacBook, this would be great for her.

kuwxman
Nov 30, 2012, 04:17 PM
Google+ has had this feature for quite awhile now. All pictures are uploaded to a private album. Way to be a follower, facebook.

avanpelt
Nov 30, 2012, 04:24 PM
I sure as heck didn't enable this and I can't think of any possible scenario where I would.

I guess Facebook built this feature for the person who doesn't trust Apple enough to enable Photo Stream; but yet they trust Facebook enough to share every single picture they have on their phones with them? :confused:

autrefois
Nov 30, 2012, 04:26 PM
*EDIT: According to avanpelt's post (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=16401561&postcount=22) and other reports, it appears to be opt-in. Thank you for the clarification. Although I still stand by my arguments against it ever being opt-out, this is not the case currently. I had read that Google+ was not and Facebook's description of the feature doesn't make this clear. It's apparently opt-in though; that's the way it should be, and let's hope it stays that way.


*How can it possibly be legal for an application to upload all your photos without your permission?

One day, the application doesn't upload all your photos. The next day, it does. When you download updates, there is not a new TOS you have to sign granting it permission to do so. Even if there is some legalese buried in the original TOS that allows them to do this in future, any change that so egregiously infringes on consumer privacy should at the very least be required to be opt-in.

If you like the idea and think it's an exciting new addition, fine -- there can be an option click to allow Facebook to upload all your photos. This should not be the default; they do not own my phone or my photos.

avanpelt
Nov 30, 2012, 04:32 PM
How can it possibly be legal for an application to upload all your photos without your permission?

I believe you do explicitly have to give permission. When I launched the Facebook app earlier today, it prompted me to either "Try it" or "Cancel" the new syncing feature. I opted to cancel.

When I go to my profile in the Facebook app and tap Photos, there is now a third tab at the bottom, "Synced". I have to explicitly click the "Sync Photos" button under that tab before the feature is enabled. I suspect you're able to revoke the syncing at any time, but I'm sure Facebook will keep multiple copies of any photo that's previously been uploaded to their servers.

blackjackmark
Nov 30, 2012, 04:32 PM
when the message showed up on the iPhone App i clicked on it then it started uploading all my photos on my iPhone! i almost **** my pants!

Facebook you are rubbish!

they should have a Yes or No option before pix start uploading to your profile.

When you clicked on the message you were opting in. My stance is always opt out/turn down anything offered by Facebook. You can always enable it later. :cool:

Zaqfalcon
Nov 30, 2012, 04:40 PM
Pointless waste of data.

bushido
Nov 30, 2012, 04:46 PM
the EU is gonna flip :eek:

cowbellallen
Nov 30, 2012, 04:48 PM
Facebook says they own the copyright to all images uploaded to their servers, and that they can share those images with third parties if they ever wanted to.

Wouldn't be surprised if Facebook launches a new 'REAL EX-GIRLFRIENDS' porn site in the near future.

autrefois
Nov 30, 2012, 05:37 PM
I believe you do explicitly have to give permission. When I launched the Facebook app earlier today, it prompted me to either "Try it" or "Cancel" the new syncing feature. I opted to cancel.

When I go to my profile in the Facebook app and tap Photos, there is now a third tab at the bottom, "Synced". I have to explicitly click the "Sync Photos" button under that tab before the feature is enabled. I suspect you're able to revoke the syncing at any time, but I'm sure Facebook will keep multiple copies of any photo that's previously been uploaded to their servers.

Thank you for explaining your experience, it sounds like I was mistaken then. If this is the case, then that's the way it should be, opt-in. Based on Facebook's description and a couple other posts, it sounded like the feature was on by default.

Xano
Nov 30, 2012, 06:03 PM
Facebook says all the photos will be private. Facebook says lots of things about privacy.
I don't trust them!

Jodles
Nov 30, 2012, 07:06 PM
Facebook says they own the copyright to all images uploaded to their servers, and that they can share those images with third parties if they ever wanted to.

Wouldn't be surprised if Facebook launches a new 'REAL EX-GIRLFRIENDS' porn site in the near future.

This, still?

""[Y]ou retain the copyright to your content. When you upload your content, you grant us a license to use and display that content.""

Facebook's license ends when you delete your intellectual property.

This article explains it well.
facebook copyright thingie (http://gawker.com/5963225/that-facebook-copyright-thing-is-meaningless-and-you-should-stop-sharing-it?post=54588023)

Morgan359
Nov 30, 2012, 08:17 PM
Facebook says they own the copyright to all images uploaded to their servers, and that they can share those images with third parties if they ever wanted to.

Wouldn't be surprised if Facebook launches a new 'REAL EX-GIRLFRIENDS' porn site in the near future.

Really? You area waist of planetary resources if you think that this would ever happen or Facebook would be stupid enough to alienate every user on the site.
the only real threat is from hackers getting on FB servers or accounts to steal them.

extricated
Nov 30, 2012, 08:30 PM
Suck it, facebook.

stickybuns
Nov 30, 2012, 08:57 PM
380790

Hope this helps those of you who clicked "Sync" in error.

John.B
Nov 30, 2012, 09:42 PM
Wow, no. For people who are 100% confident that they will never have an embarrassing photo of themselves or any of their friends on their phone, this sounds like a great option.

I am not one of those people.

(Yes, I know Facebook says all the photos will be private. Facebook says lots of things about privacy.)

Don't worry about your photos of yourself. Worry about your friends' photos of you.

TeachMeiOS.com
Nov 30, 2012, 11:06 PM
I will personally not be using this feature with facebook. Whenever you upload a photo to Facebook it becomes the property of facebook. Not sure what it means that they put these automatic uploads in a private album, but I definitely would not trust it. Besides, 2GB would get used up really fast with the hi resolution photos that the iPhones now take.

Dominicanyor
Dec 1, 2012, 12:29 AM
I will pass on this one with Facebook. I don't want all my photos to be available on a private folder on fb at all. People never know what kind of picture their going to take. For those who can't wait for this upgrade have fun with it.

tbrinkma
Dec 1, 2012, 12:43 AM
This, still?

""[Y]ou retain the copyright to your content. When you upload your content, you grant us a license to use and display that content.""

Facebook's license ends when you delete your intellectual property.

This article explains it well.
facebook copyright thingie (http://gawker.com/5963225/that-facebook-copyright-thing-is-meaningless-and-you-should-stop-sharing-it?post=54588023)

Not quite. Facebook's license ends when you delete the content *UNLESS* you or someone else has shared that content. Once that happens, there doesn't appear to be any way for that license to terminate.

Zedcars
Dec 1, 2012, 01:45 AM
380790

Hope this helps those of you who clicked "Sync" in error.

I don't have the gear icon in step 4. I just have a Sync Photos button with a padlock. Does that mean it is turned off?

John.B
Dec 1, 2012, 02:21 AM
Google+ has had this feature for quite awhile now. All pictures are uploaded to a private album. Way to be a follower, facebook.

Nominated for "Ironic Post of the Week."

vmachiel
Dec 1, 2012, 03:23 AM
Just so I got this right, this is opt in right? they won't enable it by default?

theironheath
Dec 1, 2012, 07:20 AM
This is the final push for me to dump facebook once and for all, using it less and less recently as i've been getting increasing concerned with how they treat your data and information as their property, and I really don't like the potential of where this is heading in the future, so I've cancelled my account permanently

thewitt
Dec 1, 2012, 07:34 AM
Just so I got this right, this is opt in right? they won't enable it by default?

Yes, it's opt in

stickybuns
Dec 1, 2012, 10:53 AM
I don't have the gear icon in step 4. I just have a Sync Photos button with a padlock. Does that mean it is turned off?

If it looks like THIS, it's off
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John.B
Dec 1, 2012, 11:17 AM
Just so I got this right, this is opt in right? they won't enable it by default?

For now. Until the day they implement the next set of sweeping changes that makes this opt-out by default. FB has a tremendously poor track record of doing that sort of thing.

Fukui
Dec 1, 2012, 11:30 AM
I could see this going very wrong. Good thing it's a private album.
Don’t they state in their terms of use that whatever you upload belongs to them or something? Hmm, private or not, don’t like the idea that they “own” what you do... by default. :(

camman564
Dec 1, 2012, 12:48 PM
So any photo I take on my phone is now owned by Facebook?
Where do I sign up?

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This is the final push for me to dump facebook once and for all, using it less and less recently as i've been getting increasing concerned with how they treat your data and information as their property, and I really don't like the potential of where this is heading in the future, so I've cancelled my account permanently

Permanently until you sign in again... because they save your log in just in case you feel inclined to come back

Graig
Dec 1, 2012, 12:54 PM
And Apple approves of this BS ??? Facebook is quite possibly the most harmful service on the internet. I don't use it and never will.

musukosan
Dec 1, 2012, 05:07 PM
Maybe I'm reading too much into the title, but I got a notification on my Android phone to use this too. It's not just limited to iOS users.

TacticalDesire
Dec 1, 2012, 05:17 PM
I just about s*** my pants when G+ did this to me. No way in hell I'm enabling this. I don't use FB much anyway anymore.

ThunderSkunk
Dec 1, 2012, 09:25 PM
Wow, how convenient.

...for them. To own and use any and all photos on your iphone at their discretion.

Just barely on the "questionable" side of seedy.

nsayer
Dec 1, 2012, 11:16 PM
I could see this going very wrong. Good thing it's a private album.

How does that help? The likelihood of Facebook being hacked is decidedly non-zero.

macs4nw
Dec 2, 2012, 01:00 AM
Awesome! I can't wait to use this.

Do I sense a little sarcasm there, cause if not, "Go for it". But you might just be sorry, sometime in the future.

Wow, how convenient....for them. To own and use any and all photos on your iphone at their discretion. Just barely on the "questionable" side of seedy.

My sentiments exactly. A thinly-veiled grab at control over people's good, or sometimes embarrassing pictures, on a massive scale. Until they change the TOU, I'll pass.

addersop
Dec 2, 2012, 03:54 AM
Someone, somewhere at FB, is whacking off to your "private" photos thanks to this lovely sync "feature".

MAKRUMORS
Dec 2, 2012, 06:38 AM
Someone, somewhere at FB, is whacking off to your "private" photos thanks to this lovely sync "feature".

no this is not true

hrl
Dec 2, 2012, 12:21 PM
Unlike G plus, Facebook ask for users' permissions.

iMSC
Dec 2, 2012, 12:24 PM
Sorry, but I think this automatic Facebook sync is the worst idea since Greedo shooting first.

olowott
Dec 2, 2012, 01:20 PM
so not using this, damn!!!:mad:

snappyfool
Dec 2, 2012, 06:42 PM
this is no different to apps like dropbox and google+which can only upload when active and for a short time in background, right? killed the facebook app and nothing uploaded when taking photos for me.

Fandongo
Dec 3, 2012, 01:09 AM
Finally, a private auto photo album for just me and the government.

d3bruts1d
Dec 3, 2012, 07:18 AM
No thanks.

gatearray
Dec 3, 2012, 10:38 AM
Facebook says all the photos will be private. Facebook says lots of things about privacy.
I don't trust them!

Yes, private from other FB uses until you say otherwise, but still the "property" of FB now that they've been uploaded, yes?

And do you think people's pics will just sit there on FB's servers, waiting to be shared? Of course not! They will be using geotagging and face recognition software to gleen all sort of useful information about you, where you hang out, who you hang out with, the food you eat, etc.

This is Big Brother in reverse, and will be a valuable asset to government and law enforcement one day when FB willingly makes it available to these entities.

sheels
Dec 3, 2012, 11:11 AM
Someone mad would go for this. It may end up being very harmful. So, no thanks!

nburwell
Dec 3, 2012, 11:39 AM
Being that I'm not a huge Facebook fan to begin with, even though the app is installed on my iPhone, thanks but no thanks Mark.

theironheath
Dec 3, 2012, 01:56 PM
So any photo I take on my phone is now owned by Facebook?
Where do I sign up?

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Permanently until you sign in again... because they save your log in just in case you feel inclined to come back

not if you close your account using http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=delete_account , which allows you to permanently delete with no option to retrieve

John.B
Dec 3, 2012, 03:38 PM
not if you close your account using http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=delete_account , which allows you to permanently delete with no option to retrieve

That doesn't mean Facebook doesn't retain the content, it simply deletes your future access to it.

kuwxman
Dec 3, 2012, 10:57 PM
Nominated for "Ironic Post of the Week."
Not really. If you want to get technical, Google was in the social media game before facebook. facebook just caught on better over the long haul.