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Dec 2, 2012, 09:35 PM
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There are multiple reports that some of the new 21.5-inch iMacs are shipping with an "Assembled in USA" label.

Fortune is reporting (http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/12/01/apple-assembled-usa-imac/) that one of their readers walked into a San Jose, California Apple Store and purchased an off-the-shelf iMac that was assembled in the United States. During their teardown, iFixIt also found (http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Intel+21.5-Inch+EMC+2544+Teardown/11936/1) that their iMac was assembled in the USA, as shown in the photo below.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/12/12.12.02-iMac_America.jpg
Fortune acknowledges that this has been noticed online as far back as 2006, though mostly for build-to-order MacsAs it turns out, this is not the first time the assembled-in-USA question has come up. There are several threads on the topic in the Apple support site dating back to 2006. The consensus seems to be that only units made to order -- say, with an extra-high-capacity hard drive -- get their final assembly in the States.There's a suggestion that the non build-to-order U.S. assemblies are a new phenomenon, but the distinction is far from clear.

Back in 2010, members in the MacRumors forums had reported that (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=933669) they were also receiving new iMacs being labeled as "Assembled in USA", though their exact configurations weren't discussed.

Article Link: Some New iMacs Are Assembled in the USA (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/02/some-new-imacs-are-assembled-in-the-usa/)



rnizlek
Dec 2, 2012, 09:37 PM
Wow, I wonder how widespread this is. This is great news, great to see Apple bringing back some manufacturing domestically. I wonder where their factory is.

Prost264
Dec 2, 2012, 09:39 PM
Not that Apple needs any publicity, but could you imagine if they announced that they were shifting just some of their production to the United States.

Lead story on the world news.

x13gamer
Dec 2, 2012, 09:43 PM
That's nice to hear.

dbassett
Dec 2, 2012, 09:48 PM
Would love to see more of this. Better yet, how about some components of the iPhone being made here... One can dream.

britboyj
Dec 2, 2012, 09:48 PM
When I worked for Apple, made-to-order iMacs and Mac Pros were mostly assembled in the US. This is not news.

kbt1020
Dec 2, 2012, 09:49 PM
It's USA (Oosah), China.

palmerc2
Dec 2, 2012, 09:54 PM
They're assembled by the Senior Execs in their spare time, right at HQ.

DollaTwentyFive
Dec 2, 2012, 09:57 PM
BMW, Kia and many other companies benefit from "foreign and domestic" components assembled in the USA. Even if the parts are built in china and put together here, I'm all for it. It means that somebody has a job here. Hopefully this trend will continue.

bwhli
Dec 2, 2012, 10:00 PM
Wow! Good news.

184550
Dec 2, 2012, 10:06 PM
It'd be interesting to see some quality control figures between the two countries of assembly.

When I worked for Apple, made-to-order iMacs and Mac Pros were mostly assembled in the US. This is not news.

The article made that quite clear. Glad you can confirm it though. :rolleyes:

THOPMedia
Dec 2, 2012, 10:07 PM
Ah, I get it now.
1TB HD: included.
768GB SSD: ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!! (Assembled in the USA)

mrsir2009
Dec 2, 2012, 10:09 PM
Shouldn't it say "Assembled in the USA"?

clibinarius
Dec 2, 2012, 10:15 PM
Would love to see more of this. Better yet, how about some components of the iPhone being made here... One can dream.

Gorilla Glass is quite often, as is the Samsung Foundry (Texas)...

monkeybagel
Dec 2, 2012, 10:15 PM
Excellent news!

iMikeT
Dec 2, 2012, 10:24 PM
Great news and I'm really glad to see this. I hope we see more and more of this on Apple products in the future, especially on iOS devices. It would be great to see future Apple devices not only say "Designed by Apple in California" but "Designed and Assembled by Apple in California, USA".

By the way, my 27" 2011 BTO iMac does have the Assembled in USA stamp on it. :D

marc11
Dec 2, 2012, 10:35 PM
I tell you, if Apple gave me the choice of selecting my assembly location, USA or China and even if they charged me more for the USA one, I would pick it and pay more. I would home other Americans would do the same!

skystuntz
Dec 2, 2012, 10:40 PM
Professor Farnsworth: "Good news, everyone!" :o

wordoflife
Dec 2, 2012, 10:45 PM
Swedish imac, if anyone noticed...

sammich
Dec 2, 2012, 10:46 PM
Shouldn't it say "Assembled in the USA"?

Perhaps it's part of Apple's 'nounification' phrasure. Like 'iPhone is/iPad is'.

wordoflife
Dec 2, 2012, 10:51 PM
Perhaps it's part of Apple's 'nounification' phrasure. Like 'iPhone is/iPad is'.

I doubt it's because of that. Without giving any thought into it, I think they just switched the "China" in "Assembled in China" to USA.

DrJohnnyN
Dec 2, 2012, 11:00 PM
U s a! U s a!

Chuck-Norris
Dec 2, 2012, 11:13 PM
so would the quality be any beter?

stiligFox
Dec 2, 2012, 11:17 PM
...phrasure...

Phrasure Crane?

DaveN
Dec 2, 2012, 11:20 PM
By the way, my 27" 2011 BTO iMac does have the Assembled in USA stamp on it. :D

I just checked my 2009 20" iMac and it too has the Assembled in USA stamp on it. The only thing BTO in it is the hard drive option but really, with the limited options, is any iMac really BTO?

janderson0719
Dec 2, 2012, 11:25 PM
Ok...

mikefla
Dec 2, 2012, 11:38 PM
Wow! This is progress! But 100% of the parts are still made in China. Oh well...

-Mike

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so would the quality be any beter?

Well it should be. But if it's assembled like they assemble cars like Honda's and Hyundai then no just let me make and assemble it in China.


-Mike

Dagless
Dec 2, 2012, 11:46 PM
Lead story on the world news.

How would it benefit the rest of the world? (Or is World News the name of a news channel/paper?)

Verbatim Cookie
Dec 3, 2012, 12:01 AM
I wonder where their factory is.
IT'S IN MY PANTS!
—Beavis

mrsir2009
Dec 3, 2012, 12:07 AM
I doubt it's because of that. Without giving any thought into it, I think they just switched the "China" in "Assembled in China" to USA.

Yes - Perhaps they just wanted to keep all of the other words in the same place, only having to change the China to USA.

Negritude
Dec 3, 2012, 12:21 AM
Actually, the label originally said, "Assembled in USA by Chinese Immigrants", but they decided it was better to cut it short. :D

dumb terminal
Dec 3, 2012, 12:30 AM
I wonder where their factory is.

I know Macs were at one point assembled in Fremont, CA, but I'm not sure if they still operate that facility.

The good ol' days..when Macs were made in this country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk306ZkNOuc

iMikeT
Dec 3, 2012, 12:39 AM
I just checked my 2009 20" iMac and it too has the Assembled in USA stamp on it. The only thing BTO in it is the hard drive option but really, with the limited options, is any iMac really BTO?


Limited is rather subjective. I suppose it would depend on which model you want. The higher-end models will of course offer more BTO options. I think Apple considers BTO any kind of change a customer makes to their machine at the time of order, including any combination of CPU, GPU, RAM, or Disk Drive (which are really the only major components that matter to most users and what Apple offers by default).

I ordered my iMac with the CPU and GPU maxed out, components that I can't get to easily. I would have ordered a SSD with my iMac but I couldn't justify the price per gigabyte ratio at the time I ordered it. When it came to RAM, I performed the upgrade myself.

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IT'S IN MY PANTS!
—Beavis


Only baby batter is made there. ;):D:p

devman
Dec 3, 2012, 12:39 AM
They're assembled by the Senior Execs in their spare time, right at HQ.

Yep. It's Forstall's new job during his transition time...

tdtran1025
Dec 3, 2012, 12:40 AM
False hope! It's just faster fulfillment strategy and some tax credit. All the labor intensive work is done in China. Do 't think twice when it comes to profit and loss with Apple; they will maximize the margin.

Hexley
Dec 3, 2012, 12:43 AM
This explains why BTO upgrades are so damn expensive.

Instead of FOXCONN employees you have Americans doing the assembly.

Exotic-Car Man
Dec 3, 2012, 12:48 AM
so would the quality be any beter?If it's the same quality of spelling, I sure hope not!

In all seriousness, we'll have to see if more non-BTO iMacs roll out with this tag on them. It'd be fantastic to see more of this!

Solomani
Dec 3, 2012, 01:17 AM
Not that Apple needs any publicity, but could you imagine if they announced that they were shifting just some of their production to the United States.

Lead story on the world news.

The "pro-American Made in the USA" publicity would only be good for Apple IF a significant percentage of their products were actually assembled in the USA. However, it seems that since this is only limited to BTO iMacs, that is a very small percentage of their goods, and thus the Biased Media will absolutely crucify Apple on this by making headline Tech News stating: "Apple only assembles less than 2% of their total products in their home country. The other 98% is built in Communist China! Shame on Apple, how unpatriotic! Apple is heading to failure just like DELL and HP and all the outsourcing Devils!"

In summary: Apple should not even mention this or should not even respond to these rumors (of products assembled in the USA) at all. It can only backfire on them at this point.


P.S. -- did I mention that I just ordered a BTO iMac 2012? :)

mohsy90
Dec 3, 2012, 01:22 AM
They probably just printed it to make the news and give the image that they still or are starting to make products in the usa.

Solomani
Dec 3, 2012, 01:24 AM
I know Macs were at one point assembled in Fremont, CA, but I'm not sure if they still operate that facility.

The good ol' days..when Macs were made in this country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk306ZkNOuc


My PowerBook G3 from the late 1990s (ancient relic, but it still works) states that is was assembled in California, with some components labeled "Manufactured in China".

Moriarty
Dec 3, 2012, 01:26 AM
Would be interesting to see exactly how much of this USA assembly is being done.

My guess is they are having to do some USA assembly due to the new friction-stir welding process. Once they have production running smoothly in China we may stop seeing this.

The factories will no doubt adhere to the same quality control standards, so there will be no appreciable difference there.

foidulus
Dec 3, 2012, 01:34 AM
They are doing it because it's cheaper, that's all. Even though the iMac has slimmed down quite a bit, the 27" is still about 10kg(about 5 15" retina Mbps) and is quite large, shipping them by air from China would be prohibitively expensive. Which is why they build btos in the US, the stock configs arrive by boat from China since the lead time isn't nearly as important.

Of course another effect of this is that Apple can claim they are a greener company since they are reducing emissions outputted during shipping, but...

roland.g
Dec 3, 2012, 02:09 AM
My 2011 27" iMac was made in the USA and was a built to order.

Nightarchaon
Dec 3, 2012, 03:55 AM
To use that legally all the need to do is have someone tighten a screw when it arrives from china,

There was a similar "claim" for cars in the UK, it turned out however that it was literally just putting the tyres, fuel filler caps and wiper blades on (all shipped with the cars from china) was enough to legal claim "assembled in the UK"

I suspect that apple get the iMacs shipped from china with the screen not glued down, have a final inspection in the USA to check they work, then are glued down, thus "Assembled in the USA"

Ecofriend
Dec 3, 2012, 05:15 AM
Perhaps this is only temporary. If apple usually only produces customized iMacs in the us, it is likely that they simply called the customized factory to assemble standard models to alleviate launch time back orders. If this is the case, we will see iMacs being shipped to people saying assembled in china soon enough. Well just have to wait and see.

G4DP
Dec 3, 2012, 06:08 AM
Wow, I wonder how widespread this is. This is great news, great to see Apple bringing back some manufacturing domestically. I wonder where their factory is.

They don't manufacture anything. Assembly and manufacture are two completely different things.

Widespread? It'll be the highest Spec BTO's and that's it. Nothing more. The factory will some small room on an out of town industrial estate.

Ashin
Dec 3, 2012, 06:19 AM
Assembled in USA; parts made in China :rolleyes:

Just because some American put together the lego does't constitute "Made in America"

Clever wording by Apple, that's about it

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so would the quality be any beter?

Why would it be?

Same parts, just shipped to the USA to be assembled by someone "custom" :rolleyes:

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Swedish imac, if anyone noticed...

Nice catch.

Made in China
Assembled in USA
Shipped to Sweden

Seems like an awful waste of resources to ship all that stuff around the globe :rolleyes:

ineedamac
Dec 3, 2012, 06:38 AM
Would love to see more of this. Better yet, how about some components of the iPhone being made here... One can dream.

I thought the glass was made in Kentucky by Corning at one time?

pgiguere1
Dec 3, 2012, 07:30 AM
To use that legally all the need to do is have someone tighten a screw when it arrives from china,

That's not true. Read this:
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus03-complying-made-usa-standard#Assembled%20in%20U.S.A.

A product that includes foreign components may be called “Assembled in USA” without qualification when its principal assembly takes place in the U.S. and the assembly is substantial. For the “assembly” claim to be valid, the product’s last “substantial transformation” also should have occurred in the U.S. That’s why a “screwdriver” assembly in the U.S. of foreign components into a final product at the end of the manufacturing process doesn’t usually qualify for the “Assembled in USA” claim.

Example: A lawn mower, composed of all domestic parts except for the cable sheathing, flywheel, wheel rims and air filter (15 to 20 percent foreign content) is assembled in the U.S. An “Assembled in USA” claim is appropriate.

Example: All the major components of a computer, including the motherboard and hard drive, are imported. The computer’s components then are put together in a simple “screwdriver” operation in the U.S., are not substantially transformed under the Customs Standard, and must be marked with a foreign country of origin. An “Assembled in U.S.” claim without further qualification is deceptive.

akbarali.ch
Dec 3, 2012, 07:40 AM
i think it more got to do with controlling leaks, they can do RND here in US and also manufacture small units so leaks are minimum.

ArtOfWarfare
Dec 3, 2012, 07:58 AM
I tell you, if Apple gave me the choice of selecting my assembly location, USA or China and even if they charged me more for the USA one, I would pick it and pay more. I would home other Americans would do the same!

LOL, could you see it as a BTO option?

Manufacture Location
China
USA [add $1,000.00]

pnoyblazed
Dec 3, 2012, 07:59 AM
I don't see the "Made With Pride in the U.S. of A." seal anywhere

PinoyAko
Dec 3, 2012, 08:10 AM
English is my second language so correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't it be "Assembled in the USA?

rdlink
Dec 3, 2012, 08:17 AM
Although I know it will raise the ire of some who read this, I believe this could explain some supply constraints for the new iMac.

As has been discussed previously in a couple of financial publications, the main reason why manufacturing components like this doesn't really work in the US is not necessarily the cost of American labor, as many believe. American labor would not add that much to the cost of an iPhone or Mac. The big factor is the inability of US manufacturing companies to be nimble enough to retool and ramp up fast enough to meet the needs.

longhegrin
Dec 3, 2012, 08:27 AM
As has been discussed previously in a couple of financial publications, the main reason why manufacturing components like this doesn't really work in the US is not necessarily the cost of American labor, as many believe. American labor would not add that much to the cost of an iPhone or Mac. The big factor is the inability of US manufacturing companies to be nimble enough to retool and ramp up fast enough to meet the needs.

Very good point. :)

The total cost of an iPhone or an iMac is mostly the components, only a very small portion of the total cost is for the assembly by hand. :cool:

The components are made by different factories, all near each other in China, and all capable of ramping up then ramping down production (very nimble). :D

There are no such factories in the USA. :( If there were such factories in the USA, it would not cost a lot to assemble an iMac in the USA. Assembly costs are a very small portion of the total cost. :apple:

Verbatim Cookie
Dec 3, 2012, 08:31 AM
English is my second language so correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't it be "Assembled in the USA?
I would say yes but it is (or should I say, was) typical to see MADE IN USA. :confused:

macfacts
Dec 3, 2012, 08:51 AM
To use that legally all the need to do is have someone tighten a screw when it arrives from china,

There was a similar "claim" for cars in the UK, it turned out however that it was literally just putting the tyres, fuel filler caps and wiper blades on (all shipped with the cars from china) was enough to legal claim "assembled in the UK"

I suspect that apple get the iMacs shipped from china with the screen not glued down, have a final inspection in the USA to check they work, then are glued down, thus "Assembled in the USA"

So the only thing that happens in the USA is that those build to order imacs get their custom picked ram/ssd placed in and the screen gets glued on.

Rocketman
Dec 3, 2012, 08:57 AM
It may be that assembling a small number in the USA near launch provides faster feedback and response on what models sell best so the China assembled units of the biggest volume sellers can be increased in volume. Jumpstart fill the pipe and get market data at the same time.

Of course it makes sense BTO units might be assembled near the point of shipment.

Apple is all about first mover these days.

IGregory
Dec 3, 2012, 09:43 AM
Not that Apple needs any publicity, but could you imagine if they announced that they were shifting just some of their production to the United States.

Lead story on the world news.

Yeah, crumbs.

joueboy
Dec 3, 2012, 09:43 AM
Yeah! This is like buying a TV stand at walmart and you assembled it when you get home. Nothing new about this, if I started seeing MADE IN THE USA that would me awesome. But it's a good start though, at least it's more reasonable now to pay $600 for 32gig RAM.

notjustjay
Dec 3, 2012, 10:24 AM
Yeah! This is like buying a TV stand at walmart and you assembled it when you get home. Nothing new about this, if I started seeing MADE IN THE USA that would me awesome. But it's a good start though, at least it's more reasonable now to pay $600 for 32gig RAM.

It would certainly explain the high cost of Apple's BTO RAM options (everyone has always said "Don't buy it from Apple, do it yourself") if the upgrade cost included the cost of the RAM itself and the American labor required to install it.

The real question is: now what? Will people willingly pay more for American-installed parts, or will the almighty dollar still reign and will people go for the cheaper option? That's what is really at stake here. Of course we say we want to bring the work back to domestic workers, but when it comes down to pulling out the credit cards, if we end up overwhelmingly choosing the cheapest option, well...

Rogifan
Dec 3, 2012, 10:34 AM
What about the "Designed by Apple in California"? There's a lot of smart, highly paid employees involved in bringing these products to market who work right here in the good 'ol USA. I'm assuming the same can be said for other companies Apple works with like Samsung and Qualcomm. Why is the focus just on the people assembling the final product?

shulerg
Dec 3, 2012, 10:44 AM
Pretty neat! Haven't seen one in person yet, but the new iMacs look impressive. Add to that the fact that some people are getting awesome BTO models, with assembly in the USA as a bonus.

Lol at the ungrateful wretches turning this into another culture war thread. Just no pleasing some people...

hamkor04
Dec 3, 2012, 11:16 AM
Wow, I wonder how widespread this is. This is great news, great to see Apple bringing back some manufacturing domestically. I wonder where their factory is.

Chinatown in LA?

Veinticinco
Dec 3, 2012, 11:24 AM
I still take comfort that my venerable museum piece (literally given MoMA) PowerMac G4 Cube was manufactured in the Republic of Ireland around the time of the Celtic Tiger economy.

truettray
Dec 3, 2012, 11:59 AM
Well it should be. But if it's assembled like they assemble cars like Honda's and Hyundai then no just let me make and assemble it in China.



Honda is Japanese and Hyundai is South Korean. Come on man... Nevermind the fact that my Civic was assembled in Ohio.

50548
Dec 3, 2012, 12:08 PM
Wow, I wonder how widespread this is. This is great news, great to see Apple bringing back some manufacturing domestically. I wonder where their factory is.

In other words, the US is quickly becoming the new China. Congratulations..! ;)

nsayer
Dec 3, 2012, 12:15 PM
I tell you, if Apple gave me the choice of selecting my assembly location, USA or China and even if they charged me more for the USA one, I would pick it and pay more. I would home other Americans would do the same!

I, for one, would not.

The less money I pay for thing X, the more I have for buying thing Y, or perhaps Y and Z.

50548
Dec 3, 2012, 12:16 PM
so would the quality be any beter?

Of course not - if in doubt, check the Apple ///.

QC standards are and must be the same all over the world - this only means that Apple is continuing its pursuit of risk mitigation and supply-chain gravity models as far as production is concerned(i.e., spreading plants between China, US, Brazil and Ireland).

Not to mention the apparently positive political effect it may have in its home market, for sure...just see the comments above.

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Shouldn't this comment thread be moved to Politic and Social Discussion? This has very political nature attached.

It will soon be moved, worry not ;)

Ralf The Dog
Dec 3, 2012, 12:18 PM
The "pro-American Made in the USA" publicity would only be good for Apple IF a significant percentage of their products were actually assembled in the USA. However, it seems that since this is only limited to BTO iMacs, that is a very small percentage of their goods, and thus the Biased Media will absolutely crucify Apple on this by making headline Tech News stating: "Apple only assembles less than 2% of their total products in their home country. The other 98% is built in Communist China! Shame on Apple, how unpatriotic! Apple is heading to failure just like DELL and HP and all the outsourcing Devils!"

In summary: Apple should not even mention this or should not even respond to these rumors (of products assembled in the USA) at all. It can only backfire on them at this point.


P.S. -- did I mention that I just ordered a BTO iMac 2012? :)

The point is, this is not a BTO Mac, it is a generic, off the shelf Mac. If it was BTO, this would not be a story. (If it was a BLT Mac, that would be a story, then again, it is almost lunch.)

Jobs for people in the U.S. is always a good thing..

However does it really make that big of a difference if it was assembled by a fully automated assembly line in China or a fully automated assembly line in the U.S.?

I guess someone has to fix the robots...

There is only so much robots can do. They are not that good at assembling small parts. They are also, not good when your factory changes what it does on a day to day bases.

They don't manufacture anything. Assembly and manufacture are two completely different things.

Widespread? It'll be the highest Spec BTO's and that's it. Nothing more. The factory will some small room on an out of town industrial estate.

In Untied States, you must do quite a bit of work to have the "Assembled in" label.

RE: BTO,

See my comment above, it was not BTO, the question is, how many of these off the shelf Macs are made in USA?

superrcat
Dec 3, 2012, 02:10 PM
Assembled in USA does not necessarily mean the product was manufactured in the USA, it just means the last of the components were added by someone in the USA prior to it being given to the customer.

It could even mean that everything about the iMac was manufactured in another country, even the memory and hard drive, and that the iMac was shipped to the US without those components installed.

Someone in the US could have just taken the system, added memory and a hard drive from a bin of components that were also manufactured in another country, to complete the system.

But this doesn't mean that this is what they're doing, especially since the new iMacs have memory and storage fused to the board. It would be interesting to hear more about the new iMacs, they should labeling that comes with it listing any foreign origins of its parts.

hleewell
Dec 3, 2012, 02:58 PM
Robots!!!!

JHankwitz
Dec 3, 2012, 03:11 PM
Shouldn't it say "Assembled in the USA"?

I think not. Would you say "Assembled in the China", or "Assembled in the Mexico"?

marc11
Dec 3, 2012, 03:27 PM
I, for one, would not.

The less money I pay for thing X, the more I have for buying thing Y, or perhaps Y and Z.


Except if you support your own country with goods produced there, then more people have jobs. Those people and companies pay taxes and buy more local goods and services. Thus more companies are created to support that demand, housing prices increase and taxes decrease allowing more people to buy thier own homes and have more cash to buy other items; more jobs and businesses are created and everyone can enjoy a better life in your own country....or save a few dollars now...your choice, America is great like that.

Davejprince
Dec 3, 2012, 04:04 PM
Only the non-base models are assembled in the USA.

terraphantm
Dec 3, 2012, 04:10 PM
It's USA (Oosah), China.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm3TepXcD8A

:D

marc11
Dec 3, 2012, 05:14 PM
Dude I said if I was offered the option to support my own county to buy goods made in my country I would pay more for that. It's my county. Yes it's self centric I want to support my country and economy more then China as I am not Chinese. This is normal you are just looking for reasons to hate Americans. There may be many but my desire to support my own economy in the country I live in is not one of them. Sorry your point is a complete fail and so is your biased hate.

mrsir2009
Dec 3, 2012, 08:16 PM
I think not. Would you say "Assembled in the China", or "Assembled in the Mexico"?

No, that's because the names China and Mexico are single entities. USA stands for United States of America. So you'd say: Made in the United States of America. Not: Made in United States of America. The latter could refer to ANY United States of America, but the former refers specifically to THE United States of America, which is what the U.S is :)

PinoyAko
Dec 3, 2012, 08:55 PM
No, that's because the names China and Mexico are single entities. USA stands for United States of America. So you'd say: Made in the United States of America. Not: Made in United States of America. The latter could refer to ANY United States of America, but the former refers specifically to THE United States of America, which is what the U.S is :)

This is what in my mind as well.

Spizike9
Dec 4, 2012, 12:03 AM
Just looked at my mid 2011 iMac and it was assembled in the USA too! It was also a build to order.

PVisitors
Dec 4, 2012, 09:19 AM
Cool, I just checked my 2011 BTO iMac and it actually has assembled in Ireland etched into the aluminium.

dejo
Dec 4, 2012, 09:31 AM
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balamw
Dec 4, 2012, 10:56 AM
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Verbatim Cookie
Dec 4, 2012, 10:45 PM
No, that's because the names China and Mexico are single entities.
Actually, the formal name for Mexico (perhaps not for much longer) is Estados Unidos Mexicanos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico). If you're wondering, I have noticed the phrase HECHO EN MEXICO (not HECHO EN EUM or HECHO EN EU) and that the abbreviation for "United States" (of America) in the Latino press is EE. UU.

Psychj0e
Dec 5, 2012, 04:47 AM
It'd be interesting to see some quality control figures between the two countries of assembly.



The article made that quite clear. Glad you can confirm it though. :rolleyes:

subtle racist undertones, and a dig at another member. niice.

terraphantm
Dec 5, 2012, 06:25 AM
That's not true. Read this:
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus03-complying-made-usa-standard#Assembled%20in%20U.S.A.

Right, but how many of the components would actually be made in the US? Intel chips are made in Malaysia, and mostly every other kind of computer component is made in China or Taiwan. Maybe Apple builds the PCBs here, but I wonder if that is enough to claim its "Assembled in USA"


subtle racist undertones, and a dig at another member. niice.

Is it really racist to have an opinion based on real world trends?

pgiguere1
Dec 5, 2012, 10:20 AM
Right, but how many of the components would actually be made in the US? Intel chips are made in Malaysia, and mostly every other kind of computer component is made in China or Taiwan. Maybe Apple builds the PCBs here, but I wonder if that is enough to claim its "Assembled in USA"

It could also be the aluminium case, glass, and various internals like the cooling system and speakers. The fact that the new iMac is made with some new complicated manufacturing processes like the glass laminated to the screen and the chin being friction stir welded may also count as being a more substantial assembly than just screwing parts together.

184550
Dec 5, 2012, 10:25 AM
subtle racist undertones, and a dig at another member. niice.

Welcome to the party. You're only three days late. :rolleyes:

anutharoundu
Dec 6, 2012, 02:19 AM
Interesting move I hope this happens more.

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Nightarchaon
Dec 6, 2012, 05:39 AM
So the only thing that happens in the USA is that those build to order imacs get their custom picked ram/ssd placed in and the screen gets glued on.

im assuming this is what apple is using as "assembled in the USA", i would like to know exactly what they do

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That's not true. Read this:
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus03-complying-made-usa-standard#Assembled%20in%20U.S.A.

im assuming this is what apple is using as "assembled in the USA", i would like to know exactly what they do, and that they prove that they are not just dropping in a hard disk, ram and gluing the screen down .

Lesser Evets
Dec 6, 2012, 08:09 AM
Just like the good-old days.

I bet the next MacPros are made in the USA, if this is a purposeful trend.

diipii
Dec 6, 2012, 09:42 AM
Great news. Now if everyone, everywhere did this the recession would be over, we would all be so much happier and politicians could just ...well we know what they can do.