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MacRumors
Dec 3, 2012, 11:04 PM
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Chitika Insights has released a new six-month study (http://insights.chitika.com/2012/six-month-study-ios-vs-android/) that has found that iOS devices' mobile web share has grown 2% over the past two months while Android devices' mobile web share has decreased 2%. The data spans the six-month timeframe of May 27th, 2012 to November 27th, 2012 and includes devices like the Samsung Galaxy S III, the Kindle Fire HD, the Nexus 7, iPad mini, iPad fourth generation and iPhone 5.
http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/12/ios-vs-android-graph.png
According to the data, the share for iOS is at 67% while Android sits at 33%. Over the past six months, iOS has been hovering around 65% while Android hovered around 35%. The peak of Android's share was 40% in late August, which Chitika attributes to the strong sales of the Galaxy S III. That peak softened after the release of iPhone 5 and the new iOS tablets.

Chitika notes that Apple's significant advantage in tablet sales with the iPad and iPad mini is the biggest factor in the mobile web share dominance. Apple also has its' iPod Touch line contributing to its share, while Android's popularity and share is mostly due to smartphones.

The data is also suggesting that users don't switch between mobile operating systems, according to Chitika. They note that if their suggestion is true, Android manufacturers are competing with themselves while Apple is in no danger of a dwindling user base.

Article Link: Chitika: iOS Mobile Web Share Continues to Trump Android (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/04/chitika-ios-mobile-web-share-continues-to-trump-android/)



mrsir2009
Dec 3, 2012, 11:07 PM
Coz of all those moms with their $149 Android phones that they only use to make calls on ;)

Will do good
Dec 3, 2012, 11:17 PM
Coz of all those moms with their $149 Android phones that they only use to make calls on ;)

Couldn't agreed more :D

In the US, lot of them are free.

haruhiko
Dec 3, 2012, 11:17 PM
Coz of all those moms with their $149 Android phones that they only use to make calls on ;)

Other younger Android users probably spend most time playing free* games on their phones.

w00t951
Dec 3, 2012, 11:19 PM
For me, browsing with the larger screen and ad blocking capabilities of my Galaxy Nexus are superior to the experience available on my 4S (and I'd imagine the 5).

mrsir2009
Dec 3, 2012, 11:22 PM
Other younger Android users probably spend most time playing free* games on their phones.

Ah, yes, referring to the other thread...

coder12
Dec 3, 2012, 11:25 PM
Couldn't agreed more :D

In the US, lot of them are free.

It's too bad carriers make them look free. In the end, the only real difference you're paying after 2 years is what... about $100-$200? Looking at $3,000 for a "free" or $3,200 for a nice phone it become obvious that you're not saving much, but oh well. Capitalism ftw.

haruhiko
Dec 3, 2012, 11:26 PM
It's too bad carriers make them look free. In the end, the only real difference you're paying after 2 years is what... about $100-$200? Looking at $3,000 for a "free" or $3,200 for a nice phone it become obvious that you're not saving much, but oh well. Capitalism ftw.

iPhone 5 16GB is "free" in all Hong Kong carriers with a 24-month contract.

The problem is that Apple doesn't sell them through the online store nor the physical store until today, nearly 3 months after launch. The only possible way to get an iPhone is to sign a contract with your carrier and get the "free" phone.

iMikeT
Dec 3, 2012, 11:28 PM
I'm proud to be in the 67%. :D

TechieGeek
Dec 3, 2012, 11:51 PM
I feel like the heaviest Android users would be those who root, and the first thing you do when you root is you install an ad-blocker which blocks any connections to servers serving ads. This would block ads in the browser as well as in apps.

I'd like to see stats from Akamai or Google Ads to see how the data compares :)

Gubbz
Dec 4, 2012, 12:05 AM
I definitely fit into the last paragraph. I won't change, I've spent a fair bit in iTunes, music, video, apps. I use my iMac, iPhone and Apple TVs every day. iTunes is my digital hub with all my DVD Handbraked. Switching components of my setup to an incompatible system would be stupid and I certainly don't have the available cash to switch if they really started offering something 'magical' over Apple :S

rdlink
Dec 4, 2012, 12:12 AM
I definitely fit into the last paragraph. I won't change, I've spent a fair bit in iTunes, music, video, apps. I use my iMac, iPhone and Apple TVs every day. iTunes is my digital hub with all my DVD Handbraked. Switching components of my setup to an incompatible system would be stupid and I certainly don't have the available cash to switch if they really started offering something 'magical' over Apple :S

This is me.

SWPROX
Dec 4, 2012, 12:32 AM
I have an iPhone, a Mac and iPad mini,I love Apple,iOS and OSX.

But it is comments like this one which start unnecessary and useless flame wars,android is not 'ass' or something,it suits the purpose for million other who love it,not for me or you,similarly iPhone 5 is best for you and me and millions others,but similarly an S3 or Note2 is for millions others too.

One should respect others choices as well.

MH01
Dec 4, 2012, 12:51 AM
iOS needs a major change. If you consider it to be the best. You needs and expectations are very simple.

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I definitely fit into the last paragraph. I won't change, I've spent a fair bit in iTunes, music, video, apps. I use my iMac, iPhone and Apple TVs every day. iTunes is my digital hub with all my DVD Handbraked. Switching components of my setup to an incompatible system would be stupid and I certainly don't have the available cash to switch if they really started offering something 'magical' over Apple :S

Agreed. Though this is what they would love their customers to do, invest so heavily in one eco system so they have no choice. I am in the same boat, though bought a S3 to use alongside my 5 and frankly use the S3 more often. Also returned the mini due to the non retina screen, so times might be changing unless ios7 has some major changes. After using android for the last 2 months, ios is lacking innovation :(

firewood
Dec 4, 2012, 02:58 AM
If you consider it to be the best. You needs and expectations are very simple.

According to recent consumer satisfaction statistics, simple is how a lot of customers like it. Turns out those customers usually are currently also the most profitable for Apple, most app developers and even certain advertisers (those using Chitika).

Complex stuff turns into a mess faster than most people realize.

ArchAndroid
Dec 4, 2012, 04:02 AM
Let's look at some of the criteria which I find are essential to choosing a phone:
(Both-emboldened; Apple only- [ ]; Android-plain text)

Colour: Black, White, Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, et cetera.

Memory Size: 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB

Additional Memory: N/A, 16/32/64GB Card Slot

Battery: Removable, Non-Removable

Screen Size (inches): 3.5, 3.7, 4.0, 4.2, 4.3, 4.5, 4.8, 5.0, 5.5 and more

Screen Res.: [1136x640, 960x640], 800x480, 1280x720, 1920x1080 and more

Vendor: [Apple], Samsung, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Lenovo, Motorola, Asus, LG, Google et cetera

2012 Flagship Phones: [1], Several

2012 Mid-Range Phones: [0], Several

2012 Low-End Phones: [0], Several

Last Generation Phones: [2], n-2

If you don't like an Android phone or tablet, you can choose another one from that vendor's product range or change vendors and find a phone or tablet which is more suitable for you. Finally, if nothing suits you, you can consider changing operating systems

If you don't like a certain iPhone or iPad, you either have to wait a year or two for a future redesign or leave the operating system.

As for best, the best phone for me is the one which most easily helps the user to acheive their goal. For example, my grandma isn't going to notice the difference between an A6, a Snapdragon or an Exynos, but she can tell the difference between a 4" screen versus a 4.5" where the text can be enlarged and the buttons are that much more easily discernible.

iOS is one size fits all; Android has so much choice that your phone feels more tailor made.

According to recent consumer satisfaction statistics, simple is how a lot of customers like it.

Apple users are way more servile than their Android counterparts, because they have no choice; it's either Apple's way or the highway. Conversely, with Android, choice is abundant. If I don't like Google's way, perhaps I can try Samsung's way, LG's way or someone else's way.

mazz0
Dec 4, 2012, 04:51 AM
The graph says it's US traffic share, whereas the article by not stating that makes it sound like its global track share.

spazzcat
Dec 4, 2012, 05:21 AM
Let's look at some of the criteria which I find are essential to choosing a phone:
(Both-emboldened; Apple only- [ ]; Android-plain text)

Colour: Black, White, Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, et cetera.

Memory Size: 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB

Additional Memory: N/A, 16/32/64GB Card Slot

Battery: Removable, Non-Removable

Screen Size (inches): 3.5, 3.7, 4.0, 4.2, 4.3, 4.5, 4.8, 5.0, 5.5 and more

Screen Res.: [1136x640, 960x640], 800x480, 1280x720, 1920x1080 and more

Vendor: [Apple], Samsung, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Lenovo, Motorola, Asus, LG, Google et cetera

2012 Flagship Phones: [1], Several

2012 Mid-Range Phones: [0], Several

2012 Low-End Phones: [0], Several

Last Generation Phones: [2], n-2

If you don't like an Android phone or tablet, you can choose another one from that vendor's product range or change vendors and find a phone or tablet which is more suitable for you. Finally, if nothing suits you, you can consider changing operating systems

If you don't like a certain iPhone or iPad, you either have to wait a year or two for a future redesign or leave the operating system.

As for best, the best phone for me is the one which most easily helps the user to acheive their goal. For example, my grandma isn't going to notice the difference between an A6, a Snapdragon or an Exynos, but she can tell the difference between a 4" screen versus a 4.5" where the text can be enlarged and the buttons are that much more easily discernible.

iOS is one size fits all; Android has so much choice that your phone feels more tailor made.



Apple users are way more servile than their Android counterparts, because they have no choice; it's either Apple's way or the highway. Conversely, with Android, choice is abundant. If I don't like Google's way, perhaps I can try Samsung's way, LG's way or someone else's way.

And here we are talking about how iOS has 67% of web traffic. At the end of the day people want simple...

fr33 loader
Dec 4, 2012, 05:24 AM
I definitely fit into the last paragraph. I won't change, I've spent a fair bit in iTunes, music, video, apps. I use my iMac, iPhone and Apple TVs every day. iTunes is my digital hub with all my DVD Handbraked. Switching components of my setup to an incompatible system would be stupid and I certainly don't have the available cash to switch if they really started offering something 'magical' over Apple :S

I'm sorry for you. You're neck deep invested to one company. That's why usually I stay/use format/software that are platform agnostic. I've stopped buying songs/movies/books on iTunes long time ago.

hamkor04
Dec 4, 2012, 05:41 AM
How android web usage can decrees, they selling more than ever. There is no decrees web usage ios nor Android. If they say RIM its believable. Even windows increasing (i know slow but it is increasing)

Zunjine
Dec 4, 2012, 06:31 AM
I feel like the heaviest Android users would be those who root, and the first thing you do when you root is you install an ad-blocker which blocks any connections to servers serving ads. This would block ads in the browser as well as in apps.

I'd like to see stats from Akamai or Google Ads to see how the data compares :)

Even if it's true that the heaviest Android users tend to root and block, they will account for a tiny fraction of the overall user base and would make an almost imperceptible difference to these figures. Less than a percentage point.

In all these cases you have to remember that the outliers are outliers. Aggregated stats like this aren't about those few users who don't fit the general pattern.

Zunjine
Dec 4, 2012, 07:00 AM
Let's look at some of the criteria which I find are essential to choosing a phone:
(Both-emboldened; Apple only- [ ]; Android-plain text)

Colour: Black, White, Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, et cetera.

Memory Size: 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB

Additional Memory: N/A, 16/32/64GB Card Slot

Battery: Removable, Non-Removable

Screen Size (inches): 3.5, 3.7, 4.0, 4.2, 4.3, 4.5, 4.8, 5.0, 5.5 and more

Screen Res.: [1136x640, 960x640], 800x480, 1280x720, 1920x1080 and more

Vendor: [Apple], Samsung, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Lenovo, Motorola, Asus, LG, Google et cetera

2012 Flagship Phones: [1], Several

2012 Mid-Range Phones: [0], Several

2012 Low-End Phones: [0], Several

Last Generation Phones: [2], n-2

If you don't like an Android phone or tablet, you can choose another one from that vendor's product range or change vendors and find a phone or tablet which is more suitable for you. Finally, if nothing suits you, you can consider changing operating systems

If you don't like a certain iPhone or iPad, you either have to wait a year or two for a future redesign or leave the operating system.

As for best, the best phone for me is the one which most easily helps the user to acheive their goal. For example, my grandma isn't going to notice the difference between an A6, a Snapdragon or an Exynos, but she can tell the difference between a 4" screen versus a 4.5" where the text can be enlarged and the buttons are that much more easily discernible.

iOS is one size fits all; Android has so much choice that your phone feels more tailor made.



Apple users are way more servile than their Android counterparts, because they have no choice; it's either Apple's way or the highway. Conversely, with Android, choice is abundant. If I don't like Google's way, perhaps I can try Samsung's way, LG's way or someone else's way.


Ah, the old mantra of choice.

People want choice, to a degree' and to an extent it does make them happy. But more choice and a greater sense of satisfaction - better user experience - are not linked in nearly so linear a way as you think. The graph you'd see if you plotted choice against satisfaction would be a sharp, upwards curve for a short distance (going from no choices to a few choices makes people happier) followed by a flattening (When people have enough choice, more choice doesn't help them much) and then a big drop off (people faced with too many choices are constantly confused and overwhelmed and feel that any choice they make is likely to be wrong).

You should Google the Paradox of Choice. There's plenty of good science on this topic. The main point is that being able to choose precisely what you want (a la Android) actually leads to lower satisfaction whereas having fewer options and simpler choices (a la iOS) leads to greater satisfaction.

And the customer feedback supports this too - it's not just theory. Apple's customer satisfaction scores are higher than anyone else in any sector they compete in. If you were right about choice and a feeling that a product was "tailor made" then surely Android users would be happier - they aren't.

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How android web usage can decrees, they selling more than ever. There is no decrees web usage ios nor Android. If they say RIM its believable. Even windows increasing (i know slow but it is increasing)

These figures are a percentage of the total, not absolute usage. There is far more web usage coming from Android devices today than in prior years, but as a percentage it's staying fairly steady compared to iOS.

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I'm sorry for you. You're neck deep invested to one company. That's why usually I stay/use format/software that are platform agnostic. I've stopped buying songs/movies/books on iTunes long time ago.

Songs, movies and books from iTunes work on non-Apple devices. Only Apps are iOS exclusive. I can play an album, watch a movie and read a book bought from Apple on Windows PCs, various PMPs, Android devices and other e-readers.

M-O
Dec 4, 2012, 07:22 AM
For me, browsing with the larger screen and ad blocking capabilities of my Galaxy Nexus are superior to the experience available on my 4S (and I'd imagine the 5).

i prefer flipboard.

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I feel like the heaviest Android users would be those who root, and the first thing you do when you root is you install an ad-blocker which blocks any connections to servers serving ads. This would block ads in the browser as well as in apps.

I'd like to see stats from Akamai or Google Ads to see how the data compares :)

i feel like rooted devices make up about 1-5% of the android market share. certainly not enough to double the web share to match iOS.

if a significant percentage of android devices ran ad-blocking software, google would a serious problem on it's hands.

M-O
Dec 4, 2012, 07:33 AM
I'm sorry for you. You're neck deep invested to one company. That's why usually I stay/use format/software that are platform agnostic. I've stopped buying songs/movies/books on iTunes long time ago.

just because we use Apple products doesn't mean we have to buy content from iTunes. sure it's easier, and with iCloud/iTunes match it's certainly more enticing and beneficial, but nothing prevents us from buying from Amazon, Google, or anyone else.

Heck, we don't even have to use OS X just because we use a Mac.

blackcrayon
Dec 4, 2012, 07:49 AM
I feel like the heaviest Android users would be those who root, and the first thing you do when you root is you install an ad-blocker which blocks any connections to servers serving ads. This would block ads in the browser as well as in apps.

I'd like to see stats from Akamai or Google Ads to see how the data compares :)

Well gee, I picked up a first gen iPad really cheap, jailbroke it, and put an ad blocking host file in it. Does that mean it evens out? (You're talking about a negligible percentage of people that would do this kind of thing).

davidwarren
Dec 4, 2012, 09:00 AM
I can't wait until people stop associating their identity with the operating system their cell phone uses.

jayducharme
Dec 4, 2012, 09:04 AM
People want choice, to a degree' and to an extent it does make them happy. But more choice and a greater sense of satisfaction - better user experience - are not linked in nearly so linear a way as you think.

I agree with this. I have hundreds of iDevice apps, with over 100 installed on my iPhone. How many of them do I use on a daily basis? Probably a handful at most. Why do I have so many other apps? Maybe it's for the illusion of choice. I think, "If I ever wanted to, I could use these other apps." But in truth, I rarely have the time nor inclination to use most of them. Maybe I just like hearing people say, "Wow! You have a lot of apps!" when they look at my iPhone.

So even though I have an enormous amount of choice, I rarely exercise that choice. Even so, it's a problem if I perceive I don't have enough choice. Then I feel trapped.

I guess for some people, the perception of Android's quantity of choices outweighs Apple's offerings.

tbrinkma
Dec 4, 2012, 09:10 AM
If android is ass, what's that make iOS?

Well, according to the post you *quoted*, "iOS is better". In fact, it says that right after the "android is ass" bit. Not claiming the guy you quoted was right one way or another, but you should at least read what he's saying if you're going to comment on it. :p

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Well gee, I picked up a first gen iPad really cheap, jailbroke it, and put an ad blocking host file in it. Does that mean it evens out? (You're talking about a negligible percentage of people that would do this kind of thing).

Exactly. The rooting/jailbreaking community for *either* OS is a negligibly small percentage of the overall user base. For it to have an impact on the overall numbers, the iOS jailbreakers would have to never use the web, and the Android rooters would have to browse the web 24/7 356.25.

somethingelsefl
Dec 4, 2012, 09:19 AM
This usage statistic is the main stat that all of my developer friends consistently talk about when asked why they develop primarily for iOS over Android.

It doesn't matter if you have the fastest, shiniest, biggest, or cheapest smartphone...what matters most is: Are people using it?

For the the iPhone (and most Apple products) this has always been the case. That's where Apple's true innovation is: getting people to actually use their technology.

akbarali.ch
Dec 4, 2012, 09:20 AM
I have an iPhone, a Mac and iPad mini,I love Apple,iOS and OSX.

But it is comments like this one which start unnecessary and useless flame wars,android is not 'ass' or something,it suits the purpose for million other who love it,not for me or you,similarly iPhone 5 is best for you and me and millions others,but similarly an S3 or Note2 is for millions others too.

One should respect others choices as well.

well said, This is what i say to others guys, you bought what you felt was right, i feel iPhones are better than Android but the same thing an Android user tells me. One should use & enjoy their devices.

KdParker
Dec 4, 2012, 10:02 AM
Let's look at some of the criteria which I find are essential to choosing a phone:
(Both-emboldened; Apple only- [ ]; Android-plain text)

Colour: Black, White, Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, et cetera.

Memory Size: 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB

Additional Memory: N/A, 16/32/64GB Card Slot

Battery: Removable, Non-Removable

Screen Size (inches): 3.5, 3.7, 4.0, 4.2, 4.3, 4.5, 4.8, 5.0, 5.5 and more

Screen Res.: [1136x640, 960x640], 800x480, 1280x720, 1920x1080 and more

Vendor: [Apple], Samsung, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Lenovo, Motorola, Asus, LG, Google et cetera

2012 Flagship Phones: [1], Several

2012 Mid-Range Phones: [0], Several

2012 Low-End Phones: [0], Several

Last Generation Phones: [2], n-2

If you don't like an Android phone or tablet, you can choose another one from that vendor's product range or change vendors and find a phone or tablet which is more suitable for you. Finally, if nothing suits you, you can consider changing operating systems

If you don't like a certain iPhone or iPad, you either have to wait a year or two for a future redesign or leave the operating system.

As for best, the best phone for me is the one which most easily helps the user to acheive their goal. For example, my grandma isn't going to notice the difference between an A6, a Snapdragon or an Exynos, but she can tell the difference between a 4" screen versus a 4.5" where the text can be enlarged and the buttons are that much more easily discernible.

iOS is one size fits all; Android has so much choice that your phone feels more tailor made.



Apple users are way more servile than their Android counterparts, because they have no choice; it's either Apple's way or the highway. Conversely, with Android, choice is abundant. If I don't like Google's way, perhaps I can try Samsung's way, LG's way or someone else's way.

This conversation is starting to get very boring. The fandroids are dug in and IOS supporters have thier positions locked in to.

I have an iPhone now, and will see what is out their in when the 5s or 6 rollout and make a decision on my next phone.

But what has kept me android phones is that once I buy that phone, I am stuck with whatever version of android that is on my phone. So when the new and improved version was released, I couldn't upgrade.

I just can't see jumping in with android until I can be sure that has been corrected, since nobody has the perfect OS that will never be upgraded in the future.

Also, I like what MS is doing wp8.

Hopefully I will have 3 OS's to choose from with great phones attached to each when the next upgrade comes around.

supmango
Dec 4, 2012, 10:30 AM
People don't want to pay for apps they already paid for on another platform. It's as simple as that.

Technarchy
Dec 4, 2012, 10:33 AM
The surfing experience on your typical food stamp android device is horrible. Not surprising many choose to not bother

Also: http://www.thestreet.mobi/story/11586384/1/android-users-dont-know-enough-to-matter.html

ChazUK
Dec 4, 2012, 10:33 AM
This conversation is starting to get very boring. The fandroids are dug in and IOS supporters have thier positions locked in to.

I have an iPhone now, and will see what is out their in when the 5s or 6 rollout and make a decision on my next phone.

But what has kept me android phones is that once I buy that phone, I am stuck with whatever version of android that is on my phone. So when the new and improved version was released, I couldn't upgrade.

I just can't see jumping in with android until I can be sure that has been corrected, since nobody has the perfect OS that will never be upgraded in the future.

Also, I like what MS is doing wp8.

Hopefully I will have 3 OS's to choose from with great phones attached to each when the next upgrade comes around.
http://www.google.com/nexus/

Hasn't let me down yet*.

Nexus One - Android 2.1 to 2.3
Nexus S - Android 2.3 to Android 4.1
Galaxy Nexus - Android 4.0 to Android 4.2
Nexus 4 - Android 4.2 to ??? :D

*CDMA handsets are carrier infested garbage though. Avoid.

KdParker
Dec 4, 2012, 10:53 AM
http://www.google.com/nexus/

Hasn't let me down yet*.

Nexus One - Android 2.1 to 2.3
Nexus S - Android 2.3 to Android 4.1
Galaxy Nexus - Android 4.0 to Android 4.2
Nexus 4 - Android 4.2 to ??? :D

*CDMA handsets are carrier infested garbage though. Avoid.

Exactly...how many phones is that over how many years. What if i don't want a nexus?

And Verizon (CDMA phones) is my carrier, hence I don't have the upgrade issue with IOS. Again, I am hoping that this will get straightened out soon enough and I will have a real choice when I am ready for an upgrade.

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I can't wait until people stop associating their identity with the operating system their cell phone uses.

When there is more that 2 or 3 options then people will.

fr33 loader
Dec 4, 2012, 10:58 AM
just because we use Apple products doesn't mean we have to buy content from iTunes. sure it's easier, and with iCloud/iTunes match it's certainly more enticing and beneficial, but nothing prevents us from buying from Amazon, Google, or anyone else.

Heck, we don't even have to use OS X just because we use a Mac.

Exactly, I usually get my stuff on amazon and put them in iTunes if I need it on my iOS products but don't buy it from iTunes.

ChazUK
Dec 4, 2012, 11:06 AM
Exactly...how many phones is that over how many years. What if i don't want a nexus?

And Verizon (CDMA phones) is my carrier, hence I don't have the upgrade issue with IOS. Again, I am hoping that this will get straightened out soon enough and I will have a real choice when I am ready for an upgrade.

4 phones over 4 years, two of which are still currently supported (Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4). The only phone that was cut relatively short was the Nexus One which had appallingly low ROM storage, it made it hard to go beyond Android 2.3 officially. Developers managed to port Android 4.0 to the Nexus One but with some dirty hacks.

I very much doubt that Android ever will be a viable option for you in that case because CDMA has been a pain to support in the AOSP and Nexus phones in general are fully supported by the Android Open Source Project.

On that topic, hereís a quick clarification on the core issue. Every device has a number of closed-source software packages included on it. Though Google distributes some of these binaries for Nexus devices for use with AOSP, Google does not own the software. Rather, this software is variously owned by the device manufacturer, the carrier, and their suppliers. We try to get distribution rights for as many of these binaries as possible, but in some cases it is difficult or impossible to obtain these rights. (CDMA specifically has a tricky history of intellectual property.) Combined with the technical issues of needing to sign the apks correctly, this has prevented us from obtaining the distribution rights we need to support these devices in AOSP.
source. (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!msg/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU/tb2R8nf_tPAJ)

I think Google's recent push for GSM only devices has been caused by the difficulty with their CDMA support and Sprint and Verizon's insistence on interfering with the CDMA hardware (NS4G had Sprint bloatware alongside the VZ GalaxyNexus).

If you don't want a Nexus, you don't want a Nexus, it's as simple as that really. ;) It's looking like the iPhone is the only platform that will suit your requirements as even Windows Phone (http://wmpoweruser.com/att-not-planning-to-offer-the-8107-keyboard-fix-update-to-current-windows-phones/) isn't immune to carriers holding back software updates.

fr33 loader
Dec 4, 2012, 11:07 AM
Songs, movies and books from iTunes work on non-Apple devices. Only Apps are iOS exclusive. I can play an album, watch a movie and read a book bought from Apple on Windows PCs, various PMPs, Android devices and other e-readers.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong or how you're doing it but I can't watch movies and listen to songs I bought in iTunes in my Android device but would play on my iPhone and iPad.

KdParker
Dec 4, 2012, 11:14 AM
4 phones over 4 years, two of which are still currently supported (Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4). The only phone that was cut relatively short was the Nexus One which had appallingly low ROM storage, it made it hard to go beyond Android 2.3 officially. Developers managed to port Android 4.0 to the Nexus One but with some dirty hacks.

I very much doubt that Android ever will be a viable option for you in that case because CDMA has been a pain to support in the AOSP and Nexus phones in general are fully supported by the Android Open Source Project.


source. (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!msg/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU/tb2R8nf_tPAJ)

I think Google's recent push for GSM only devices has been caused by the difficulty with their CDMA support and Sprint and Verizon's insistence on interfering with the CDMA hardware (NS4G had Sprint bloatware alongside the VZ GalaxyNexus).

If you don't want a Nexus, you don't want a Nexus, it's as simple as that really. ;) It's looking like the iPhone is the only platform that will suit your requirements as even Windows Phone (http://wmpoweruser.com/att-not-planning-to-offer-the-8107-keyboard-fix-update-to-current-windows-phones/) isn't immune to carriers holding back software updates.

I am hoping that will change. Will see what the next couple of years will bring.

Karma*Police
Dec 4, 2012, 11:35 AM
Let's look at some of the criteria which I find are essential to choosing a phone:
(Both-emboldened; Apple only- [ ]; Android-plain text)

Colour: Black, White, Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, et cetera.

Memory Size: 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB

Additional Memory: N/A, 16/32/64GB Card Slot

Battery: Removable, Non-Removable

Screen Size (inches): 3.5, 3.7, 4.0, 4.2, 4.3, 4.5, 4.8, 5.0, 5.5 and more

Screen Res.: [1136x640, 960x640], 800x480, 1280x720, 1920x1080 and more

Vendor: [Apple], Samsung, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Lenovo, Motorola, Asus, LG, Google et cetera

2012 Flagship Phones: [1], Several

2012 Mid-Range Phones: [0], Several

2012 Low-End Phones: [0], Several

Last Generation Phones: [2], n-2

If you don't like an Android phone or tablet, you can choose another one from that vendor's product range or change vendors and find a phone or tablet which is more suitable for you. Finally, if nothing suits you, you can consider changing operating systems

If you don't like a certain iPhone or iPad, you either have to wait a year or two for a future redesign or leave the operating system.

As for best, the best phone for me is the one which most easily helps the user to acheive their goal. For example, my grandma isn't going to notice the difference between an A6, a Snapdragon or an Exynos, but she can tell the difference between a 4" screen versus a 4.5" where the text can be enlarged and the buttons are that much more easily discernible.

iOS is one size fits all; Android has so much choice that your phone feels more tailor made.



Apple users are way more servile than their Android counterparts, because they have no choice; it's either Apple's way or the highway. Conversely, with Android, choice is abundant. If I don't like Google's way, perhaps I can try Samsung's way, LG's way or someone else's way.

Choice is grossly overrated, especially when most of your choices aren't very good. If you wanted the performance of say, a GS3 in a more compact form factor, what options do you have?

I'd agree that going Apple means fewer options, but it also means you're generally getting best of breed. And for most folks, the minor differences amongst the handful of models available for Android (when you take out the hundreds of crappy products) won't make a meaningful difference. And oftentimes, having too much choice is actually a bad thing and not something most people want. That's why Samsung is dominating the Android landscape; people have consciously eliminated the myriad of choices and have gravitated to a brand they think they can trust, and right now, Samsung is the hot vendor for Android.

Lastly, every customer satisfaction survey I've seen shows people are happier with Apple phones proving once again that choice isn't important so long as the product works well and better than the other options available.

swagi
Dec 4, 2012, 11:38 AM
The surfing experience on your typical food stamp android device is horrible. Not surprising many choose to not bother

Also: http://www.thestreet.mobi/story/11586384/1/android-users-dont-know-enough-to-matter.html

I couldn't think of a nicer surfing experience than using Dolphin HD on my SG3. Gestures are pretty intuitive, AddOns are great (which btw. makes ad-blocking as easy as cake - and which most of the Android Users will install just because they can do it and they know it - and this in effect makes this whole article bogus).

Nevertheless Chrome is also pretty solid, Opera is great on Android - only Firefox lacks behind. Opera and Firefoy also offer Adblock without rooting your device.

I am just astounded how a lot of people with actually now experience on Android use their prejudices to talk out of their backs.

And actually the bigger screen makes a lot of sense with web browsing.

nagromme
Dec 4, 2012, 11:46 AM
I demand CHOICE.

Android, therefore, is unacceptable. The selection of quality apps is truly poor compared to iOS. I won’t give up choice of what I can ACTUALLY do, for the sake of “choice” as an abstract principle... it’s not like an Android user can make the “choice” to exchange one brand of phone for another without paying for the privilege, if their first choice doesn’t suit them.

The freedom Google offers is mainly to carriers... and they are not my friend.

(It’s kind of like people are saying, “there are more crappy cars than great ones, so if you decide to go with a crappy car you’ll have more choice!” — true, but choice isn’t a goal, it’s a means to an end: the best experience.)

hchung
Dec 4, 2012, 12:25 PM
http://www.google.com/nexus/

Hasn't let me down yet*.

Nexus One - Android 2.1 to 2.3
Nexus S - Android 2.3 to Android 4.1
Galaxy Nexus - Android 4.0 to Android 4.2
Nexus 4 - Android 4.2 to ??? :D

*CDMA handsets are carrier infested garbage though. Avoid.

Yeah, too bad Google decided to not support Google Wallet on all NFC-capable Nexus devices. (yes, I'm still pissed off.)

SockRolid
Dec 4, 2012, 12:28 PM
... Android manufacturers are competing with themselves ...

In other words, "Samsung is beating all other Android manufacturers into the dirt."

winston1236
Dec 4, 2012, 12:38 PM
Coz of all those moms with their $149 Android phones that they only use to make calls on ;)

More likely its all of the $1 dollar 3gs iphones in use

iRCL
Dec 4, 2012, 12:41 PM
Let's look at some of the criteria which I find are essential to choosing a phone:
(Both-emboldened; Apple only- [ ]; Android-plain text)

Colour: Black, White, Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, et cetera.

Memory Size: 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB

Additional Memory: N/A, 16/32/64GB Card Slot

Battery: Removable, Non-Removable

Screen Size (inches): 3.5, 3.7, 4.0, 4.2, 4.3, 4.5, 4.8, 5.0, 5.5 and more

Screen Res.: [1136x640, 960x640], 800x480, 1280x720, 1920x1080 and more

Vendor: [Apple], Samsung, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Lenovo, Motorola, Asus, LG, Google et cetera

2012 Flagship Phones: [1], Several

2012 Mid-Range Phones: [0], Several

2012 Low-End Phones: [0], Several

Last Generation Phones: [2], n-2

If you don't like an Android phone or tablet, you can choose another one from that vendor's product range or change vendors and find a phone or tablet which is more suitable for you. Finally, if nothing suits you, you can consider changing operating systems

If you don't like a certain iPhone or iPad, you either have to wait a year or two for a future redesign or leave the operating system.

As for best, the best phone for me is the one which most easily helps the user to acheive their goal. For example, my grandma isn't going to notice the difference between an A6, a Snapdragon or an Exynos, but she can tell the difference between a 4" screen versus a 4.5" where the text can be enlarged and the buttons are that much more easily discernible.

iOS is one size fits all; Android has so much choice that your phone feels more tailor made.



Apple users are way more servile than their Android counterparts, because they have no choice; it's either Apple's way or the highway. Conversely, with Android, choice is abundant. If I don't like Google's way, perhaps I can try Samsung's way, LG's way or someone else's way.

Get real, who the hell cares about all the stuff you mention here. If you are still talking about a removable battery in today's world then you must be like 50 years old and completely out of touch, or live in the middle of nowhere and completely out of touch with the modern world

Zunjine
Dec 4, 2012, 01:07 PM
I don't know what I'm doing wrong or how you're doing it but I can't watch movies and listen to songs I bought in iTunes in my Android device but would play on my iPhone and iPad.

All I know is they aren't DRM - the songs at least. You may need to change the file type.

ArchAndroid
Dec 4, 2012, 01:16 PM
Get real, who the hell cares about all the stuff you mention here. If you are still talking about a removable battery in today's world then you must be like 50 years old and completely out of touch, or live in the middle of nowhere and completely out of touch with the modern world

50 years old? If I use a push a phone all day and it runs out of battery while I'm staying at someone else's, according to you, it's an inconvenience to be able to throw in a new one and get another day of usage?

:confused:

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(Itís kind of like people are saying, ďthere are more crappy cars than great ones, so if you decide to go with a crappy car youíll have more choice!Ē ó true, but choice isnít a goal, itís a means to an end: the best experience.)

Actually, it would be like saying 'Perhaps my mum doesn't need that Mercedes E-Class to do her once weekly shopping'.

If choice isn't a goal, then why does Apple sell the Air, Pro and iMac in two different sizes? Why does Apple sell any Core i5 when the Core i7 is a better processor? If you need the extra power or you need the extra size, it is available at a premium. This is choice. The best experience is the one which most acquiesces to the user's needs.

Fozzard
Dec 4, 2012, 02:41 PM
Folks,

Too many of these threads veer off into OS-religious wars that don't solve anything! What's interesting about this Chitika study is the rate at which the two OS's are used on the web. This is relevant to web developers (and app developers, though not as directly).

I develop web applications and analyze web usage stats for a part of NOAA (look it up), and see almost identical web shares Chitika sees. Here's an example from November 2012 on our web sites, which see about 15 million hits/month (desktop + mobile):

#: #reqs: %reqs: #pages: browser
--: -----: ------: ------: -------
1: 98334: 34.07%: 13160: iPad
2: 91489: 31.70%: 12482: iPhone
3: 71072: 24.63%: 11776: Android
4: 12983: 4.50%: 1515: Opera Mini
5: 5125: 1.78%: 712: BlackBerry
6: 3902: 1.35%: 471: Symbian
7: 2660: 0.92%: 315: Kindle Silk
8: 1776: 0.62%: 207: Windows Phone

Because we have few web pages optimized for mobile (I'm lobbying for more!), we only get about 2% of our hits from mobile, but you see the same distribution of web share that Chitika shows: iOS (iPad+iPhone) at 66%, Android 25%, and all others are down in the noise.

Since there are so many more Android devices out there, it's clear that iOS users are much more active users.

As to why this is, our web logs have no information. Draw your own conclusions!

--Rich

efktd
Dec 4, 2012, 03:13 PM
Well, according to the post you *quoted*, "iOS is better". In fact, it says that right after the "android is ass" bit. Not claiming the guy you quoted was right one way or another, but you should at least read what he's saying if you're going to comment on it. :p

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Exactly. The rooting/jailbreaking community for *either* OS is a negligibly small percentage of the overall user base. For it to have an impact on the overall numbers, the iOS jailbreakers would have to never use the web, and the Android rooters would have to browse the web 24/7 356.25.

Well I'm just wondering what's better than ass. I did read where the poster said iOS was better, however I'm just looking for a sort of clarification.

rdlink
Dec 5, 2012, 08:26 AM
Apple users are way more servile than their Android counterparts, because they have no choice; it's either Apple's way or the highway. Conversely, with Android, choice is abundant. If I don't like Google's way, perhaps I can try Samsung's way, LG's way or someone else's way.

Sounds like Windows vs. Mac from the 80s all over again. And we see where that got us. Fragmented hardware. Kludgy, unstable software. Sounds like Android to me (I've owned 6). Poor user experience shoved down our throats for 20+ years by a dominant company that didn't get (or care) what it takes to provide an easy to use, seamless, low maintenance experience for the user.

I think (hope?) the difference now is that, unlike the 80s, the geeks aren't the only ones buying the tech and making corporate IT decisions, and "normal" people rule the day. The stat in this article gives me hope for the future, because it may just illustrate what I think to be the truth: Most people who buy android only do it because it appears to be cheap, but they never really use their smartphones as smartphones. Which, if true means that Google's business model on Android will fail. And that's a good thing.

marksman
Dec 5, 2012, 09:35 AM
I feel like the heaviest Android users would be those who root, and the first thing you do when you root is you install an ad-blocker which blocks any connections to servers serving ads. This would block ads in the browser as well as in apps.

I'd like to see stats from Akamai or Google Ads to see how the data compares :)

Thinking that a significant portion of android phone users do what you claim is just in error. Not hsppening

tbrinkma
Dec 6, 2012, 11:16 AM
Actually, it would be like saying 'Perhaps my mum doesn't need that Mercedes E-Class to do her once weekly shopping'.

If choice isn't a goal, then why does Apple sell the Air, Pro and iMac in two different sizes? Why does Apple sell any Core i5 when the Core i7 is a better processor? If you need the extra power or you need the extra size, it is available at a premium. This is choice. The best experience is the one which most acquiesces to the user's needs.

Choice *isn't* the goal. The goal is to sell product.

Dell offers hundreds (if not thousands) of choices in order to cover as much of their potential market as possible. Apple offers a small range of choices that they believe cover their target market sufficiently well. Both of these are rational options, and both of them have side-effects which are attractive or unattractive to certain prospective buyers.

Offering a range of choices is one of the *methods* used to increase the number of people willing to buy the products. The 'paradox of choice' (a well-studied phenomenon) shows that when too many choices are available, people take longer to make their choice and are less happy with the choice they've made afterwards.