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MacRumors
Dec 6, 2012, 02:53 PM
http://images.macrumors.com/im/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/06/snapseed-adds-new-filters-goes-free/)


http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/12/snapseed-150x142.jpg (http://www.front.macrumors.com/2012/12/06/snapseed-adds-new-filters-goes-free/snapseed/)After being named the 2011 App of the Year, popular iOS photo editing app Snapseed was acquired by Google (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/17/google-buys-developer-of-snapseed-apples-2011-ipad-app-of-the-year/) when the company purchased Nik Software.

Google today dropped the price of Snapseed (http://appshopper.com/photography/snapseed-for-ipad), making the app free to download. Previously, the iOS version of Snapseed cost $4.99. The update also brings new filters, Google+ integration, and a new icon. From the App Store description:
New Retrolux filter! Use one of the newly created film styles, combined with a range of different scratches and textures as well as light leaks to create a truly retro look for your photos.

Updated Frames filter! Now includes a wide range of new, high quality photographic frames. Colorize the frame edges to match the look of your image or switch to square mode with a single tap.Aside from the filters, the free version of Snapseed appears to be the same as the previous paid version, but there is a new splash page which refers to the app as "Google+ Snapseed."

The iOS version of Snapseed (http://appshopper.com/photography/snapseed-for-ipad) [App Store (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id439438619?mt=8)] is currently available in the App Store at no cost. The Mac version of the app (http://appshopper.com/mac/photography/snapseed) [Mac App Store (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id490118981?mt=12)] has yet to be updated and is still a $19.99 download in the Mac App Store. Google also released an Android version of the app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.niksoftware.snapseed), which is available for free in the Google Play store.

Article Link: Snapseed Adds New Filters, Goes Free (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/06/snapseed-adds-new-filters-goes-free/)



jmthigpen
Dec 6, 2012, 02:56 PM
awesome, love that it's free now!

Razeus
Dec 6, 2012, 03:18 PM
I hope the Mac app store version goes free too. I paid $4.99 for the iOS long ago. :mad:

Usehername
Dec 6, 2012, 03:46 PM
Hmmm...does that mean there's ads now? I ain't update if so.

musser
Dec 6, 2012, 03:58 PM
I guarantee you... if it's from Google, it ain't free. Oh, you may not have to pay upfront for it, but you'll pay... SOMEthing...SOME way, eventually. I'm sure it's yet another scheme by Google to get your personal information. I'm staying clear of it like I do now from all things Google.

sir1963nz
Dec 6, 2012, 04:06 PM
I hope the Mac app store version goes free too. I paid $4.99 for the iOS long ago. :mad:

$4.99 seems cheap to have Google NOT snoop on everything you do, NOT to feed you adverts, NOT to "accidentally" bypass your security/do not track settings and have then say sorry later for it.

Google has become untrustworthy in my books, their motto should be changed to "Don't be caught being evil"

iWe
Dec 6, 2012, 04:11 PM
I guarantee you... if it's from Google, it ain't free. Oh, you may not have to pay upfront for it, but you'll pay... SOMEthing...SOME way, eventually. I'm sure it's yet another scheme by Google to get your personal information. I'm staying clear of it like I do now from all things Google.
Same here.

Erwin-Br
Dec 6, 2012, 04:14 PM
NOT to "accidentally" bypass your security/do not track settings and have then say sorry later for it.

Bypass what security? The people who's network got accessed by Google didn't have their WPA security on and left the door wide open. Not saying that's an excuse, but I'm wondering why you're making things sound worse than they are.

And please tell me which company doesn't track their users. Apple serves ads too.

The Phazer
Dec 6, 2012, 04:21 PM
Snapseed is a really good app, so this is good news.

I hope they don't keep that ugly new icon though.

Sardonick007
Dec 6, 2012, 04:54 PM
I really like this app. Glad it's free. I really like the G+ direct integration for uploading edited shots. It's fast, and the filters are nice and responsive. Not bad. Google or not, it's a nice app.

qtx43
Dec 6, 2012, 05:15 PM
Bypass what security? The people who's network got accessed by Google didn't have their WPA security on and left the door wide open. Not saying that's an excuse, but I'm wondering why you're making things sound worse than they are.

And please tell me which company doesn't track their users. Apple serves ads too.What about Google's javascript malware which circumvented Safari's "do not track" option. They wanted official blessing from Apple via their maps app, but didn't get it. If they behave true to form, they'll be doing everything they can to circumvent iOS's security restrictions too.

gotluck
Dec 6, 2012, 05:22 PM
I guarantee you... if it's from Google, it ain't free. Oh, you may not have to pay upfront for it, but you'll pay... SOMEthing...SOME way, eventually. I'm sure it's yet another scheme by Google to get your personal information. I'm staying clear of it like I do now from all things Google.

it's okay, google is watching you post on macrumors right now :D

ViperDesign
Dec 6, 2012, 06:39 PM
I guarantee you... if it's from Google, it ain't free. Oh, you may not have to pay upfront for it, but you'll pay... SOMEthing...SOME way, eventually. I'm sure it's yet another scheme by Google to get your personal information. I'm staying clear of it like I do now from all things Google.


If you are that worried you might as well just get off the internet right now. Cut the cord and play outside, oh yeah, can't do that either because someone is watching you there as well.

Your phones are tapped, your computer is tapped, your entire life is tapped.

Welcome to the new world. And if you don't think every single communication is being watched, you haven't seen the HUGE facility the NSA is building here in Utah to do so even better than before

glintoz
Dec 6, 2012, 06:39 PM
$4.99 seems cheap to have Google NOT snoop on everything you do, NOT to feed you adverts, NOT to "accidentally" bypass your security/do not track settings and have then say sorry later for it.

Google has become untrustworthy in my books, their motto should be changed to "Don't be caught being evil"

Nothing from large corporates is ever free. I ain't giving them anything (well knowingly or willingly anyway).

I equate Google to Skynet from Terminator 2... as long as it never goes sentient we are fine......

DesterWallaboo
Dec 6, 2012, 06:56 PM
I guarantee you... if it's from Google, it ain't free. Oh, you may not have to pay upfront for it, but you'll pay... SOMEthing...SOME way, eventually. I'm sure it's yet another scheme by Google to get your personal information. I'm staying clear of it like I do now from all things Google.

I agree with everything you said here.

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If you are that worried you might as well just get off the internet right now. Cut the cord and play outside, oh yeah, can't do that either because someone is watching you there as well.

Your phones are tapped, your computer is tapped, your entire life is tapped.

Welcome to the new world. And if you don't think every single communication is being watched, you haven't seen the HUGE facility the NSA is building here in Utah to do so even better than before

It's called 'reducing your exposure'.... I won't willingly give them access to my information in exchange for some nifty app.

ThunderSkunk
Dec 6, 2012, 07:02 PM
I love google.

Keep your money
Pay with your SOUL
FOR EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND...

DesterWallaboo
Dec 6, 2012, 07:06 PM
Bypass what security? The people who's network got accessed by Google didn't have their WPA security on and left the door wide open. Not saying that's an excuse, but I'm wondering why you're making things sound worse than they are.

And please tell me which company doesn't track their users. Apple serves ads too.

Apple doesn't sell your personal information, whereas that is Google's primary business.

naveah
Dec 6, 2012, 08:39 PM
This is fantastic. Slowly—but surely—Google is encroaching on Apple’s iOS turf. With all these app launches from Google in the past few weeks, I feel that a Google Maps app is imminent.

I also wonder if the same (free) fate awaits the Sparrow app, purchased by Google a few months ago?

haruhiko
Dec 6, 2012, 08:45 PM
I guarantee you... if it's from Google, it ain't free. Oh, you may not have to pay upfront for it, but you'll pay... SOMEthing...SOME way, eventually. I'm sure it's yet another scheme by Google to get your personal information. I'm staying clear of it like I do now from all things Google.

As long as it doesn't secretly upload all my photos to their server I'm fine with that. What can it steal provided that iOS 6 now asks me if it wants to access my contacts, calendar, etc. etc. Oh not to mention I use gmail... it's definitely the best free mail service on the planet.

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If you are that worried you might as well just get off the internet right now. Cut the cord and play outside, oh yeah, can't do that either because someone is watching you there as well.

Your phones are tapped, your computer is tapped, your entire life is tapped.

Welcome to the new world. And if you don't think every single communication is being watched, you haven't seen the HUGE facility the NSA is building here in Utah to do so even better than before

When Google Earth can zoom up to street level on a remote city in Central Asia, I'm sure many countries in the world can watch your every step just by flicking on a button. Not to mention online activities. If you think there is any privacy on the internet you're delusional. :p Apple's apps are sandboxed and what they can potentially do with an iOS app is minimal. With 75% of so called market share of Android phones, I'm sure Google is more interested in their data than ours.

John.B
Dec 6, 2012, 10:38 PM
As a photographer, my concern isn't for Snapseed. I'm hoping Google doesn't kill off the excellent Nik software toolsets such as Viveza, Dfine, Sharpener Pro, etc. that it got in their acquisition of Snapseed.

Bypass what security? The people who's network got accessed by Google didn't have their WPA security on and left the door wide open. Not saying that's an excuse, but I'm wondering why you're making things sound worse than they are.

Apple's apps are sandboxed and what they can potentially do with an iOS app is minimal. With 75% of so called market share of Android phones, I'm sure Google is more interested in their data than ours.

Nothing is off limits when a company lacks ethics:

Google Circumvents Safari Privacy Protections - This is Why We Need Do Not Track (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/time-make-amends-google-circumvents-privacy-settings-safari-users)

CodeBreaker
Dec 6, 2012, 11:24 PM
Got excited, installed it, used it. It is a fine image editor. But as soon I learnt that it got Googled, I deleted it. Not sure why. Anyways, I use the default camera app on my phone to snap, and editing only happens on my Mac, if required.

petsounds
Dec 6, 2012, 11:36 PM
I hate these app icons that introduce this kind of idiotic, tilted perspective. Who thought that was a good idea?

Checked out the app. Nothing special. I find the interface confusing, and if you have to have a tutorial screen for every feature, you haven't made an intuitive interface. But I guess that fits right in with Google's products.

taxiapple
Dec 6, 2012, 11:44 PM
This app has been changing it's price back and forth between $4.99 & free
since it was released.
Since June of 2011 it has flip floped 14 times.....more than most politicians.

nagromme
Dec 6, 2012, 11:48 PM
If you are that worried you might as well just get off the internet right now. Cut the cord and play outside, oh yeah, can't do that either because someone is watching you there as well.

Your phones are tapped, your computer is tapped, your entire life is tapped.

Welcome to the new world. And if you don't think every single communication is being watched, you haven't seen the HUGE facility the NSA is building here in Utah to do so even better than before

Yes, there are many privacy threats... but they are not all equal.

The difference being that Google makes nearly ALL their money from tracking users. It’s what makes ads worth so much to buy. Subtracting Google from your privacy problems is no empty gesture: others may have some of your data... but Google won’t have it and won’t be renting it out (anonymized or otherwise). Same goes for Facebook. I’d rather have the NSA track me than NSA + Google + Facebook.

Whereas other companies aren’t so focused on that—such as Apple, who makes nearly ALL their money by providing a good experience that keeps customers returning.

That said, if Google does anything sneaky with Snapseed, they’ll get caught before too long, so I don’t feel the need to avoid the app. (I won’t sign in to Google with it, though.)

olowott
Dec 7, 2012, 12:50 AM
so many app from the Google Team:confused:


We just want Maps :p

fr33 loader
Dec 7, 2012, 02:40 AM
I don't know about you guys but I actually wish that ads are more tailored for me. I wouldn't hate ads as much if its about mountain biking or road biking instead of cooking utensils or cat foods. I wish Google would snoop more of my web activities...

Donka
Dec 7, 2012, 06:18 AM
The have ruined the frames module in this release. Previously, you could pick the width of the frame and border - now they are fixed and you only have a relatively small selection of frames. The previous version was almost infinite in it's adjustments.
Also, I hope this is free purely to help promote Google+. I paid full price for this when it was first released and if they start including ads then I will be well p1ssed and requesting a refund. Easily one of the best photo apps around and I truly hope Google don't ruin it as they have with frames!

bushido
Dec 7, 2012, 07:42 AM
love this app. quick and easy to edit your snapshots on the move

legacyb4
Dec 7, 2012, 08:26 AM
Sounds like I'll be sticking with 1.4.2; glad they made it full-screen for iPhone 5 before being revamped by Google. Wish iOS/iTunes had a way of marking apps as "do not upgrade" as it now becomes a chore to manually update apps one by one...

brylliant
Dec 7, 2012, 08:43 AM
Snapseed was free last year, for Apple's 12 days of Christmas app. I have it since then! :)

John.B
Dec 7, 2012, 09:22 AM
Wish iOS/iTunes had a way of marking apps as "do not upgrade" as it now becomes a chore to manually update apps one by one...

This!

Donka
Dec 7, 2012, 09:24 AM
Or versioning so there is an option to roll back to one of the last 3 updates i.e. for loss of functionality like this or if an update introduces a bug which caused crashing etc.

BJMRamage
Dec 7, 2012, 09:51 AM
I feel it is FREE as a way to get people to download it and in the news since it is a new Android App. it will most likely go back to full/normal price later. and the more people get it free, the more people "might" start using google+

oh and i HATE HATE HATE the new icon. i wish you could go back to older icons. loved the black but the white is no on.

Hidesuru
Dec 7, 2012, 10:33 AM
Got excited, installed it, used it. It is a fine image editor. But as soon I learnt that it got Googled, I deleted it. Not sure why. Anyways, I use the default camera app on my phone to snap, and editing only happens on my Mac, if required.

My guess? Because you are an Appelite, or whatever the reverse of fandroid is (don't really know or care). In other words, just as bad. You admit it was a great app, but that you deleted it solely because it was owned by Google, without even knowing why... ::shakes head::

Not addressed to you: I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see so much anti-google vitriol in this forum, but somehow I still am. This is no better than a mac story on a droid forum. Anyone who starts to feel personally one way or another about a company rather than judging individual products objectively ought to be ashamed of themselves IMHO.

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Snapseed was free last year, for Apple's 12 days of Christmas app. I have it since then! :)

Ahh, but you live in the jolly old UK. ;)

Apparently licensing prevents Apple from doing that in the US. :(

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I don't know about you guys but I actually wish that ads are more tailored for me. I wouldn't hate ads as much if its about mountain biking or road biking instead of cooking utensils or cat foods. I wish Google would snoop more of my web activities...

An excellent point, sir. Seeing as how your web activities are most likely linked back to a number (IP or MAC addy) there is very little harm. Remember, Google is a company, not a person, so who cares what they do or do not know? Its not like someone there is personally assigned to review your web traffic.

Not to mention (as has been pointed out elsewhere) there is NO privacy on the net, so don't do something you would be ashamed to tell the world about!

BJMRamage
Dec 7, 2012, 10:54 AM
as others have said this has been free many times in the past. this is a way to get more to use it and maybe even their google+

I still think it is the Best photo editing app, especially with the way you can adjust only certain parts of the picture.

John.B
Dec 7, 2012, 11:20 AM
My guess? Because you are an Appelite, or whatever the reverse of fandroid is (don't really know or care). In other words, just as bad. You admit it was a great app, but that you deleted it solely because it was owned by Google, without even knowing why... ::shakes head::

People's trust issues with Google are of Google's own making. See the link (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/time-make-amends-google-circumvents-privacy-settings-safari-users) in post #20 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=16441958&postcount=20) of this thread for one example.

Lots of people are skeptical of Google's motives, so it's natural for people question when Google offers something for 'free', "What's the catch?"

yusukeaoki
Dec 7, 2012, 11:25 AM
I had this since it first came out which was free.
So I never really paid for it but Im glad its free to those out there that never got a chance to use this.

This app rocks!

Donka
Dec 7, 2012, 11:27 AM
I don't care about Google owning Nik Software but I do care about losing functionality which I paid for. One of the great things about Snapseed is the way the interface works and how you can alter things by simple swipes - up & down for the component to change and left & right for the value for that component. This functionality has been removed from the frames module and I'm concerned this may hit other areas of the application as well.

fsck-y dingo
Dec 7, 2012, 12:14 PM
As a photographer, my concern isn't for Snapseed. I'm hoping Google doesn't kill off the excellent Nik software toolsets such as Viveza, Dfine, Sharpener Pro, etc. that it got in their acquisition of Snapseed.



Same here. I really enjoy the Color and Siver Efex Pro plug-ins.

That said, if Google does anything sneaky with Snapseed, they’ll get caught before too long, so I don’t feel the need to avoid the app. (I won’t sign in to Google with it, though.)

I feel that's true. The app itself is probably fairly benign unless you sign into a Google account. Once signed in, who knows. Still fairly harmless I'd imagine but not going to chance it. I use Gmail but always sign out after using it for email purposes. I never browse the web while signed in. I'll never sign into an account with this app or use the official Gmail app either.

If Snapseed is found to do anything other than it's intended purpose I'll either revert to the previous version or move on to something not yet owned by Google.

Hidesuru
Dec 7, 2012, 01:34 PM
People's trust issues with Google are of Google's own making. See the link (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/time-make-amends-google-circumvents-privacy-settings-safari-users) in post #20 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=16441958&postcount=20) of this thread for one example.

Lots of people are skeptical of Google's motives, so it's natural for people question when Google offers something for 'free', "What's the catch?"

Well, we all know Apple (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-25/apple-accused-in-suit-of-tracking-ipad-iphone-user-location-1-.html) would NEVER (http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2011/02/ipad_iphone_apple_sued.php) do such a thing (http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/1724-apple-app-privacy-invasion-class-action-lawsuit)...

I'm not saying Google has never collected user information or anything like that, but the fact of the matter is you really cannot point to a major holder of personal information these days that doesn't have some screw ups along the way, some worse than others.

At least in Google's case they -usually- don't give you the impression that you have some right to privacy when you use their services (ever actually READ their user agreements? Its pretty clear they can do nearly anything they want with your data).

In my opinion Apple gives more of a false impression, but I still don't care. I just operate under the assumption that ANYTHING I put online is instantly no longer private, and act accordingly. Some folks don't want to do that, and that's fine. You simply limit yourself to a very small subset of companies that you can work with, because too many people do not care or are not informed, and as a result public opinion does not force these companies (pretty near all of them) to be better with your info.

I mean, what is it you are doing online that you (the general you) are so afraid of others finding out anyway? The only sort of information I expect to be kept private is stuff like banking information and whatnot that companies explicitly tell you will be kept safe, and that is not (I don't think, correct me if I am wrong) what is at issue in this case.

My original point was just the anti-Google rhetoric I was seeing. I am a recent convert to the iPhone (with the 5) and think that (for me) its a much better platform, but I still have nothing against either company. I have gripes against both company's products (I despise Siri for instance, but cannot stand the UI lagginess in 'droid).

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Yujenisis
Dec 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
The changes are certainly a mixed bag...

I just hope they make the $10 Mac App Store version free too.

I'd love an app for the quick edits I usually have to fire up Aperture with Color Efex Pro to get.

With regards to the whole Google v. Apple thing...The difference is that Apple's business is more straightforward and traditional: Let me sell you a nice thing so that you'll like it and buy more things from me in the future. I make money from you buy the things you choose to buy from me.

Google's business is a completely novel, and IMHO dubious invention: Let me give you things so I can track everything you do with it, everything you give me becomes my property which you have no control over and I am free to sell it to others. The more I know about you the more money I make.

The fact is your examples of Apple's violations of privacy have one significant difference from Google's. Apple's supposed "violations" were used internally only. None of this information was made available to third parties or sold. Apple screwed up for sure with not being more upfront about the nature of their diagnostic tracking. But the very nature of Google's business is disingenuous as they seek to be perceived as a "consumer electronics" company which is truly a Big Brother marketing firm.

Hidesuru
Dec 10, 2012, 10:02 AM
The changes are certainly a mixed bag...

I just hope they make the $10 Mac App Store version free too.

I'd love an app for the quick edits I usually have to fire up Aperture with Color Efex Pro to get.

With regards to the whole Google v. Apple thing...The difference is that Apple's business is more straightforward and traditional: Let me sell you a nice thing so that you'll like it and buy more things from me in the future. I make money from you buy the things you choose to buy from me.

Google's business is a completely novel, and IMHO dubious invention: Let me give you things so I can track everything you do with it, everything you give me becomes my property which you have no control over and I am free to sell it to others. The more I know about you the more money I make.

The fact is your examples of Apple's violations of privacy have one significant difference from Google's. Apple's supposed "violations" were used internally only. None of this information was made available to third parties or sold. Apple screwed up for sure with not being more upfront about the nature of their diagnostic tracking. But the very nature of Google's business is disingenuous as they seek to be perceived as a "consumer electronics" company which is truly a Big Brother marketing firm.

I can appreciate the points you made there. I do have one thing I disagree with, though. As I said before I don't think Google is being dishonest about their intentions with your data. Its very clearly spelled out in every agreement any user cares to click without reading. While its the norm to do so, I have little sympathy for a user who clicks OK on a legally binding document without even skimming it and then complains...

While I don't think using data internally only makes it OK, there is still a distinction there, yes.

Yujenisis
Dec 13, 2012, 08:31 AM
I can appreciate the points you made there. I do have one thing I disagree with, though. As I said before I don't think Google is being dishonest about their intentions with your data. Its very clearly spelled out in every agreement any user cares to click without reading. While its the norm to do so, I have little sympathy for a user who clicks OK on a legally binding document without even skimming it and then complains...

While I don't think using data internally only makes it OK, there is still a distinction there, yes.

I am in complete agreement with you that consumers tend to have a very cavalier attitude regarding privacy or even Terms of Use. Too often the majority rely on the whistleblowers or Government regulation to do all the work for them (this is not a political statement).

Where I tend to feel Google is less honest is in their attempts to brand themselves as a consumer-oriented company, which they are not.

They are an advertising company. They are an advertising company that has redefined the limits of what that word means. Their products are the consumers, and their advertising vehicles are the superb interfaces that they put their true business behind.

I have plenty of problems with Apple, but their business is much more straightforward and traditional.