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assassin204
Dec 11, 2012, 04:42 PM
Hi Guys,

New to the Mac scene, just bought my first MacBook air yesterday. I have always been a windows user, and still will be for games and stuff, but as I started a new job; I thought I would get a Mac for my day-to-day stuff to change things up.

When I started looking around for software to install on my Mac, it immediately changed my way of thinking. I thought I would need an antivirus, disk cleanup and other softwares to maintain my Mac, just looking on Google for these answers immediately showed I didn't.

So my question is, do I require any type of software to maintain my mac at all?

Also, I was wondering if you guys could advice me on some cool software for basic stuff, e.g. something like a program that tells me the stats of my mac(temp, ram use etc)

Thanks Guys



184550
Dec 11, 2012, 04:46 PM
Nope, you don't really need anything to maintain your new MacBook Air.

I use Coconut Battery (http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/) to check my battery every so often. Though there are numerous other free and paid battery apps depending upon your desired level of information.

aerok
Dec 11, 2012, 04:48 PM
Hi Guys,

New to the Mac scene, just bought my first MacBook air yesterday. I have always been a windows user, and still will be for games and stuff, but as I started a new job; I thought I would get a Mac for my day-to-day stuff to change things up.

When I started looking around for software to install on my Mac, it immediately changed my way of thinking. I thought I would need an antivirus, disk cleanup and other softwares to maintain my Mac, just looking on Google for these answers immediately showed I didn't.

So my question is, do I require any type of software to maintain my mac at all?

Also, I was wondering if you guys could advice me on some cool software for basic stuff, e.g. something like a program that tells me the stats of my mac(temp, ram use etc)

Thanks Guys

The only maintenantce I need is iDefrag to defrag my hard drive once in a while. And I also format my Macbook once a year to keep it fast. (Usually when there is a new version)

assassin204
Dec 11, 2012, 04:52 PM
wow...I honestly cant believe its as easy as that. haha.

well thats awesome :)

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The only maintenantce I need is iDefrag to defrag my hard drive once in a while. And I also format my Macbook once a year to keep it fast. (Usually when there is a new version)

Forgive me if i am wrong, but I have always been told that SSD's shouldn't be defragged.

aerok
Dec 11, 2012, 04:52 PM
wow...I honestly cant believe its as easy as that. haha.

well thats awesome :)

Also make sure to not leave it plugged too long, apparently ruins the battery long term.

184550
Dec 11, 2012, 04:52 PM
Some users like iStat (http://bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/) (or similar) for managing their Mac.

aerok
Dec 11, 2012, 04:52 PM
Forgive me if i am wrong, but I have always been told that SSD's shouldn't be defragged.

Ah true forgot it was SSD for Macbook Air, nvm :)

assassin204
Dec 11, 2012, 04:55 PM
Some users like iStat (http://bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/) (or similar) for managing their Mac.

yeah i was speaking to a friend, and I think i recall him saying that this was a pretty good program to get. Thanks

aerok
Dec 11, 2012, 04:57 PM
yeah i was speaking to a friend, and I think i recall him saying that this was a pretty good program to get. Thanks

Also get DaisyDisk, it's a great free app to check why your HD is filled up :p

Small White Car
Dec 11, 2012, 04:57 PM
Go to your computer's preferences and find 'Security & Privacy' and then turn on the firewall. There's not a whole lost else you have to do for security other than make sure you don't enter your system password for programs when you don't know where they came from.

Another security measure: Don't instal Flash. Get Google Chrome, it has its own flash player built in. ONLY launch that when you need flash and then close it again. This lets you access flash sites but will keep Safari, Firefox, and the rest of your system free of flash and any exploits it may allow from sites running in the background that you didn't know about.


The only maintenantce I need is iDefrag to defrag my hard drive once in a while.

You can do what you want, but there's no need to drag new users into habits that Apple says aren't necessary (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1375?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US).


Also get DaisyDisk, it's a great free app to check why your HD is filled up :p

I second this. You'll find caches of old stuff you don't need or old iPhone backups or some such junk that can be trashed.

A great program.

aerok
Dec 11, 2012, 05:00 PM
You can do what you want, but there's no need to drag new users into habits that Apple says aren't necessary (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1375?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US).


Doesn't really matter anymore since he's using SSD but on a regular HDD, OSX cannot defragment by itself if the HDD is nearly full.

assassin204
Dec 11, 2012, 05:02 PM
thanks for the advice guys, really helpful :)

Drew017
Dec 11, 2012, 05:03 PM
Hi Guys,

New to the Mac scene, just bought my first MacBook air yesterday. I have always been a windows user, and still will be for games and stuff, but as I started a new job; I thought I would get a Mac for my day-to-day stuff to change things up.

When I started looking around for software to install on my Mac, it immediately changed my way of thinking. I thought I would need an antivirus, disk cleanup and other softwares to maintain my Mac, just looking on Google for these answers immediately showed I didn't.

So my question is, do I require any type of software to maintain my mac at all?

Also, I was wondering if you guys could advice me on some cool software for basic stuff, e.g. something like a program that tells me the stats of my mac(temp, ram use etc)

Thanks Guys

Yep thats the great thing about OS X... it doesn't need to be maintained! :D Just a warning, however, don't fall for those ads like "MacKeeper" because they are scams... ;)

One other app you should get it Onyx (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx). It will help you clean the computer caches etc (which normally help the system run faster but can become corrupt)... this isn't something that needs to be done often... only like once a month or 2. It basically makes sure nothing is incorrectly cached and is slowing your computer down

benthewraith
Dec 11, 2012, 05:10 PM
Yep thats the great thing about OS X... it doesn't need to be maintained! :D Just a warning, however, don't fall for those ads like "MacKeeper" because they are scams... ;)

One other app you should get it Onyx (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx). It will help you clean the computer caches etc (which normally help the system run faster but can become corrupt)... this isn't something that needs to be done often... only like once a month or 2. It basically makes sure nothing is incorrectly cached and is slowing your computer down

I can't stress Onyx enough. However, I'd stay away from any disk defragmenting software on a Mac, particularly if you have an SSD as it's a good way to rack up write cycles on your SSD.

assassin204
Dec 11, 2012, 05:11 PM
I have gone onto macupdate just to check out the programs you guys mentioned, and it appears to be all freeware?

Are they just trial software?

aerok
Dec 11, 2012, 05:12 PM
I have gone onto macupdate just to check out the programs you guys mentioned, and it appears to be all freeware?

Are they just trial software?

Onyx and DaisyDisk are indeed free, completely free.

assassin204
Dec 11, 2012, 05:13 PM
Onyx and DaisyDisk are indeed free, completely free.

okay, because I went on daisydisk's site, and there is a charge to buy it.

torana355
Dec 11, 2012, 05:17 PM
My must have general apps for mac are-

istat
Onyx
Insomniax - for laptops.

Not really much maintenance needed with Macs, i just do a fresh OS install every OS release.

aerok
Dec 11, 2012, 05:24 PM
okay, because I went on daisydisk's site, and there is a charge to buy it.

Maybe they changed then, I remember getting it for free on the App Store

assassin204
Dec 11, 2012, 07:01 PM
thats okay its only $10, plus it looks like its every cent worth it anyway

GGJstudios
Dec 12, 2012, 01:23 AM
I thought I would need an antivirus,
You don't need any 3rd party antivirus app to keep a Mac malware-free, as long as you practice safe computing, as described in the following link. Read the What security steps should I take? (http://guides.macrumors.com/Mac_Virus/Malware_FAQ#What_security_steps_should_I_take.3F) section of the Mac Virus/Malware FAQ (http://guides.macrumors.com/Mac_Virus/Malware_FAQ) for tips on practicing safe computing.
So my question is, do I require any type of software to maintain my mac at all?
None. You don't need to "maintain" your Mac and you don't need "cleaner" or "maintenance" apps to keep your Mac running well. Some of these apps can do more harm than good. Some can even degrade, rather than improve system performance.

Some remove files/folders or unused languages or architectures, which does nothing more than free up some drive space, with the risk of deleting something important in the process. These apps will not make your Mac run faster or more efficiently, since having stuff stored on a drive does not impact performance, unless you're running out of drive space.

Some of these apps delete caches, which can hurt performance, rather than help it, since more system resources are used and performance suffers while each cache is being rebuilt. Caches exist to improve performance, so deleting them isn't advisable in most cases.

Many of the tasks performed by these apps should only be done selectively to troubleshoot specific problems, not en masse as routine maintenance.

With very few exceptions, you don't need to defrag on Mac OS X, except possibly when partitioning a drive.

About disk optimization with Mac OS X (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1375?viewlocale=en_US)
You probably won't need to optimize at all if you use Mac OS X.
Mac OS X does a good job of taking care of itself, without the need for 3rd party software. Among other things, it has its own maintenance scripts that run silently in the background on a daily, weekly and monthly basis, without user intervention. You can use Maintidget (http://www.giantmike.com/widgets/Maintidget.html) to see the last time these scripts were run.

Five Mac maintenance myths (http://www.macworld.com/article/133684/2008/06/maintenance_intro.html)
Also, I was wondering if you guys could advice me on some cool software for basic stuff, e.g. something like a program that tells me the stats of my mac(temp, ram use etc)
Use iStat Pro (http://istat-pro.en.softonic.com/mac/download) (free) or iStat Menus (http://bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/) ($16) to get accurate readings of your battery, temps, fan speeds and much more.

This may be useful:

Helpful Information for Any Mac User (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9848667&postcount=6)
Portables Fast Start: The New User's Guide to Apple Notebooks (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2788)
Freeing up drive space in Mac OS X (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15085059&postcount=2)

negativzero
Dec 12, 2012, 08:17 AM
Some other apps you might want to have.

Click2Plugin
Growl
LittleSnitch
Alfred
Bartender

assassin204
Dec 12, 2012, 04:59 PM
thanks everyone for your advice. i've installed the programs you guys mentioned. :)

Resist
Dec 13, 2012, 04:59 PM
Also make sure to not leave it plugged too long, apparently ruins the battery long term.Do have anything to back up this claim?

Once the battery is charged, the power adapter draws little or no electricity from the outlet. So how would this ruin the battery? It certainly causes less harm to the battery than a continuous cycle of full draining and charging.

GGJstudios
Dec 13, 2012, 05:41 PM
Do have anything to back up this claim?

Once the battery is charged, the power adapter draws little or no electricity from the outlet. So how would this ruin the battery? It certainly causes less harm to the battery than a continuous cycle of full draining and charging.
It's fine to leave it plugged in after it's fully charged, as it stops charging when it's full. It's not fine to leave it plugged in all the time, as the battery needs to be exercised regularly to stay healthy. For more details, see the AC POWER section of the following link. The link below should answer most, if not all, of your battery/charging questions. If you haven't already done so, I highly recommend you take the time to read it.
Apple Notebook Battery FAQ (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9875442&postcount=23)

aerok
Dec 13, 2012, 06:29 PM
Do have anything to back up this claim?

Once the battery is charged, the power adapter draws little or no electricity from the outlet. So how would this ruin the battery? It certainly causes less harm to the battery than a continuous cycle of full draining and charging.

From Apple site:

For proper maintenance of a lithium-based battery, itís important to keep the electrons in it moving occasionally. Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time.

http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html