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g0gie
Sep 22, 2005, 12:54 AM
So yes. I was bored but I thought I would take a stab at it. First of all the date in which the PB comes out. My estimate 27 or 28th of September (next week). I reason this because of a few things:

1) according to the product cycle guide on macrumors, they are due just at about this exact time
2) Apple is having a small seminar in New york on Oct 1st to help people learn how to use their "new" powerbooks. although the specs listed are the same they could easily change, and why use the word "new" if the've been out since late January. Furthermore, by holding this seminar it will entice buyers to buy a powerbook after seeing all the neat things it can do with a note saying PB's were updated just this week
3) Good timing : 1) Paris expo will have ended and therefore not steal the thunder 2) Education promotion ends the weekend before 3) We see LOTS of discounts/ refurb listings everywhere showing a clear out of current inventory



Things I expect but dont have reasons for except what I hope for and commom sense in accordance to the market-

1) Higher resolution screens
2) faster CPU's (even if marginally, hoping for 7448 chips) , possibly more RAM and HD space
3) upgraded GPU - perhaps the mobile ati chips


now you guys can pick apart why these things wont happen!! get cracking!!!

mongoos150
Sep 22, 2005, 01:06 AM
So yes. I was bored but I thought I would take a stab at it. First of all the date in which the PB comes out. My estimate 27 or 28th of September (next week). I reason this because of a few things:

1) according to the product cycle guide on macrumors, they are due just at about this exact time
2) Apple is having a small seminar in New york on Oct 1st to help people learn how to use their "new" powerbooks. although the specs listed are the same they could easily change, and why use the word "new" if the've been out since late January. Furthermore, by holding this seminar it will entice buyers to buy a powerbook after seeing all the neat things it can do with a note saying PB's were updated just this week
3) Good timing : 1) Paris expo will have ended and therefore not steal the thunder 2) Education promotion ends the weekend before 3) We see LOTS of discounts/ refurb listings everywhere showing a clear out of current inventory



Things I expect but dont have reasons for except what I hope for and commom sense in accordance to the market-

1) Higher resolution screens
2) faster CPU's (even if marginally, hoping for 7448 chips) , possibly more RAM and HD space
3) upgraded GPU - perhaps the mobile ati chips


now you guys can pick apart why these things wont happen!! get cracking!!!

Higher resolution screens would be awesome - like the Dell Inspiron 700m.

Better graphics chips would be sweet as well, minimizing power consumption. Come on, CPU speed increase and resolution increase! *fingers crossed* - perhaps something to set the 17"/upgraded 15" apart from the 12" and lower 15" powerbooks?

g0gie
Sep 22, 2005, 01:08 AM
If IM right about the update dates, I will consider myself a genious as should you all!!!

ColoJohnBoy
Sep 22, 2005, 01:14 AM
If IM right about the update dates, I will consider myself a genious as should you all!!!

Such modesty and deference. What a gentleman. ;)

By the way, you misspelled 'genius'.

g0gie
Sep 22, 2005, 01:15 AM
i cant spell... im sorry... but im still a genIUS

KittenKrusher
Sep 22, 2005, 01:22 AM
God I hope your right, lol.

I could careless about speedbumps and such, I would just like to have a better LCD.

ColoJohnBoy
Sep 22, 2005, 01:28 AM
I do hope they update them soon. Given the state of my PowerBook (Badly burning my leg, warped around the power jack to the point of not always being able to charge) I'm thinking I'll be able to talk them into replacing it. And as it's BTO, I doubt they'll do it with a refurb. High-Res LCD, lower-power processor... here's to hoping.

bursty
Sep 22, 2005, 01:31 AM
Hmmm thats an interesting prediction. Let's hope it comes true. I would love to see one last PB update before they go Intel. Good work.

kretzy
Sep 22, 2005, 01:54 AM
A good and logical prediction.

I'd really love to see:
- X-brite style screens.
- better battery life (lower power consuming processor)
- 100GB HD standard
- 1 GB RAM standard
- 128 VRAM standard
- DL Superdrive
- AND black anodized aluminium casing option

All for the same price.
:p

im_to_hyper
Sep 22, 2005, 08:33 PM
Now wouldn't THAT be great! I don't think that would happen, unless they REALLY wanted to achieve HIGH sales but making a small profit margin. All those specs would come at a high price for Apple and would be very hard NOT to pass on to the consumer.

If this came true, I would sell my current laptop and get one.

A good and logical prediction.

I'd really love to see:
- X-brite style screens.
- better battery life (lower power consuming processor)
- 100GB HD standard
- 1 GB RAM standard
- 128 VRAM standard
- DL Superdrive
- AND black anodized aluminium casing option

All for the same price.
:p

eva01
Sep 22, 2005, 08:38 PM
A good and logical prediction.

I'd really love to see:
- X-brite style screens.
- better battery life (lower power consuming processor)
- 100GB HD standard
- 1 GB RAM standard
- 128 VRAM standard
- DL Superdrive
- AND black anodized aluminium casing option

All for the same price.
:p

noooooooooooo X-brite screen for the love of satan noooooo i know a friend that has that style screen on his dell laptop and i HATE HATE HATE HATE it, it makes my eyes hurt and gives me more of a headache than i normally have. Everything else besides that and the black color is ok in my book.

Sedulous
Sep 22, 2005, 09:18 PM
I agree, the X-brite screens have far too much glare.

elevenpower
Sep 22, 2005, 09:37 PM
I didn't want to make an entirely new post about my question. But I was wondering what were the predictions for the Intel Powerbooks? Do you guys think that Apple will have more models to choose from? Like other laptop manufacturers? Or do you think they will just revamp the current lineup with Intel chips?

tekmoe
Sep 22, 2005, 10:44 PM
g0gie, if you are right, i will personally call you a GENIUS!@$%

g0gie
Sep 23, 2005, 01:02 AM
for those of you that like the xbrite screens, what you CAN do is get an Avery screen protector/cover for your powerbook. IT does add gloss and thus adds glare, but the picture quality looks absolutly wonderful. Its amazing what a simple piece of plastic can do for your powerbook/ibook. I have one on my pb now and really, it makes the XGA screen look like its high def, derno why it does , but it does

aswitcher
Sep 23, 2005, 02:19 AM
A good and logical prediction.

I'd really love to see:
SNIP
- better battery life (lower power consuming processor)
- 100GB HD standard
- 1 GB RAM standard
- 128 VRAM standard
- DL Superdrive
SNIP

All for the same price.
:p

Yeah, looks good.

I doubt the standard 1 G ram, but the rest looks right. A price drop would be good given in 12 months we should have PBs Intel with like double the battery life (?) and all round better design (HD screens).

cocozz
Sep 25, 2005, 06:24 PM
Just a greater (lighter) screen (like 15"/17") and lower power consuming will be great.

mddharma
Sep 25, 2005, 07:02 PM
noooooooooooo X-brite screen for the love of satan noooooo i know a friend that has that style screen on his dell laptop and i HATE HATE HATE HATE it, it makes my eyes hurt and gives me more of a headache than i normally have. Everything else besides that and the black color is ok in my book.

I too have to agree on the X-brite screen. The glare problems in most environments are terrible. I would like to see 128 vram in the 12", faster hard drive, and the new processors for more power and more battery life. Here's hoping! :)

kmarketing
Sep 25, 2005, 07:54 PM
Man, those 12" powerbooks get hot enough already. I can only imagine how much more heat there would be with 128mb video memory.

themacman
Sep 25, 2005, 08:37 PM
whatever update comes out will be apreciated. they have to update soon, i need a laptop.

MacPassion
Sep 25, 2005, 10:06 PM
Man, those 12" powerbooks get hot enough already. I can only imagine how much more heat there would be with 128mb video memory.

do they really? do you feel it on the keyboard/trackpad area?i was thinking about getting one myself. i hate spending all the money for a 15" that does not have a great screen to be honest...

Chundles
Sep 25, 2005, 10:14 PM
You should see those xbrite screens down here, you get reflections off them at night.....

They're just horrible to look at, brighter and clearer yes, but only in the parts of the screen where absolutely no light is falling.

I'd like to see them beef up the brightness of the displays so I can actually use this thing outside.

AP_piano295
Sep 25, 2005, 10:48 PM
you know id say your right about the when of the updates will happen you have quite a set of reasonable ideas there.

yet I have lost faith in apple making any significant updates to the powerbook lineup untill they reveal the intel books back when I first got interested in apple I wanted a powerbook (one of those people expecting g5 powerbooks every wensday) that was like a year ago and Ive finally quit the powerbook line and gone with an ibook bought it september 24th gotta love that free ipod mini. Its a collectors item now ;)

AP_piano295
Sep 25, 2005, 10:50 PM
A good and logical prediction.

I'd really love to see:
- X-brite style screens.
- better battery life (lower power consuming processor)
- 100GB HD standard
- 1 GB RAM standard
- 128 VRAM standard
- DL Superdrive
- AND black anodized aluminium casing option

All for the same price.
:p

gig of ram... when hell freazes over remember how long it took them to get past 256

KittenKrusher
Sep 25, 2005, 10:52 PM
Yeah I doubt they will make 1 GB standard on a Powerbook when 512 is still standard on a PowerMac.

Chrispy
Sep 26, 2005, 01:19 AM
The 12" really needs to get a new video card. If they did nothing else to it but make the video card at least a radeon 9700 with an 80GH HD standard in the combo drive model then that would be nice... oh and they need to make 512 built-in so you can actually get it to 1.5GB of ram :rolleyes:

steve_hill4
Sep 26, 2005, 02:31 AM
I too have to agree on the X-brite screen. The glare problems in most environments are terrible. I would like to see 128 vram in the 12", faster hard drive, and the new processors for more power and more battery life. Here's hoping! :)
There's no doubting the quality of the PB screen, it just needs a brightness bump. I would always put them on a par with the x-brite screens, but both have advantages and disadvantages. On the whole, I think the PB screen is better though.

Cloudgazer
Sep 26, 2005, 04:48 AM
For months now people have bee nso busy predicting new powerbooks and ibooks, that the introduction of the nano caught everybody by surprise.

I'm thinking there's not going to be an upgrade in Sept for the powerbooks. My money is on somethig in the iPod range.
what are the predictions there?

chucknorris
Sep 26, 2005, 05:57 AM
For months now people have bee nso busy predicting new powerbooks and ibooks, that the introduction of the nano caught everybody by surprise.

I'm thinking there's not going to be an upgrade in Sept for the powerbooks. My money is on somethig in the iPod range.
what are the predictions there?

Quiet upgrade of PowerBooks. Quiet upgrade of Minis. Less quiet upgrade of PowerMacs, assuming they go dual-core.

iPods upgraded at MWSF, or, hopefully, during another media event sometime before Christmas.

BTW: I really don't see why Apple would put dual dual-core chips in the new G5's. That would ridiculously expensive and ridiculously ridiculous.

chucknorris
Sep 26, 2005, 05:59 AM
The 12" really needs to get a new video card. If they did nothing else to it but make the video card at least a radeon 9700 with an 80GH HD standard in the combo drive model then that would be nice... oh and they need to make 512 built-in so you can actually get it to 1.5GB of ram :rolleyes:

Those are absolute minimums.

I almost feel embarrassed for Apple comparing the 12" PowerBook to the new iBooks.

I believe the 15" is a very good value, but could stand to be cheaper.

Joch
Sep 26, 2005, 06:05 AM
Do you think we will se an update of the powerbook line in the next two weeks or even later in October?

Nereus
Sep 26, 2005, 06:46 AM
Do you think we will se an update of the powerbook line in the next two weeks or even later in October?

Hi fellow countryman! I'm hoping for an update tomorrow or on Wednesday. If that doesn't happen I'll wait until next Tuesday. By then I will probably place an order for a 15" PowerBook regardless of an update or not. That said if nothing special happens ;) I certainly hope not that we will have to wait until the event in London in the end of October.

c2104338
Sep 26, 2005, 07:07 AM
The 12" really needs to get a new video card. If they did nothing else to it but make the video card at least a radeon 9700 with an 80GH HD standard in the combo drive model then that would be nice... oh and they need to make 512 built-in so you can actually get it to 1.5GB of ram :rolleyes:

Stuff having 512mb built-in, you won't be able to upgrade it. Make it like the 15/17" PBs where they come with 512mb standard but it's NOT built-in. That way you can always upgrade to 2GB instead of only 1.5GB like the iBooks.

Joch
Sep 26, 2005, 08:54 AM
Hi fellow countryman! I'm hoping for an update tomorrow or on Wednesday. If that doesn't happen I'll wait until next Tuesday. By then I will probably place an order for a 15" PowerBook regardless of an update or not. That said if nothing special happens ;) I certainly hope not that we will have to wait until the event in London in the end of October.

This is exactly the same situation I am in, and the student BTS offer ends on October 8th so that day is my deadline. However if I were to speculate, I donīt think we will see an update before that and I also donīt think the update will be released during the London event... I think Apple is there to do PR before they go Intel Inside... I would guess they release new PB:s somewhere in between these dates...

But I still hope for an update tomorrow!

Chundles
Sep 26, 2005, 09:17 AM
Stuff having 512mb built-in, you won't be able to upgrade it. Make it like the 15/17" PBs where they come with 512mb standard but it's NOT built-in. That way you can always upgrade to 2GB instead of only 1.5GB like the iBooks.

Wouldn't work, you'd either need a second RAM slot like the 15"/17"ers have or you'd have to verify that 2GB SODIMMS (if they even exist) work - if you do that, then the 15"/17"ers will be able to hold 4GB.

If you don't build the RAM in then the 12"er could only hold 1GB.

It's pretty obvious to me they'll build 512MB into the 12" PowerBook on the next rev.

al3000
Sep 26, 2005, 10:36 AM
I really hope it's soon, and that apple doesn't let us down us with no updates :(

cocozz
Sep 26, 2005, 11:51 AM
Apple...please... :( :( :(

jiv3turkey748
Sep 26, 2005, 12:09 PM
12"
80gb
512
8x dual layer superdrive
1.6ghz 200mhz fsb
ati radeon 9700 64mb vram
$1,499

15"
100gb
512mb
1.8ghz 250mhz fsb
8x dual layer superdrive
ati radeon 9700 128 mb vram
1,899

17"
100gb
1gb
8x dual layer superdrive
1.8ghz 300mhz fsb
ati 9700 128mb vram
2,199

Sijmen
Sep 26, 2005, 12:13 PM
12"
80gb
512
8x dual layer superdrive
1.6ghz 200mhz fsb
ati radeon 9700 64mb vram
$1,499

Is that a prediction or a rumour? If the latter, source and time/date? These would be awesome.

cocozz
Sep 26, 2005, 12:25 PM
A comeback for 12" to ati would be very great, I want to use it on Linux and even if Ati drivers are not awesome, nVidia has not produce (and will not produce for the moment) any ppc drivers.

Chrispy
Sep 26, 2005, 12:29 PM
Man a friend of mine that goes to school with me has a 12" powerbook coming in the mail today :eek: I should probably tell him not to open it shouldn't I? Oh man.... so hard to do

jiv3turkey748
Sep 26, 2005, 12:40 PM
Is that a prediction or a rumour? If the latter, source and time/date? These would be awesome.

its a prediction

Chrispy
Sep 26, 2005, 01:06 PM
Man a friend of mine that goes to school with me has a 12" powerbook coming in the mail today :eek: I should probably tell him not to open it shouldn't I? Oh man.... so hard to do

Well... its here. We are just staring at the box unsure of what to do. I turned him onto a deal I have also taken advantage of where you get a free all-in-one printer, a free 1GB RAM, A free carrying case and a free sleve AND a $100 rebate. So, really, even if there are updates he is not going to beat that deal.... I guess maybe its time to just open it.

chucknorris
Sep 27, 2005, 02:08 AM
Well... its here. We are just staring at the box unsure of what to do. I turned him onto a deal I have also taken advantage of where you get a free all-in-one printer, a free 1GB RAM, A free carrying case and a free sleve AND a $100 rebate. So, really, even if there are updates he is not going to beat that deal.... I guess maybe its time to just open it.

Go for it.

Honestly, with the crazy market for Macs right now, you'd hardly lose anything just selling it when the update comes.

g0gie
Sep 28, 2005, 01:09 AM
oh God let the powerbooks come out. This is pathetic, the 15'' pb only has SLIGHTLY and i do mean SLIGHTLY better specs than the mac mini and it costs almost 5x as much. and the difference between the ibooks and the pb... and the price is still double.. WTF!!!!!!!!! apple gimme my friggen update now!!!!!! I swear, they are just waiting for stock to deplete before they release new pb's... just like they are putting mini's into boxes that arnt the same spec

likosoad
Sep 29, 2005, 04:50 PM
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYMORE PREDICTIONS FOR PB UPDATE??!!!
PLZ SHARE ! I really need to have another date to look forward to, The waiting is the hardest part !