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Dec 13, 2012, 09:09 PM
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Two hit games arrived for Mac today in Batman: Arkham City Game of the Year Edition and The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition and are now available in the Mac App Store.

After being announced (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/02/batman-arkham-city-comes-to-the-mac-in-november/) for Mac in October, Feral Interactive has brought Arkham City to Mac a year after its release on consoles and a year after the predecessor Arkham Asylum was released (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/03/batman-arkham-asylum-arrives-on-the-mac-app-store/) in the Mac App Store.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/12/mzl.vxmxojfw.800x500-75.jpgA year after the events of Batman: Arkham Asylum, Quincy Sharp, the new mayor of Gotham, has turned its slums into Arkham City, a terrifying open-air prison where violent thugs and insane super-villains are incarcerated within heavily fortified walls.

When Batman is imprisoned alongside Gotham's most notorious, he must discover Arkham City's true purpose before it's too late. This intense, atmospheric sequel to Batman: Arkham Asylum plunges Batman deep into a gothic nightmare from which he will need all his wits, gadgetry and skill to escape.The Game of the Year Edition includes all the DLC that hit the consoles for no extra cost, including the Harley Quinn's Revenge story mission, multiple skins and Challenge Map packs. Arkham City is going for $39.99 in the Mac App Store [App Store Link (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/batman-arkham-city-game-year/id561687003?mt=12#)] and its minimum system requirements are a 2.0 GHz processor, 4 GB of RAM, a 256MB graphics card and 16GB of harddrive space.

The other big release is The Witcher 2 which, unlike Arkham City, comes from original developer CD Projeckt RED and is on sale right now for $19.99 [App Store Link (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/witcher-2-assassins-kings/id564196178?mt=12#)]. It arrives eight months after arriving on Xbox 360 and a year and a half after it was released on PC.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/12/mzl.lbbcjcgz.800x500-75.jpgPlay a game where your choices really matter and where you affect the fate of individuals, communities, and entire kingdoms. Fight blood-thirsty monsters and navigate a web of schemes, lies, and political intrigue in one of the best looking games ever to come to Mac.

You are Geralt of Rivia, a witcher, a member of a mysterious caste of professional beast-slayers created through brutal training and mutation. Witchers specialize in tracking down and killing monsters. Long gone are the days when beasts lived near human settlements in every forest and cave, and the folk of the Northern Kingdoms held witchers in high regard. The age of elf and dwarf massacres has come, a time when men rival monsters in the evil they do, a time when mutated witchers are regarded as dangerous outcasts, neither human nor nonhuman. Amidst this chaos, Geralt is drawn into a bloody conspiracy. Accused of killing a king, the witcher embarks on a solitary quest to clear his name and uncover the mysteries of his past.The Witcher 2 has been heralded as one of the best RPGs in the past could years and contains all the enhancements and DLC that the Xbox 360 version contains. You can check if your Mac meets the requirements at The Witcher website (www.thewitcher.com/checkyourmac). The minimum specs require OS X 10.7.5 or later, an Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 4 GB RAM, GeForce GT 650M 512 MB, Radeon HD 5770 1 GB and 25 GB free HDD space.

Article Link: Batman: Arkham City and The Witcher 2 Arrive in Mac App Store (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/13/batman-arkham-city-and-the-witcher-2-arrive-in-mac-app-store/)



xxgilxx
Dec 13, 2012, 09:17 PM
Sure I'm gonna get a copy of this when I can get a console version for 15 bucks. AC is an awesome game though...

Cougarcat
Dec 13, 2012, 09:23 PM
Just a clarification: Witcher 2 has been out for the Mac for months now. Today is just its MAS debut.

iSayuSay
Dec 13, 2012, 09:25 PM
Call me pedantic, but spec requirement is technically possible yet not plausible. Surely not for Mac.

Which Mac that have Core 2 Duo AND Geforce 650M or even Radeon 5770?
Any Mac with C2D wouldn't have enough GPU power to run those games, and any Mac with 650M or stronger already on Core i5 or i7. Confusing, no?
While on PC it's still possible to pair C2D with geforce 680.

coolspot18
Dec 13, 2012, 09:29 PM
A bit late, while both are good games, they're both bargain bin games.

outphase
Dec 13, 2012, 09:35 PM
The Witcher 2 is on GOG.com for $7.49. http://www.gog.com/gamecard/the_witcher_2

ArtOfWarfare
Dec 13, 2012, 10:32 PM
A bit late, while both are good games, they're both bargain bin games.

Really? I wasn't aware quality games dropped in price so rapidly... I was shocked at the $40 price tag (seemed low to me.)

I guess, with this new found knowledge, I may never buy a game at launch again... Why pay $60 (which is too expensive, whatever happened to $50 at launch?) when you can wait a year and pay $30?

Cougarcat
Dec 13, 2012, 10:48 PM
As far as Mac ports go, it's actually a very good deal. $40, not $50, and it's the GOTY version so you get everything. The PC GOTY version is $30 on Steam, so it's not that much more (granted, that same version will be discounted to $14 or less during the Winter sale...)


Unfortunately it's pretty much par for the course that Mac ports arrive when the PC version is in the bargain bin.

crazy dave
Dec 13, 2012, 11:11 PM
Call me pedantic, but spec requirement is technically possible yet not plausible. Surely not for Mac.

Which Mac that have Core 2 Duo AND Geforce 650M or even Radeon 5770?
Any Mac with C2D wouldn't have enough GPU power to run those games, and any Mac with 650M or stronger already on Core i5 or i7. Confusing, no?
While on PC it's still possible to pair C2D with geforce 680.

It's not so much meant to be reflective of a particular machine, just that the CPU requirements are not as intense as the graphics requirements. It might be barely possible for an old MacPro that's been updated to have such a spec (i.e. old processor but new or better graphics chip - obviously it would have desktop graphics card). I'm not actually sure that's a possible machine, but as I said, I think it is more reflective that the CPU usage is not as intense as the graphics chip.

As an FYI I ran The Witcher 2 on my Windows partition on my 17-inch MacBook Pro with an i7 processor and Geforce GT 330M. It ran - it wasn't pretty, but it was playable. However, I get the impression that the OS X engine isn't quite as optimized (originally a DirectX game) and the drivers are likewise not quite optimized, so I'm not convinced it would work on my Mac side (I haven't tried even though I can download either version from GOG). I also only have Snow Leopard still.

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The Witcher 2 is on GOG.com for $7.49. http://www.gog.com/gamecard/the_witcher_2

Also note, GOG's is both Mac and Windows version, DRM-free :)

The 75% sale expires in less than 10 hours.

Syndra
Dec 14, 2012, 12:45 AM
Is it a native port or just a skin wrap?

UrgArg
Dec 14, 2012, 01:02 AM
Is it a native port or just a skin wrap?

Batman AC will be native as it was ported by Feral... Don't know about the other though (?)

Can't wait to play AC, have been waiting for the Mac version, thanks Feral! Though I'm almost 100% done on AA so will have to try and finish that first otherwise ill never go back :\

MatthaiosSaraj
Dec 14, 2012, 02:11 AM
Now they need to get Skyrim and Total War series to mac and it's bye bye windows for me :D. If only apple would update their opengl drivers

AnonMac50
Dec 14, 2012, 02:54 AM
It's not so much meant to be reflective of a particular machine, just that the CPU requirements are not as intense as the graphics requirements. It might be barely possible for an old MacPro that's been updated to have such a spec (i.e. old processor but new or better graphics chip - obviously it would have desktop graphics card). I'm not actually sure that's a possible machine, but as I said, I think it is more reflective that the CPU usage is not as intense as the graphics chip.

As an FYI I ran The Witcher 2 on my Windows partition on my 17-inch MacBook Pro with an i7 processor and Geforce GT 330M. It ran - it wasn't pretty, but it was playable. However, I get the impression that the OS X engine isn't quite as optimized (originally a DirectX game) and the drivers are likewise not quite optimized, so I'm not convinced it would work on my Mac side (I haven't tried even though I can download either version from GOG). I also only have Snow Leopard still.

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Also note, GOG's is both Mac and Windows version, DRM-free :)

The 75% sale expires in less than 10 hours.

Even an old Mac Pro is faster than many Core i machines.

g-7
Dec 14, 2012, 03:37 AM
Is it a native port or just a skin wrap?

Witcher 2 seems to be native, there are no Cider or Wine files inside the bundle.

charlieegan3
Dec 14, 2012, 05:12 AM
Never been big on anything batman but the witcher games look awesome!

Icaras
Dec 14, 2012, 05:33 AM
YESSSS. More support for Mac gaming. :cool:

Will purchase Witcher 2 this weekend. Now can we also get the first Witcher on the MAS too? :D

Still have to play through Arkham Asylum first so I can hold out for a price drop on Arkham city later, but I'm definitely happy to see both Arkham games on the Mac now.

iSayuSay
Dec 14, 2012, 05:34 AM
Even an old Mac Pro is faster than many Core i machines.

If you're talkin about 6 core MP and beyond then yes.
But a quad MP? It's not reallty that fast, both CPU and GPU has been crapped out by top end 27" iMac for some time now.

Classic reason .. Top end iMac costs $2300 or so for upgraded CPU and GPU, 27" display included.

while a new quad MP costs what? $2500 for a West"mere" Xeon and puny Radeon 5770? And it doesn't even have any display included. I find it really hard to justify the purchase, even if I am a blinded Apple fan.

alvindarkness
Dec 14, 2012, 05:48 AM
Wonder how regional restrictions figure into this. The Witcher 2 in Australia could not achieve an MA15+ rating without being modified (as trivial as the modification was). If someone in Australia buys W2 from MAS, will they get the same version as everyone else?

chaosbunny
Dec 14, 2012, 06:00 AM
The Witcher 2 runs about the same in Mac OS 10.8 and Windows 7 on my Mac Pro. Seems like a decent port. Getting the game in the MAS is a bad deal though, on gog.com you get both the Mac and Windows version completely drm free plus a bunch of other goodies (soundtrack, wallpapers, making-of videos, etc.).

ncaissie
Dec 14, 2012, 07:21 AM
Really? I wasn't aware quality games dropped in price so rapidly... I was shocked at the $40 price tag (seemed low to me.)

I guess, with this new found knowledge, I may never buy a game at launch again... Why pay $60 (which is too expensive, whatever happened to $50 at launch?) when you can wait a year and pay $30?

I only Paid $20 for B AC on the PS3.

moo083
Dec 14, 2012, 07:37 AM
Game companies need to stop selling the rights to the Mac versions to porting companies like feral. Instead they should pay them a large sum to port it and then release it themselves. This would allow the game to show up in steam and the people who already bought the game for pc in steam would already have a Mac copy. But because feral would lose tons of money that way since they don't get any money from pc versions, the Mac version cannot go on steam. It's a shame.

mentaluproar
Dec 14, 2012, 08:25 AM
Game companies need to stop selling the rights to the Mac versions to porting companies like feral. Instead they should pay them a large sum to port it and then release it themselves. This would allow the game to show up in steam and the people who already bought the game for pc in steam would already have a Mac copy. But because feral would lose tons of money that way since they don't get any money from pc versions, the Mac version cannot go on steam. It's a shame.

Not really. Mac steam sucks.

I'm hesitant to get the AC, since AA choked on my mini at native res.

Blomkvist
Dec 14, 2012, 09:49 AM
Game companies need to stop selling the rights to the Mac versions to porting companies like feral. Instead they should pay them a large sum to port it and then release it themselves. This would allow the game to show up in steam and the people who already bought the game for pc in steam would already have a Mac copy. But because feral would lose tons of money that way since they don't get any money from pc versions, the Mac version cannot go on steam. It's a shame.

I have a hard time swallowing these types of gripes. Let's all please realize that game developers/publishers are in business to MAKE money....and not give their product away. I agree that it's unfortunate that PC versions come out 99.9% of the time prior to Mac versions being ported or released. But think where we would be if Feral closed up shop?!

coolspot18
Dec 14, 2012, 09:56 AM
Really? I wasn't aware quality games dropped in price so rapidly... I was shocked at the $40 price tag (seemed low to me.)

I guess, with this new found knowledge, I may never buy a game at launch again... Why pay $60 (which is too expensive, whatever happened to $50 at launch?) when you can wait a year and pay $30?

Exactly ... I never pay full retail price when it will drop in price in ~3 months. I have too many games to play!

Yeah, both games are ~20.00 in Canada already. Hard to justify full retail price when it's already been discounted for console.

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Never been big on anything batman but the witcher games look awesome!

Arkham Asylum and Arkham City are amazing games. A bit of RPG, stealth, action, and heavy story mixed in. You won't be disappointed! But to play AA/AC you absolutely need a game pad (or console).

ScholarsInk
Dec 14, 2012, 10:39 AM
If those AC requirements are accurate, they're lower than the PC ones. How is that possible?

ArtOfWarfare
Dec 14, 2012, 01:18 PM
If those AC requirements are accurate, they're lower than the PC ones. How is that possible?

I believe OS X takes less of a toll on your hardware than Windows Vista, 7, or 8, which might contribute to the OS X having lower requirements.

ScholarsInk
Dec 14, 2012, 02:57 PM
I believe OS X takes less of a toll on your hardware than Windows Vista, 7, or 8, which might contribute to the OS X having lower requirements.

That wouldn't do it, because porting more than makes up for it.

ArtOfWarfare
Dec 14, 2012, 03:06 PM
That wouldn't do it, because porting more than makes up for it.

I don't understand the need to "port"... I do my games in C/C++ with a tiny bit of Obj-C/Cocoa for getting a rendering surface set up and getting user input... it seems like "porting" to Windows would be trivial, the resources and most of the code would be identical regardless of target platform... I've never written an app with a GUI for Windows (except when I did a Java app once....) but it doesn't seem like getting its equivalent to the cocoa/obj-c code wouldn't be hard...

AnonMac50
Dec 15, 2012, 08:41 AM
If you're talkin about 6 core MP and beyond then yes.
But a quad MP? It's not reallty that fast, both CPU and GPU has been crapped out by top end 27" iMac for some time now.

Classic reason .. Top end iMac costs $2300 or so for upgraded CPU and GPU, 27" display included.

while a new quad MP costs what? $2500 for a West"mere" Xeon and puny Radeon 5770? And it doesn't even have any display included. I find it really hard to justify the purchase, even if I am a blinded Apple fan.

I meant if you had one. I can't justify a purchase of a Mac Pro at any price!

theelysium
Dec 15, 2012, 10:13 AM
Any one know a really good game controller for Mac? or a good app that makes the XBox controller work?

ocrane
Dec 15, 2012, 10:35 PM
I just downloaded Arkham City.. Crashes entire system over an over again. Tried running in high and medium settings. Running on my Retina MBP 2.6..

Anyone else having this issue?

coolspot18
Dec 17, 2012, 12:29 AM
I believe OS X takes less of a toll on your hardware than Windows Vista, 7, or 8, which might contribute to the OS X having lower requirements.

Windows has a much better graphics subsystem than OSX ... Not sure why the requirements are different. In fact, the porting overhead should make it higher.

I don't understand the need to "port"... I do my games in C/C++ with a tiny bit of Obj-C/Cocoa for getting a rendering surface set up and getting user input... it seems like "porting" to Windows would be trivial, the resources and most of the code would be identical regardless of target platform...

It's because games are not written from scratch using C/C++... they often rely on one or more engines and frameworks - i.e. Unreal for graphics, havok for physics, etc. I don't think these engines are fully supported on the Mac which may account for the need to port.

However, as you probably noticed, games are multi-platform these days - releases are simultaneous on the Xbox, PS3, and PC... it's because the engines and frameworks support those platforms which make it quicker/easier for devs, perhaps one day they'll support OSX (but that'll require a critical mass of users... which Apple still lacks).

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Game companies need to stop selling the rights to the Mac versions to porting companies like feral. Instead they should pay them a large sum to port it and then release it themselves.

I bet Feral licenses these games for cheap - considering it's months after release. Game companies don't want to spend any money on the Mac platform because there are so few users - and the hardcore gamers will use Bootcamp or play on a console.

jesses
Dec 17, 2012, 11:26 AM
B:AC working great on my 2012 MBP 13" non-ret. I didn't change any video settings.

Bantz
Dec 18, 2012, 03:15 PM
I doubt you will get good performance on many macs. Im glad I have sli 680s :):):):):):) The Witcher 2 is so good

jocala
Dec 18, 2012, 11:56 PM
B:AC working great on my 2012 MBP 13" non-ret. I didn't change any video settings.

After two hours of play, B:AC is running great on my MBP attached to a 40" LCD. Trackball is driving me nuts, I'm constantly facing away from opponents and I'm getting my butt kicked.

gibkibonzo
Feb 10, 2013, 03:36 PM
I just downloaded Arkham City.. Crashes entire system over an over again. Tried running in high and medium settings. Running on my Retina MBP 2.6..

Anyone else having this issue?

Just a thought: can't believe you spent so much money to get the 2.6 ghz retina with a 512 ssd drive but didnt upgrade to 16gb ram. Shame... ;)