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Mr. Anderson
Dec 2, 2002, 07:50 AM
But it gets better -

"Researchers say increased cell phone use has led to more crashes caused by drivers on the phone, but the value people place on being able to call from the road roughly equals the accidents' cost."

The value of medical bills, injury and possibly death are valued the same as being able to talk to someone in your car? Idiots.

I'd be perfectly happy to have a no driving while on the phone law, it already is in effect in a few places.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/12/02/phone.driving.ap/index.html

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Bradcoe
Dec 2, 2002, 08:28 AM
I live in NY state and I even got pulled over by a state trooper for talking on the phone while driving this past summer. He said to me "I think this law sucks. Women doing their make-up and someone eating a Big-Mac are worse". Then he said just to watch myself because some cops actually will try to enforce the law. I said thanks and went and bought a small headset. IT's legal to talk on the phone if you have a headset, but not legal to hold a handset next to your face (god forbid you need that hand to do something other than shift a manual car).

The truth is, this law is bogus and his two examples are proof why. It should be up to the driver whether or not he/she can drive and talk at the same time. Get a phone with voice activated dialing and a headset and you wont have to take your eyes off the road.

dnte42
Dec 2, 2002, 09:07 AM
Heh, it should be up to the driver...the problem is, who will admit that they can't drive with a cell phone before they wreck? Not many by my judgement. I appreciate laws like this considering all the idiocy I see on the road with those bloody things. No, cell phones don't make everyone bad drivers, but they don't ever seem to make anyone better.

Mr. Anderson
Dec 2, 2002, 09:30 AM
I understand the law sucks, but the problem is that there are a lot more people out there using cell phones and driving than woman putting on makeup or people eating Big Macs at the wheel.

Anyone here ever had an accident or been in an accident due to cell phone usage?

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BenderBot1138
Dec 2, 2002, 09:58 AM
Yea would love it if people would stop talking and driving before a law is needed, but if they keep it up it'll happen.

That way drivers with cell phones won't be able to rule with their iron fists... :D

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ewinemiller
Dec 2, 2002, 10:11 AM
I almost got creamed the other day when some guy in his big ole' Expedition blew through a red light, chatting away on his cell phone. Stopped just short of my drivers side door. I don't think headsets and voice dialing help, it wasn't him fumbling around trying to dial or his phone obscuring his view, he was simply paying attention to the conversation, not the road, a headset wouldn't have helped.

As for the other things that the cop listed as worse, I think they should be able to ticket you for putting on makeup, trying to shove a cheeseburger down your throat, or reading a book while driving too. I once saw someone driving down the road take both hands off the wheel, turn to their side and talk sign to the passenger!

dricci
Dec 2, 2002, 10:26 AM
Just what we need, more stupid laws that'll either go unenforced or cause mass court confusion!

We have laws against reckless driving, redlight running, and speeding. If someone on a cell phone blows through a red light, is speeding, or swirving, give them a TICKET FOR THAT CHARGE. WHY DO WE NEED MORE LAWS AGAINST THE SAME DAMN THING?</rant>

ewinemiller
Dec 2, 2002, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by dricci
Just what we need, more stupid laws that'll either go unenforced or cause mass court confusion!

We have laws against reckless driving, redlight running, and speeding. If someone on a cell phone blows through a red light, is speeding, or swirving, give them a TICKET FOR THAT CHARGE. WHY DO WE NEED MORE LAWS AGAINST THE SAME DAMN THING?</rant>

We outlaw driving while intoxicated, the person behind the wheel doesn't actually have to run a red light or swerve, just be drunk to be arrested, it seems like the same thing. Here's why I think it's the same thing, a British study found that a person talking on a cell phone has a worse reaction time than someone legally drunk. Here is the link
http://www.wirelessnewsfactor.com/perl/story/16908.html

Mr. Anderson
Dec 2, 2002, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by ewinemiller
a British study found that a person talking on a cell phone has a worse reaction time than someone legally drunk.

Ha, now that is damn interesting - although they need to do more research, 20 test subjects isn't enough.

And why didn't they try giving the drunks a cell phone and see how bad it could really get.....;)

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ewinemiller
Dec 2, 2002, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by dukestreet


And why didn't they try giving the drunks a cell phone and see how bad it could really get.....;)

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You're right, a larger data set is certainly needed, but it does mirror my personal experiences.

When Drunks have Cell Phones, sounds like one of those Fox specials!

alex_ant
Dec 2, 2002, 12:55 PM
I think instead of making cell-phone handsets illegal to use while on the road, they should make all distractions illegal - including eating, turning around to yell at the kids, reading maps without stopping, and yes, cell phone handset usage. A separate law wouldn't be necessary for each of these - one general law would do. And what's just as important as the law is the law being enforced. This is not to say we need a million squad cars out with their eyes trained on soccer moms who might be thinking about picking up their cell phone - we just need the police we already do have to take this seriously and not let it slide.

How hard would it be for auto manufacturers to put a little headset jack into their vehicles? And maybe even include the headset with the car? And how hard would it be for cell phone manufacturers to put a little sticker on the cell phone that says e.g. "Illegal to use while driving." The problem is many Americans' hyper-individualism, which prefers streamlined laws over saved lives.

Mr. Anderson
Dec 2, 2002, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by alex_ant
I think instead of making cell-phone handsets illegal to use while on the road, they should make all distractions illegal - including eating, turning around to yell at the kids, reading maps without stopping, and yes, cell phone handset usage. A separate law wouldn't be necessary for each of these - one general law would do.

Ha, I don't see this happening, but I agree, a general law would be best. I think its just the widespread use of cell phones in cars that is causing it to be more noticeable than at any other time previously in the past.

By the time this gets to be addressed correctly there will most likely be automated cars that drive you to your location by themselves, leaving you to do what ever you want on the trip. It would make the law unnecessary.

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jelloshotsrule
Dec 2, 2002, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by alex_ant
I think instead of making cell-phone handsets illegal to use while on the road, they should make all distractions illegal - including eating, turning around to yell at the kids, reading maps without stopping, and yes, cell phone handset usage. A separate law wouldn't be necessary for each of these - one general law would do. And what's just as important as the law is the law being enforced. This is not to say we need a million squad cars out with their eyes trained on soccer moms who might be thinking about picking up their cell phone - we just need the police we already do have to take this seriously and not let it slide.

How hard would it be for auto manufacturers to put a little headset jack into their vehicles? And maybe even include the headset with the car? And how hard would it be for cell phone manufacturers to put a little sticker on the cell phone that says e.g. "Illegal to use while driving." The problem is many Americans' hyper-individualism, which prefers streamlined laws over saved lives.

i just wrote down that idea in my "laws to create/change in 2k16 as the pants pisser party takes over the worl... ehh, country."

the worst thing is that a good amount of the people driving while on the phone have suvs. what that means, is if they do have an accident, goodbye other car. unless it's a h2 (i just bought 5 by the way)

diorio
Dec 2, 2002, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Bradcoe

The truth is, this law is bogus and his two examples are proof why. It should be up to the driver whether or not he/she can drive and talk at the same time. Get a phone with voice activated dialing and a headset and you wont have to take your eyes off the road.

I don't know about that. You still have to concentrate to talk, while concentrating on the road. It matters that your eyes will be on the road, but you will still not fully be concentrating on the road, a often fatal error.

Mr. Anderson
Dec 2, 2002, 04:02 PM
Ok, I was down in the gym running on the tread mill (too damn cold outside for that today) and cnn news was on the tv - they ran this story, but had some more info -

2000-3000 people die a year because of accidents caused from cell phones interferring with drivers ability to concentrate on the road.

I think this is absolutely nuts and I plan on pulling over or waiting till I stop to use the phone from now on - and there is no way you can justify using a cell phone in the car with this sort of statistic - what price is a life?

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alex_ant
Dec 2, 2002, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
i just wrote down that idea in my "laws to create/change in 2k16 as the pants pisser party takes over the worl... ehh, country."

the worst thing is that a good amount of the people driving while on the phone have suvs. what that means, is if they do have an accident, goodbye other car. unless it's a h2 (i just bought 5 by the way)
I think the way the Pants Pissers Party should solve this problem is by mandating that all SUV bumpers be filled with the liposucked fat of their owners. Then whenever an SUV gets into an accident, nobody will be hurt - it will be just like bumper cars!

diorio
Dec 2, 2002, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet
Ok, I was down in the gym running on the tread mill (too damn cold outside for that today) and cnn news was on the tv - they ran this story, but had some more info -

2000-3000 people die a year because of accidents caused from cell phones interferring with drivers ability to concentrate on the road.

I think this is absolutely nuts and I plan on pulling over or waiting till I stop to use the phone from now on - and there is no way you can justify using a cell phone in the car with this sort of statistic - what price is a life?

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First of all, keep up the excersise, sitting in front of the computer all day is not good.

2000-3000 is a huge number, one that could be drastically reduced if America would give up a convience for safety. I fear this will not happen until a law is made forcing people to do so.

Convenience is not worth life, those who would argue otherwise are probably the ones who are going to run a red light and kill me while I'm turning on the green arrow.

Mr. Anderson
Dec 2, 2002, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by diorio
First of all, keep up the excersise, sitting in front of the computer all day is not good.

You don't need to tell me - I'm an avid ultimate frisbee player - tomorrow and thursday we have games at lunch - I just run on the off days. And it doesn't matter what the weather is like for ultimate, sometimes the worse it is the more fun it ends up.

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diorio
Dec 2, 2002, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet


You don't need to tell me - I'm an avid ultimate frisbee player - tomorrow and thursday we have games at lunch - I just run on the off days. And it doesn't matter what the weather is like for ultimate, sometimes the worse it is the more fun it ends up.

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I know on my crosscountry team, the muddier it is the funner it is. It's fun with snow too, but a little colder and slower running than is desired.

alex_ant
Dec 2, 2002, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by diorio
I know on my crosscountry team, the muddier it is the funner it is. It's fun with snow too, but a little colder and slower running than is desired.
Yes... I can understand how that relates to cell phone usage causing auto accidents :)

diorio
Dec 2, 2002, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by alex_ant

Yes... I can understand how that relates to cell phone usage causing auto accidents :)

Hmmm, cough, cough, I meant that, my team has almost got hit by crazed cell phone drivers not paying attention, and thats on a sunny day, with no weather hazards to worry about!