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homerjward
Sep 25, 2005, 12:43 AM
im in this class at school where we're learning about 3d modeling using lightwave, and it's really amazing some of the things you can do in that program...
i was just wondering if anyone here does 3d modeling or animation like professionally, or in school or anything.

here's a couple of images i've made for projects this year. they're really basic 'cause i'm just starting out learning :o (the sketch in the one with the pencils isn't mine)



maya
Sep 25, 2005, 12:48 AM
Lightwave 8 and Maya 3D.

Used to use them a lot back in the day, however I do not work on it much as I have other priorities. I was using LW back when it was at version 4, a lot has changed in a major way. Maya 3D takes a lot of CPU power and if you cannot afford it, LW is your best bet.

There are other 3D apps, however I find LW and Maya 3D are the best.


The first image looks too 3D, the second one the sketch looks good. Guessing the sketch is a placed image. :)

TheMonarch
Sep 25, 2005, 02:55 AM
Cinema 4D ALL THE WAY!!! Awesome 3D app for the Mac, and of course, Windows. The interface is so intuitive, well at least when compared with other 3D apps.

Relatively cheap, about 1k give or take.

mcadam
Sep 25, 2005, 05:26 AM
A friend of mine has become a big fan of ZBrush recently, send me this link to a very functional free demo:

http://pixologic.com/order/demoselect.html

It's also seem to be a really intuitive interface (once you get to know it), that works in quite an interesting different way from other 3d apps.

The best free and still legal option might be blender (http://www.blender.org/cms/Home.2.0.html) that used to be a normal commercial app, but changed to opensource freeware. They make the money of selling the manuals i think...

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Wes
Sep 25, 2005, 07:20 AM
I messed around doing 3D about two years ago, self-taught and using Cinema 4D here's the sort of stuff I came up with:

(Sorry for size)

http://wesley.wsgurus.com/imagevue/content/Best%20Images/CD%20Cover/CD%20Cover.jpg

CD Cover for a friend's album, real background with composited instruments.

http://wesley.wsgurus.com/imagevue/content/Best%20Images/Watch/WatchDOF.jpg

Fictitious watch I made for no reason really.

http://wesley.wsgurus.com/imagevue/content/Best%20Images/HDRI%20Rendered%20Desk/Desk.jpg

What I envisioned a 15 inch powerbook Alum would look like before it came out, I think I should have got a copyright, spitting image of the real thing!

http://wesley.wsgurus.com/imagevue/content/Best%20Images/Airbus%20A380/Airbus%20A380.jpg

Experiment with planes...

Aeolius
Sep 25, 2005, 08:47 AM
I still like playing with Bryce and Poser.

ammon
Sep 25, 2005, 08:49 AM
I started using Lightwave 3D on our old Video Toaster many years ago (like 8 years). Now I use version 8.2 at home. I do all my work for fun, no job/schooling or anything of the sort. But I sure love it!

homerjward
Sep 25, 2005, 12:30 PM
I messed around doing 3D about two years ago, self-taught and using Cinema 4D here's the sort of stuff I came up with:

(Sorry for size)

<images removed>
wow, those look great! i especiall like the room with the powerbook in it.
and maya, what's a placed image? the sketch is just a 0" tall box with the sketch image applied as a texture :o

maya
Sep 25, 2005, 12:41 PM
what's a placed image? the sketch is just a 0" tall box with the sketch image applied as a texture :o


Same thing, you can also take a flat picture and make it 3D, that looked realistic. :)

Various programs use different terminologies. ;) :)

blenderdude
Sep 25, 2005, 02:53 PM
Yup, I use Blender (http://www.blender3d.org/) for all my 3D stuff, and just recently I used it to make a book cover for a freelance job (so I guess you could say I'm a professional).

Blender is an excellent 3D program, and the next version to be released (2.40) will be absolutely amazing. Plus, you can't beat the price--free!

Here's some samples of my work, just so you can get an idea of what Blender can do (and my work is not nearly as good as some other blender artists):

http://www.cgartwork.com/jms/cliffwip_big6.jpg (still in WIP)
http://www.cgartwork.com/jms/images/24.jpg
http://www.cgartwork.com/jms/images/22.jpg

If anyone has any questions about Blender, feel free to ask!

ammon
Sep 25, 2005, 03:39 PM
Blender is an excellent 3D program, and the next version to be released (2.40) will be absolutely amazing.

I will admit that Blender is a very powerful program. However, the tools and ease-of-use compared to commercial apps (like lightwave) just isn't up to par. But for the price, you are right. You can't do better than free!

cheekyspanky
Sep 25, 2005, 05:11 PM
I've just finished my universty degree in Computer Aided Product Design, with my main bit of software being Pro Engineer Wildfire.

I'm wanting to branch out a bit though into other packages, get a bit more traditional drawing etc experience through my year break (between now and Sept 06) then start a masters degree.

I've downloaded some of the trials mentioned above so i'll be giving them a go over the next few days :)

ironfistphil
Sep 25, 2005, 11:26 PM
I just started to use Blender a few days ago and will have many questions Blender guy, hehe.

Got an AIM or anything?

Phat_Pat
Sep 26, 2005, 12:39 AM
anybody heard of this? (http://www.naturalmotion.com/)

I saw it on AOTS and it looks really neat, but unfortunately its only windows i think :(

maya
Sep 26, 2005, 12:44 AM
anybody heard of this? (http://www.naturalmotion.com/)

I saw it on AOTS and it looks really neat, but unfortunately its only windows i think :(


And might get ported to Mac OS X when the new MacTels are released. ;) :)

homerjward
Sep 26, 2005, 02:36 AM
anybody heard of this? (http://www.naturalmotion.com/)

I saw it on AOTS and it looks really neat, but unfortunately its only windows i think :(
wow. i checked out that site, and got the learning edition, and it's an amazing program. i have no idea how it does those things but after doing a 10 minute tutorial i could make a guy realistically stagger across the scene...amazing...thanks for the link! by the way, it runs very slow on my pc (athlon 64, 2gb ram, x800)

MacRumorSkeptic
Sep 26, 2005, 03:17 AM
I'm with the other Cinema 4D guys. I love this program! It has the best GUI hands down over other 3D packages. Its the Mac of 3D no question about it.

Lacero
Sep 26, 2005, 03:20 AM
I'm with the other Cinema 4D guys. I love this program! It has the best GUI hands down over other 3D packages. Its the Mac of 3D no question about it.
Hmmm... you make your presence known. :rolleyes:

I think Cinema 4D is good but Maya is gooder. In the early 90's I used Strata 3D and produced lovely radiosity renders that took 300 hours or so with 98 percent solved.

ATD
Sep 26, 2005, 05:18 AM
I do a lot of 2D / 3D work for movies/television. I started with Electric Image and still use it from time to time because it's got a very fast renderer. I worked with Lightwave for a while but ended up hating it because of the interface. Maya is the way to go if you really want to get deep into this. It is not an easy program but I can't think of anything it can't do. It's by far the most powerful 3D app for the Mac. I have been working with it for over 3 years and I feel I just started to tap into it's full power. I have a lot of examples of Maya and EI on my site if you want to check them out

http://www.atdesignla.com/

Maya has a free learning version called PLE, other than being heavily watermarked it's pretty much the full program without a time limit.

ironfistphil
Sep 27, 2005, 05:51 PM
I do a lot of 2D / 3D work for movies/television. I started with Electric Image and still use it from time to time because it's got a very fast renderer. I worked with Lightwave for a while but ended up hating it because of the interface. Maya is the way to go if you really want to get deep into this. It is not an easy program but I can't think of anything it can't do. It's by far the most powerful 3D app for the Mac. I have been working with it for over 3 years and I feel I just started to tap into it's full power. I have a lot of examples of Maya and EI on my site if you want to check them out

http://www.atdesignla.com/

Maya has a free learning version called PLE, other than being heavily watermarked it's pretty much the full program without a time limit.

ATD I really like your work, I'm only starting to get back into 3D modelling, I'm not in school right now so no Edu discount for me. Blender works for me as it's free! :)

ATD
Sep 27, 2005, 09:01 PM
ATD I really like your work, I'm only starting to get back into 3D modelling, I'm not in school right now so no Edu discount for me. Blender works for me as it's free! :)

Free is always a good option :) Thanks.

TheMonarch
Sep 27, 2005, 10:09 PM
Here is some work I did while in high school (I was part of a Multimedia program). Its the in-between in 2D and 3D (This is a picture of my neighborhood I took, added 3D elements, for the effect of a 3D scene)

If you guys are interested enough, here are the links to the 2 second movies of this

Movie of the effect (http://stu.aii.edu/%7Emo374/Movs/Cmap2.mov)

Wireframe of the effect (http://stu.aii.edu/%7Emo374/Movs/CmapWire.mov)

Not much, but meh, still learning...

EDIT: Pardon the horrendous compression, I had to, because I was running out of space :o

jelloshotsrule
Sep 28, 2005, 09:54 AM
i have used everything from poser and bryce, strata studio, and now maya. i would have a hard time going back to those. zbrush is definitely taking a certain aspect of the market by storm, though i haven't tried to use it since its first version or so, at which point it was a lot less flexible. there are definitely artists who take any software and make amazing stuff with it, so it's a matter of using the software to create a vision, and any of these can do that i'm sure. ultimately, if you become most familiar with one package, that will be most efficient for you. i have tried lightwave but was confused by all the various apps that come along with it (the renderer, etc, all separate). but i have seen amazing results from it.

a film i made in school, in 2003

clam chomp (http://www.gelbin.org/clammy)

vbob
Jan 21, 2011, 11:13 AM
Here is a 3D artwork I did for fun yesterday.


"Inferno - Burn Out Your Thirst"
(An Advertisement of a Fantasy Refreshment Drink - Made in Blender)


Here is the final creation / 3D Rendering:
(High Definition 1920x1080)

http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3687&d=1295616538&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3687&d=1295616538)

Some "BackStage":

http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3686&d=1295610305&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3686&d=1295610305)


http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3653&d=1295480780&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3653&d=1295480780)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3654&d=1295480786&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3654&d=1295480786)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3655&d=1295481021&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3655&d=1295481021)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3656&d=1295481395&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3656&d=1295481395)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3657&d=1295481403&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3657&d=1295481403)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3658&d=1295481531&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3658&d=1295481531)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3662&d=1295486989&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3662&d=1295486989)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3665&d=1295487429&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3665&d=1295487429)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3664&d=1295487421&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3664&d=1295487421)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3663&d=1295487415&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3663&d=1295487415)


Here I destroyed it, just for fun...hehe :-)

http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3666&d=1295488793&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3666&d=1295488793)

Some Renderings (before the final):

http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3675&d=1295523634&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3675&d=1295523671)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3674&d=1295523626&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3674&d=1295523667)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3673&d=1295523621&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3673&d=1295523663)


Some Renderings with water drops.

http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3679&d=1295546757&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3679&d=1295546757)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3680&d=1295546764&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3680&d=1295546764)http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3681&d=1295546772&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3681&d=1295546772)

And the final again

http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3687&d=1295616538&thumb=1 (http://madseeds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3687&d=1295616538)

I hope you like it. :-)

Cuddles
Jan 26, 2011, 07:34 AM
Ooo cool can! I'm using Blender. I have an animation class and the teacher is trying to get everyone to hand draw the stuff. I asked her if I can use some animation software to make my stuff and she said yeah. I'll put a walk cycle up, once I get it refined.

Blender is great, once you get a workflow going. It took me quite awhile to pick it up again, but now it's fairly easy. It doesn't help that I don't have a office/desk for my PC at home. I was just talking to someone yesterday about Lightwave. I definitely want to check it out, the renderings look awesome in it. Had a friend that LOVES Zbrush. He is an artist though, I don't know if that program offers anything for animating.

vbob
Jan 26, 2011, 07:43 AM
Ooo cool can! I'm using Blender. I have an animation class and the teacher is trying to get everyone to hand draw the stuff. I asked her if I can use some animation software to make my stuff and she said yeah. I'll put a walk cycle up, once I get it refined.

Blender is great, once you get a workflow going. It took me quite awhile to pick it up again, but now it's fairly easy. It doesn't help that I don't have a office/desk for my PC at home. I was just talking to someone yesterday about Lightwave. I definitely want to check it out, the renderings look awesome in it. Had a friend that LOVES Zbrush. He is an artist though, I don't know if that program offers anything for animating.


Thank you very much for your comment.
Personally I love blender. It can do almost anything that the commercial 3D programs can do. You can also use external raytracing renderers like Luxrender. The first moments with blender in the past was painful, but once you use it for a week or more and learn it, you will love it.
Zbrush is an amazing sculpting tool. Blender have sculpting tools too.
Blender is open source and free, so this is another big plus for blender. :-)

mBox
Jan 26, 2011, 07:57 AM
Thank you very much for your comment.
Personally I love blender. It can do almost anything that the commercial 3D programs can do...nice job :) the dew drops, is that full on dynamic particles? Ive never used Blender just wondering how finite their Particles System are.

Messy
Jan 26, 2011, 09:20 AM
Do a lot of 3D myself, I personally use C4D.

Did this the other day, took about 6/7 hours.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/023/9/d/sackboys_by_theaaronp-d37vj7t.jpg

This one took me about 12-14 hours, and was for a competition for the game EVE-Online.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/251/0/8/silurus__minmatar_science_ship_by_theaaronp-d2ya4bk.jpg

vbob
Jan 26, 2011, 09:26 AM
nice job :) the dew drops, is that full on dynamic particles? Ive never used Blender just wondering how finite their Particles System are.

Thank you for your comment.
The water droplets were created using a particle system and some low resolution 3D models of droplets.

You can see some more photos and read some details (the article) about the creation in the following link (the site is pretty new and I haven't post many creations there. Maybe I will post only my newer creations - year 2011 and beyond)
http://www.vbobolas.com/2011/01/22/inferno-burn-out-your-thirst/

Messy
Jan 26, 2011, 10:06 AM
vbob, wouldn't mind seeing some examples of your work, the title of "3D/2D/Video Editing and Special Effects Artist" is an impressive one, I imagine you have a portfolio online?

vbob
Jan 26, 2011, 10:18 AM
vbob, wouldn't mind seeing some examples of your work, the title of "3D/2D/Video Editing and Special Effects Artist" is an impressive one, I imagine you have a portfolio online?


I am building my online portfolio at the link I gave in my previous post.
I started it this month. You are welcome to visit it. :-)

Ps.: very impressive your creation.

chrono1081
Jan 26, 2011, 10:46 AM
Very nice work everyone! (That ship is REALLY nice) I wish I could model like that but sadly I don't have the time for it :( Programming is eating up all my time :(

Messy
Jan 26, 2011, 01:00 PM
Very nice work everyone! (That ship is REALLY nice) I wish I could model like that but sadly I don't have the time for it :( Programming is eating up all my time :(

In the same boat, kind of. I do a lot of the stuff above, but would like to learn more on the programming side but don't have the time.

Thanks though, the ship was widely recieved in the competition it was entered into, but unfortunately did not win.

:(

Cuddles
Jan 26, 2011, 02:13 PM
Yeah, great work on the ship. You did all the textures yourself?

Messy
Jan 27, 2011, 01:55 AM
Yeah, great work on the ship. You did all the textures yourself?

The Ships textures were done myself, on the SackBoy model above, the Skin texture was done by me, but the camo fabric and wool material are both manipulated from stock photos. Turned out pretty well i think.

Coheebuzz
Jan 27, 2011, 11:51 AM
Great job on the spaceship textures!.

Here is something i've been working on for a few weekends now, modeling of the orc was done in Sculptris and the rest in Cinema4D/Photoshop. Not quite finished yet but i think its coming together pretty nicely so i thought i'd share.

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6264/orcbq.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/i/orcbq.jpg/)

chrono1081
Jan 28, 2011, 10:27 PM
Great job on the spaceship textures!.

Here is something i've been working on for a few weekends now, modeling of the orc was done in Sculptris and the rest in Cinema4D/Photoshop. Not quite finished yet but i think its coming together pretty nicely so i thought i'd share.

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6264/orcbq.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/i/orcbq.jpg/)

Wow that is really really nice! Great work!

jbyun04
Jan 29, 2011, 03:41 AM
Maya + ZBrush or 3DSMax + ZBrush FTW.

It's a shame Max isn't out on Mac.. I haven't touched 3d in a few years but it's always fun to dive into.

chrono1081
Jan 31, 2011, 12:41 AM
I ADORE ZBrush even though I suck at it. I even bought a license when ZBrush 4 was announced. I don't really suck at it I just don't have time to play with it due to school being freaking insane as of late with regards to homework requirements. :(

Once I graduate though I'll have time to work on things like a portfolio haha.

AppleToApples
Feb 6, 2011, 04:45 AM
What about Vray for rendering or Maxwell? they are very good as well? or am i way off the topic? hahaha....:confused:
I am an Architecture student.. currently I have Vray on my Windows computer but wanna get it for my new iMac that i recently purchased:apple:. At the same time i wanna keep my options open. I've been doing some research as to what rendering program i should use but haven't had any feed back. So now im here to ask... I am usually working on Sketchup and Autocad.. any suggestions anyone?