Chinese SUV gets a "0" in crash test.

[DakotaGuy]

Jiangling Landwind SUV (from China)

If this thing shows up in a country near you...please run away as fast as you can for your own personal safety! The firm that crash tested it said it was the most dangerous vehicle they have ever tested in 20 years! Chinese engineering at it's best! Of course, the media is already saying when these hit the US shores it is going to hurt the domestics even more. Let me ask you? Even if you saved a few thousand buying this over a more mainstream Japanese, GM, Ford, or even Korean SUV is it worth your life?

Here is the orginal story:

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22749-1783784,00.html

Of course now Jiangling is defending it. The best line of this whole story is that the Landwind passes "National Chinese Safety Tests" HAHA! That is the best line I have heard in some time. Here is this story.

Improvements to be made:

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2005/09/23/afx2241356.html

If you really want to feel scared what will happen when these come to the your country you can view this video. It will actually scare you when you see how flimsy this vehicle is built. (Viewer discretion is advised)

Video 1-
http://www.anwb.nl/published/anwbcms/content/binaire-bestanden/mpg/auto/tests/crashtest-landwind-1-467150.wmv
Video 2-
http://www.anwb.nl/published/anwbcms/content/binaire-bestanden/mpg/auto/tests/crashtest-landwind-2-467165.wmv

I wonder when these will come on US soil???

What is left of passenger compartment after the test attached...

[barneygumble]

If i ever want to commit suicide i now know the perfect car to buy :D

[PlaceofDis]

awww shucks, the video links aren't working for me...

[iMeowbot]

awww shucks, the video links aren't working for me...
All the links are truncated with ... in the middle. Abercrombieboy, any chance of fixing them? Thanks!

[DakotaGuy]

I reposted the links of the video. Try them now and let me know if they work. Honestly, I have watched a lot of crash test videos from every company that builds cars and I have never seen anything come apart like this in a crash! When you see the inside shot of the vehicle with the steering wheel and dashboard flopping all over the place and coming back onto the driver, um, that is not suppose to happen in any decently designed vehicle in a 40MPH test.

[PlaceofDis]

yeah, you would certainly be dead, especially after seeing the clips, thanks for fixing them.... if thats was the problem or whatever.

i hope this doesnt make it over here...

[DakotaGuy]

yeah, you would certainly be dead, especially after seeing the clips, thanks for fixing them.... if thats was the problem or whatever.

i hope this doesnt make it over here...

That is what I was thinking. I feel bad for the poor baby dummy in the back seat cause his dummy daddy just died in that crash!

[Xtremehkr]

That thing just crumbled. I don't think that it will even be allowed to be sold over here.

Eventually though, I think that the Chinese will end up making some pretty decent cars. Should give Japan a run for their money. The big 2.49 are going to have to step up.

[WillMak]

yikes that's some scary ****. I give the chinese 5 more years in R&D before they make a killer SUV deal.

[evoluzione]

they'll never make it into the states or europe with that level of safety surely. are there regulations and such to prevent cars like this being available?

[evoluzione]

wow, actually just watched the videos....

nice that they have an airbag in the steering wheel, at least your face is protected when your head is sliced clean off by the engine going through the car. :rolleyes: shocking stuff

[Roger1]

YOWCH!!! Did the roof actually begin to peel off in that accident?? :eek:

[DakotaGuy]

they'll never make it into the states or europe with that level of safety surely. are there regulations and such to prevent cars like this being available?

They are starting to market them in Europe right now. I think I have all the links now fixed on the first post. Let me know if they don't work. Thanks.

[Counterfit]

I doubt that thing (which looks oddly like the previous generation Jimmy/Blazer/Bravado/etc. from the side...) would ever pass the U.S. Gov't tests. And then if the IIHS got their hands on it, every magazine and newspaper would be reporting how crap it is.

[joepunk]

yeah, you would certainly be dead, especially after seeing the clips, ....HOLLY MAMA :eek: I felt that I died and gone to heaven just by watching those videos.

[Counterfit]

HOLLY MAMA :eek: I felt that I died and gone to heaven just by watching those videos.
Uh, take a look around. Are you sure that's heaven?

[Duff-Man]

Duff-Man says....ouch! I've seen soda-pop cans sturdier than that! ...oh yeah!

[mad jew]

Scary, scary stuff. There's talk Australia is going to start sourcing more cars from our Chinese neighbours. :o

Is it just me or does the embarrassed emoticon look like it's in a Chinese car and it's heading for a brick wall, very fast?

[Lord Blackadder]

That is unbelievable...

I'd rather be in a Model T - at least I'd be ejected from the car instead of having my face ripped off by the dashboard... :(

Don't buy cars from a country that is attempting to check its population growth. They might skimp a bit on the safety features...

[mad jew]

Don't buy cars from a country that is attempting to check its population growth. They might skimp a bit on the safety features...


Nice. :D

[Kobushi]

wow....I half expected the air bag to fill with Jiffy Pop like that old SNL skit.

[Macmaniac]

Wow, I am speechless, how can you engineer something so bad...... I think this is the only thing that will save the US from Chinese domination is car crashes...

[jessica.]

This horrifies me. I'm curious as to why they won't scrap this for good and start over.

[ham_man]

Holy smokes. That thing got ripped down to its original parts. Buyer be ware indeed... :eek:

[joepunk]

Uh, take a look around. Are you sure that's heaven?If there is a heaven I would like to think that I am going. Even though I probably could never get past the pearly gates anyway ;)

[ZoomZoomZoom]

holywtfbbqcakes

can probably kill the passengers by backing into a mailbox.

[portent]

The Feds say that any car sold in the US must pass a minimum crash test (dummies "survive" a crash at 30MPH with no seatbelts).

The dummy survived a 30MPH side impact...and side crashes are usually worse than frontal crashes...so...

It may well be that these SUVs meet or exceed US Federal safety standards!

(Just supposing; there's a lot of assumptions in this post.)

[AoWolf]

The Feds say that any car sold in the US must pass a minimum crash test (dummies "survive" a crash at 30MPH with no seatbelts).

The dummy survived a 30MPH side impact...and side crashes are usually worse than frontal crashes...so...

It may well be that these SUVs meet or exceed US Federal safety standards!

(Just supposing; there's a lot of assumptions in this post.)

I don't know. I don't think they are so eager to sell chinese cars over here and if these get a bag rep they will sell poorly.

[maya]

Do I really want my car/SUV with a label "Made in China"? :eek: :) :D

If that Dummy had to say anything it would say,"Get me the hell out of this crash test." ;) :D

[Toreador93]

Holy Mother of God! That air bag did nothing! That thing must be made of foil or something!

[maya]

Holy Mother of God! That air bag did nothing! That thing must be made of foil or something!

Japanese cars used to have the same crash tests way back in the days (early 90's), from what I remember. ;) :)

That was due in part due to a short front end where the engine had resided, and the body of the cabin was not constructed with proper cash folds, etc...

Its a whole different story now. :)

[Counterfit]

If there is a heaven I would like to think that I am going. Even though I probably could never get past the pearly gates anyway ;)
Well, perhaps. But I doubt seeing such a horrific crash test would be enough to get you there... :confused:

[snkTab]

Holy Mother of God! That air bag did nothing! That thing must be made of foil or something!

Actually the airbag, did a nice job of forcing the head to go behind the steering wheel.

[Les Kern]

Why did they even BOTHER to but an airbag in?
Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Krusty sells out to get a free Canyonero (which is not suitable for highway or offroad driving. May burst into flames for no obvious reason)
Canyon-AIR-OOOOOHHH!

[Lacero]

Not looking too good for Chinese car makers' reputation. Korea is still struggling with perceived lack of quality from their car lines since their initial debut. Kia and Daewoo actually make nice quality cars, but really ********* up with their earlier models.

The Chinese are going to take at least 20 years to get the same reputation for quality and safety as the Japanese from the American consumer.

[snkTab]

Korean Hyundia is really kicking butt quality wise. Even stealing some awards from Toyota.

[cheekyspanky]

I guess this is pretty much what happens in a normal car, suv and so on at 60mph - and most older cars over 10 years old.


The design seems to be a complete rip off of a Vauxhall Frontera (as well as other sister cars from the GM group) so it's 10 - 15 year old technology the design seems to be based on.

[aplasticspork]

I guess this is pretty much what happens in a normal car, suv and so on at 60mph - and most older cars over 10 years old.

oh come now, our volvo station wagon is 13 years old and it was hit by someone going 40+mph when it was stopped (the someone was in a car about the size of that SUV), and my dad survived with no injuries. i mean granted, the car had $10,000 worth of damage, but we could still drive it to the volvo repair place the next day :p ;)

--andrzej

[Dont Hurt Me]

Made in China use to mean POS, not much has changed my view of that and the iMacs G5 history isnt helping things. This SUV is more of the same. Made in China. :rolleyes:

[jdechko]

Man, I got chills from watching those videos.

[njstaffer]

That is unbelievable...

I'd rather be in a Model T - at least I'd be ejected from the car instead of having my face ripped off by the dashboard... :(

Don't buy cars from a country that is attempting to check its population growth. They might skimp a bit on the safety features...


Good thinking! :p

[njstaffer]

[QUOTE=cheekyspanky]I guess this is pretty much what happens in a normal car, suv and so on at 60mph - and most older cars over 10 years old.[QUOTE]


I would watch what you say!

I own a 92' Camaro and my father has had 3 different models of Grand Marquis '83, '86, '92. All made out of pure American Steel.

60mph accident would result in zero injuries, except for maybe some burns from the coffee spilling in your lap. :)

[takao]

actually the ADAC (german automobile club who made the tests just for the record) said that the landwind results were the worst since they are doing tests on their own .. since the early 1980... every other car was safer...and they test a lot.. according to them the safety is on the standard of like 30 to 40 years ago....
they showed a mercedes M class test to show the difference... with the MB even the windshield was intact after the crash

[Rod Rod]

Maybe the Chinese will do better for MG Rover (http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22749-1785186,00.html) than what they've done for the Landwind. Chinese automakers would be well advised to outsource engineering work. China used to have a reputation for reverse-engineering things such as British fighter planes and such but I suppose blatantly reverse-engineering autos would bring negative trade consequences for them.

[Wes]

Anybody have comparable videos of a car that got a 5 star rating being crash tested?

[Don't panic]

I give the chinese 5 more years in R&D before they make a killer SUV deal.

this one seems a killer allright

[cheekyspanky]

Well this is a photo of the newest shape VW Golf impacting at 40mph. It was awarded 5 stars by EuroNCAP.

http://www.adamwilliams.co.uk/image_links/vwgolfncap.jpg

..and guess what I drive..

http://www.adamwilliams.co.uk/image_links/VWGolf.jpg

Still wouldn't fancy crashing...!

[krollster]

If I was an American I wouldn't be too quick to criticise car makers from other countries. The safety record of many cars from the US has been questionable in the past. You only need to look back to the Chrysler Voyager from the 90's to see an example of a vehicle that scored 0 on at least one element (the front) of the NCAP test.

[yg17]

Korean Hyundia is really kicking butt quality wise. Even stealing some awards from Toyota.


Yep. My Hyundai gives me no problems. My tiny Hyundai coupe even held up pretty damn well getting rear ended by a jeep grand cherokee.

[snkTab]

notice on the VW the tire doesn't get injected into your stomach like the chinese one. watch the video again

[DakotaGuy]

Anybody have comparable videos of a car that got a 5 star rating being crash tested?

Here are some links to different SUVs and other vehicles foreign and domestic. Weight and size wise the Explorer, 4 Runner, and Pilot are some good examples. You can look at all the different models and see how well they do. I noticed some were slamming American cars as being unsafe, but you can see in the video that the Explorer did well, just as good as the Japanese models. Now watch some of these clips and then compare them to the Chinese SUV. I can promise you would pick these over it!

The page even has cars and pickups so you have a whole bunch of fun videos of vehicles getting all smashed up!

http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp?section=safe&story=crashRatings&subject=crash

[cheekyspanky]

I own a 92' Camaro and my father has had 3 different models of Grand Marquis '83, '86, '92. All made out of pure American Steel.

60mph accident would result in zero injuries, except for maybe some burns from the coffee spilling in your lap. :)

I have a video waiting on yousendit of a (remote controlled) crash test shown on British TV last year. A BMW 5 Series and a Volvo (900 model I think) both about 10 years old hitting each other at 70mph. I'm pretty confident that coffee burns would be the least of you worries if you were in a head on accident at 60mph+!

I'm not sure if i'm allowed to post a link of this type, so if anyone wants to see the video (about 50mb) send me a pm and i'll send you the link.

[DakotaGuy]

I'm pretty confident that coffee burns would be the least of you worries if you were in a head on accident at 60mph+!

A 40MPH event into a barrier is considered serious. Most head-ons happen at around that speed or less. There is the braking factor and many times they happen on streets where the speed limits are lower.

Of course, that is not always the case and when you get into the high speed frontal collisions there is a point where no design, no matter how good, can withstand the impact. Both vehicles moving at a steady 60MPH is 120MPH of crash energy almost beyond the physical limitations of vehicle design.

I notice that many of the vehicles need improvement on the side impact test. Of course they did not test the Chinese SUV on side impact so we have nothing to compare these tests with.

[Chip NoVaMac]

GM announced today that the Jiangling Landwind SUV would be their prime SUV to meet the needs of the cost conscience US market.

[DakotaGuy]

GM announced today that the Jiangling Landwind SUV would be their prime SUV to meet the needs of the cost conscience US market.

Well they have already started with a Chinese supplied engine in the Chevy Equinox. What's ironic however, is it's twin, the Saturn Vue has an engine supplied by Honda in it.

[wwooden]

Well, I am glad they found this out before it got to the market. This is the reason why they do these tests. I understand why everyone is shocked but to me it is most important that they can see this now, before any one gets hurt.

[Chip NoVaMac]

Well they have already started with a Chinese supplied engine in the Chevy Equinox. What's ironic however, is it's twin, the Saturn Vue has an engine supplied by Honda in it.

OT - But how soon do we se see engines, cars, cameras, and the such being made in Africa?Just how many low labor places are left in this world.

I just talked with my optometrist today. Many frames that he got from Italy, re now coming from Chinia. At a $5 higher price. Wonder who is profiting now?

[stubeeef]

OT - But how soon do we se see engines, cars, cameras, and the such being made in Africa?Just how many low labor places are left in this world.

I just talked with my optometrist today. Many frames that he got from Italy, re now coming from Chinia. At a $5 higher price. Wonder who is profiting now?

very uncharacteristic typos there chipster, dipping in the Veeno?
:p

[Chip NoVaMac]

very uncharacteristic typos there chipster, dipping in the Veeno?
:p

LOL. Nope, just trying to do too many things at one time I guess.
:D

[Counterfit]

Of course, that is not always the case and when you get into the high speed frontal collisions there is a point where no design, no matter how good, can withstand the impact. Both vehicles moving at a steady 60MPH is 120MPH of crash energy almost beyond the physical limitations of vehicle design.
I suppose this should be clarified as "passenger vehicle design", as most top-level open wheel race cars (IRC, ChampCar, F1) are design to protect the driver in very hard crashes. Think losing the back end in a turn at Indy, at 200+MPH, backing into the wall, and walking away. There have been a few instances in recent years in F1 where nothing but the survival cell (the structure around the driver, designed to protect him/her in almost any accident) was left. Of course, such design isn't practical in the least for day to day passenger use.