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Jan 2, 2013, 08:55 AM
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Over the past several months, we've been following the progress of iPhone5mod (http://www.iphone5mod.com), one of several companies that have developed unauthorized versions (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/29/inside-an-unofficial-third-party-lightning-connector-production-facility/) of Apple's new Lightning connector, allowing them to launch a number of accessories, adapters, and cables for customers frustrated by the slow pace of development on official solutions.

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iPhone5mod is now launching an interesting new product today in the form of an ultrathin keyboard/game controller for the iPhone 5. The $49.90 EX Hybrid Game Controller (http://iphone5mod.com/shop/ex-hybrid-controller-for-iphone-5/) consists of a thin back cover for the iPhone that provides magnetic attachment for a pair of 2-mm thick aluminum plates: one offering a keyboard and a second containing gamepad controls. The plates also include integrated batteries for up to 40 hours of active use, with a separate charging station for the plates included in the package.

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Article Link: iPhone5mod Launches Ultrathin Keyboard and Game Controller for iPhone 5 (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/02/iphone5mod-launches-ultrathin-keyboard-and-game-controller-for-iphone-5/)



Oneness
Jan 2, 2013, 09:05 AM
The extra battery life is more enticing than the keyboard/game controller.

Christoffee
Jan 2, 2013, 09:06 AM
I prefer the will.i.am one.

Banyan Bruce
Jan 2, 2013, 09:06 AM
The Psion reincarnated. I loved my Psion.

genovelle
Jan 2, 2013, 09:10 AM
Cool! This is why the iPhone trumps Google phones. Having one form factor that won't get dumped every 6 months means that companies can create very special accessories and know they have time to market and recoup their investment. 3 years minimum 5, 5s, and then kept at least one year after the next generation is released at a lower price. The benefit for owners is not only do they get a new phone via next generation software updates which are rare on the Google side, they can use accessories like these to customize their hardware.

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I prefer the will.i.am one.
I thought that was a camera upgrade.

mac1984user
Jan 2, 2013, 09:14 AM
The photos are hilarious: 'Charge OK!', 'Vertical OK!', Game Controller OK!'

It's an interesting idea, but it doesn't look to be a very polished product.

flashflooder
Jan 2, 2013, 09:14 AM
The extra battery life is more enticing than the keyboard/game controller.

it doesn't add battery life to your phone, they're talking about the battery life of the accessory itself.

hipnetic
Jan 2, 2013, 09:15 AM
The extra battery life is more enticing than the keyboard/game controller.I think the battery life quoted is for powering the (presumably Bluetooth) plates, not for adding supplemental power to the iPhone. In order to power the iPhone, it would need to connect to the Lightning port in some way, which these do not appear to do.

The video doesn't show them actually *using* these things to type or play games. Is this just a proof-of-concept right now?

Arcady
Jan 2, 2013, 09:16 AM
Please keep your giant magnetic device away from my credit cards.

Thank you.

DOUGHNUT
Jan 2, 2013, 09:18 AM
I don't know about this. You're holding onto your phone by a magnet. I'm sure it can easily come loose. I don't know know if I'd trust it

kjs862
Jan 2, 2013, 09:20 AM
Too late to the game I think. But cool idea.

SuperMatt
Jan 2, 2013, 09:21 AM
This device is trying to do too much.

hutch34
Jan 2, 2013, 09:29 AM
The benefit for owners is not only do they get a new phone via next generation software updates which are rare on the Google side, they can use accessories like these to customize their hardware.

Well the part about Google just isn't true.

Actually, their software upgrades for their Nexus phones are usually better than an iOS updates because they don't drop features for the older model just to differentiate. They're certainly not any less frequent than iOS updates are either.

For example, not including Siri on the iPhone 4 when iOS came out with the update.

I agree on the hardware accessories part though.

odditie
Jan 2, 2013, 09:35 AM
This thing looks absolutely horrible.

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Well the part about Google just isn't true.

Actually, their software upgrades for their Nexus phones are usually better than an iOS updates because they don't drop features for the older model just to differentiate. They're certainly not any less frequent than iOS updates are either.

For example, not including Siri on the iPhone 4 when iOS came out with the update.

I agree on the hardware accessories part though.

Right, there is a difference between google's intent with updates and what Samsung, HTC, etc do with them.

Simplicated
Jan 2, 2013, 09:37 AM
Attaches magnetically... I wonder what impact does it have on the magnetometer.

ArtOfWarfare
Jan 2, 2013, 09:41 AM
Well the part about Google just isn't true.

Actually, their software upgrades for their Nexus phones are usually better than an iOS updates because they don't drop features for the older model just to differentiate. They're certainly not any less frequent than iOS updates are either.

For example, not including Siri on the iPhone 4 when iOS came out with the update.

I agree on the hardware accessories part though.

Google's official data on Android version distribution:

http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

Note that over 50% of devices are running Gingerbread, which was released in 2010.

CiWill
Jan 2, 2013, 10:14 AM
This thing looks absolutely horrible.

Maybe but I doubt most people would be too bothered by that if it was functional. Saying that, I'm still gonna wait for the bladepad. There are no analog sticks to be found in this product and for they type of games I play, I would be better off using the touchscreen

This device is trying to do too much.

How exactly? It's either a game controller or a keyboard. If you don't play games you don't have to carry around the controller and if you're happy with on-screen keyboards you can do without the keyboard attachment. I don't see how you can say it's trying to do too much when it's only offering you 2 additional features...

it doesn't add battery life to your phone, they're talking about the battery life of the accessory itself.

If there was a 2mm thick back cover that slotted into my lightning connector adding 40 hours of battery life that would be quite enticing though. That would arguably do more for portable iOS gaming than a controller

extricated
Jan 2, 2013, 10:20 AM
The photos are hilarious: 'Charge OK!', 'Vertical OK!', Game Controller OK!'


Agreed.
Moreoever, in my view "Magnet = NOT OK!"

sulpfiction
Jan 2, 2013, 11:49 AM
The video doesn't show them actually *using* these things to type or play games. Is this just a proof-of-concept right now?

I'm willing to bet that the slight delay would be exchushiating. They look pretty cool (I guess), but a total fail in real world use. The iphone keyboard works very well as is. I can't imagine a scenario where I would feel the need to snap on a physical keyboard rather then just type in landscape on the phone. The game controller might come in handy if the response time was dead on.

TMar
Jan 2, 2013, 12:17 PM
Please keep your giant magnetic device away from my credit cards.

Thank you.

Modern credit cards can't be degaussed by even rare earth magnets...

Agreed.
Moreoever, in my view "Magnet = NOT OK!"

Why?

hutch34
Jan 2, 2013, 12:26 PM
Google's official data on Android version distribution:

http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

Note that over 50% of devices are running Gingerbread, which was released in 2010.

Yes, but there is a difference between a Nexus android phone and the other manufacturers android phones. You'll notice I mentioned Nexus specifically.

For example, the Nexus S (which was released in 2010) got the most current 4.2 update and it doesn't cripple any software features for it either.

The Nexus S can do the same things software-wise that a brand-new Nexus 4 can do.

Also, most of those phones that are on 2.1 are there because of manufacturer choice and not because of Google's choice.

Blue Fox
Jan 2, 2013, 12:37 PM
I like this. I would only want the controler option though, for when I'm playing old games like Sonic the Hedgehog or something like that.

Christoffee
Jan 2, 2013, 12:42 PM
I thought that was a camera upgrade.

Also with a rather fetching keyboard.

rmwebs
Jan 2, 2013, 12:42 PM
Is macrumors getting kickbacks from these guys or something? Every time iPhone5mod posts an update, it appears on Macrumors. :rolleyes:

They arent even the only ones doing iPhone 5 products anymore. You can pick them up everywhere. I grabbed a lightning cable from Play.com for £2.99 - works fine and looks identical to the Apple one.

ArtOfWarfare
Jan 2, 2013, 12:51 PM
Yes, but there is a difference between a Nexus android phone and the other manufacturers android phones. You'll notice I mentioned Nexus specifically.

For example, the Nexus S (which was released in 2010) got the most current 4.2 update and it doesn't cripple any software features for it either.

The Nexus S can do the same things software-wise that a brand-new Nexus 4 can do.

Also, most of those phones that are on 2.1 are there because of manufacturer choice and not because of Google's choice.

As a developer, I really couldn't care less who's fault it is, the fact of the matter is, I have to make a choice between supporting the majority of devices meaning I have to resort to API 8 or I can make life easier and only support API ~12. (I can't remember where the exact API version cutoffs are.)

Sardonick007
Jan 2, 2013, 01:28 PM
Ok. The magnetic thing, wicked cool. Now make a magnetic face protector and we're in business. Nice idea.

SnowLeopard2008
Jan 2, 2013, 01:44 PM
It looks cool but I'm not sure how it translates to in real life usage.

hutch34
Jan 2, 2013, 01:52 PM
As a developer, I really couldn't care less who's fault it is, the fact of the matter is, I have to make a choice between supporting the majority of devices meaning I have to resort to API 8 or I can make life easier and only support API ~12. (I can't remember where the exact API version cutoffs are.)

I think we're getting off track here. I was never referring to any developer's difficulties. I was speaking strictly on the platform itself: Android or iOS.

I was merely pointing out the fact that everything that is included in the newest version of Android that Google pushes, is in fact available on the previous generation of phones.

What I was pointing out is that Google does not purposely cripple new software updates for older phones- which is something that we see Apple do on iOS devices.

I'm not arguing that people should go out and buy an Android phone because of this (I'm a happy iPhone owner), but I don't think it's fair or accurate to say that Android's update cycle is infrequent or limiting when actually iOS updates are more likely to limit you and make you want to go purchase a new phone simply because of a new feature that they did not enable for a previous phone. (Siri as one example).

superman23
Jan 2, 2013, 02:18 PM
Cool! This is why the iPhone trumps Google phones. Having one form factor that won't get dumped every 6 months means that companies can create very special accessories and know they have time to market and recoup their investment. 3 years minimum 5, 5s, and then kept at least one year after the next generation is released at a lower price. The benefit for owners is not only do they get a new phone via next generation software updates which are rare on the Google side, they can use accessories like these to customize their hardware.[COLOR="#808080"]

these devices are not certified by Apple. but Chinese companies can get away with it

if a U.S. company* has this idea they'll spend six figures and 2 years trying to get Apple to approve it. then it gets released and everyone laughs because it only works with the last version of the phone.

*Unless you're Bose or B&O then you get a heads up

knemonic
Jan 2, 2013, 02:23 PM
I think we're getting off track here. I was never referring to any developer's difficulties. I was speaking strictly on the platform itself: Android or iOS.

I was merely pointing out the fact that everything that is included in the newest version of Android that Google pushes, is in fact available on the previous generation of phones.

What I was pointing out is that Google does not purposely cripple new software updates for older phones- which is something that we see Apple do on iOS devices.

I'm not arguing that people should go out and buy an Android phone because of this (I'm a happy iPhone owner), but I don't think it's fair or accurate to say that Android's update cycle is infrequent or limiting when actually iOS updates are more likely to limit you and make you want to go purchase a new phone simply because of a new feature that they did not enable for a previous phone. (Siri as one example).

It seems that you're forgetting that Apple is both the software and hardware manufacture. Google is, currently the software manufacturer, hence the reason their stock OS is put out with all features. It is the 3rd party manufacturer that decides what is capable of running on their phones or not, or to upgrade old phones with the latest features. I can guarantee you there are plenty of Android phones that are not up to date with the latest Google offerings or are capable of running some of their latest offerings. Stop comparing Apple to Google, cause they're not apples to apples.

ReallyBigFeet
Jan 2, 2013, 02:31 PM
The problem with all these gaming controller add-on's is that a) there are no standards for gamepads in iOS and b) there are too many different types out there, with perhaps the iCade from Ion being the only one with any decent traction. All of them require gaming developers to either write their games to support the peripheral (and this possibly requires licensing a SDK to do so, and/or agreeing to some revenue share with the game pad SDK provider) or to go back and add it on later.

While the iOS gaming market is quite large, the gaming market that owns any particular gaming peripheral is but a fraction of that. And with games going for $1, there's just not enough margin in there to fiddle around with supporting a device that nets you a whopping extra 4 paying customers.

Too bad really. I wish Apple would have released a bluetooth gaming standard or something natively in iOS. Same situation exists for digital stylus support, unfortunately, but at least you can use anyone's capacitive stylus or your finger. No SDK required in that case.

hutch34
Jan 2, 2013, 02:47 PM
It seems that you're forgetting that Apple is both the software and hardware manufacture. Google is, currently the software manufacturer, hence the reason their stock OS is put out with all features. It is the 3rd party manufacturer that decides what is capable of running on their phones or not, or to upgrade old phones with the latest features. I can guarantee you there are plenty of Android phones that are not up to date with the latest Google offerings or are capable of running some of their latest offerings. Stop comparing Apple to Google, cause they're not apples to apples.


I understand this, but I was referring to the Nexus line of phones.

If you look at Google's Nexus line of phones, where they do have control, they are up to date software wise without crippling features.

I understand they're not the same- but the comment I originally replied to in this thread was not accurate.

Richdmoore
Jan 2, 2013, 03:45 PM
The problem with all these gaming controller add-on's is that a) there are no standards for gamepads in iOS and b) there are too many different types out there, with perhaps the iCade from Ion being the only one with any decent traction. All of them require gaming developers to either write their games to support the peripheral (and this possibly requires licensing a SDK to do so, and/or agreeing to some revenue share with the game pad SDK provider) or to go back and add it on later.

While the iOS gaming market is quite large, the gaming market that owns any particular gaming peripheral is but a fraction of that. And with games going for $1, there's just not enough margin in there to fiddle around with supporting a device that nets you a whopping extra 4 paying customers.

Too bad really. I wish Apple would have released a bluetooth gaming standard or something natively in iOS. Same situation exists for digital stylus support, unfortunately, but at least you can use anyone's capacitive stylus or your finger. No SDK required in that case.

Exactly. I purchased a gamer duo (only works with specific Gameloft games) and it works great. It is exactly what is needed for Nova 3, a real controller. I would run out tomorrow and purchase an apple blessed controller in a heartbeat.

locoboi187
Jan 2, 2013, 04:18 PM
It seems that you're forgetting that Apple is both the software and hardware manufacture. Google is, currently the software manufacturer, hence the reason their stock OS is put out with all features. It is the 3rd party manufacturer that decides what is capable of running on their phones or not, or to upgrade old phones with the latest features. I can guarantee you there are plenty of Android phones that are not up to date with the latest Google offerings or are capable of running some of their latest offerings. Stop comparing Apple to Google, cause they're not apples to apples.

Apple is NOT a hardware company. Jobs specifically stated this. They are a software company that is involved in the design process of their products. Samsung & Foxconn mainly manufacture their hardware such as screens, CPU, battery, etc. Apple may have designed their processors but they do not manufacture them. 3rd party venders do and Apple pays a premium to make manufactures do specifically what they ask them to do. There is no Apple factory that produces our products. Foxconn is widely known to manufacture Apple's hardware for the iPhone and assemble them.

Example: http://wallstcheatsheet.com/trading-markets/surprise-forget-the-hardware-apple-is-a-software-company.html/

ReallyBigFeet
Jan 2, 2013, 04:49 PM
Exactly. I purchased a gamer duo (only works with specific Gameloft games) and it works great. It is exactly what is needed for Nova 3, a real controller. I would run out tomorrow and purchase an apple blessed controller in a heartbeat.

Same here. My kids bought me the Atari Arcade stick controller for my iPad in December 2011 and it works just as advertised for all the Atari classic games in the Atari Arcade game pack. And it works with exactly ZERO other games beyond that. Its a nice, sturdy and attractive paperweight otherwise. I actually think its a better design than the iCade (in fact, Ion copied the design for the 'lite' version of their iCade).

I was actually somewhat intrigued by the large number of 'gaming devices' available at Toys R Us over the holidays when out shopping for my nephew. You can get everything from fishing rod simulators, lazer tag gun devices (from Nerf no less) and even full-size piano keyboards that interface to the iPad or iPhone now. And all of these are more or less single-use devices.

So summary: Really need a gaming interface standard. I wish Apple was working on one. It would really help solidify their ecosystem IMO if they would.

OlMighty
Jan 2, 2013, 07:40 PM
Modern credit cards can't be degaussed by even rare earth magnets...



Why?

Is that just for the strip on the back, or the chip too?

I was less concerned about the credit card than I was about the affect this might have on the iphone hard drive? If that's not an issue, I'd be very interested in the keyboard one.

Swift
Jan 2, 2013, 07:51 PM
But for the most part, they show that Steve made the right decision when he wanted a software keyboard. Look at all that extra metal you have to carry around. I remember tons of people saying, "I'll never leave my Blackberry because it has a real keyboard!" (And half the screen size.) Want to type quickly and accurately? Get a Bluetooth keyboard that fits your hands.

hipnetic
Jan 2, 2013, 08:08 PM
I kind of like the idea of the 60beat controller:
http://www.60beat.com/category_s/74.htm

It's a more traditional (comfortable-looking) game controller, along the lines of an XBox controller. It plugs into the headphone jack, which seems like a decent concept for future-compatibility. Not sure how good/bad the latency is.

negrohero9
Jan 2, 2013, 09:34 PM
I'd rather get this instead...it's cheaper too

Analog Kid
Jan 2, 2013, 09:41 PM
Modern credit cards can't be degaussed by even rare earth magnets...
I'm less worried about my cards getting degaussed and more worried about them getting re-gaussed.
I was less concerned about the credit card than I was about the affect this might have on the iphone hard drive? If that's not an issue, I'd be very interested in the keyboard one.
iPhone doesn't have a hard drive, only silicon storage. You don't have to worry about magnets affecting storage. They might mess up the phone's sense of North, however...

deannnnn
Jan 2, 2013, 09:53 PM
The photos are hilarious: 'Charge OK!', 'Vertical OK!', Game Controller OK!'

It's an interesting idea, but it doesn't look to be a very polished product.

You'd think they could have found someone who spoke English to help develop the marketing photos. Not someone who clearly has a misunderstanding of the word "okay."

superman23
Jan 3, 2013, 04:01 AM
You'd think they could have found someone who spoke English to help develop the marketing photos. Not someone who clearly has a misunderstanding of the word "okay."

i got a Galaxy Note today (dont worry its for work) and I've already noticed several examples of "Engrish" on both Samsung's printed materials and setup websites. seems to affect companies big & small :)

Porco
Jan 3, 2013, 06:18 AM
What an attractive* product! I don't really like the look of it.

*It's magnetic, see… ? Never mind.

Digital Skunk
Jan 3, 2013, 07:19 AM
Cool! This is why the iPhone trumps Google phones. Having one form factor that won't get dumped every 6 months....

Nice to see that some are still making things up, or are still choosing to remain uninformed/blinded.

APlotdevice
Jan 3, 2013, 07:41 AM
Nice to see that some are still making things up, or are still choosing to remain uninformed/blinded.

His comment isn't entirely incorrect. The iPhone kept largely the same design for three years, then the next design was kept for two years before intoducing another new design. In contrast to the "6 months" he stated.

Digital Skunk
Jan 3, 2013, 08:05 AM
His comment isn't entirely incorrect. The iPhone kept largely the same design for three years, then the next design was kept for two years before intoducing another new design. In contrast to the "6 months" he stated.

I agree, however, I never said he was wrong about the changing of device design across companies. He's wrong in mentioning that everyone but Apple changes designs frequently.

By the same margin, the GSI GSII and GSIII, Note I and Note II, as well as a decent amount of other handsets, have largely kept the same design and design aesthetics, making his/her point all the more moot.

robertosh
Jan 3, 2013, 11:09 AM
Another useless accesory...

Dan--
Jan 3, 2013, 11:42 AM
It looks cool but I'm not sure how it translates to in real life usage.

I agree about the doubts. You'd be typing on the light end of the of the configuration, holding the heavier iPhone out several inches while trying to manipulate the buttons on the keyboard. In the video, you can see the phone move around a fair amount.

I suspect it looks decent, but will not work well ergonomically.

PeopleTheseDays
Jan 3, 2013, 08:31 PM
Google's official data on Android version distribution:

http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

Note that over 50% of devices are running Gingerbread, which was released in 2010.

He said NEXUS devices.

iGrip
Jan 3, 2013, 08:54 PM
companies that have developed unauthorized versions (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/11/29/inside-an-unofficial-third-party-lightning-connector-production-facility/) of Apple's new Lightning connector

I hope that Apple sues these guys off the face of the earth!






/s

Digital Skunk
Jan 3, 2013, 08:58 PM
He said NEXUS devices.

Nope, that doesn't matter. We need to post anything and everything that makes Android look bad. Even if its false and/or taken out of context.

Lil Chillbil
Jan 3, 2013, 09:18 PM
and yet I still don't have an iphone

chumawumba
Jan 10, 2013, 07:19 PM
Yes, but there is a difference between a Nexus android phone and the other manufacturers android phones. You'll notice I mentioned Nexus specifically.

For example, the Nexus S (which was released in 2010) got the most current 4.2 update and it doesn't cripple any software features for it either.

The Nexus S can do the same things software-wise that a brand-new Nexus 4 can do.

Also, most of those phones that are on 2.1 are there because of manufacturer choice and not because of Google's choice.

The S only made it to 4.1

M3talhammer
Jan 31, 2013, 08:13 AM
This product is perfect for people who dont want to leave the 1990´s behind them..

YoungTheKing
Feb 1, 2013, 10:49 AM
anyone receives the produce?