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brn2rnjk1
Jan 7, 2013, 01:29 PM
I have read the myriad of good articles on these but still confused on what (if any) would work for my needs. All I want to do is take notes at meetings that I would otherwise take on a legal pad. So, just needs to be clear on handwriting. Don't want issues that not all letters appear or anything like that. Also what stylus works best?

Don't really need conversion or the like to start with


Thanks



mattdeezy
Jan 7, 2013, 08:02 PM
I have read hundreds of threads and articles on this and tested heaps of apps and half a dozen stylus' and have concluded;

App: Notability
Stylus: Wacom Bamboo Stylus Duo

Luis2004
Jan 8, 2013, 12:06 AM
I too have read a thousand articles and have tested apps beyond number, and my wisdom says:

Best App: Noteshelf

Best stylus: Boxwave Evernote mesh stylus

GerritV
Jan 8, 2013, 01:27 AM
Noteshelf, beyond a doubt - I use it constantly.
It's highly responsive, so for quick and short notes I don't use the zoom.
When taking notes during long meetings, I do use the zoom. Surprised each time how it makes even my handwriting look good and... readable.

Bamboo Stylus is very good. I recently got a Maglus, which takes some getting used to. So far, I prefer the Bamboo for sketching and the Maglus for writing.

robdam1001
Jan 8, 2013, 11:06 AM
SO MANY threads asking this same thing.

App: Remarks or Notability

Stylus: Maglus or Jot Pro (both are magnetic)

jojoba
Jan 8, 2013, 12:33 PM
App: Notability
Stylus: Wacom Bamboo Stylus Duo

Agree with this. I really like Notability, I've written about how I use it here (http://macademise.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/hand-writing-on-the-ipad-note-taking-with-notability/).

Luis2004
Jan 8, 2013, 12:51 PM
Notability is fine for writing notes. But if you want to annotate PDFs, it blows because it lags on rendering PDF pages when scrolling. It drove me nuts.

Also, the UI is awful. I love Noteshelf's, well, note shelf.

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SO MANY threads asking this same thing.

App: Remarks or Notability

Stylus: Maglus or Jot Pro

I've wanted to try Jot Pro for a long time, but scared to death that it will scratch my iPad. I don't use screen protectors, and some of the reviews on Amazon mentioned fine scratches because of it. . . .also that it's loud on the glass, with a clicking sound, and that it also gets "stuck" if you have a screen protector on.

jojoba
Jan 9, 2013, 03:34 AM
Notability is fine for writing notes. But if you want to annotate PDFs, it blows because it lags on rendering PDF pages when scrolling. It drove me nuts..

I prefer dedicated annotation apps for marking up PDFs. I use iAnnotate (http://macademise.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/iannotate-a-swiss-army-knife-for-marking-up-articles-paper-drafts-and-data/), but PDF Expert and GoodReader are also good alternatives.

TJ61
Jan 9, 2013, 09:25 AM
Hopefully this is helpful to the OP and not just a thread hijack:

I recently purchased my first and only stylus (Wacom Bamboo CS100K) for my iPad mini. I was very disappointed with how much pressure it took to be recognized. I tried it with a few different apps (Notability, SketchBook). I thought the problem might be my screen protector, so I peeled it back, and...no difference.

In contrast, I barely need to touch the screen with my finger in these apps to make a mark, even with a screen protector. The pressure required for a stylus would make it difficult to write fast.

I'd be interested to know what other stylus users think about pressure required to write. Did I get a bad stylus?

Regards,
Tom

GerritV
Jan 9, 2013, 12:40 PM
I recently got a Maglus. Not only heavier than the Bamboo, but also a very smooth tip - it's already my favorite above the Bamboo. The combination of weight and high quality tip calls for no pressure at all. At the same time, these very same qualities make the Maglus less fitting for drawing and sketching - at least to me. On those occasions, the light weight Bamboo allows more "swing of the wrist" so to speak.
Hope I make sense.

Luis2004
Jan 9, 2013, 01:27 PM
The BoxWave evertouch fiber-mesh tipped stylus requires barely any pressure to register. It's very responsive, and I use it for note taking (almost daily) and occasional sketching.

You should try it. It's less than $10 on amazon.

robdam1001
Jan 9, 2013, 03:09 PM
Notability is fine for writing notes. But if you want to annotate PDFs, it blows because it lags on rendering PDF pages when scrolling. It drove me nuts.

Also, the UI is awful. I love Noteshelf's, well, note shelf.

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I've wanted to try Jot Pro for a long time, but scared to death that it will scratch my iPad. I don't use screen protectors, and some of the reviews on Amazon mentioned fine scratches because of it. . . .also that it's loud on the glass, with a clicking sound, and that it also gets "stuck" if you have a screen protector on.

The new Jot Pros has a supposedly "silent" tip available. I have the original and it is loud.

http://www.amazon.com/Adonit-Dampening-Stylus-iPhone-Tablets/dp/B00931K1QK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357765807&sr=8-1&keywords=jot+pro+tip

Luis2004
Jan 9, 2013, 03:39 PM
The new Jot Pros has a supposedly "silent" tip available. I have the original and it is loud.

http://www.amazon.com/Adonit-Dampening-Stylus-iPhone-Tablets/dp/B00931K1QK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357765807&sr=8-1&keywords=jot+pro+tip

Yeah. . . .one of the reviews mentions "micro scratch hell". :eek:

Do you have any fine or micro scratches because of it?

robdam1001
Jan 10, 2013, 06:57 PM
Yeah. . . .one of the reviews mentions "micro scratch hell". :eek:

Do you have any fine or micro scratches because of it?

None that my 20/15 eyes can see, no.

I just pre-ordered the new Adonit Jot Touch with BT.

http://adonit.net/jot/touch/

MrPeripatetic
Jan 10, 2013, 08:16 PM
I have read the myriad of good articles on these but still confused on what (if any) would work for my needs. All I want to do is take notes at meetings that I would otherwise take on a legal pad. So, just needs to be clear on handwriting. Don't want issues that not all letters appear or anything like that. Also what stylus works best?

Don't really need conversion or the like to start with


Thanks

I have tried many of the popular note taking apps. Here's my ranking of the BEST note taking apps based on a combination of best inking engine (which is itself a combo of smoothness, speed, quality, customizability), UI, and features:

1. Goodnotes
2. Noteshelf
3. Upad
4. Notes Plus
5. Note Taker HD
6. Notability
7. DocAS

I consider all of the above to be very good. IMO these beat out the rest of the popular note taking apps (Ghostwriter, Remarks, etc.), which isn't to say that some of these others aren't decent.

TJ61
Jan 11, 2013, 10:09 AM
I have tried many of the popular note taking apps. Here's my ranking of the BEST note taking apps based on a combination of best inking engine (which is itself a combo of smoothness, speed, quality, customizability), UI, and features:

1. Goodnotes
2. Noteshelf
3. Upad
4. Notes Plus
5. Note Taker HD
6. Notability
7. DocAS

I consider all of the above to be very good. IMO these beat out the rest of the popular note taking apps (Ghostwriter, Remarks, etc.), which isn't to say that some of these others aren't decent.

Thanks for the recommendations -- I just tried Goodnotes, since they have a very functional and free lite version. I don't have my stylus on me, but using a finger it appears to have a noticeably faster response than Notability, the only app on your list I already have. For that, I would give it the nod for taking notes.

Regards,
Tom

Luis2004
Jan 11, 2013, 11:00 AM
Goodnotes has great stylus response and their "advance" feature in zoom mode is second to none. Very quick to respond.

I just wish they had better notebook and paper selections. Their shelf UI is gorgeous and nicer than Noteshelf, but Noteshelf has a wide selection of notebook covers (leather, etc) and paper which makes it extremely customizable.

Argh. If Goodnotes had a wider selection of notebooks and paper, it would literally be perfect.

Notes Plus actually has a zoom advance feature just like Goodnotes, but their UI is awful. Shelf is non-existent. Just terrible.

GerritV
Jan 11, 2013, 11:52 AM
Hey Luis, you got my curiosity peeked enough to open GoodNotes once again.
Good app indeed, I can even live with their list of paper types - the covers on the other hand are poorly designed. But in the end, the wrist protection of Noteshelf is something I don't want to be without.

Oh, and allow me to chime in on the Notes+ UI - what a waist of pixels all around.

Luis2004
Jan 11, 2013, 12:15 PM
Hey Luis, you got my curiosity peeked enough to open GoodNotes once again.
Good app indeed, I can even live with their list of paper types - the covers on the other hand are poorly designed. But in the end, the wrist protection of Noteshelf is something I don't want to be without.

Oh, and allow me to chime in on the Notes+ UI - what a waist of pixels all around.


Hold the phone! I just discovered you can import your own templates on notebook covers and paper in GoodNotes!! (I'm working on some in photoshop as we speak. . . .yes, it's a slow work day today.)

Goodnotes also has wrist protection; you can move the pane a little higher up than on Noteshelf.

And that bookshelf UI is gorgeous, with the glass shelves.

I don't know. I think Goodnotes has just won the battle for being my daily driver.

GerritV
Jan 11, 2013, 11:56 PM
Managed a template? Did you make it in iPad's Retina resolution?

Luis2004
Jan 12, 2013, 08:54 AM
I was able to import a notebook cover simply photoshopping a leather texture, but haven't gotten around to the paper yet.... There are instructions on how to do it for retina display on their website, goodnotesapp.com, under user guide, then "Templates". I will give it a try a little later.

Luis2004
Jan 14, 2013, 07:49 AM
Well I spent a considerable amount of time yesterday making a template for paper on Goodnotes, and it just isn't as seamless as Noteshelf. Also, while messing around with note taking and writing, I have come to the conclusion that Noteshelf is simply the best with ink selection, handwriting clarity and ease, and overall UI.

I'm done experimenting... Noteshelf is my daily driver, with my nice imported paper and covers.

Now if only I could make a decision on a stylus. I'm using the Boxwave mesh right now, but I hear a lot of good things about Bamboo.....

Taustin Powers
Jan 14, 2013, 08:47 AM
I finally tried Noteshelf this weekend and I was a little underwhelmed. Maybe I just don't know how to use it right?

- Typing text:
Is there a way to just type continuous text on the page, with automatic page breaks? I only found the "text box", which disappears off the page when you type too much.

- Handwriting Zoom Window Advance:
I don't like their technique of auto-advancing the zoom window. Notability (and I think Remarks) employ the same concept. Notes Plus and GoodNotes got this one right, IMO. Makes a huge difference for me. If handwriting were very important to me, I wouldn't even consider other apps.

- PDF's:
Still no importing / annotating PDF's, it looks like?


What I do like is their handwriting engine. It's very responsive and looks great.

I've been using both Notability and GoodNotes lately, depending on what I need to do. I really want to like Notes Plus for all its features, but the UI is not intuitive, and the performance is too sluggish on my iPad2.

Luis2004
Jan 14, 2013, 11:10 AM
I know your message wasn't directed at me personally, but I thought I'd respond regardless :):


- Typing text:
Is there a way to just type continuous text on the page, with automatic page breaks? I only found the "text box", which disappears off the page when you type too much.

I'm not sure about this, as I never use note taking apps to actually type. It's all handwriting for me. When I do need to type something out for any reason, I use Pages or the stock Notes app on iPad.

- Handwriting Zoom Window Advance:
I don't like their technique of auto-advancing the zoom window. Notability (and I think Remarks) employ the same concept. Notes Plus and GoodNotes got this one right, IMO. Makes a huge difference for me. If handwriting were very important to me, I wouldn't even consider other apps.

I, too, prefer the auto-advance feature in GoodNotes and Notes Plus. Haven't tried Remarks. You're right, it does make a huge difference, and I don't like the hesitation when you are ready for it to advance.

- PDF's:
Still no importing / annotating PDF's, it looks like?

Nope. It's a crappy oversight. iAnnotate is good for PDF annotation, but right now I'm using PDF Max Pro. Not as full featured as iAnnotate, but I like the feel of it a bit more.


What I do like is their handwriting engine. It's very responsive and looks great.

This is why I've decided to stick with it. If GoodNotes had customizable ink and a Calligraphy pen set (they call theirs "fountain pen" but it's not nearly as nice or realistic), I probably would have been tempted to stick with it. But they don't.

I've been using both Notability and GoodNotes lately, depending on what I need to do. I really want to like Notes Plus for all its features, but the UI is not intuitive, and the performance is too sluggish on my iPad2.

I used Notability when I first got the iPad (3rd generation), but what drove me nuts was the pdf rendering was sluggish. If it had images in it, it would all blank out for a second before rendering. I hated it. That's one reason I'm not so crazy about GoodNotes. They have the same problem, although not as bad as Notability.

I hated Notes Plus' UI layout.

AMC89
Jan 15, 2013, 04:08 PM
Just got noteshelf. So far so good. Happy with it

GerritV
Jan 16, 2013, 12:57 AM
I finally tried Noteshelf this weekend and I was a little underwhelmed. Maybe I just don't know how to use it right?

- Typing text:
Is there a way to just type continuous text on the page, with automatic page breaks? I only found the "text box", which disappears off the page when you type too much.

- Handwriting Zoom Window Advance:
I don't like their technique of auto-advancing the zoom window. Notability (and I think Remarks) employ the same concept. Notes Plus and GoodNotes got this one right, IMO. Makes a huge difference for me. If handwriting were very important to me, I wouldn't even consider other apps.

- PDF's:
Still no importing / annotating PDF's, it looks like?


What I do like is their handwriting engine. It's very responsive and looks great.

I've been using both Notability and GoodNotes lately, depending on what I need to do. I really want to like Notes Plus for all its features, but the UI is not intuitive, and the performance is too sluggish on my iPad2.

- Typing text: Noteshelf does not do automatic page breaks while using the Text tool.
- Zoom: give me 2 min in GoodNotes and I'll get used to their approach, and 2 min back into Noteshelf to feel OK with theirs again. Not that big a deal for me.
- Annotating pdf: IF this were to be my #1 need, I'd probably go for Remarks and take their notetaking ability along with it, and maybe forget about Noteshelf. At this moment though, making handwritten notes is my #1 activity.

I've recently tested some drawing apps like ProCreate and Paper. Thanks to it's highly responsive inking and well developped toolbox, NoteShelf could even become my drawing/sketching app...

AMC89
Jan 16, 2013, 01:40 AM
NoteShelf could even become my drawing/sketching app...

basically what I plan to use noteshelf for. I do a lot of measuring and usually end up with sketches on random bits of paper. With noteshelf I think I may be able to organise them!

ArdeliaPanfilov
Jan 24, 2013, 07:23 AM
Well, we live in a digital world and it's become much, much easier to carry a Notability for writing a notes.

Luis2004
Jan 24, 2013, 08:14 AM
Weird, but I went back to check out Upad, the very first PDF annotation app/notes app that I ever tried. They must have updated it because the handwriting is more realistic and smooth than I remember and the PDF highlighting is neater, too.

Their folders UI still isn't very appealing, but I do like their in-page look. Very easy to switch to read-only or full screen mode, and their tool selection is pretty extensive.

M-5
Jan 26, 2013, 05:35 PM
Weird, but I went back to check out Upad, the very first PDF annotation app/notes app that I ever tried. They must have updated it because the handwriting is more realistic and smooth than I remember and the PDF highlighting is neater, too.

Their folders UI still isn't very appealing, but I do like their in-page look. Very easy to switch to read-only or full screen mode, and their tool selection is pretty extensive.

I really like Upad and the ability to annotate PDFs as well as create regular notes. I also recently downloaded Noteshelf, and I like Noteshelf's UI much better, but you can't annotate PDFs. I also wish the zoom feature could zoom in closer, because in UPAD, you can get in very close and thus write extremely small, which I like.

What would make UPAD perfect for me would be:
- updated their UI a bit.
- Better file system organization. I wish it was more like a bookshelf how Noteshelf does it.
- upload your own photos as book covers, how Paper by 53 does it.
- a better app icon wouldn't hurt.
- more intuitive button icons. Sometimes I get confused as to what certain buttons do.
- they need to fix the text typing, and it's very difficult to type things towards the bottom of the page, because your keyboard ends up covering what you're typing.

Lindseystar
Jan 27, 2013, 02:41 AM
OMG every second thread here is about what apps for college and note taking. Give us a break already. Enough. Read one thread about it and that's it - its so redundant. It's funny how All the responses here this one has a better ink selection and this one has a better template - who cares ! what are you a playing a pr role for the apps

Who is in charge on this forum ?! just delete all of these threads already !

and just not to be rude..

I have already mention on other thread the great apps to use and must have in my opinion on any iPad.

Calculator
DropBox/SkyDrive
Notability
CloudWord
GoodReader
Email

Luis2004
Jan 27, 2013, 11:52 AM
OMG every second thread here is about what apps for college and note taking. Give us a break already. Enough. Read one thread about it and that's it - its so redundant. It's funny how All the responses here this one has a better ink selection and this one has a better template - who cares ! what are you a playing a pr role for the apps

Who is in charge on this forum ?! just delete all of these threads already !

and just not to be rude..

I have already mention on other thread the great apps to use and must have in my opinion on any iPad.

Calculator
DropBox/SkyDrive
Notability
CloudWord
GoodReader
Email

OMG I am so sick of people who hate thread topics that click into them anyway, clearly to start a dustup, since they have no interest in the conversation.

Like, gimme a break already!!! Omg!!!

Lindseystar
Jan 27, 2013, 06:36 PM
OMG I am so sick of people who hate thread topics that click into them anyway, clearly to start a dustup, since they have no interest in the conversation.

Like, gimme a break already!!! Omg!!!

Get a life..

Whats the point of having every second thread on the same subject, Obviously I got into this one to make it clear. I'm not starting anything against anyone, it's a point to bring up. But it feels like here many people trying to promote some apps on here by bringing up the same subject and put down other apps by saying this one has a better features etc.

AMC89
Jan 27, 2013, 06:57 PM
So you hate the thread because you feel people are promoting apps yet you promote the ones you use? Welcome to macrumours

Luis2004
Jan 28, 2013, 07:50 AM
Get a life..


I suddenly realize I'm probably arguing with a 13 year old. So in the spirit of responsible posting, I'll just go ahead and end the conversation here.

Have a good day at school and remember, don't trade away your string cheese. Unless they offer you a pudding. :)

Lindseystar
Jan 29, 2013, 01:14 AM
I suddenly realize I'm probably arguing with a 13 year old. So in the spirit of responsible posting, I'll just go ahead and end the conversation here.

Have a good day at school and remember, don't trade away your string cheese. Unless they offer you a pudding. :)


Or it seems like you and AMC89 trying to promote Noteshelf So much ! either you are the same guy, fake accounts or know each other ..Then ***** Noteshelf !

Notability is better.
Upad is better
Documents is better
Pages is better
note taker is better
you name it.. is better.
Now we can end the discussion. Have a good day.

Taustin Powers
Jan 29, 2013, 02:18 AM
Or it seems like you and AMC89 trying to promote Noteshelf So much ! either you are the same guy, fake accounts or know each other ..Then ***** Noteshelf !

Notability is better.
Upad is better
Documents is better
Pages is better
note taker is better
you name it.. is better.
Now we can end the discussion. Have a good day.


You could always choose to not read the threads that don't interest you, save yourself some time and spare us your whiny tantrums.

I, for one, am very happy to see so many discussions on note-taking apps. I enjoy reading people's experiences and opinions on each of them, what they are looking for in an app, which one works best of them, and why. It's informative and helpful to me.

Your mileage obviously varies, but no one is forcing you to read these posts.

Lindseystar
Jan 29, 2013, 03:22 AM
You could always choose to not read the threads that don't interest you, save yourself some time and spare us your whiny tantrums.

I, for one, am very happy to see so many discussions on note-taking apps. I enjoy reading people's experiences and opinions on each of them, what they are looking for in an app, which one works best of them, and why. It's informative and helpful to me.

Your mileage obviously varies, but no one is forcing you to read these posts.

Alright, Fine.. forget from what I have said. If you are all happy with it.. enjoy it. I'm sorry if I have insulted anyone.

AMC89
Jan 29, 2013, 01:28 PM
Only reading this now (was promoting noteshelf elsewhere). Made me chuckle.

RenoG
Jan 31, 2013, 10:07 AM
Ok so now that we got that out of the way....

Have we settled on a stylus specifically for writing?
Maglus is what I'm hearing in this thread as well as the mesh tip ones...

I'm about to pull the trigger on this stuff.

Luis2004
Jan 31, 2013, 11:12 AM
Ok so now that we got that out of the way....

Have we settled on a stylus specifically for writing?
Maglus is what I'm hearing in this thread as well as the mesh tip ones...

I'm about to pull the trigger on this stuff.

I have a Boxwave Ever touch that I like for sketching. But for handwriting, I think you're better off with something firm. I returned the Bamboo because it was too mushy... my Maglus should be here in a few days.

RenoG
Jan 31, 2013, 11:34 AM
I have a Boxwave Ever touch that I like for sketching. But for handwriting, I think you're better off with something firm. I returned the Bamboo because it was too mushy... my Maglus should be here in a few days.

I think I want to pick one of these up...Where are you getting yours?
Their website the only place to get it?

Luis2004
Jan 31, 2013, 12:18 PM
I think I want to pick one of these up...Where are you getting yours?
Their website the only place to get it?

Unfortunately yes.

Ali Corban
Feb 6, 2013, 09:57 PM
NotesPlus best for doing everything note taking downloading PDF and PowerPoint import/export. Also you can go back and forth from taking notes and browsing. I have a IPad Mini 16GB and a screen protector I use the Targus works great not much pressure needed and is quiet...tried Truglide stylus flows amazingly but very squeaky I noticed when I was taking notes during class...Bamboo I tried in bestbuy didn't like it mushy and needed much pressure

staccato83
Feb 7, 2013, 03:19 AM
I have a Boxwave Ever touch that I like for sketching. But for handwriting, I think you're better off with something firm. I returned the Bamboo because it was too mushy... my Maglus should be here in a few days.

I dislike the mushy feel of the Bamboo stylus as well. Apparently, there are new firm nibs that you can purchase to remedy the problem. Let us know how the Maglus turns out.

As far as handwriting apps go, I will have to stick with Noteshelf; it seems the most fluid for me.

Luis2004
Feb 7, 2013, 09:23 AM
I dislike the mushy feel of the Bamboo stylus as well. Apparently, there are new firm nibs that you can purchase to remedy the problem. Let us know how the Maglus turns out.

As far as handwriting apps go, I will have to stick with Noteshelf; it seems the most fluid for me.

After a few days, the Maglus seems like the best I've used so far, and I've had about 6 or 7 total.

Note shelf is great; I just wish you could customize the thickness of the pens. The thinnest fountain pen is still a bit too thick for my taste. I also wish you could import and annotate PDFs (the developer told me that they are working on it. Apparently the problem they're having is that when you export the PDF to another app or site, the output size is huge.)

But their handwriting engine and realism is excellent.

TJ61
Feb 7, 2013, 04:13 PM
I have a IPad Mini 16GB and a screen protector I use the Targus works great not much pressure needed and is quiet...tried Truglide stylus flows amazingly but very squeaky I noticed when I was taking notes during class...Bamboo I tried in bestbuy didn't like it mushy and needed much pressure

Your experience with the Bamboo sounds similar to mine, and I also have an iPad Mini with screen protector (though I tested the stylus with the screen protector off as well). Maybe I'll have to try the Targus, especially since they're easily accessible (sold at Target).

Thanks for the info!

Regards,
Tom

richimages
Feb 8, 2013, 10:10 AM
I have gone through three different styluses ... each switch being a vast improvement from the previous.

I currently use a mesh tipped stylus from Boxwave (right in image below) - as opposed to a rubber tipped stylus (left).

http://www.iphonejd.com/.a/6a010535fde333970c01676649916a970b-pi


A mesh tipped stylus glides accross the screen with effortless resistance. If you get a rubber tip - and especially if your screen is clean, then it will grip the screen - you'll find yourself trying to push the tip across the glass display with much resistance. A mesh type is a VAST improvement ... it glides across the screen very easy. It flexes a bit. Don't worry - it will not scratch your screen at all.

I feel that I could take notes all day long just as good as with a pen and paper - no more fatigue. :-)

From Amazon, the Boxwave that I have cost around $12.00 ( going from memory there ). There are many styles.

Good Luck with your decision, let me know what you decide.

Luis2004
Feb 8, 2013, 10:23 AM
I have gone through three different styluses ... each switch being a vast improvement from the previous.

I currently use a mesh tipped stylus from Boxwave (right in image below) - as opposed to a rubber tipped stylus (left).

Image (http://www.iphonejd.com/.a/6a010535fde333970c01676649916a970b-pi)


A mesh tipped stylus glides accross the screen with effortless resistance. If you get a rubber tip - and especially if your screen is clean, then it will grip the screen - you'll find yourself trying to push the tip across the glass display with much resistance. A mesh type is a VAST improvement ... it glides across the screen very easy. It flexes a bit. Don't worry - it will not scratch your screen at all.

I feel that I could take notes all day long just as good as with a pen and paper - no more fatigue. :-)

From Amazon, the Boxwave that I have cost around $12.00 ( going from memory there ). There are many styles.

Good Luck with your decision, let me know what you decide.

I too have the Boxwave mesh. It's pretty good, much easier to use over a long period of time than the basic Targus. I prefer the Maglus for writing (firm rubber tip, and just seems more accurate than any others I've tried), but the Boxwave is excellent.

Cptnodegard
Feb 8, 2013, 10:34 AM
I use:
App: Goodnotes
Stylus: Maglus or Wacom Bamboo

I want to use Notability, but there are two issues that made me hide it in a folder and ignore it. First off, it doesn't go into dual screen mode when connected to an external display, which is a dealbreaker when you're a teache.r Second, the zoom box has the detection box for moving the box at the end of the box, rather than at the beginning, which is what Goodnotes does. That means you have to write into the detection area, wait for it to move the zoom box, and the continue. In Goodnotes, you just continue writing from the beginning of the box.

Luis2004
Feb 8, 2013, 10:40 AM
I use:
App: Goodnotes
Stylus: Maglus or Wacom Bamboo

I want to use Notability, but there are two issues that made me hide it in a folder and ignore it. First off, it doesn't go into dual screen mode when connected to an external display, which is a dealbreaker when you're a teache.r Second, the zoom box has the detection box for moving the box at the end of the box, rather than at the beginning, which is what Goodnotes does. That means you have to write into the detection area, wait for it to move the zoom box, and the continue. In Goodnotes, you just continue writing from the beginning of the box.

Agreed. I like Notability's versatility, but I've realized that it is simply a Jack of all trades and Master of none. The zoom box isn't as good as other apps like Goodnotes. The pdf importation is a great feature, but the pdf pages lag horribly, especially if there are images or annotations.

And the folders UI is atrocious.

Ali Corban
Feb 8, 2013, 03:35 PM
Your experience with the Bamboo sounds similar to mine, and I also have an iPad Mini with screen protector (though I tested the stylus with the screen protector off as well). Maybe I'll have to try the Targus, especially since they're easily accessible (sold at Target).

Thanks for the info!

Regards,
Tom

no problem this just experience with a screen protector I'm sure without it the truglide would kick ass but deff the targus takes the cake and with the Smart Cover it clips on magnetically well if you find the sweet spot

TJ61
Feb 11, 2013, 03:39 PM
I just picked up the Targus stylus yesterday, and it's great! It works MUCH better than the Bamboo, which I think was probably defective, but not much worse than a second Bamboo that I tested later at Best Buy.

Like the Bamboo, the Targus tip is also hollow, but maybe not quite as squishy(?), though maybe it just doesn't get squished because it responds to a much lighter touch.

Anyway, after an initial poor experience, I've found a stylus that works as I envisioned it should. Thanks again, Ali!

Regards,
Tom

jojoba
Feb 12, 2013, 03:07 AM
I've just been testing the hand writing to text converstion capacities of 7NotesHD, Notes Plus and WritePad, I've written up my impressions here:

http://macademise.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/hand-writing-on-the-ipad-ii-hand-writing-to-text-conversion/

Saturn1217
Feb 28, 2013, 09:39 PM
Really glad I found this thread.

The idea of using a tablet to take handwritten notes occurred to me only yesterday like a little light bulb going off in my head. I don't even have an iPad (yet).

But I wanted to ask. Assuming you have a great stylus and the right note taking app how good is the handwritten note taking experience on an iPad?

I have approximately infinity notebooks/notepads taking up space on my desk at work. I use them to organize ideas, make lists, write plans for protocols (I work in a research lab) and take notes for lectures. I eventually lose track of all of them and sometimes those random notes are important.

Having all of that together in one place would be amazing. But can an iPad (which was never really designed with stylus input in mind) really replace my paper notebooks and notepads? I guess I just want to get a realistic idea of what other users think especially for taking free form notes as I often need to include diagrams or bullet points along with a lot of regular writing.

Thanks in advance :)

GerritV
Feb 28, 2013, 11:42 PM
Here's another thread full of suggestions ans comments on the topic:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1130772

To answer your question: IMHO an iPad can replace a pile of paper notebooks, it does for me. Look for a note taking app with a zoom box, a decent filing system, a sync like p.e. Dropbox, and a nice set of writing tools that covers your needs (pencil, pen, marker...).
After the obligatory testing, I went with Noteshelf and never regretted it. My favorite stylus for writing is the Maglus.
All together, I can safely say that note taking is the #1 purpose of my iPad.

EDIT
Just discovered TopNotes by Blue Tags is free for a limited period of time.

TJ61
Mar 1, 2013, 10:22 AM
Really glad I found this thread.

The idea of using a tablet to take handwritten notes occurred to me only yesterday like a little light bulb going off in my head. I don't even have an iPad (yet).

But I wanted to ask. Assuming you have a great stylus and the right note taking app how good is the handwritten note taking experience on an iPad?

I have approximately infinity notebooks/notepads taking up space on my desk at work. I use them to organize ideas, make lists, write plans for protocols (I work in a research lab) and take notes for lectures. I eventually lose track of all of them and sometimes those random notes are important.

Having all of that together in one place would be amazing. But can an iPad (which was never really designed with stylus input in mind) really replace my paper notebooks and notepads? I guess I just want to get a realistic idea of what other users think especially for taking free form notes as I often need to include diagrams or bullet points along with a lot of regular writing.

Thanks in advance :)
To add to GerritV's excellent comments:

Like you, I'm in a research position, and probably have just as many notebooks/notepads, plus one. ;) I just acquired my first iPad (mini) last Nov., and though I still haven't settled in on a handwriting notebook, whether or not I'll be able to replace the paper is largely up to me; I think the devices and the apps are capable enough.

I started with Notesy on my iPhone, which only allows plain text typewritten notes, but is bulletproof when it comes to syncing with DropBox. I can record some data in the lab, and know that it will be on my desktop to pull in to my electronic notebook. I still use it some on the iPad.

For handwritten notes with instant DropBox sync, Notability is good, but it has some other shortcomings that pushes me to GoodNotes. I'm still on the free version of that. You can still easily get your notes to DropBox, just not automatically. Both allow you to insert a text box in your notes, so when you want to go to town with a keyboard....

Along these lines, for a pdf reader with annotation, I have settled on GoodReader for keeping all my research papers and other pdf's in one place. It allows markups, including handwritten annotations. There are others in its class; iAnnotate comes to mind. Some note apps include pdf annotation capability, but I don't think they do as well with general pdf handling and organization.

Regards,
Tom

Cptnodegard
Mar 1, 2013, 05:45 PM
You can still easily get your notes to DropBox, just not automatically.

I thought the same, until someone pointed out that Goodnotes does indeed have an automatic Dropbox syncing feature. It works great and will sync either as PDF or proprietary goodnotes format

TJ61
Mar 1, 2013, 06:17 PM
I thought the same, until someone pointed out that Goodnotes does indeed have an automatic Dropbox syncing feature. It works great and will sync either as PDF or proprietary goodnotes format
That's great! How do you do it? Is that the "mirroring" option?

BTW, I liked your article on Notability vs. GoodNotes. I hadn't appreciated zoom boxes until I read it, and now consider them a critical component of a good note app.


Regards,
Tom

Cptnodegard
Mar 1, 2013, 06:29 PM
That's great! How do you do it? Is that the "mirroring" option?

BTW, I liked your article on Notability vs. GoodNotes. I hadn't appreciated zoom boxes until I read it, and now consider them a critical component of a good note app.


Regards,
Tom

Yup, the mirroring option. It was a comment on that exact article that made me aware of the feature, I've apparently missed the update that added it