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MacRumors
Jan 8, 2013, 09:06 AM
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Panasonic yesterday announced (http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prModelDetail?storeId=11301&catalogId=13251&itemId=692007&modelNo=Content01072013040339024&surfModel =Content01072013040339024) a new line of Smart Viera plasma HDTVs at CES. The company's 2013 lineup ranges from 42 to 65 inches and includes 16 models in five separate series of TVs. The TVs are compatible with iOS devices that let users share content between their iPhones or iPads and their TVs.Swipe & Share 2.0 -*a**connectivity enhancement that transforms the TV into a hub for streaming and sharing photo and video content seamlessly with Smartphone and Tablet devices.**Through Panasonic's proprietary VIERA Connect platform,*users can transfer personal photos and videos from their Android or iOS devices directly to the large screen with a simple swipe of the finger and transfer them back to their smart devices the same way.**Swipe & Share also enables sharing of user-generated photos and videos that are on the large screen with other Android or iOS devices.*(2013 VIERA ZT60, VT60, and ST60 Series)http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/01/1B5422128-panasonic-flagship-lcd-plasma.streams_desktop_large.jpg
Image courtesy of NBC Tech
The features resemble Apple TV and AirPlay, but NBC notes (http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/smart-tv-tricks-highlight-panasonics-new-viera-line-1B7863652) that Panasonic's TV allows users to share an image to the TV, edit it using an option Electronic Touch Pen accessory, and swipe it back to their iOS device.

Panasonic's lineup starts with the full HD 3D ZT60 with what Panasonic calls a "Beyond the Reference" level of picture quality, then moves to the lower-end VT60 and ST60 series and ends with the non-3D S60 and X60 series. There doesn't seem to be pricing information as of yet, but the line is planned to launch in February 2013.

Article Link: CES 2013: Panasonic Announces iOS-Compatible Smart Viera Plasma HDTV Lineup (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/08/ces-2013-panasonic-announces-ios-compatible-smart-viera-plasma-hdtv-lineup/)



Joe-Diver
Jan 8, 2013, 09:18 AM
Panasonic has some really nice products.

Eduardo1971
Jan 8, 2013, 09:26 AM
As someone with a 2008 model 50 inch Panasonic plasma televesion and is looking to upgrade to a 2013 Panasonic plasma TV-I must say I can't wait to see these new offerings in person.

Panasonic plasma's are some of the better TV's out in the market.

Seems like the rumours that Panasonic was leaving the TV business in 2013 was false!
:)

iMikeT
Jan 8, 2013, 09:31 AM
I all ready have iOS connectivity for my HDTV with my TV connected to it. Nevertheless, good for Panasonic for adding this feature for their lineup.

RenoG
Jan 8, 2013, 09:31 AM
As someone with a 2008 model 50 inch Panasonic plasma televesion and is looking to upgrade to a 2013 Panasonic plasma TV-I must say I can't wait to see these new offerings in person.

Panasonic plasma's are some of the better TV's out in the market.

Sounds like we have the same tv from the same year..Only thing is I have no real reason to change or upgrade from my sweet plasma to one of these new awesome ones..

kjs862
Jan 8, 2013, 09:35 AM
finally some love for ios rather than android.

charlieegan3
Jan 8, 2013, 09:40 AM
Panasonic has some really nice products.

Panasonic has some really nice televisions.

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finally some love for ios rather than android.

Android's getting all my loving.

Shearwater
Jan 8, 2013, 09:46 AM
I will be buying!!!

SilentLoner
Jan 8, 2013, 09:54 AM
Panasonic has some really nice televisions.

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Android's getting all my loving.

And?

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What's the presumed cost?

audio_inside
Jan 8, 2013, 09:58 AM
Panasonic and the other big TV manufacturers shouldn't waste their time trying to put a stake in the ground defining what a "smart" TV should be when the producers of adjunct boxes have shown themselves to be so much more creative and nimble (the Roku stick (http://www.roku.com/streamingstick) is my favorite new example.)

I've got a circa-2009 "Vieracast" Panasonic plasma and there's never been a single firmware update for it. If they think consumers are going to jump on board the current-year's vision without a realistic expectation of upgrades pushing their TV's technology forward - especially with a potential Apple TV on the horizon - they take us for even bigger suckers than we are.

CrystalPepsi
Jan 8, 2013, 10:29 AM
If they think consumers are going to jump on board the current-year's vision without a realistic expectation of upgrades pushing their TV's technology forward - especially with a potential Apple TV on the horizon - they take us for even bigger suckers than we are.

What sucks is, the best panels are put into the TVs with all the "Smart" features. So, we're forced to pay for the dual core processors, etc., just so we can get the nice panels. I bought a 2012 Panasonic 60ST50 a month ago - beautiful panel, wonderful TV. However, the Smart features are crap. I'm not going to play an old version of Angry Birds or use a crap web browser in the Viera portal or whatever they call it. I'm not going to use their crap netflix client. I'll use my cheap, refurb Roku XS with Plex, Netflix, Amazon streaming, etc.

The TV makers should just make high quality panels with HDMI inputs. Period.

chrmjenkins
Jan 8, 2013, 10:33 AM
And?

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What's the presumed cost?

60" ST60 is 1899.99 MSRP. 65" is 2799.99 MSRP. I would expect the VT and ZT upgrades to be 500 or so on average for each successive step.

What sucks is, the best panels are put into the TVs with all the "Smart" features. So, we're forced to pay for the dual core processors, etc., just so we can get the nice panels. I bought a 2012 Panasonic 60ST50 a month ago - beautiful panel, wonderful TV. However, the Smart features are crap. I'm not going to play an old version of Angry Birds or use a crap web browser in the Viera portal or whatever they call it. I'm not going to use their crap netflix client. I'll use my cheap, refurb Roku XS with Plex, Netflix, Amazon streaming, etc.

The TV makers should just make high quality panels with HDMI inputs. Period.

Two things going on: upsell and matching competitors' features.

zen
Jan 8, 2013, 10:39 AM
Excellent. Plasma is still the best TV tech, and Panasonic are still the best plasma manufacturers.

GuitarDTO
Jan 8, 2013, 10:46 AM
What sucks is, the best panels are put into the TVs with all the "Smart" features. So, we're forced to pay for the dual core processors, etc., just so we can get the nice panels. I bought a 2012 Panasonic 60ST50 a month ago - beautiful panel, wonderful TV. However, the Smart features are crap. I'm not going to play an old version of Angry Birds or use a crap web browser in the Viera portal or whatever they call it. I'm not going to use their crap netflix client. I'll use my cheap, refurb Roku XS with Plex, Netflix, Amazon streaming, etc.

The TV makers should just make high quality panels with HDMI inputs. Period.

Agreed, but it will never happen. 95% of the people buying TV's have no clue what they are really buying and it only takes a small % of suckers to make it worthwhile to the companies to charge extra for poorly done "Smart" features.. TV companies would be shooting themselves in the foot taking out the smart features, it would take away their reasons to charge more. If you look at TV technology they are constantly trying to force more down our throats that we don't really want. 3D, Smart features, thinness(although that was ok for awhile, but now I don't care about having a paper thin TV) and soon insanely high resolutions that won't matter to the majority. They'll include the features anyway to justify the high costs.

KdParker
Jan 8, 2013, 11:05 AM
Seems a little odd to make TVs compatable with certain OS's. I would just rather be able to connect to my TV no matter what phone I am using.

DrNeroCF
Jan 8, 2013, 11:05 AM
Panasonic and the other big TV manufacturers shouldn't waste their time trying to put a stake in the ground defining what a "smart" TV should be when the producers of adjunct boxes have shown themselves to be so much more creative and nimble (the Roku stick (http://www.roku.com/streamingstick) is my favorite new example.)

I've got a circa-2009 "Vieracast" Panasonic plasma and there's never been a single firmware update for it. If they think consumers are going to jump on board the current-year's vision without a realistic expectation of upgrades pushing their TV's technology forward - especially with a potential Apple TV on the horizon - they take us for even bigger suckers than we are.

No way, being able to Netflix and play video streams straight from the TV is way better than using external boxes. Couple that with being able to change the volume on the receiver through HDMI, and you can do almost everything through one simple TV remote.

Though, my 2012 Panasonic's already does the whole Viera app content sharing thing, so I'm not really sure how this counts as new news for a Mac site...

palmerc2
Jan 8, 2013, 11:12 AM
Wow I was under the impression 2012 was the last year for Plasma's from Panasonic. This is great news!

centauratlas
Jan 8, 2013, 11:37 AM
Nice. I have a Panasonic 65 with an Apple TV connected. Seriously have to consider the upgrade. ;-)

Russell L
Jan 8, 2013, 12:17 PM
Hmmm.....just got a new 65" Panny plasma a month ago (2012 model obviously). Wonder if any of the new features could be incorporated into a firmware update?

SockRolid
Jan 8, 2013, 12:21 PM
Nice. Looks a lot better than that "scrap iron and black spray paint" Samsung TV.

chrmjenkins
Jan 8, 2013, 12:46 PM
Wow I was under the impression 2012 was the last year for Plasma's from Panasonic. This is great news!

An unsubstantiated rumor.

Pakaku
Jan 8, 2013, 02:41 PM
There's still absolutely no incentive to buy these 'smart' TVs, when the TV channels themselves are nothing but crap.

erinsarah
Jan 8, 2013, 04:23 PM
"Through Panasonic's proprietary VIERA Connect platform,*users can transfer personal photos and videos from their Android or iOS devices directly to the large screen with a simple swipe of the finger and transfer them back to their smart devices the same way."

Hmm, spend a grand to get this or simply show the picture on my iPad to the person sitting next to me. Not really a selling point.

The industry has a long way to go until this stuff becomes truly viable. I purchased a new Panny last month with the Viera connect tools. They are nice toys, but clumsy, and the iPhone remote app is very non-intuitive. As someone above posted...CONTENT CONTENT CONTENT!!!!!

GenesisST
Jan 8, 2013, 04:23 PM
Hmmm.....just got a new 65" Panny plasma a month ago (2012 model obviously). Wonder if any of the new features could be incorporated into a firmware update?

Could: probably
Will happen: probably not...

ctdonath
Jan 8, 2013, 04:39 PM
There's still absolutely no incentive to buy these 'smart' TVs, when the TV channels themselves are nothing but crap.

Channels? What are these "channels" of which you speak? Ah, right, an anachronism from the 20th Century. Welcome to 2013, where on-demand 4K streaming is emerging. I haven't watched a "channel" for close to a decade now.

chrmjenkins
Jan 8, 2013, 07:11 PM
Hmm, spend a grand to get this or simply show the picture on my iPad to the person sitting next to me. Not really a selling point.

Can you not imagine a business or demonstration scenario where more than 1 person may need to see the content at once?

Pakaku
Jan 9, 2013, 01:07 AM
Channels? What are these "channels" of which you speak? Ah, right, an anachronism from the 20th Century. Welcome to 2013, where on-demand 4K streaming is emerging. I haven't watched a "channel" for close to a decade now.

Now that's a smart feature I can live with :)

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Can you not imagine a business or demonstration scenario where more than 1 person may need to see the content at once?

Why do you need a smart tv to do that? Just plug your laptop into the TV.

chrmjenkins
Jan 9, 2013, 02:31 AM
Why do you need a smart tv to do that? Just plug your laptop into the TV.

What laptop? You left it at your desk. And the TV is mounted into a wood panel. You'd need the company IT guy to get access. Etc. etc.

sparkso
Jan 9, 2013, 09:33 AM
still 1080p?
Isn't it time for 4K Ultra HD TVs?

chrmjenkins
Jan 9, 2013, 10:39 AM
still 1080p?
Isn't it time for 4K Ultra HD TVs?

Those were announced too. Panasonic showed off a 4K OLED TV. But would you buy one without an interconnect standard defined to handle it, no disc format standard (Sony says they'll make 4K Blu Rays, but who knows if it will require a whole new player) and no way to certify a display as fully UHD compliant right now (you have to have at least one digital input capable of accepting a 4k signal, which doesn't even exist yet)? You're basically hoping those things will work and buying it for the upconverting. What if, by the time all this stuff is decided, 8K TVs start coming around?

sparkso
Feb 16, 2013, 12:50 AM
Those were announced too. Panasonic showed off a 4K OLED TV. But would you buy one without an interconnect standard defined to handle it, no disc format standard (Sony says they'll make 4K Blu Rays, but who knows if it will require a whole new player) and no way to certify a display as fully UHD compliant right now (you have to have at least one digital input capable of accepting a 4k signal, which doesn't even exist yet)? You're basically hoping those things will work and buying it for the upconverting. What if, by the time all this stuff is decided, 8K TVs start coming around?

I would buy one just to show off at home by playing the demo video.