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eflaten
Sep 30, 2005, 07:16 PM
I want a pbook but it looks like the spec on the ibooks is very near the specs on the pbooks. The price gap is also very big. So what do you think I will miss on the ibook. I have used the pbook som years but now it doesent seems to be worth the very many extra money. By the way, in Norway the pbook costs 3160$ on AppleStore. 860 more than in US :) Do you think there will be any upgrade on the pbook before christmas?



VanMac
Sep 30, 2005, 07:26 PM
I have the new iBook, and am very happy with it. I bought it instead of the PB, as the PB is in need of some upgrades, and didnt seem worth the extra $$

AP_piano295
Sep 30, 2005, 07:37 PM
Just ordered my ibook and I find the pbooks to be incredibly overpriced these days. Think of it like this buy the ibook now and when the come out with the pintelbooks books then you can sell the ibook and buy one of those. Dont let anyone give you powerbooks arent underpowered because they run all the current programs. For their price powerbooks are very underpowered and underfeatured.

neocell
Sep 30, 2005, 07:43 PM
I love my powerbook (12") but as the posters above have said, there's not much difference between, but a lot in price. I love the superdrive capability so glad I didn't get a combo, so for me that would knock off the 12" iBook right away, and I want a portable laptop (ie small) so I don't know about the 14" iBook. If you already have a DVD burner then maybe the 12: iBook would be great. One note Appleinsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1298) is claiming updates of the pro line in early October, so you might want to wait.

AP_piano295
Sep 30, 2005, 07:49 PM
You can always buy an inexpensive exernal super drive

dmw007
Oct 1, 2005, 10:15 PM
Yes, there will probably be updated PowerBooks before Christmas.

But as of the current specs, I would go for a 12" iBook G4 over a PowerBook G4- not much of a performance difference for a heck of a lot of a cash difference.

Fender
Oct 1, 2005, 10:45 PM
For me, the #1 thing that puts the iBook and Powerbook into different worlds is the ability to attach a second display (display mirroring is garbage :D , I'm talking dual displays). Despite all the "powerbook is underpowered" talk, it's still a matter of consumer vs. power user.

Eluon
Oct 1, 2005, 11:44 PM
For me, the #1 thing that puts the iBook and Powerbook into different worlds is the ability to attach a second display (display mirroring is garbage :D , I'm talking dual displays). Despite all the "powerbook is underpowered" talk, it's still a matter of consumer vs. power user.


if he googles on the web for a free spanning program (I can't remember the name of it now...) the iBook will do screen spanning. i've tried it and it works fine.

As for the original question, the iBook G4 is the better value (12 incher)

maxterpiece
Oct 2, 2005, 12:04 AM
I'd say that if you need the superdrive and prefer a 12" 'book, then you obviously need to get a powerbook. Otherwise go with the 12" or 14" ibook. You can get a superdrive on a 14" The insides of the ibook and the powerbook are virtually the same. You mostly sacrifice features that are irrelevant to the average user - audio in, backlit keyboard (doesn't even come with the 12" PB), fancy aluminum case. You actually gain battery life and the ibook case is much more durable. The one thing that I find relevant to most users is the relative crappiness of the ibook keyboard. the powerbook keyboards are pretty sweet.

Abstract
Oct 2, 2005, 09:01 AM
For me, the #1 thing that puts the iBook and Powerbook into different worlds is the ability to attach a second display (display mirroring is garbage :D , I'm talking dual displays). Despite all the "powerbook is underpowered" talk, it's still a matter of consumer vs. power user.

Wow, so Apple could get you to buy a 12" PB because of THAT? :p Man, this is how they make money......by disabling a feature that's already on the iBook. Just use the screen hack like everyone else.

As a 12" PB owner who loves his PB, I would get a 12" iBook right now if I was choosing between the 12" iBook and 12" PB.

Mitthrawnuruodo
Oct 2, 2005, 09:16 AM
I think the 12" iBook is the laptop that gives you most value for money (not surprisingly, since I have one myself), just because it's so much cheaper than the rest and still able to do almost anything. Also it's very portable and feels much more durable than a PowerBook (it doesn't dent, but it do scratch).

One thing to remember when comparing prices on the US and Norwegian Apple Store is that the Norwegian prices include (a 25%!) sales tax, while the US add the tax (not even close to 25% ;)) later. Then the price difference isn't too bad, really...

devilot
Oct 2, 2005, 10:15 AM
Wow, so Apple could get you to buy a 12" PB because of THAT? :p Man, this is how they make money......by disabling a feature that's already on the iBook. Just use the screen hack like everyone else.But the 12" PB also has 64MB of VRAM which would better support the external display.As a 12" PB owner who loves his PB, I would get a 12" iBook right now if I was choosing between the 12" iBook and 12" PB.Yup. That's where I was a few months back-- owned a 12" 1.33GHz PB and offered it to my older sister in exchange for a new 12" 1.33GHz iBook. :D

leekohler
Oct 2, 2005, 12:03 PM
iBook. Do it.