PDA

View Full Version : Apple Adds Streaming Movie and TV Service Watchever to Apple TV in Germany




MacRumors
Jan 11, 2013, 10:00 AM
http://images.macrumors.com/im/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/11/apple-adds-streaming-movie-and-tv-service-watchever-to-apple-tv-in-germany/)


As noted by The Next Web (http://thenextweb.com/apple/2013/01/11/apple-adds-subscription-tv-and-movie-service-watchever-to-apple-tv-in-germany/), Apple has added support for new movie and TV streaming service Watchever (http://watchever.de) to the Apple TV in Germany.Essentially a German version of Hulu launched by Vivendi this month, it offers local, European and international movies and TV series for EUR8.99 a month. Key features include the ability to choose between a German dubbed version of international movies, or the original. There is also a personal recommendation algorithm la Netflix.http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/01/watchever_apple_tv.jpg
Watchever added to Apple TV home screen in Germany (Source: @chrizkro (https://twitter.com/chrizkro/status/289609933379481601))
Watchever had announced at its launch that it would be coming to the Apple TV, and Apple today updated (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4799) its support document on third-party content providers to include Watchever.

Article Link: Apple Adds Streaming Movie and TV Service Watchever to Apple TV in Germany (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/11/apple-adds-streaming-movie-and-tv-service-watchever-to-apple-tv-in-germany/)



M-O
Jan 11, 2013, 10:07 AM
thanks apple. now, how about that app store?

bbeagle
Jan 11, 2013, 10:20 AM
thanks apple. now, how about that app store?

I agree, I'd love an app store.

Since the Apple TV runs it's own OS, it has a different set of APIs. It's very time-consuming to make a secure public API. The API currently in use probably has all sorts of security holes and bugs that they haven't patched up or fixed yet, because it's unnecessary until it becomes public. It took a year for iOS to release it's first public API, and many years after to give it all the features.

If the Apple TV developers have the time and resources, they can do it. It's all up to Apple to put more money into this, and we'll have a public API. I just don't think Apple has been ready for it yet.

Mavimao
Jan 11, 2013, 10:27 AM
I agree, I'd love an app store.

Since the Apple TV runs it's own OS, it has a different set of APIs. It's very time-consuming to make a secure public API. The API currently in use probably has all sorts of security holes and bugs that they haven't patched up or fixed yet, because it's unnecessary until it becomes public. It took a year for iOS to release it's first public API, and many years after to give it all the features.

If the Apple TV developers have the time and resources, they can do it. It's all up to Apple to put more money into this, and we'll have a public API. I just don't think Apple has been ready for it yet.

Apple TV IS iOS. The same thing in your iphones and ipads...except with a different UI and geared towards multimedia.

bushido
Jan 11, 2013, 10:27 AM
they barely have anything worth mentioning. i'd rather see Sky Go and Spotify on it

Moonjumper
Jan 11, 2013, 10:33 AM
USA gets the Apple TV for less, but has more streaming options. Hopefully this is the start of opening up local options in all regions to balance things out.

For example, Apple TV in the UK should have BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, 4OD and Demand 5. Most connected devices do, including the iPhone and iPad.

sackofnouns
Jan 11, 2013, 10:36 AM
why is MLB.tv on the German apple tv? NBA I can see....but american baseball? ya think theyd at least have fifa on there

MuddyPaws1
Jan 11, 2013, 10:41 AM
Apps and a browser and I would be happy.

StarDal
Jan 11, 2013, 10:45 AM
I agree, I'd love an app store.

Since the Apple TV runs it's own OS, it has a different set of APIs. It's very time-consuming to make a secure public API. The API currently in use probably has all sorts of security holes and bugs that they haven't patched up or fixed yet, because it's unnecessary until it becomes public. It took a year for iOS to release it's first public API, and many years after to give it all the features.

If the Apple TV developers have the time and resources, they can do it. It's all up to Apple to put more money into this, and we'll have a public API. I just don't think Apple has been ready for it yet.

Apple TV version 1 did have its own OS, but with the switch to Apple TV2 it did take on iOS. In fact, on Apple TV 2 or 3, go to Settings -> General -> About. My Apple TV 2 is currently on "Apple TV Version" 5.1 (though it is telling me of an upgrade). It's really just a fork of iOS 5.1.

mrzippy
Jan 11, 2013, 10:51 AM
Apple TV version 1 did have its own OS, but with the switch to Apple TV2 it did take on iOS. In fact, on Apple TV 2 or 3, go to Settings -> General -> About. My Apple TV 2 is currently on "Apple TV Version" 5.1 (though it is telling me of an upgrade). It's really just a fork of iOS 5.1.

Sort of right, Apple TV 5.1 software is using iOS 6 I believe, click the select button on the about page and it tells you the iOS version.

Apple TV software is like an app so to speak, it's version isn't directly related to the iOS version.

smellalot
Jan 11, 2013, 10:55 AM
Apps and a browser and I would be happy.

A browser? How would you control it? With your iPad? You can airplay Safari to your Apple TV. So no need for that.

I think that's the reason there are no apps on the ATV. You need at least an iPod touch to control it. So you might as well use Airplay.

DavidBarrett
Jan 11, 2013, 10:59 AM
A browser? How would you control it? With your iPad? You can airplay Safari to your Apple TV. So no need for that.

I think that's the reason there are no apps on the ATV. You need at least an iPod touch to control it. So you might as well use Airplay.

They've already released Bluetooth support in the newest developer update. That's a pretty easy way to be able to browse the web...

newagemac
Jan 11, 2013, 11:08 AM
Sort of right, Apple TV 5.1 software is using iOS 6 I believe, click the select button on the about page and it tells you the iOS version.

Apple TV software is like an app so to speak, it's version isn't directly related to the iOS version.

This is correct. The Apple TV software is like an app that runs on iOS. If you go to Settings it only shows the software version initially like 5.1 but if you click the select button on your remote it switches to show the iOS version. Mines currently shows it as iOS 6.

DavidBarrett
Jan 11, 2013, 11:09 AM
I'm trying to delete this so i can post it in the forums but idk how so i'm just leaving it here with this note as a precursor.

On a side note, has anyone been able to get that new netflix "super hd" thing working on their ATV3? I have cablevision and the site (netflix.com/superhd) says it should be working and my connection is over 12mbps so I don't know why I don't see the logo (from support.netflix.com/en/node/8731) anywhere. Is it just me or is it not working for everyone?
Sorry this doesn't really have anything to do with this thread but I figured Apple TV people would at least be reading this one and idk where else to ask.

StarDal
Jan 11, 2013, 11:54 AM
Sort of right, Apple TV 5.1 software is using iOS 6 I believe, click the select button on the about page and it tells you the iOS version.

Apple TV software is like an app so to speak, it's version isn't directly related to the iOS version.

Ah.. thanks.. for some reason I thought I read elsewhere that it was stuck in the 5s.

bbeagle
Jan 11, 2013, 12:08 PM
Apple TV version 1 did have its own OS, but with the switch to Apple TV2 it did take on iOS. In fact, on Apple TV 2 or 3, go to Settings -> General -> About. My Apple TV 2 is currently on "Apple TV Version" 5.1 (though it is telling me of an upgrade). It's really just a fork of iOS 5.1.

I didn't know this. I always thought it was a 'different OS similar to iOS' much like the iPod Nanos use a 'different OS similar to iOS'.

Thank you.

mcfrazieriv
Jan 11, 2013, 12:58 PM
Damn that UI looks horrible. Unbalanced and wonky. :(

MuddyPaws1
Jan 11, 2013, 01:01 PM
A browser? How would you control it? With your iPad? You can airplay Safari to your Apple TV. So no need for that.

I think that's the reason there are no apps on the ATV. You need at least an iPod touch to control it. So you might as well use Airplay.

Not everyone that has an Apple TV has an iPad or some other several hundred dollar iDevice. All you would need is an inexpensive wireless keyboard.

For example, my mother in law has an AppleTV but doesn't have any other iDevices. Heck, she doesn't even have a smart phone.

smellalot
Jan 11, 2013, 01:52 PM
They've already released Bluetooth support in the newest developer update. That's a pretty easy way to be able to browse the web...

Year, but you still need a capable, easy to use input device.

Not everyone that has an Apple TV has an iPad or some other several hundred dollar iDevice. All you would need is an inexpensive wireless keyboard.

For example, my mother in law has an AppleTV but doesn't have any other iDevices. Heck, she doesn't even have a smart phone.

Same here. Apple won't suggest you to buy a cheap wireless keyboard. In fact Apple won't suggest you use a keyboard on your couch at all.

I don't think they will add apps in a way we know them because there is no better input device than your iOS device (so far at least).

gursis11
Jan 11, 2013, 02:29 PM
All these rumours about iTV when it's already here! It just some taking some time to evolve to a more complex and productive creature.

----------

Apps and a browser and I would be happy.
Apps on a TV... alright, plausible, at least some might come in use. Browser, why a browser on 40+" TV? Who browses the Internet when they're sitting on their couch? You have app for that: YouTube, Vimeo and other media sites.

rmwebs
Jan 11, 2013, 02:31 PM
In other news the Apple TV is still a pile of junk across the rest of the world.

In the UK its essentially just a 100 'pass' to watching paid iTunes content on your TV.

Tiger8
Jan 11, 2013, 02:36 PM
thanks apple. now, how about that app store?

Roku has that market. Roku's Channel store is handsdown the iTunes of TV box sets!

MuddyPaws1
Jan 11, 2013, 02:52 PM
All these rumours about iTV when it's already here! It just some taking some time to evolve to a more complex and productive creature.

----------


Apps on a TV... alright, plausible, at least some might come in use. Browser, why a browser on 40+" TV? Who browses the Internet when they're sitting on their couch? You have app for that: YouTube, Vimeo and other media sites.

So the internet is only for videos now? Either way, the YouTube app on the AppleTV is piss poor at best. Same with flickr. Vimeo is only marginally better.

"You have app for that: YouTube, Vimeo and other media sites."

What "other" sites are you talking about? You mentioned the 2 on the box. Other than flickr, there isn't a whole lot more you can do with a AppleTV in stock form that is with a crap.

Maybe YOU wouldn't surf sites on your TV, but many others would. I don't really see why people like you think that just because you don't have the desire to do something, then that particular something HAS to be totally pointless.

"Who browses the Internet when they're sitting on their couch?"

Yer kidding me right? How many laptops are in circulation at this moment? How many tablets are in use? That's just a silly comment. Yea, NO ONE browses the internet while sitting on their couch.:rolleyes:

Rayd5365
Jan 11, 2013, 02:52 PM
Amazon Instant Video, ...please. I get so much out of my prime membership, but to watch all the prime content on my big TV's without having to buy/boot another set-top box would be so nice.
That or enable apps, or Amazon could support airplay video in the ipad player.
So close on so many fronts....

McGiord
Jan 11, 2013, 05:29 PM
Does it have HBO? For that price?

nevermind50
Jan 12, 2013, 04:13 AM
Good to see Apple adding more content. Agree with those who want more channels on the ATV, but can't understand those who want a browser. That's not something Apple will do on an essentially communal device IMO.

If someone dared to receive tweets, or "google" on the TV whilst I was watching something, it'd be the last thing they did on this earth. These things belong on a personal device. A games App Store, well, now you're talking!

marc11
Jan 12, 2013, 05:37 AM
why is MLB.tv on the German apple tv? NBA I can see....but american baseball? ya think theyd at least have fifa on there

People watch American sports outside of the USA you know. While it would be great to have more international sports options, you would be surprised how many of us outside of the USA watch MLB, NFL and NBA sports too. Its a big world out there.

stewdaviesuk
Jan 12, 2013, 05:50 AM
why is MLB.tv on the German apple tv? NBA I can see....but american baseball? ya think theyd at least have fifa on there

Its the same in the UK, Apple TV is not at all geared to Europe. In the UK our Netflix is not a patch on the USA library and we have Lovefilm and Blinkbox movies which are not supported plus not BBC iPlayer and the like that has been mentioned.

Sure you can Airplay some things, but not all! That facility is disabled on some UK movie and TV sites and Apps and in any case if I am working on my Mac then someone else cannot use it to airplay.

I like my apple TV but my SkyHD ( Has internet iPlayers etc) box is far better as are the games consoles for TV and Movies.

If Apple ever make a TV its going to need to have plenty of options to satisfy Europe where the movies services I mentioned already come with a lot of internet TV's, plus I am not sure about the USA but geographically a lot of the UK does not have access to fibre broadband and the speeds are limited.

ToyotaGuy23
Jan 12, 2013, 08:41 AM
I took my ATV3 with me to the beach. The resort's wireless was unsecured, but required you to login on their page to use it. Without a browser, I was stuck. I even tried to spoof the MAC address on my laptop, but no luck.

Mike MA
Jan 12, 2013, 09:17 AM
they barely have anything worth mentioning. i'd rather see Sky Go and Spotify on it

At least they added something - which is not happening too often in our area :rolleyes:

princigalli
Jan 12, 2013, 02:52 PM
nothing special. anyone can come out with a video download service. live tv would be better, and international too otherwise nobody needs to watch tv over internet instead of antenna

APlotdevice
Jan 12, 2013, 03:54 PM
A browser? How would you control it? With your iPad? You can airplay Safari to your Apple TV. So no need for that.

I think that's the reason there are no apps on the ATV. You need at least an iPod touch to control it. So you might as well use Airplay.

An AirPlay mirrored Safari doesn't take anywhere near full advantage of an HDTV's real estate. Maybe if they improved Safari so that it could display separate images on each screen, as some games do, then you'd have a good web browsing experience. Right now it sucks.

Glideslope
Jan 13, 2013, 10:08 AM
thanks apple. now, how about that app store?

Tell Angela to make it happen. She has the power. ;)

needfx
Jan 13, 2013, 11:33 AM
watcheeever...talk to the remote

X5-599
Jan 14, 2013, 06:26 AM
Tell Angela to make it happen. She has the power. ;)

First she should make sure everyone gets broadband internet connection. Seriously, what good is the best streaming service if the majority is stuck on DSL3000? Or worse DSL Light(1000)?

Trust me noone wants to start/stop watching a movie as if it were on youtube.

rctlr
Jan 14, 2013, 06:46 AM
Apple TV in the UK should have BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, 4OD and Demand 5. Most connected devices do, including the iPhone and iPad.

Agreed, it all depends on licencing etc of content in the end, and there might be conflicts, but I'm sure it will come.

Airplay from the bbc iplayer app from an ios device is possible in the meantime.

irnchriz
Jan 14, 2013, 06:57 AM
In other news the Apple TV is still a pile of junk across the rest of the world.

In the UK its essentially just a 100 'pass' to watching paid iTunes content on your TV.

or stream your own content via iTunes or iTunes Match (if you are in a different location from your iTunes music library)
or airplay content to it (e.g. iPlayer, photos, videos, screen mirroring from your Macbook Pro)

For a 'pile of junk' my Apple TV gets more use than my Sky TV or Virginmedia boxes ever used to get.

rmwebs
Jan 14, 2013, 10:18 AM
or stream your own content via iTunes or iTunes Match (if you are in a different location from your iTunes music library)
or airplay content to it (e.g. iPlayer, photos, videos, screen mirroring from your Macbook Pro)

For a 'pile of junk' my Apple TV gets more use than my Sky TV or Virginmedia boxes ever used to get.

A 25 RaspberryPi can perform both of those functions (and more). Makes the AppleTV a bad choice in the UK.

ThatGuyInLa
Jan 14, 2013, 02:51 PM
How about dLNA support Apple? The most common widely used protocol to stream media from people's computers? Grrrrr..

(yes I know about ATV Flash)

flipperfeet
Jan 14, 2013, 06:18 PM
A browser? How would you control it? With your iPad? You can airplay Safari to your Apple TV. So no need for that.

I think that's the reason there are no apps on the ATV. You need at least an iPod touch to control it. So you might as well use Airplay.

aTV Flash for AppleTV Gen 1 and Gen 2 has a browser that you can navigate using the standard appleTV remote just fine. Although it is a much better experience using an iPhone or iPad. Using the standard remote you enter addresses in the same fashion you enter search terms.

irnchriz
Jan 15, 2013, 05:36 AM
A 25 RaspberryPi can perform both of those functions (and more). Makes the AppleTV a bad choice in the UK.

And exactly how many punters out there who own iPads and iPhones would have a clue about the following:

a) what is a raspberry Pi?
b) where to buy one
c) how to set it up with XBMC
d) how to airplay to it from a non jailbroken device (erm, you can't)

On that basis alone Raspberry Pi is a terrible option for 99% of the public in the UK. Why don't you buy one, plus an enclosure plus a power supply and memory stick and run one yourself?

James Craner
Jan 15, 2013, 05:45 AM
USA gets the Apple TV for less, but has more streaming options. Hopefully this is the start of opening up local options in all regions to balance things out.

For example, Apple TV in the UK should have BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, 4OD and Demand 5. Most connected devices do, including the iPhone and iPad.

Yep I would buy one in a heartbeat if I could get iPlayer on it without hacking.

rmwebs
Jan 15, 2013, 05:48 AM
And exactly how many punters out there who own iPads and iPhones would have a clue about the following:

a) what is a raspberry Pi?
b) where to buy one
c) how to set it up with XBMC
d) how to airplay to it from a non jailbroken device (erm, you can't)

On that basis alone Raspberry Pi is a terrible option for 99% of the public in the UK. Why don't you buy one, plus an enclosure plus a power supply and memory stick and run one yourself?


In answer to that:

a) Given that the Pi has had a crap load of publicity, and has sold a million units, its not hard to figure that one out.
b) We have this magical tool. Its called Google.
c) Plenty of guides, and even a complete app that will do it for you
d) 100% Wrong. XBMC's Airplay works with non-jailbroken devices. Even works with mirroring on OS X.

So no. No. The Pi isn't a terrible option. Just because you dont like it, it doesn't invalidate it as an option.

Oh and I've got 4 of them. All work great. Total cost for each pi (including case and a power supply) was just under 32 delivered.

Mr-Kerrse
Jan 15, 2013, 05:55 AM
I would like to see an app store added but most tv's come with iplayer etc on them already so ATV is already way behind.

I have a browser on mine thanks to atv flash but never use it.

M-O
Jan 15, 2013, 06:47 AM
Roku has that market. Roku's Channel store is handsdown the iTunes of TV box sets!

yea, but Roku doesn't play well with my Apple ecosystem. however, it will have to do for now.

Tiger8
Jan 15, 2013, 07:27 AM
yea, but Roku doesn't play well with my Apple ecosystem. however, it will have to do for now.

They just added music and photo streaming from your iphone or iPad. Who knows? Maybe they will add something like airplay soon :)

The Phazer
Jan 15, 2013, 07:35 AM
d) 100% Wrong. XBMC's Airplay works with non-jailbroken devices. Even works with mirroring on OS X.

Airplay mirroring doesn't work with non-jailbroken iOS devices to other devices though (which is exactly why mirroring is the only form supported by many apps, as it implements Fairplay).

rmwebs
Jan 15, 2013, 09:28 AM
Airplay mirroring doesn't work with non-jailbroken iOS devices to other devices though (which is exactly why mirroring is the only form supported by many apps, as it implements Fairplay).

I never said anything about mirroring iOS devices (TBH I've never tried / needed to). The RPi does however support the following without special software or jailbreaking:

- AirPlay mirroring of your mac
- AirPlay playback of iOS content (including web streams from the likes of youtube)

I regularly do both of these on my Pi's and they always work perfectly fine.

b1gdan
Jan 15, 2013, 01:06 PM
can you get english subtitles for 'watchever' on apple tv?

i want to be able to watch in german but have english subtitles so i can watch movies with my german girlfriend

irnchriz
Jan 15, 2013, 08:37 PM
In answer to that:

a) Given that the Pi has had a crap load of publicity, and has sold a million units, its not hard to figure that one out.
b) We have this magical tool. Its called Google.
c) Plenty of guides, and even a complete app that will do it for you
d) 100% Wrong. XBMC's Airplay works with non-jailbroken devices. Even works with mirroring on OS X.

So no. No. The Pi isn't a terrible option. Just because you dont like it, it doesn't invalidate it as an option.

Oh and I've got 4 of them. All work great. Total cost for each pi (including case and a power supply) was just under 32 delivered.

Good for you, I never said I didn't like the raspberry pi, I said that its not a solution for the non techies out there.

P.s. it shipped approximately 500,000 units in the last 6 months and MIGHT have reached a million units. Which would be impressive for a dev/home brew kit.

Anyway, ignore the Apple TV, by the time you add wifi and a remote control to your pi you are in the price bracket of Roku boxes at 50 quid, which are plug and play, again a far simpler solution for joe public.

APlotdevice
Jan 15, 2013, 09:14 PM
Amazon Instant Video, ...please. I get so much out of my prime membership, but to watch all the prime content on my big TV's without having to buy/boot another set-top box would be so nice.
That or enable apps, or Amazon could support airplay video in the ipad player.
So close on so many fronts....

I'd put an AppleTV in every room of my house if it had Amazon Prime support.

Macist
Jan 16, 2013, 10:36 AM
Just make an App Store.

Then all the iPlayer, 4od, Lovefilm, Amazon stuff would surely follow.