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northernbaldy
Jan 13, 2013, 05:03 AM
My old iPad is starting to suffer, it has a Bloch on the screen and it's becoming painfully slow
Also, I recently had to use my iPad for some office work (I was out the country) and it was just a pain!

So I'm thinking, base spec, 11" air would be the ideal replacement

Am I mad?

I do love the iPad for its convenience, battery life and portability
But the current air's seem pretty good at doing what I need

Agggghhh!



ybz90
Jan 13, 2013, 05:18 AM
If you can afford it, I wholeheartedly recommend it. I had several iPads, and while I even prefer them for media consumption, I never managed to be very productive on them.

nightlong
Jan 13, 2013, 08:11 AM
Do you most need an iPad or a computer? For me, neither could replace the other, as they are totally different things. Despite the 11inch Air being not much bigger than an iPad, I wouldn't use it in all the ways I use iPads.

cedwhatev
Jan 13, 2013, 08:19 AM
If you gotta choose between them, it's a no-brainer. Get the Air. ;)

iamsen47
Jan 13, 2013, 09:59 AM
They're different devices serving different needs. The Air is a full fledged computer that can do computer-y stuff. The iPad, while it can be used for work, does have its limits. It really depends on what kind of work you need it to do.

The advantage of the iPad over the Air is that it has a much lighter footprint than even the 11" Air, and the battery lasts twice as long. It is also a great tool for client presentation, either on the device itself or using the AV-adaptor to connect to a larger monitor or projector.

When doing work with an iPad, it helps to have a physical keyboard. I bought the Apple BT keyboard precisely to write/code on the iPad2 and it has made life easier. There're times where I don't even need to turn my computers on, working solely through the iPad.

jojoba
Jan 13, 2013, 10:01 AM
If you gotta choose between them, it's a no-brainer. Get the Air. ;)

I kind of agree with this. I love my iPad and use it extensively, but if the choice was between the iPad and Air for getting office work done, then definitely the Air.

JoelBC
Jan 13, 2013, 10:24 AM
I had an iPad 3 64 GB with cell and dropped it after 2 to 3 months for a MBA and ave never looked back.

In essence it depends on the usage in that for consuming materials the iPad is great but for creating / tracking information the MBA is much better.

To me the best solution is an iPhone 5 [or like device] + MBA.

northernbaldy
Jan 13, 2013, 10:33 AM
I know what you say about them being totally different devices
Since buying the iPad, I have hardly switched my old 17" MBP on!

My reasons for considering an air and not just another iPad

1. Sometimes, some websites just don't work on the iPad
2. I sometimes get some finger paid from the onscreen keyboard (I could buy a bt keyboard though)
3. Pages and numbers are good, but sometimes a pain in the arse
4. My old MacBook pro, which is in perfect condition, can't run lion :( so no iCloud integration
5. My mac mini server has no monitor and even if it did, there is nowhere to put it.
6. The wife is never off the pro as its her business machine.
7. Need to buy the camera connection kit again (for lighting)


Reasons for an iPad

1. We have a mac pro a mac mini server and two MacBooks for anything the iPad can't handle.
2. Great for traveling, it can share a charger with our iPhones
3. Cheaper


Weird, it's a really difficult decision

Mrbobb
Jan 13, 2013, 11:04 AM
After playing with a friend's iPad am less inclined to get one. Somehow holding it with one hand feels tiresome. I know you can pop it up on a table, but then an Air will do nicely there. Seems to me and iPad is good if you spend lots of time on public transit, needs the battery time, and are on-the-go where you need to recall information quickly.

An Air can do most everything, maybe except a few "special" games (I don't do games). The big downside is battery life as said. The Air is so thin it carries like a tablet, specially the 11" I LUV mine.

praktical
Jan 13, 2013, 11:14 AM
My old iPad is starting to suffer, it has a Bloch on the screen and it's becoming painfully slow
Also, I recently had to use my iPad for some office work (I was out the country) and it was just a pain!

So I'm thinking, base spec, 11" air would be the ideal replacement

Am I mad?

I do love the iPad for its convenience, battery life and portability
But the current air's seem pretty good at doing what I need

Agggghhh!

It really depends on just how mobile you need to be. And the quality of on the go work you need done. If your allows you to be mobile for let's say 80% of your work day then I'd suggest just upgrading your iPad to the New iPad with maybe the 32GB model and like I said it all depends n your workload. However if you're not on the road that much you might want to consider the MBA.
Taking into consideration your budget you would not want to overspend on a device you will never fully utilize but rather on something you'll get your money's worth.
I hope I was able to help.

JohnLT13
Jan 13, 2013, 11:26 AM
I recently purchased the MBA 11" 4/128/i5
My iPad is now collecting dust. I just feel i get more done on the MBA.
Just wish I got the 8/128 /i7 instead. I use iLife quite a bit, it lags slightly.

KPOM
Jan 13, 2013, 12:31 PM
I agree they are different products for different tasks. Office work is definitely better on a MacBook Air. However, you lose the ability to run iOS apps. Perhaps consider a base 11" MBA, and a base iPad Mini. Combined, it would weigh less than the 13" MBA and serve all your computing needs.

northernbaldy
Jan 13, 2013, 02:16 PM
hmm, that could work

CoMoMacUser
Jan 13, 2013, 03:58 PM
I was in a similar situation over the summer, and I wound up going with an MBA, albeit the 13" model. No regrets. The iPad is good for consuming content but horrible for creating it unless you enjoy typing on glass.

WilliamLondon
Jan 13, 2013, 06:24 PM
Perhaps consider a base 11" MBA, and a base iPad Mini.

I have the 11" MBA and combined that with an iPad mini - they're a great combination for me, highly complementary, highly recommended duo.

KPOM
Jan 13, 2013, 08:49 PM
I have the 11" MBA and combined that with an iPad mini - they're a great combination for me, highly complementary, highly recommended duo.

I had that combo until about 3 weeks ago when I lost my MacBook Air at an airport. :( Fortunately it was insured and I had Find My Mac turned on so it erased itself (and all my personal data) the first time whoever found it at the airport 2 days later (and didn't turn it in :mad:) turned it on and it detected the airport Wi-Fi. I decided to use the insurance proceeds and a few hundred extra dollars to step up to the 13" Retina MacBook Pro. I'm still getting used to the weight, but the Retina Display is really nice. Now I can't wait for the iPad mini to get a Retina Display.

Stooby Mcdoobie
Jan 13, 2013, 09:28 PM
I know it's probably sacrilege to post about this outside of the Alternatives to iOS forum, but have you considered the Nexus 10? You'll get the portability of the iPad and (especially when used with a keyboard and mouse) the productivity of the MBA - well as close as you can get with a non-Windows tablet.

My brother uses his Nexus 7 with this keyboard/mouse combo (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Multi-Touch-920-003070/dp/B005DKZTMG/) for school notes and papers. Since it has a microUSB port, you can get one of these (http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-Micro-USB-OTG-Adapter/dp/B005QX7KYU/) and use just about any USB peripheral with it.

If you're not afraid to try something new (Android), I'd definitely recommend it.

tacomahunter
Jan 13, 2013, 09:37 PM
All I can say is since I picked up my new MBA my IPAD has seen very little if any work. I sold my 3 year old MBP and now I only see my MBA getting any use for work and surfing. I would say go with whatever you think you would use more, but I dont see me going back to the IPAD anytime soon. Anyone looking to buy a 16GB 3G AT&T iPad?:D

KPOM
Jan 13, 2013, 09:37 PM
I know it's probably sacrilege to post about this outside of the Alternatives to iOS forum, but have you considered the Nexus 10? You'll get the portability of the iPad and (especially when used with a keyboard and mouse) the productivity of the MBA - well as close as you can get with a non-Windows tablet. .

I'd say the upcoming Surface Pro is the closest yet to a single "do it all" device. However the 2 lb weight is the biggest turnoff for me. My 3rd Gen iPad feels heavy compared to my iPad Mini.

I think that in the future, the iPad Mini will be the more popular version. It's the right size for reading a book or newspaper on the subway, doing casual gaming or web browsing, or reading e-mail. The Surface (Pro or otherwise) is a little to big to be a decent tablet, and too small to be a decent notebook. I see a future where we have MacBook Airs or Ultrabooks, and 7-8" tablets. Two devices for two needs, but with some overlap.

Sakuraba
Jan 13, 2013, 09:47 PM
I struggled myself between MBA 13' and 11'. I am so glad I choose 11'!

I promise you - You will not regret going from iPad to MBA 11'.

Actually, in bed for instance MBA 11' wins easily.

Only time I use my iPad (mini) is when I follow my wife to some shopping mall or visits hospital or other places were I have to sit and wait for a considerable amount of time.

If you have tried to work on your iPad - after the switch, you will wonder how you could have the patience to do any kind of work on an iPad.

Stooby Mcdoobie
Jan 13, 2013, 10:11 PM
I'd say the upcoming Surface Pro is the closest yet to a single "do it all" device.

Definitely. Just a shame it comes with Windows 8. :p

I think that in the future, the iPad Mini will be the more popular version. It's the right size for reading a book or newspaper on the subway, doing casual gaming or web browsing, or reading e-mail. The Surface (Pro or otherwise) is a little to big to be a decent tablet, and too small to be a decent notebook. I see a future where we have MacBook Airs or Ultrabooks, and 7-8" tablets. Two devices for two needs, but with some overlap.

I'd love to see a full fledged OS X tablet - maybe to replace the 9.7" iPad and fill in the gap between the iPad mini and retina MBP/MBA, but I doubt we'll see this anytime soon (if ever). I could easily get by with just a Surface Pro-esque device for my mobile use and a desktop or docking station at home.

yourtoys7
Jan 13, 2013, 10:14 PM
11" feels too small at times, but very portable. Before September school starts I think I'll get 13" and iPad mini.

Technarchy
Jan 13, 2013, 11:19 PM
I can get by with an iPad for many things. Especially with the Logitech Ultrathin, but there are many occasions where the power of the MBA, screen estate and keyboard size is greatly appreciated.

The 11" is nice, but I prefer the 13"...the 13" MBA is actually the first Mac I ever purchased.

Dominus Mortem
Jan 14, 2013, 04:05 AM
The moment you need to actually be productive an Air trumps an Ipad. Ipads have their place but if you have to produce output, you need a computer. The 11" Air is what you want for ultimate portability, but you may be happier with the 13" Air for it's longer battery life, better resolution and other expanded features. I had a 11" and loved it well enough, but if I had it to do over again I think I'd get the 13", mainly for the battery life. I ran down the Air to close to nothing too often.

maxosx
Jan 14, 2013, 05:31 AM
I have the 11" MBA and combined that with an iPad mini - they're a great combination for me, highly complementary, highly recommended duo.

I agree based on my personal experience.

Yet if you're only interested in one, I'd buy the MBA without hesitation. There's a full keyboard, a full OS with a file system, and it's still feather light & a fully functional computer.

Frankly I can't image only having an iPad. Even if one has a desktop.

WilliamLondon
Jan 14, 2013, 05:49 AM
I agree based on my personal experience.

Yet if you're only interested in one, I'd buy the MBA without hesitation. There's a full keyboard, a full OS with a file system, and it's still feather light & a fully functional computer.

Frankly I can't image only having an iPad. Even if one has a desktop.

Yep, I'd agree with that - which is why I got my MBA first (and got the one I wanted) before I thought about which tablet to get.

wolfpuppies3
Jan 14, 2013, 09:51 AM
To me they are different tools for different purposes. The iPad is not a computer and probably never will be. It is great for reading, quick email checking, even web surfing and ordering. It is not adequate for full blown word processing, database and spreadsheet management, photo processing. My MacBooks are.

cramazing
Jan 14, 2013, 10:01 AM
edit - sorry meant to creat a new thread

maxosx
Jan 14, 2013, 11:07 AM
To me they are different tools for different purposes. The iPad is not a computer and probably never will be. It is great for reading, quick email checking, even web surfing and ordering. It is not adequate for full blown word processing, database and spreadsheet management, photo processing. My MacBooks are.

I agree completely. iPads are nice & a bit of a fad due to the way Apple hypes their latest products to drive sales. No doubt they are here to stay, but they cannot do true computing.

northernbaldy
Feb 4, 2013, 02:41 PM
70 quid off on amazon :D

Ordered

Eddy Munn
Feb 4, 2013, 04:14 PM
I personally find the 11" MBA slightly too small, but with Macbook Pros at your disposal, I don't think that's an issue for you.
in bed for instance MBA 11' wins easily. 11" feels too small at timesSorry, how immature of me.

rbrian
Feb 4, 2013, 04:25 PM
I use my iPad for reading magazines with Zinio, and editing photos I've taken on my iPhone.

For everything else, my Air is better, especially office work.

sexiewasd
Feb 4, 2013, 06:09 PM
I have a 2011 MBA, a Nexus 7, two iPods (4th and 5th gen) and an Apple TV, I've also used an iPad 3rd gen for a while. Get the MBA. The only real downside that you have to consider is the battery life, because the Mac's isn't nearly as good as an iPad. The Nexus 7's lasts just about as long as my iPods do, which is disappointing considering that the iPad's is so good, it also has backlight bleed, and Google Play and android in general just feel like the kmart of mobile OS, nothing works quite as well as with iOS.

The Apple TV is a great companion to anything running a newer version of iOS, or OS X. I have it 3M command stripped to the back of a 27" monitor (that's been unused since I bought the MBA and lent out my Windows 7 Tower) and now it's a great larger screen for the MBA and the iPods, it's also my stereo, and my TV.

So I guess get the MBA, and an Apple TV + decent monitor or TV and speakers, and then save up for the iPad mini 2nd gen (whenever that comes out), and most of your bases will be well covered, You do have an iPhone right?

cvkai
Feb 4, 2013, 06:19 PM
I'm still thinking what would be the best set up for me. Nowadays we have a lot of options: smartphone/phablet, 7" tablet, 10" tablet, 11", 13" and 15" notebooks, desktop. And we can also choose a Windows 8 tablet or convertible notebook. So many devices.

Cheffy Dave
Feb 4, 2013, 06:51 PM
I had that combo until about 3 weeks ago when I lost my MacBook Air at an airport. :( Fortunately it was insured and I had Find My Mac turned on so it erased itself (and all my personal data) the first time whoever found it at the airport 2 days later (and didn't turn it in :mad:) turned it on and it detected the airport Wi-Fi. I decided to use the insurance proceeds and a few hundred extra dollars to step up to the 13" Retina MacBook Pro. I'm still getting used to the weight, but the Retina Display is really nice. Now I can't wait for the iPad mini to get a Retina Display.

I do agree, I am going with the next 11" MBA, and the next iPad 2Mini
:eek::cool:

northernbaldy
Feb 8, 2013, 12:46 PM
loving it so far :D

northernbaldy
Feb 8, 2013, 02:13 PM
update

so this is what mountain lion is all about!!!

my old macbook pro is snow leopard, the server and mac pro have graphics tablets.


This is my first device with full gesture control and wow, its so much better!
I think I'm starting to see the whole point of back to mac now

jmoore5196
Feb 8, 2013, 04:16 PM
I've never had my iPad sit idle because I bought an Air ... as others have noted, they are two different machines and built for different purposes.

The iPad excels at media consumption; it's the last device I use before I go to sleep and I find myself checking early-morning email on it before I ever go near my desk.

The Air, on the other hand, is sheer delight for on-the-go productivity. I have a 2012 11" - admittedly, better-speced than most - which has capably handled everything I've ever thrown at it.

My affinity for this machine is so great that I'm wondering why I don't replace my desktop with it.

I think you've made a prudent choice. Let us know if there are any regrets!

ctdonath
Feb 11, 2013, 11:15 AM
I can't image only having an iPad. Even if one has a desktop.

I've pretty much had only an iPad since the day iPad 1 came out. Have a desktop machine at work, but that's just for work (programming), occasionally used for those few things I need to do which the iPad can't. There is a PC at home, but it's so decrepit it serves little purpose beyond iTunes host and storage for old files. I take the iPad everywhere. Got an iPhone just a month ago. iPad is very capable, but its limits are real: while we're getting away from managing files per se, there are still an awful lot of them around (in need of transition to the "no apparent file system" paradigm); the refusal to allow on-tablet software development is a critical limitation (yeah it's not meant for it, but the capability is entirely there stifled only by policy).

Finally gonna break down and get a "real" computer. Been eager to get a 27" loaded iMac for a year, but the money just isn't coming together fast enough and I'm pretty much at the "must buy now" point. Looking at a refurbished low-end 13" MBA now: cheap (as far as Macs go), bigger screen won't compete with iPad's 10", SD card slot makes upgrading storage easy (64GB microSD in a flush-mount adapter), runs Xcode, light, tough.

The key in asking "iPad and/or MBA?" is recognizing they are, in fact, different. iPad is "anywhere, anytime", as small as sanely possible (iPhone too small) yet still a good-sized screen and has always-on cellular data; it's limited, but what it does is about 80% of what many/most use a computer for. MBA takes that, expands the screen a bit more, has faster input, supports file systems, and allows coding ... but loses the extreme portability and "always connected" ability.

With a little adjustment, the iPad can handle about 80% of all tasks. I've pushed that almost as far as I can, but it just doesn't cover the remaining 20% - much of which is more a matter of legacy (file systems) than capability.

David58117
Feb 11, 2013, 01:17 PM
I've pretty much had only an iPad since the day iPad 1 came out. Have a desktop machine at work, but that's just for work (programming), occasionally used for those few things I need to do which the iPad can't. There is a PC at home, but it's so decrepit it serves little purpose beyond iTunes host and storage for old files. I take the iPad everywhere. Got an iPhone just a month ago. iPad is very capable, but its limits are real: while we're getting away from managing files per se, there are still an awful lot of them around (in need of transition to the "no apparent file system" paradigm); the refusal to allow on-tablet software development is a critical limitation (yeah it's not meant for it, but the capability is entirely there stifled only by policy).

Finally gonna break down and get a "real" computer. Been eager to get a 27" loaded iMac for a year, but the money just isn't coming together fast enough and I'm pretty much at the "must buy now" point. Looking at a refurbished low-end 13" MBA now: cheap (as far as Macs go), bigger screen won't compete with iPad's 10", SD card slot makes upgrading storage easy (64GB microSD in a flush-mount adapter), runs Xcode, light, tough.

The key in asking "iPad and/or MBA?" is recognizing they are, in fact, different. iPad is "anywhere, anytime", as small as sanely possible (iPhone too small) yet still a good-sized screen and has always-on cellular data; it's limited, but what it does is about 80% of what many/most use a computer for. MBA takes that, expands the screen a bit more, has faster input, supports file systems, and allows coding ... but loses the extreme portability and "always connected" ability.

With a little adjustment, the iPad can handle about 80% of all tasks. I've pushed that almost as far as I can, but it just doesn't cover the remaining 20% - much of which is more a matter of legacy (file systems) than capability.

What specifically about file systems?

I had no problem transferring files to the iPad when I owned it (3rd gen.), mainly wireless through ftp/http transfer on my desktop, and once I JB'd it I had complete access to the file system.

maxosx
Feb 11, 2013, 01:25 PM
What specifically about file systems?

I had no problem transferring files to the iPad when I owned it (3rd gen.), mainly wireless through ftp/http transfer on my desktop, and once I JB'd it I had complete access to the file system.

File systems are at the center of my cross platform environment. That's one very big reason I'm so impressed with my Nexus Trio.

Comprised of the N4 Smartphone, N7 & N10 Tablets, without rooting or any such extra mods they "just work great" right out of the box.

Thanks Google !

andiwm2003
Feb 11, 2013, 02:51 PM
i would somehow hope Apple makes the 11" Air like the Microsoft surface, just better. This would give you both worls in one device. Unfortunately the Surface is not done well, too heavy, too short battery life. But I'm not going to upgrade my iPad1. I'll most likely use my Nexus7 and buy a 11" MBA with the next release if it gets a good screen and some other improvements. The iPad is just to limiting for my travels and my MBP is too heavy since I have to bring my work Laptop already.

David58117
Feb 11, 2013, 03:16 PM
File systems are at the center of my cross platform environment. That's one very big reason I'm so impressed with my Nexus Trio.

Comprised of the N4 Smartphone, N7 & N10 Tablets, without rooting or any such extra mods they "just work great" right out of the box.

Thanks Google !

I've had Android tablets too (Xoom, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10, Asus Transformer & Prime), but the market place was too limited and missed many of the great apps.

Having used both, I've very curious what a true file system is needed for. On the iPad, the file management apps allowed transferring (I mainly used ftp/http wireless transfer), organization, and folder management. Unless you're trying to install older DOS games (I installed old PC games on Android using Dosbox, but performance was laggy), or trying to gain root access for whatever reason (in that case - JB!) - I don't see the advantage over current file management apps.

ctdonath
Feb 11, 2013, 03:32 PM
What specifically about file systems?

I had no problem transferring files to the iPad ... once I JB'd it I had complete access to the file system.

Ay, there's the rub. Some of us don't jailbreak our devices.

And now that I'm writing apps, I understand why :apple: is disinclined to let users in there.

David58117
Feb 11, 2013, 04:00 PM
Ay, there's the rub. Some of us don't jailbreak our devices.

And now that I'm writing apps, I understand why :apple: is disinclined to let users in there.

As I said - you don't have to JB.

file management/storage and organization is already do-able with a stock iPad. There are plenty of very good apps that act as a hub, somewhat similar to a "my computer."

From there, you could transfer/download to/rename/organize your files...worked very well when I used it.

JB isn't required for any of that..

maxosx
Feb 11, 2013, 04:46 PM
I don't see the advantage over current file management apps.

The advantage is speed & native access just like using my computer.

Android ver: 4.2.x as on my Nexus 4 performs with great speed & accuracy. In fairness looking back & talking about Android lag is irrelevant. My current crop of Android phones being a: Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II & Nexus 4 all operate lag free. They are as smooth & fast as my iPhone 5.

Remember iOS has had quite a head start over Android, yet Google has made swift & excellent progress with it. Running both my Nexus 4 & iPhone 5 side by side, in real world usage they are nearly identical in performance.

At the end of the day, it's the user that wins big, since the choices have never been better. Now one can choose from either Android or iOS and enjoy an excellent experience.

David58117
Feb 11, 2013, 04:49 PM
The advantage is speed & native access just like using my computer.

Android ver: 4.2.x as on my Nexus 4 performs with great speed & accuracy. In fairness looking back & talking about Android lag is irrelevant. My current crop of Android phones being a: Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II & Nexus 4 all operate lag free. They are as smooth & fast as my iPhone 5.

Remember iOS has had quite a head start over Android, yet Google has made swift & excellent progress with it. Running both my Nexus 4 & iPhone 5 side by side, in real world usage they are nearly identical in performance.

At the end of the day, it's the user that wins big, since the choices have never been better. Now one can choose from either Android or iOS and enjoy an excellent experience.

Lag as in while running dosbox installed older pc games. That was the only time file system access came in handy for me.

It was something cool and potentially useful, but the hardware and lack of optimization made it impossible.

I'm just trying to brainstorm when having file system access was useful for me.

Everything else file management apps worked spectacularly for. I even preferred them over directly JBing.

I have the gs3 too, great phone. I wouldn't go apple for a phone...

maxosx
Feb 11, 2013, 05:15 PM
The beauty of what we are discussing revolves around choices. In that context it's a win, win outcome once the decision is made.

andiwm2003
Feb 11, 2013, 09:45 PM
................ - I don't see the advantage over current file management apps.

can you built up a sytem where you have ppt's, word files, images, excel files, pics of various formats sorted in folders and subfolders to organize your projects and share entire folders via USB with several other computers? I know that Goodreader comes close for reading most of those files but you can't edit/work with them.

Keep in mind that you are not allowed to use email or cloud servises for IP reasons and the computers you are connecting to are for obvious reasons locked down and only allow connection via USB cable. Also the file structure is predefined by the needs of other users on the projects.

The only way I see to do this is with an open file system.

Also a very simple thing the iPad can't do: I want to quickly transfer a few ppt's and a few pdf's to my iPad to read on a plane. Impossible task since the computer is locked down and does not allow the installation of iTunes, the iPad is not capable USB transfer and emailing the files is not allowed nor really an option if it were allowed since we talk about a few hundred megabytes and the files are in a hierarchical file structure that I need to keep intact.

I can do all this on a Nexus but I can't do it on an iPad. That's the main reason I did never upgrade my iPad and why I think of getting a MBA.

David58117
Feb 11, 2013, 10:14 PM
can you built up a sytem where you have ppt's, word files, images, excel files, pics of various formats sorted in folders and subfolders to organize your projects and share entire folders via USB with several other computers? I know that Goodreader comes close for reading most of those files but you can't edit/work with them.

Keep in mind that you are not allowed to use email or cloud servises for IP reasons and the computers you are connecting to are for obvious reasons locked down and only allow connection via USB cable. Also the file structure is predefined by the needs of other users on the projects.

The only way I see to do this is with an open file system.

Also a very simple thing the iPad can't do: I want to quickly transfer a few ppt's and a few pdf's to my iPad to read on a plane. Impossible task since the computer is locked down and does not allow the installation of iTunes, the iPad is not capable USB transfer and emailing the files is not allowed nor really an option if it were allowed since we talk about a few hundred megabytes and the files are in a hierarchical file structure that I need to keep intact.

I can do all this on a Nexus but I can't do it on an iPad. That's the main reason I did never upgrade my iPad and why I think of getting a MBA.

I did all my transferring via wireless http/ftp remote access. Or I downloaded directly what I needed from online (like power points). If there was something I wanted on my iPad, I just connected to the IP from my main PC and directly transferred it. pretty seamless and simple.

Or I would upload to dropbox.

I'm not saying it's without limits, just telling how I used it.

If you're going to have a locked PC only accessible via USB then either you need to invest in an AirStash drive (a USB flashdrive that creates it's own network, accessible to transfer files wirelessly to the iPad), or Android tab/phone. However, you're still stuck with not being able to access those PC/Mac files...

If accessing/editing PC/Mac programs is your goal, then clearly the laptop wins. But that's a different argument..

andiwm2003
Feb 12, 2013, 09:28 AM
I did all my transferring via wireless http/ftp remote access. Or I downloaded directly what I needed from online (like power points). If there was something I wanted on my iPad, I just connected to the IP from my main PC and directly transferred it. pretty seamless and simple.

Or I would upload to dropbox.

I'm not saying it's without limits, just telling how I used it.

If you're going to have a locked PC only accessible via USB then either you need to invest in an AirStash drive (a USB flashdrive that creates it's own network, accessible to transfer files wirelessly to the iPad), or Android tab/phone. However, you're still stuck with not being able to access those PC/Mac files...

If accessing/editing PC/Mac programs is your goal, then clearly the laptop wins. But that's a different argument..

Unfortunately none of this addresses what I wrote before.
The PC is locked down so I can't use wifi/Airstash.
USB stick or USB cable is the only way to go.
IP restrictions doesn't allow to upload to a cloud service (encrypted or not).
Emailing the files to myself is not allowed and the files are too many and too large.

Anyway, the main point I was trying to answer was that an open filesystem that allows hierarchical organizations of files and free access of programs to the files is far superior compared to the locked down app centric way that apple is using in iOS.

David58117
Feb 12, 2013, 01:43 PM
Unfortunately none of this addresses what I wrote before.
The PC is locked down so I can't use wifi/Airstash.
USB stick or USB cable is the only way to go.
IP restrictions doesn't allow to upload to a cloud service (encrypted or not).
Emailing the files to myself is not allowed and the files are too many and too large.

Anyway, the main point I was trying to answer was that an open filesystem that allows hierarchical organizations of files and free access of programs to the files is far superior compared to the locked down app centric way that apple is using in iOS.

Airstash would certainly work. You've already stated you can transfer the files to USB stick, that's all you need. The drive generates its own network, so it's independent of the locked down pc.

Anyway, if android solves your issues, then great. I just think too many people go into the "the ipad cant do that!" mindset without really looking into solutions (like airstash).

andiwm2003
Feb 12, 2013, 03:38 PM
Airstash would certainly work. You've already stated you can transfer the files to USB stick, that's all you need. The drive generates its own network, so it's independent of the locked down pc.

Anyway, if android solves your issues, then great. I just think too many people go into the "the ipad cant do that!" mindset without really looking into solutions (like airstash).

The PC is locked down and does not allow to connect wirelessly to a Airstash (or the iPad when you use Apps like Goodreader or Airshare).

The PC does not allow adhoc networks or such. The only thing it allows is setting up a wifi VPN connection to the home base and then use the internet through their servers for email. But since IP is an issue email and cloud services are a no go.

rbrian
Feb 12, 2013, 04:17 PM
The PC is locked down and does not allow to connect wirelessly to a Airstash

It doesn't need to, so long as it has USB ports. The PC talks to USB, the Airstash then talks wirelessly to the iPad.

http://www.airstash.com/#specs

CJM
Feb 12, 2013, 05:08 PM
iPads sure are fun devices. Great for media/internet consumption. However, if you ever want to do work on one, you'll find its limitations start to become annoying. Fast.

To be honest, I'm looking forward to switching out my iPad for a thin laptop. All I use it for is the internet, YouTube, Netflix and Reddit. I have my PC for gaming and, sure I could buy a Bluetooth keyboard to write up my notes in Evernote for the iPad, I still wouldn't be able to code on the thing.

Roll on the 2013 MBA/Retina MBP.

David58117
Feb 13, 2013, 01:00 AM
The PC is locked down and does not allow to connect wirelessly to a Airstash (or the iPad when you use Apps like Goodreader or Airshare).

The PC does not allow adhoc networks or such. The only thing it allows is setting up a wifi VPN connection to the home base and then use the internet through their servers for email. But since IP is an issue email and cloud services are a no go.

As already pointed out, the PC does not connect to anything. All you'll do is plug in the USB stick like usual, transfer your files to it like usual, then once on the Airstash, the Airstash itself creates a wireless network for the iPad to connect to. The PC has no part, and can remain locked down.

That's the whole point of the Airstash - getting files off computers that cannot connect to a network itself.