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topgunn
Oct 2, 2005, 03:47 PM
I am selling three items. A Sawtooth Power Mac and PC versions of the nVidia GeForce3 and ATI 9800 Pro flashed with Mac ROMs to work on nearly all AGP Power Macs.

For the Sawtooth, I am asking $250 + actual shipping.
For the 9800 pro, I am asking $125 shipped.
For the GeForce3, I am asking $50 shipped.

For pictures of the Sawtooth, go here. (http://www.texasgunns.com/sawtooth.htm)
For pictures of the 9800 pro, go here. (http://www.texasgunns.com/9800.htm)
For pictures of the GeForce3, go here. (http://www.texasgunns.com/GF3.htm)

SAWTOOTH POWER MAC

First the Sawtooth. Apple refers to it as the "AGP Graphics" Power Mac but it is more commonly referred to buy its code name, Sawtooth. It was introduced in September 1999. I bought this machine a few months ago. I don't know anything about its history or prior owners. What I do know is that it works great. The 120mm fan was a bit loud so I replaced it with an Antec fan with built in speed control. When I bought the machine, it had OS X and OS 9.2.2 installed and both work great. Since I do not have the install disks, the hard drive will be wiped clean when it is shipped out. Again, this machine comes with NO OS or any other software; not even the original restore CD's. You should be able to get them on eBay for a reasonable price.

The computer has 640MB of RAM (3 x 128 and 1 x 256MB), a DVD-RAM drive, a Zip 100 drive, an ATI Rage 128 Pro PCI video card and a 450MHz G4 processor. There are a number of processor upgrades available for this machine. Two I know right off are a 1.6GHz G4 for $269 and a 2.0GHz G4 for $369. This machine, when configured properly, will rival a Mac mini in nearly all tasks. The major advantage over the mini is the ability to add numerous fast hard drives (EIDE, SATA, SCSI), add more memory, and add PCI cards.

This computer would be a great choice for an internet/email only machine or a game machine for those older nostalgic games. Personally, I bought it because I like to tinker but I don't want to spend a lot of money. It runs OS X remarkably well for a 5 year old machine. You can add an airport card to the machine.

On that note, it is a 5 year old machine. It has some scuffs and scratches, the top rear handle is a little loose (I don't have the right tool to tighten it down). It is missing the PCI covers on the back of the machine.

ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

The 9800 pro I bought to test on the Sawtooth. It is a PC version of the card which I flashed with a reduced version of the Mac ROM. I tested all available resolutions on my generic 17" CRT and Dell 2005FW; they all look great. The DVI and VGA ports both work great. You will see in the 2nd image on the linked page above that I have two monitors connected to it. Just as an FYI, when you run two monitors on one card, you split the VRAM between them. That is why each display shows 64MB of RAM. This card is able to run at AGP 2x, 4x, or 8x. As I said, it ran great in my Sawtooth. It will run in any AGP Power Mac and possibly the Cube but I am not sure about the Cube. To run in non Sawtooth G4 Power Macs, pins 3 and 11 will need to be taped.

NVIDIA GEFORCE3

The GeForce3 card was also bought to test in the Sawtooth. It is also a PC version flashed with a Mac ROM. After testing on my CRT and Dell, all resolutions looked good except for 1680x1050 (native resolution on the Dell). The text at this resolution at times had a phasing problem on the right side of each character making the text look fuzzy. If you plan on running this resolution, beware. This card has 64MB of RAM and is a solid upgrade of the standard Rage 128 Pro.



mbl42
Oct 2, 2005, 03:54 PM
How about a trade for your Sawtooth?

I have:

-Apex Portable DVD Player
-Performa 6400/200 w/ custom white paint job
-Pentium 2 PC
-iMac G3 Parts
-10GB ATA HD
-iPod 4G Skin NEW
-Nike Headphones
-Macally iKey Keyboard
-Envision 17" Flat Screen CRT
-PC100 RAM
-128MB CF Card
-16MB CF Card

Mord
Oct 2, 2005, 04:10 PM
are you willing to ship the GF3 to the uk?

topgunn
Oct 2, 2005, 04:10 PM
At this time, I will not accept any trades. Just cash.

By the way, I am in Houston in case anyone wants to pick up the Sawtooth.

ReanimationLP
Oct 2, 2005, 05:06 PM
How about a trade for your Sawtooth?

I have:

-Apex Portable DVD Player
-Performa 6400/200 w/ custom white paint job
-Pentium 2 PC
-iMac G3 Parts
-10GB ATA HD
-iPod 4G Skin NEW
-Nike Headphones
-Macally iKey Keyboard
-Envision 17" Flat Screen CRT
-PC100 RAM
-128MB CF Card
-16MB CF Card

Boy would shipping kill on that trade. X_X

Nice Powermac G4. I'm looking to score one personally for really cheap. Like a barebones that I'm gonna build into a nice G4 machine.

topgunn
Oct 2, 2005, 07:16 PM
are you willing to ship the GF3 to the uk?
I'll check into the rates tonight.

doucy2
Oct 2, 2005, 07:17 PM
how would the 9800 compare to a 9000

topgunn
Oct 2, 2005, 09:41 PM
how would the 9800 compare to a 9000
Since there is a sizable difference in the cards, I have never seen a head to head test of the two adapters. The two biggest factors in determining the difference, I would imagine, would be the specs of your computer and what you are doing with it. Newer computers will be able to better utilize the 9800 but if you are only browsing the Internet or using iMovie, you won't see much of a difference.

topgunn
Oct 3, 2005, 08:28 AM
are you willing to ship the GF3 to the uk?
I can't find a reasonable rate to ship the card to the UK with a tracking number. If you want to pay for shipping, the price of the card is $45.

Lord Blackadder
Oct 3, 2005, 11:01 AM
how would the 9800 compare to a 9000

The 9800 is approximately a gazillion times better. :)

You'll notice a huge difference when playing newish games like Halo, Call of Duty , Unreal Tournament 2004 and World of Warcraft.

topgunn
Oct 4, 2005, 04:42 PM
Make me an offer. I really don't want to eBay these items. No trades, though.

topgunn
Oct 5, 2005, 11:32 AM
9800 pro sold.

My offer on the Power Mac now includes free shipping.