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joecool85
Oct 3, 2005, 04:07 PM
Just gave it a good ol' wax job.

http://cordova.asap.um.maine.edu/~raymondj/imagehost/zx2_1.jpg
http://cordova.asap.um.maine.edu/~raymondj/imagehost/zx2_4.jpg
http://cordova.asap.um.maine.edu/~raymondj/imagehost/zx2_8.jpg
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w_parietti22
Oct 3, 2005, 04:11 PM
you have no taste. :p

zelmo
Oct 3, 2005, 04:18 PM
you have no taste. :p

That was kinda harsh, '22. Sure he's got taste...might not be very good taste, but he's got taste nonetheless. :D

iGav
Oct 3, 2005, 04:23 PM
Just out of interest... what is it?

Looks a bit Probish... but with different headlights? :confused:

Lord Blackadder
Oct 3, 2005, 04:35 PM
Just out of interest... what is it?

Looks a bit Probish... but with different headlights? :confused:

Escort ZX2, basically an escort coupe that survived the death of the original escort by 3 or four years. I believe it is dead now.

Ford was selling these super cheap for a while after the Focus came out.

joecool85
Oct 3, 2005, 04:53 PM
Yeah, its a 2001 ZX2. Ford started production of the Escort ZX2 in 1998, dropped the escort label in 2001 (the regular escorts died in 2000) and now it is the ZX2. 2003 was the last year of production for the ZX2. Nice sporty little car with the ever popular 2.0 zetec motor. And I think it is a very nice little car with lots of taste compared to civics, caveliers and neons...which is what I see all day on campus :rolleyes:

clayj
Oct 3, 2005, 05:03 PM
A sexy car like that deserves a sexy party!

http://content.ytmnd.com//58000/58195/image.gif

cheekyspanky
Oct 3, 2005, 06:00 PM
I've seen sexier.. :p

And where's this sexy party at..? (Cue Benny Hill music....)

katie ta achoo
Oct 3, 2005, 06:25 PM
I've seen sexier.. :p

And where's this sexy party at..? (Cue Benny Hill music....)

The party follows me! :p


regarding car:
I wish I had a ride.. in general.. Bla! No ride for me!

combatcolin
Oct 3, 2005, 06:35 PM
Sorry but that car is ugly.

And its not a Yank thing as Americans have made good looking cars.

w_parietti22
Oct 3, 2005, 06:50 PM
That was kinda harsh, '22. Sure he's got taste...might not be very good taste, but he's got taste nonetheless. :D

lol. forgot to add: ;)

juicedus
Oct 3, 2005, 07:00 PM
if we're talking about sexy cars....here's one

EJBasile
Oct 3, 2005, 07:08 PM
Yea, I wouldn't exactly call a Ford Escort or what ever that is sexy. I would say it is almost as sexy as a minivan. :)

American cars suck! :) ;)

(no offense to anyone here)

http://www.donovansusedcars.com/images/pic1/232247.jpg
(no that is not my car, I wouldn't be caught dead in one)

markjones05
Oct 3, 2005, 07:29 PM
American cars suck! :) ;)

(no offense to anyone here)
)

I love my Jeep

Mr. Anderson
Oct 3, 2005, 07:32 PM
So you wash and wax it then drive it on to a gravel/dirt lot?!?!

Is this your first car? And with those pics, I'm actually surprised no one has said anything that's would get reported..... ;)

D

joecool85
Oct 3, 2005, 07:36 PM
Hey, what's the matter with the pics? And who is so anal that they won't drive a car on dirt? I live in maine, its going to happen. And no, its my 3rd vehicle actually. I just really like it. For those of you that don't, I don't care. I think that for a cheap econo-box it really sets the standards quite high. 0-60 in 8 seconds, 33mpg and I love the way it looks. Show me a bone stock sephia that will do 0-60 in 8 seconds.

w_parietti22
Oct 3, 2005, 07:47 PM
(no that is not my car, I wouldn't be caught dead in one)

We all know where to find you.... In a Land Rover.

EJBasile
Oct 3, 2005, 08:15 PM
I love my Jeep

I have to say I really like jeeps, that is the older ones. I hate the liberty and the grand cherokee. They are trying to modernize the old style of jeeps but it is not working.

I saw the new Commander at a fair. Its ok, a little ugly on the outside, poorly designed rear seating, but I would rate it a 8 out of 10 in American SUVs.
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We all know where to find you.... In a Land Rover.
Thats Right! Land Rovers are the best and you know it.

markjones05
Oct 3, 2005, 08:20 PM
I have to say I really like jeeps, that is the older ones. I hate the liberty and the grand cherokee. They are trying to modernize the old style of jeeps but it is not working.

I saw the new Commander at a fair. Its ok, a little ugly on the outside, poorly designed rear seating, but I would rate it a 8 out of 10 in American SUVs.
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Thats Right! Land Rovers are the best and you know it.


I like the Liberty, its a cross between the wrangler and the cherokee. Great small SUV. Plus anything that has "Trail Rated" stamped on the side is alright with me.

wdlove
Oct 3, 2005, 08:39 PM
Hey, what's the matter with the pics? And who is so anal that they won't drive a car on dirt? I live in maine, its going to happen. And no, its my 3rd vehicle actually. I just really like it. For those of you that don't, I don't care. I think that for a cheap econo-box it really sets the standards quite high. 0-60 in 8 seconds, 33mpg and I love the way it looks. Show me a bone stock sephia that will do 0-60 in 8 seconds.

Don't take it personally joecool85. If the people here didn't like you they would be posting in your thread. I think the care looks very nice, good job with the wash and wax. The most important thing is that you love and enjoy the car. ;)

173080
Oct 3, 2005, 08:42 PM
American cars suck! :) ;)

I have to agree with you on that one.

I can't think of a single American or Japanese car I'd like to have.

The Europeans on the other hand really know how to make great automobiles. :D

mad jew
Oct 3, 2005, 08:44 PM
I really have to wonder about a country that turns a Holden Monaro into a Pontiac GTO...



By choice! :eek: :(

Roger1
Oct 3, 2005, 08:44 PM
The color is kind of ugly. But who am I to judge? My white Taurus looks like a rolling refrigerator. Although my previous car ('93 Villager, also white) looked even more like a rolling refigerator. :p It figures I'd buy 2 cars in a row (for myself-not my wife) that had the same color inside AND outside. Doh!!

Just kidding. The car looks nice. :)

mkrishnan
Oct 3, 2005, 08:46 PM
I have to say I really like jeeps, that is the older ones. I hate the liberty and the grand cherokee. They are trying to modernize the old style of jeeps but it is not working.

I liked the look of the boxy Cherokee a lot, too, personally...and the Wrangler is definitely very classic. :)

3rdpath
Oct 3, 2005, 08:56 PM
Land Rovers are the best and you know it.

my mechanic loves them...between the electrical problems and the suspension fixes, they'll put his kids thru college.

jessica.
Oct 3, 2005, 09:00 PM
You gave it a wax then drove it in the dirt?
Silly.

joecool85
Oct 3, 2005, 09:16 PM
You gave it a wax then drove it in the dirt?
Silly.

I think we already went over this. And besides, wax repels dirt/grime. Ever thought maybe that's why I waxed it? Are you saying that people that don't have paved roads should just not wax their vehicles and let them rot away because their paint will flake off and leave bare metal? Get over it.

Detlev
Oct 3, 2005, 09:59 PM
I think we already went over this. And besides, wax repels dirt/grime. Ever thought maybe that's why I waxed it? Are you saying that people that don't have paved roads should just not wax their vehicles and let them rot away because their paint will flake off and leave bare metal? Get over it.

Folks around here may not be from down east jc85 and don't understand the weather we get. You did the right thing by waxing it. Nice little car.

I'm more of a classic American car (read pre-70's) person, myself. Been around cars a long time. I can pull good aspects from almost any make. I've had the chance to drive just about every make under the sun. Hands down the Rolls wins for comfort and luxury. Doesn't mean I'll buy one anytime soon.. Anyone dissing your car just doesn't know.

Have fun/drive safe.

jessica.
Oct 3, 2005, 10:35 PM
I think we already went over this. And besides, wax repels dirt/grime. Ever thought maybe that's why I waxed it? Are you saying that people that don't have paved roads should just not wax their vehicles and let them rot away because their paint will flake off and leave bare metal? Get over it.

I say that and other people dis your car and you jump on me? Dang kid, settle down. I just thought it was silly...sorry I was voicing an opinion in a thread you created----where you were probably looking for attention to your wax job.

CompUser
Oct 3, 2005, 10:59 PM
Best Japanese Car = Infiniti G35x

joecool85
Oct 4, 2005, 09:07 AM
I say that and other people dis your car and you jump on me? Dang kid, settle down. I just thought it was silly...sorry I was voicing an opinion in a thread you created----where you were probably looking for attention to your wax job.

No, I wasn't looking for attention. It was actually just kind of on a whim that I posted the pics. The only reason I "jumped on you" is because around here you have to wax your car otherwise the body will rust out in a matter of a couple years. And actually, the more you drive on dirt/crappy roads, the more often you should wax your car. Hence why I don't understand why it is "silly" to wax my car then drive it on the dirt. And it's ok you think it's silly, you just didn't understand how it works around here ;)

Lord Blackadder
Oct 4, 2005, 11:53 AM
I really have to wonder about a country that turns a Holden Monaro into a Pontiac GTO...



By choice! :eek: :(

It wasn't my choice...I like the Monaro but they should have sold it as a Monaro. The GTO looks like a Grand Prix on steroids.

Thats Right! Land Rovers are the best and you know it.

Land Rovers have that "legendary" British build quality, which is the reason that the Brits lost their automotive industry. :p

Hey, what's the matter with the pics? And who is so anal that they won't drive a car on dirt? I live in maine, its going to happen. And no, its my 3rd vehicle actually. I just really like it. For those of you that don't, I don't care. I think that for a cheap econo-box it really sets the standards quite high. 0-60 in 8 seconds, 33mpg and I love the way it looks. Show me a bone stock sephia that will do 0-60 in 8 seconds.

A lot of people on this forum have cars that are beyond the means of most middle class Americans, and I guess it's easy to forget what most of us drive when you've got a $30k-plus ride. Still I'm happy with my '99 Nissan Altima. 0-60 in 8 flat as well. Heavier than your car but 20HP more. Plus I have a 5-speed manual which aids agressive driving and improves gas mileage. :D

I'm really anal about keeping my car clean but after a summer of archeological fieldwork it was a mess...Finally got it looking good again last month but I've never waxed it though, too lazy.

joecool85
Oct 4, 2005, 03:37 PM
It wasn't my choice...I like the Monaro but they should have sold it as a Monaro. The GTO looks like a Grand Prix on steroids.



Land Rovers have that "legendary" British build quality, which is the reason that the Brits lost their automotive industry. :p



A lot of people on this forum have cars that are beyond the means of most middle class Americans, and I guess it's easy to forget what most of us drive when you've got a $30k-plus ride. Still I'm happy with my '99 Nissan Altima. 0-60 in 8 flat as well. Heavier than your car but 20HP more. Plus I have a 5-speed manual which aids agressive driving and improves gas mileage. :D

I'm really anal about keeping my car clean but after a summer of archeological fieldwork it was a mess...Finally got it looking good again last month but I've never waxed it though, too lazy.

My car is a 5spd as well. I've actually never owned an auto...

I started with a 1994 Mercury Tracer - 5spd
then
1994 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 - also 5spd
and now
2001 Ford ZX2 - yet again, 5spd.

What can I say? Automatics are boring. And for those of you that will post otherwise, you will never change my mind. Just because some cars are fun automatic, doesn't mean they wouldn't be better manual (imo.)

mkrishnan
Oct 4, 2005, 03:46 PM
Land Rovers have that "legendary" British build quality, which is the reason that the Brits lost their automotive industry. :p

Hey now, with proper instruction from Americans (Ford) and Germans (BMW), there is no reason that the British cannot make fine, fine automobiles! :eek: ;) :D

Lord Blackadder
Oct 4, 2005, 03:58 PM
Hey now, with proper instruction from Americans (Ford) and Germans (BMW), there is no reason that the British cannot make fine, fine automobiles! :eek: ;) :D

LOL. :D

To be fair, the best (IMHO) British carmakers, TVR and Noble, are wholly British owned. But they don't count as far as mass-production cars go.

Nickygoat
Oct 4, 2005, 03:59 PM
Hey now, with proper instruction from Americans (Ford) and Germans (BMW), there is no reason that the British cannot make fine, fine automobiles! :eek: ;) :D
We lost 3 Land Rovers in Saudi Arabia. First one the engine blew up, second one the bonnet (hood for you septics ;) ) came off and tore most of the roof off and the third I drove into a rock while wadi bashing (had fun explaining that one). POS cars really, apart from the rock one.
Best thing that happened to the UK car industry was to be taken over by foreigners :p.
Is that car sexy in the States? I hope not :eek:

Nickygoat
Oct 4, 2005, 04:01 PM
LOL. :D

To be fair, the best (IMHO) British carmakers, TVR and Noble, are wholly British owned. But they don't count as far as mass-production cars go.
TVR (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3932531.stm) isn't British anymore - and their build quality is worse than anything else

mkrishnan
Oct 4, 2005, 04:06 PM
Speaking of all this...mmm...whatever really happened with the new Lotus Elise that uses a Toyota engine? I don't think I've ever seen one on the road, which surprises me considering I see a lot of cars that cost a lot more, were bought for eye candy appeal, and have a lot less of it than the Elise does. Plus it has a cute name. :)

Lord Blackadder
Oct 4, 2005, 04:10 PM
We lost 3 Land Rovers in Saudi Arabia. First one the engine blew up, second one the bonnet (hood for you septics ;) ) came off and tore most of the roof off and the third I drove into a rock while wadi bashing (had fun explaining that one). POS cars really, apart from the rock one.
Best thing that happened to the UK car industry was to be taken over by foreigners :p.
Is that car sexy in the States? I hope not :eek:

What were you doing destroying Land Rovers in Saudi Arabia? In the military?

What you need is a Hummer (a REAL one, not the girly-man poser H2 or H3). We've got thousands in the US shuttling yuppies and high-powered executives between Starbucks that need to be transplanted to a more appropriate environment...

TVR isn't British anymore - and their build quality is worse than anything else

Ahh, forgot about that. Bad luck, chaps. Bad build quality or no, I'd sell a testicle for one. My dad actually had a 1969 TVR Vixen S1, with a Ford Cortina GT engine. Awsome little car, like a go kart. Nothing like today's TVRs though.

Lord Blackadder
Oct 4, 2005, 04:15 PM
Speaking of all this...mmm...whatever really happened with the new Lotus Elise that uses a Toyota engine? I don't think I've ever seen one on the road, which surprises me considering I see a lot of cars that cost a lot more, were bought for eye candy appeal, and have a lot less of it than the Elise does. Plus it has a cute name. :)

I saw one in upstate New York this summer....and it wasn't even the US-spec one, but the older Series 1 model with the Rover engine. I seriously considered killing the guy, stuffing his body in the trunk and driving off in the Lotus.


Then I remembered their was no trunk. :o ;)

Nickygoat
Oct 4, 2005, 04:28 PM
What were you doing destroying Land Rovers in Saudi Arabia? In the military?

What you need is a Hummer (a REAL one, not the girly-man poser H2 or H3). We've got thousands in the US shuttling yuppies and high-powered executives between Starbucks that need to be transplanted to a more appropriate environment...
Yes. Part of Al-Yamamah. Selling the Saudis dodgy British kit, and then taking the cash to repair it - we're not as stupid as we look ;). To be fair to Land Rover we also went through a fair number of Isuzu Troopers, Nissan Patrols, Mitsubishi Pajeros (they caused a good laugh amongst the Spanish speakers). None of them lasted very long. Amazing what you can do do to a car when someone else is paying. The only good ones were Landcruisers. Someone tested a Hummer but they weren't so good for lugging the shopping back, and were a bit of a target so that was a no-no


Ahh, forgot about that. Bad luck, chaps. Bad build quality or no, I'd sell a testicle for one. My dad actually had a 1969 TVR Vixen S1, with a Ford Cortina GT engine. Awsome little car, like a go kart. Nothing like today's TVRs though.
The Russian chappie hasn't yet managed to improve the quality but I'd love one too. The Typhon would do nicely :)

mkrishnan
Oct 4, 2005, 04:33 PM
Then I remembered their was no trunk. :o ;)

Nice! :eek: :D

iJon
Oct 4, 2005, 04:59 PM
I like the Liberty, its a cross between the wrangler and the cherokee. Great small SUV. Plus anything that has "Trail Rated" stamped on the side is alright with me.
I have a Liberty and I drive the s*** out of it. I put that 4WD to good uses all the time. If it wasn't for all my skid protection and rock rails no telling how bad of a shape my Lib would be in.

It's a fun vehicle but I think I'll be venturing back to the Japanese world of cars after this. When it comes to my Jeep, I offroad a lot. Not because I need to but because I make excuses to go do it :).

jon

igucl
Oct 4, 2005, 05:15 PM
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Is that car sexy in the States? I hope not :eek:[/QUOTE]


Certainly not. :rolleyes:

EJBasile
Oct 4, 2005, 09:47 PM
We lost 3 Land Rovers in Saudi Arabia. First one the engine blew up, second one the bonnet (hood for you septics ;) ) came off and tore most of the roof off and the third I drove into a rock while wadi bashing (had fun explaining that one). POS cars really, apart from the rock one.
Best thing that happened to the UK car industry was to be taken over by foreigners :p.
Is that car sexy in the States? I hope not :eek:

Don't be dissing Land Rovers. Which model were they?

I just too my rover in for a power steering leak and a sticky door lock. :)

http://www.us-auto.ru/cars-usa-images/Offer_html_6c3dbf9f.jpg They are beautiful cars, not mechanically or electrically, but they look awesome in my book.

combatcolin
Oct 5, 2005, 04:15 AM
Hey now, with proper instruction from Americans (Ford) and Germans (BMW), there is no reason that the British cannot make fine, fine automobiles! :eek: ;) :D

British built cars are up there with the best of them.

Shame we couldn't quite get labour relations right...

Management and Unions spent more time plotting against each other than making cars.. :(

mkrishnan
Oct 5, 2005, 05:12 AM
Management and Unions spent more time plotting against each other than making cars.. :(

We waste so much time with this in the US as well...it was one of the most depressing things to me about working in the industry. :(

And I do really respect the British style as far as cars go...I was just having a little fun. :o I drive a Mazda6, but if quality issues, the distance to the nearest dealer, and my current grad student status hadn't impaired, I would definitely have gotten a Mini instead. I really had my heart set on one.

Lord Blackadder
Oct 5, 2005, 09:45 AM
To be fair to Land Rover we also went through a fair number of Isuzu Troopers, Nissan Patrols, Mitsubishi Pajeros (they caused a good laugh amongst the Spanish speakers). None of them lasted very long. Amazing what you can do do to a car when someone else is paying. The only good ones were Landcruisers.

Wouldn't that be funny if the Spaniards named a car the "wanker"? :D

Here in the States Landcruisers are pretty expensive (you can't get one without all the luxery appointments in the $40-50k range) but they're built like a tank.

Maybe the Saudis should take a page from Libya's book and buy some Lamborghini LM002 trucks. Countach engine, yeah!

Someone tested a Hummer but they weren't so good for lugging the shopping back, and were a bit of a target so that was a no-no

Hmmm, I guess a Hummer makes a different sort of statement in the Middle East than it does here.... :rolleyes:

840quadra
Oct 5, 2005, 09:52 AM
Yeah, its a 2001 ZX2. Ford started production of the Escort ZX2 in 1998, dropped the escort label in 2001 (the regular escorts died in 2000) and now it is the ZX2. 2003 was the last year of production for the ZX2. Nice sporty little car with the ever popular 2.0 zetec motor. And I think it is a very nice little car with lots of taste compared to civics, caveliers and neons...which is what I see all day on campus :rolleyes:

I can respect the ZX2

I got to drive one at an autocross a year ago. The guy that had it had aftermarket suspension, sport exhaust (not loud) and some nice wheels and tires. The engine is quite smooth, and with the suspension the chassis is quite nimble!

I drive what others don't like too, a 90 VW Jetta coupe, VW Rabbit, and VW Scirocco, so don't feel bad :)

Abstract
Oct 5, 2005, 12:16 PM
We lost 3 Land Rovers in Saudi Arabia. First one the engine blew up, second one the bonnet (hood for you septics ;) ) came off and tore most of the roof off and the third I drove into a rock while wadi bashing (had fun explaining that one). POS cars really, apart from the rock one.


You were using the "Windows ME" of cars in Saudi Arabia. Sorry, but those Rovers aren't the best, are they. ;)

Nickygoat
Oct 5, 2005, 01:34 PM
Don't be dissing Land Rovers. Which model were they?
V8 Discoveries. Great engine (the classic Rover V8) but that was about it.

Wouldn't that be funny if the Spaniards named a car the "wanker"?
LOL. The naming thing gets a lot of companies, sometimes with hilarious consequences.
Here in the States Landcruisers are pretty expensive (you can't get one without all the luxery appointments in the $40-50k range) but they're built like a tank.
Same price roughly over there but no-one really cares. Saudi is such a c***hole that the only way anyone will go and work there is to bribe them massively. Happy days :D

Maybe the Saudis should take a page from Libya's book and buy some Lamborghini LM002 trucks. Countach engine, yeah!
Saw a couple over there but I thought they were discontinued a long time ago. and wasn't it basically a tractor with the Countach engine?

Hmmm, I guess a Hummer makes a different sort of statement in the Middle East than it does here....
Just slightly ;)

You were using the "Windows ME" of cars in Saudi Arabia. Sorry, but those Rovers aren't the best, are they.
I couldn't recommend a Land Rover to anyone - even someone I didn't like :D . So many problems.
Rover didn't have any problems - it was all the fault of Jeremy Clarkson (http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-1580901,00.html)

Lord Blackadder
Oct 5, 2005, 02:11 PM
Saw a couple over there but I thought they were discontinued a long time ago. and wasn't it basically a tractor with the Countach engine?

I've never seen one in person, but they look very '80s. And I would never choose an Italian vehicle for military use. Why would you want a super-complex V-12 in a military truck? Imagine the maintainance woes - it would make the Landrover's look like swiss watches by comaprison.

Have you any experience with those Austrian Pinzgauers or Mercedes Unimogs? Ugly b*stards but extremely capable by all accounts.


I couldn't recommend a Land Rover to anyone - even someone I didn't like :D . So many problems.
Rover didn't have any problems - it was all the fault of Jeremy Clarkson (http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-1580901,00.html)

I find Clarkson less offensive than many - he's got a big mouth but he makes me laugh. Top Gear is great.

groovebuster
Oct 6, 2005, 10:56 AM
I've never seen one in person, but they look very '80s.
Because they are from the 80's...

I've seen some ofthem in person and they were very impressive/huge compared to other cars back then. It was before the Hummer saw the light of day...

And I would never choose an Italian vehicle for military use. Why would you want a super-complex V-12 in a military truck?
As a status symbol! At that time back then it was the fastest off-road vehicle one could buy! The Saudis loved that car!

Imagine the maintainance woes - it would make the Landrover's look like swiss watches by comaprison.
I don't think that for somebody who is drivinhg that vehicle the maintenance is an important decision factor...

Lord Blackadder
Oct 6, 2005, 01:26 PM
I don't think that for somebody who is drivinhg that vehicle the maintenance is an important decision factor...

True, it was partially a status symbol, but buying an unreliable truck for military operations is a good way to get soldiers killed.

When the US Army held trials for the vehicle to replace the Jeep, a chrysler-powered Lamborghini LM002-like prototype participated in the trials. In the course of testing the vehicle was destroyed, and the Army judged it's performance inferior to that of the Hummer (having a gasoline engine was one siginificant drawback, since gas explodes while diesel mererly burns). That, coupled with the fact that the Humvee was a US design ensured that the Lambo would not be accepted for use by the US military.

jayb2000
Oct 6, 2005, 03:55 PM
I like the Liberty, its a cross between the wrangler and the cherokee. Great small SUV. Plus anything that has "Trail Rated" stamped on the side is alright with me.

Huh, I thought the Liberty was a cross between a cherokee and a neon (seeing as how Dodge owns them both)!
Sorry, the liberty is just ugly. Its got as much appeal as a CRV, RAV4, etc.

On the other hand, I like most jeeps prior to 1990, and I still love the wranglers. Just got an 05 Rubicon Unlimited (sweeet) and its a blast. But the Grand Cherokees are just too small inside and not tough enough outside. The old Cherokees were good, it was a sad day when they dropped that for the liberty.

vixy
Oct 6, 2005, 04:06 PM
not really sexy is it ;)

its your pride and joy though :)

pseudobrit
Oct 6, 2005, 04:19 PM
My brother has one of those. Sexy is not the first word that pops into mind when I see it.

Xtremehkr
Oct 6, 2005, 10:20 PM
What's the new supersized Jeep called, it has to be one of the ugliest things I have ever seen.