What's So Special About The iPod Compared to Others...

[DarkNetworks]

Title says it all...
Why don't people buy other products like Creative's ZEN and stuff that can do what the iPod do and with a cheaper price...wht makes the iPod soo special?

[MacDawg]

Seamless integration with iTunes, downloading from iTMS, great interface and cool design

Woof, Woof – Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

[wordmunger]

Marketing, style, convenience. In that order.

[r6girl]

Marketing, style, convenience. In that order.


i second that.

[bankshot]

For me, it's the seamless integration. I love the fact that after I play stuff on my iPod, it updates the play count and last played time, next time I sync with iTunes. I build several Smart Playlists based on this info, and if the integration weren't so tight between iTunes and iPod, I wouldn't get that data. Speaking of Smart Playlists, the fact that the iPod supports them is also excellent.

Most iPod competitors are only accessible on the Mac, if at all, by mounting as a disk and copying files back and forth. Not only does this take manual effort (no auto sync), but it doesn't update the metadata I want to track. For me, the convenience of this integration is by far the biggest feature.

Sure, the interface is nice, it looks nice, fashionable, etc. I do like that it's smaller and less "clunky" physically than competitors, but even that is very much a secondary consideration to me.

The one thing I do hate about the iPod is its lack of gapless playback. A search of my posts here will certainly tell you that... :D That issue is also very important to me, so I have actively searched for a replacement that does gapless. So far I've found nothing that even comes close to the seamless integration you get with the iPod, and most of the competitors are sketchy at best on gapless. There's just no other game in town besides the iPod, especially for the Mac.

Please please please, let generation 5 introduce gapless as a "new feature" (even though I consider it a bug fix)! ;)

[Danksi]

Title says it all...
Why don't people buy other products like Creative's ZEN and stuff that can do what the iPod do and with a cheaper price...wht makes the iPod soo
special?

I'd say marketing... I've not seen any Zen adverts, but loads for the iPod.

Even so, I bought the Zen Xtra 60Gb early last year in the UK. It was the biggest available and although I was drawn to the iPod it was only 40Gb's and I knew we needed more than that for our collection.

As it turns out there were battery issues with the iPods at the time, so I think I made a good purchase.

Personally I don't have a preference to either these days. The Zen has served us well.

I'm keen to try the Nomad plugin for iTunes on our iMac when it arrives next week.

[gwuMACaddict]

because it's better than every other mp3 player on the market...

[balamw]

what makes the iPod soo special?
iTunes is what did it for me. I had a Rio S30 MP3 player, and was getting frustrated with the device's capacity and the software used to update the contents of the player. iTunes changed that and I soon picked up the iPod.

What really differentiates the iPod from other similar devices IMHO is the user interface, mainly the wheel which lets you scroll as fast or slow as you want through a long list. The simplicity of the UI is what really sold me on the iPod. Buttons, game-pad like controls (like on my Rio), linear scroll devices (Zen Touch) and thumbwheels (like on my Sony Clie) just don't seem to have the same "feel" in your hand.

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[puckhead193]

it has the "cool factor"

[notjustjay]

I remember when the iPod first came out it was hailed as pretty revolutionary in terms of its sheer size, something that Apple is apparently still keen to try and capitalize on (mini, nano, etc.)

At the time, I owned what was probably the very first hard-drived based mp3 player, the Creative Nomad Jukebox (I think that's what it was called). The idea of being able to carry that much music (6 whole gigs!) was revolutionary and appealing, but the Jukebox left a lot to be desired. It was huge, for one -- like an early-model discman. It took 4 AA batteries, that lasted maybe 6 hours altogether. Song transfers were done over USB and were very slow. And every time you turned it on, it had to boot up the firmware, load up the song database, and so on -- which consumed lots of battery power. I swear half of those 6 hours of battery life was used up just waiting for the thing to load. Oh yeah, and if you left the unit idle for longer than a few minutes, it shut itself off again...

So, while I loved the concept, the Jukebox quickly became impractical and I gave up. Then my friend showed me his iPod, which had the built-in rechargeable battery, fast Firewire interface, and most importantly, had a sleep mode! Not having to restart the whole machine every time you wanted to play music made it a big winner, in my books.

I think momentum has just carried it on ever since...

[robcts]

I like the iPod look/feel compared to the others.

[Silencio]

None of the other MP3 players have come close to matching the iPod's user interface. The scrollwheel was a masterstroke, and Apple has only refined it and made it better with each generation of the product.

In general, the uncluttered controls are very easy and intuitive to grasp.

iTunes, and the iPod's seamless integration therein, is also a big factor. Apple's software expertise gives them a HUGE advantage over the Sonys and Dells of the world.

A lot of the iPod's success is attributed to flashy marketing, but I don't really buy that: after all, the iPod was already the top-selling MP3 player before the dancing silhouettes hit the small screen.

[DaveP]

it has the "cool factor"

I second the cool factor. The target audience is more concerned with coolness than other demographics.

[MattG]

1. Just plain cool looking
2. Integration with the greatest music player on the planet.

[Chappers]

and all the add-ons that are for the iPod.

[DaftUnion]

What people have said before with the marketing factor of it, but besides that, the touch wheel of course (it's so simple I've seen people understand how it works within 2-3minutes--and these are people who never use computers at all) the look of course with it, iTunes integration, size factor. Hell, even the packaging before you even get the iPod out of the box lets you know your in for something special. Hands down Apple probably has the best packaging out of any company.

[dubbz]

Hands down Apple probably has the best packaging out of any company.

I'll give you that. It's better than the rather crowded (text, colours) packaging used by many other companies.

[emaja]

What makes it so special? The fact that Apple took the time to design a player that was simple to use with elegant controls that are so intuitve that even my neo-luddite wife can use it with ease is a good place to start.

Perfectly integrated with the world's largest online source of music is another.

That's two biggies that conver what Creative could not do. I have a friend that has the 40GB Zen and that is a hodgepodge of buttons and a poor display that goes with a cluttered interface. I always had to look at the buttons to figure out what I wanted to do. Bad ergonomics on the thing.

[KD7IWP]

Because when the ipod is in your pocket you can still adjust the volume through the layer of fabric :)

[weg]

Title says it all...
Why don't people buy other products like Creative's ZEN and stuff that can do what the iPod do and with a cheaper price...wht makes the iPod soo special?

Marketing. And because everybody has one. What makes Windows so special that everybody buys it instead of OS X?

[amin]

For me it's the click wheel, integration w/ iTunes, and looks.

I would like to see better resistance to scratching, user-replaceable batteries, and gapless playback.

[barneygumble]

It was just such a bloody good idea when i saw it in a magazine in April 2003, i has to have one, however i was on windows and had to wait till june to get one, after i got i was in love, it is still sitting next to me playing music right now :cool:

[illegalprelude]

it came down to iTunes for me. Im a huge sony fan, only eletronics I buy is theirs, minus my Mac. I also wanted something diff. then the iPod and Sony had their 20GB HDwalksmens and I wanted it. It came with a slick dock and it was black and color screen for photo's and etc. But, it wouldnt work with iTunes. I already had all my songs in iTunes and on my Mac, and that would read with iTunes and i didnt have my songs on my PC so iPod mini it is. Dont get me wrong, iLove my mini but i was aiming to get the sony one

[rainman::|:|]

design, interface
that's it, so simple yet completely overlooked in consumer electronics.

[unfaded]

To the poster of this thread...

I think you should go out to an Apple Store and hold one. Then you'll understand.

[PlaceofDis]

the scroll wheel.

[raggedjimmi]

its not that the iPod is excellent, its just that everything else is of a terrible quality.
the iPod is far from being what it could be, technically speaking. WiFi... bluetooth... backlit buttons... longer battery life...
but its the best we can get and just feels so good to use.

^my take on it.

[QCassidy352]

At first, it wasn't dominant. But it was a little better in a lot of ways - better integration, smaller size, better aesthetics, better interface.

Based off of those (admittedly not overwhelming) advantages, the ipod got relatively popular. And then it became a pop icon.

That's really the story here. It's better than anything else out there, but it's not THAT much better. Come on; I have 2 ipods (shuffle and mini) and am as much of an apple fan as anyone, but there are other good players out there. Maybe not quite as good, but good enough that if the market was divided simply by quality, apple would have a good share, but not market domination.

But it's part of pop culture now; it's cool. At a certain point these things take on a life of their own.

When ipods first came out I was blown away, and wanted one (and eventually got a 1st gen 5 gig :) ). But a lot of other people, including people who now have ipods, just laughed at me, "taken with yet another apple product." They knew what it did, but it wasn't until it became a part of the culture that they actually wanted one.

[jestershinra]

Of all the questions I get asked, this is near the top and I've answered it many times.


Firstly, and mostly, it's marketing. Apple got the iPod to symbolize cool and hip and in doing so secured the majority of the market. If you ask most teens what mp3 player they want, what do you think they'll say? Probably the same thing with most adults.

Secondly, the interface is excellent. This is second because Apple could have marketed a worse interface and still succeeded, but the iPod interface is truly terrific, and it all hinges on the scroll wheel. It's a very mature, simplistic, and advanced design that's a clear winner among MP3 players.

[Phatpat]

the scroll wheel.

Agreed. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: It's the interface that makes the iPod stand out.

[tech4all]

Title says it all...
Why don't people buy other products like Creative's ZEN and stuff that can do what the iPod do and with a cheaper price...wht makes the iPod soo special?

I'm not sure if it's the Zen or the Nomad, but the button layout on that thing just sucks, IMO. The display is on the front and all buttons are on the side. And it's larger than the iPod. Holding the unit to press the buttons and view the display is very awkward compared to having buttons on the front. I don't know why they engineered that way. It just seems like they were going for a "cool" look but not comfortable interaction.

The main argument I've heard as to why other's are better than the iPod is because:

• cheaper
• voice recorder - I haven't used a voice recorder for years. For me it's a useless feature.
• radio/FM tuner - I almost never listen to the radio. Another useless feature for me.

Besides if you really want those features (voice recorder and radio/FM tuner), you get the accessories for iPod anyways.

The main reason why I like the iPod is because it has the simple button layout; the click wheel. I could click with my eye's closed. Other players have them laid out to where you really can't click as fast or smoothly which would be a circular motion.

[mkrishnan]

I bought one for the same reason I bought an iBook -- because I wanted the Apple community experience. :)

[iDM]

Title says it all...
Why don't people buy other products like Creative's ZEN and stuff that can do what the iPod do and with a cheaper price...wht makes the iPod soo special?

Seamless integration, seamless design with iBook, iMac not as much with Pb and PowerMac. Flawless design(Apple is known for the hiding of any hardware screws, bolts etc. on their iPods, try to figure out how to take apart an iPod Mini, or Shuffle. I've taken apart a 3rd Gen but that was hell.) Anyway that plus the fact all other offerings just dont do it for me in the look department, they all remind me of chunky PC's. I guess you could argue Dell Laptops match their DJ mp3 player very good in that way, I would not be satisfied by having either sitting on my desk.

[ham_man]

It is an MP3 player, and only an MP3 player. It succeeds by focusing on one task and achieving it flawlessly, while alot of other MP3 players try to be things that they are not, and the main feature, being an MP3 player, gets cluttered in the process.

[QCassidy352]

It is an MP3 player, and only an MP3 player. It succeeds by focusing on one task and achieving it flawlessly, while alot of other MP3 players try to be things that they are not, and the main feature, being an MP3 player, gets cluttered in the process.

I hope that's not about to change...

[Mord]

because a trained ape, without the training designed all the other players.

[mkrishnan]

because a trained ape, without the training designed all the other players.

You leave Steve Ballmer out of this! :mad:

:eek: ;) :D

[840quadra]

Easy to use, chic, clean, works well, looks good, first with 1000 songs in a pocket, ITMS, iTunes, Windows compatible, Mac compatible, Doubles as a Firewire or USB drive, nice screen (old and new Black and White, and color), stable, good battery life, light, durable, good audio quality, store notes, store pictures (nano and photo), store contacts, play games, nice calendar, secure (nano), world clock (nano), Dual Processor (not sure on nano), and 840quadra has one :) .

http://forums.macrumors.com/image.php?u=47064&type=profile&dateline=1127904880

[Mord]

and apple does not give stupid figures "4000 songs on a 5GB player at 32KBps WMA, 28 hour battery life"

anything below 128KBps sounds like crap no matter the format, so the 4000 songs figure is null, and with the lower bit rate more songs can fit onto the flash memory so it increases the battery life, thats why some audiophiles complain about battery life being way too short as they encode at crazy high bit rates.

[Lacero]

The seemingly simplistic design of the scroll hiding powerful easy-to-use functionality.

The iPod UI design, navigation and intangibles.

The cottage industry of accessories tailor made for the iPod.

The iPod/iTunes/iTMS combination. Unbeatable.

The best digital music jukebox (iTunes) on Mac or PC.