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MacRumors
Jan 30, 2013, 10:14 AM
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Apple's decision to launch the 128 GB iPad (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/29/apple-to-launch-128-gb-ipad-on-february-5-for-799929/) in February seems to make rumors of a new model in March or April appear unlikely, suggesting the fall as a more likely time for a refresh.

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iLounge (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/next-ipad-ipad-mini-claimed-for-march/) was among the sites to suggest a Spring 2013 date for the launch of the iPad 5, although the site has since backtracked (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/25/ipad-5-set-for-october-debut-with-design-similar-to-ipad-mini-iphone-5s-and-lower-cost-iphone-moving-forward/) from that claim to suggest that the device will be arriving in or around October. The generally reliable KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has also predicted a Q3 launch (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/16/apples-2013-product-roadmap-predictions-multiple-iphones-retina-ipad-mini-all-retina-macbook-pros/).

World of Apple's Alex Brooks (http://www.worldofapple.com/archives/2013/01/29/128gb-ipad-release-contains-a-message/) notes that Apple's release of the 128 GB iPad next week lends weight to the idea that Apple will henceforth be returning to an annual release cycle for new iPad models, keeping the tablet more closely in line with iPhone launches and major iOS updates.This is where the 128GB iPad comes in, the release sends a clear message that despite rumours to the contrary Apple will not release a new iPad in March or April and the next update to the iPad will come in October alongside the second iPad mini, iOS 7 and will ready Apple for another blockbuster year end.Brooks notes that it would be strange for Apple to return to releasing the iPad midway through the iPhone/iOS cycle, suggesting that the double update for the iPad in 2012 was an opportunity to both align the iPad with the launch schedule for the rest of Apple's device lineup and iOS and to make a wholesale shift to the new Lightning connector.

Article Link: 128 GB iPad Launch Suggestive of Fall iPad 5 Release (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/30/128-gb-ipad-launch-suggestive-of-fall-ipad-5-release/)



unlimitedx
Jan 30, 2013, 10:16 AM
Makes sense

MisterKeeks
Jan 30, 2013, 10:17 AM
Now, the people complaining about the short timeframes for release will have to wait until fall... ;)

applesith
Jan 30, 2013, 10:21 AM
Makes sense for Christmas quarter blitz. I guess there is no need to do Spring and Fall block buster items to spread consumer interest and buying into two different times. Interesting.

Rocketman
Jan 30, 2013, 10:24 AM
We only this week saw leaks of the new casing. It will take months to ramp the new unit and we all know there will be a wide worldwide rollout of tens of millions of units. Logistically alone it would be surprising to see it released before September.

Rocketman

DarkWinter
Jan 30, 2013, 10:32 AM
Aren't they having enough issues meeting demand as it is without squeezing all their new product releases to within 2 months of each other and before the crucial last quarter? Surely this will be close to the iPhone release cycle unless they bring that forward to July/August.

Szarky
Jan 30, 2013, 10:33 AM
We only this week saw leaks of the new casing. It will take months to ramp the new unit and we all know there will be a wide worldwide rollout of tens of millions of units. Logistically alone it would be surprising to see it released before September.

Rocketman

Very good point. They keep adding to the list of countries for every release. Could you imagine by the time Fall comes around what a huge release that will be! They might even do a simultaneous worldwide release instead of releasing it in different groups of countries like they've done in the past.

medi.freak
Jan 30, 2013, 10:35 AM
and the question remains: To buy or not to buy.

I really WANT an iPad Mini, but I don't NEED it. And I know I will be pissed if there is a Retina one around the corner.

I will wait. :o

Szarky
Jan 30, 2013, 10:35 AM
Aren't they having enough issues meeting demand as it is without squeezing all their new product releases to within 2 months of each other and before the crucial last quarter? Surely this will be close to the iPhone release cycle unless they bring that forward to July/August.

That's been the latest rumor hasn't it, that iPhone 5S to release in July now I thought.

So iPad(+Mini) = Oct.
iPhone = July
I could live with that if true. Makes sense to release to iPad closer to the Christmas rush. New model=big consumer interest. iPhone earlier in the year as they can never make enough of them so don't want supply constrained into Christmas rush.

RJCP
Jan 30, 2013, 10:43 AM
It made no sense whatsoever to release a new iPad in the spring. iPad 4 last October was both an opportunity to align the whole 2012 iOS ecosystem with lightning connector and also to upgrade the iPad 3 processor which was seriously slow for that screen.

October seems like the obvious choice for updating the whole iPad segment (retina display on the mini and a new redesigned retina iPad) and also to release the 5S and iOS 7. I don't really think that iOS 6 will receive any further updates until then. They'll probably keep improving the maps service and concentrate on a new iOS which will surely have at least major app redesigns.

toughboy
Jan 30, 2013, 10:48 AM
Once a year update on a major product line does not feel right to me..

goobot
Jan 30, 2013, 10:52 AM
Why they didn't just release the iPad 4 with the 128G in Febuary is beyond me.

ghost187
Jan 30, 2013, 10:52 AM
This was obvious. Only thing that is not fully certain now is the release date of the iPhone 5s (June-September). Also I expect the iPads to be refreshed on September not October, that's a bit too late.

Menel
Jan 30, 2013, 10:57 AM
That's been the latest rumor hasn't it, that iPhone 5S to release in July now I thought.

So iPad(+Mini) = Oct.
iPhone = July
I could live with that if true. Makes sense to release to iPad closer to the Christmas rush. New model=big consumer interest. iPhone earlier in the year as they can never make enough of them so don't want supply constrained into Christmas rush.That would imply.
1. They make no significant API changes for iOS7, and app developers don't need a beta period. The 7th iPhone and iOS 7 launch simultaneously.
2. They launch the 7th iPhone on iOS 6. iOS 7 doesn't launch until fall with iPads.
3. They launch the 7th iPhone with non-beta'd iOS 7, and all our apps blow up worse than ever before, with a LONG period to being fixed.

Snowy_River
Jan 30, 2013, 11:06 AM
That's been the latest rumor hasn't it, that iPhone 5S to release in July now I thought.

So iPad(+Mini) = Oct.
iPhone = July
I could live with that if true. Makes sense to release to iPad closer to the Christmas rush. New model=big consumer interest. iPhone earlier in the year as they can never make enough of them so don't want supply constrained into Christmas rush.

That's pretty much what I was thinking. There's a degree to which the iPad releases being in March never made sense. My parents bought my nephew an iPad a couple years ago for Christmas, but almost didn't because they knew that there was likely to be a new model in just a couple of months. I imagine that a lot of people follow the same line of reasoning, with many of them coming to the conclusion that they shouldn't buy, or worse (from Apple's perspective) that they should buy a recently released Android device.

It made no sense whatsoever to release a new iPad in the spring. iPad 4 last October was both an opportunity to align the whole 2012 iOS ecosystem with lightning connector and also to upgrade the iPad 3 processor which was seriously slow for that screen.

October seems like the obvious choice for updating the whole iPad segment (retina display on the mini and a new redesigned retina iPad) and also to release the 5S and iOS 7. I don't really think that iOS 6 will receive any further updates until then. They'll probably keep improving the maps service and concentrate on a new iOS which will surely have at least major app redesigns.

The only way that I saw it making sense was if Apple was choosing to move to a 6 month release cycle, making more minor changes/updates as they went. Under those circumstances, having an April/October refresh time would be a pretty good schedule. Now, the question about whether a six month cycle makes sense is another question and I've seen reasonable arguments on both sides. For me, suffice it to say that I'm quite happy with an annual release cycle.

and the question remains: To buy or not to buy.

I really WANT an iPad Mini, but I don't NEED it. And I know I will be pissed if there is a Retina one around the corner.

I will wait. :o

I feel similar. I have a 64GB iPad 2 that serves me quite well. However, I've been saying for some time that when the 128GB model came out, that's when I'd really look to upgrade. Now, I had expected that the release of the 128GB model would see the whole product line move up in capacity (32GB for $499/$629, 64GB for $599/$729, and 128GB for $699/$829). The fact that they added it as a more expensive model, and my strong suspicion that the whole line will move up when the new major update is released, does hold me back.

But still, there's now a 128GB model to be had...

Tempting.... Very tempting....

hlfway2anywhere
Jan 30, 2013, 11:09 AM
Why they didn't just release the iPad 4 with the 128G in Febuary is beyond me.

i'm pretty sure that is, in fact, exactly what they are doing.

macs4nw
Jan 30, 2013, 11:24 AM
.....and the next update to the iPad will come in October alongside the second iPad mini, iOS 7 and will ready Apple for another blockbuster year end.....

Article Link: 128 GB iPad Launch Suggestive of Fall iPad 5 Release (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/30/128-gb-ipad-launch-suggestive-of-fall-ipad-5-release/)

For everybody's sake, let's see if they can do better with their supply pipeline this time around.

Ungibbed
Jan 30, 2013, 11:29 AM
So much product in such little time. 128GB iPhone? Overkill or just a pipe dream? ;-)

saving107
Jan 30, 2013, 11:30 AM
Once a year update on a major product line does not feel right to me..

And if you release it just 6 months later, everyone complains and feels ripped-off.

Nobody wins.

Also, 5 years ago (Feb 5th) Apple did the same with the iPhone and iPod touch, they bumped up the memory to 16GB (iPhone) and 32GB (iPod touch) and in the summer released new products (iPhone 3G).

Apple Announces a 16GB iPhone and 32GB iPod touch
http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/05/apple-announces-16gb-iphone-and-32gb-ipod-touch/

commander.data
Jan 30, 2013, 11:48 AM
That would imply.
1. They make no significant API changes for iOS7, and app developers don't need a beta period. The 7th iPhone and iOS 7 launch simultaneously.
2. They launch the 7th iPhone on iOS 6. iOS 7 doesn't launch until fall with iPads.
3. They launch the 7th iPhone with non-beta'd iOS 7, and all our apps blow up worse than ever before, with a LONG period to being fixed.
Our they simply do as they've traditionally done before they moved to a September launch for the iPhone 4S/iOS 5 and hold a software event in the spring to introduce iOS 7 and release the final version alongside the iPhone 5S in June at WWDC. Since an AppleTV refresh is apparently coming they could launch that at the same event along with possible iTunes/iCloud improvements if they want additional content in the event. The fall iPad will then launch with iOS 7.1.

The iPhone launching in June and the iPad following in September/October makes sense to properly align SoC development. The iPad uses an expanded GPU version of the iPhone SoC, so it's better that in each calendar year the iPhone introduces the A_ first and the iPad comes after with the A_X rather than being based on the previous year's SoC.

Overg
Jan 30, 2013, 01:29 PM
Ok.....
So I guess we won't see any apple new product
Until September????
That means the appl stock will dive to 200...

Futuresgreen
Jan 30, 2013, 01:38 PM
Hhmm I'm not so sure . Sony is already making light of the fact they gave the thinnest 10" tablet on the market, will Apple be happy for them to hold that accolade for another 8 months plus whatever else the market brings out by that time. Apple are supposed to be market leaders

Menel
Jan 30, 2013, 01:44 PM
Hhmm I'm not so sure . Sony is already making light of the fact they gave the thinnest 10" tablet on the market, will Apple be happy for them to hold that accolade for another 8 months plus whatever else the market brings out by that time. Apple are supposed to be market leadersLot more to market leader than 'thinness'. I've gotten over that since iPhone 4/ iPad 2. Most everything is, thin enough.

BornAgainMac
Jan 30, 2013, 02:07 PM
In 10 years, people will laugh at the 128 GB. Just like we do now with traditional hard drives of today.

Slusho
Jan 30, 2013, 02:45 PM
the iPad 3 processor which was seriously slow for that screen.

The GPU drives the screen, not the CPU. And my iPad 3 is perfectly fast at everything. In fact, developers still haven't created anything that the iPad 3 has any trouble with, or even anything that the iPad 4 does better than the iPad 3 (besides minor differences in load times), as far as I know. When the iPad 5 comes out, I bet the iPad 3 will still be able to handle everything fine, unless Apple designs iOS 7 to not function well on iPad 3 to make people upgrade. (The minor improvements to the OSs shouldn't have such a big affect on past hardware. We don't see this problem with desktop OSs nearly as much, and many times the OSs run more efficiently.)

In 10 years, people will laugh at the 128 GB. Just like we do now with traditional hard drives of today.

Laughing at 128 GB today wouldn't be a huge leap. The rate at which the technology has advanced and the prices have decreased is vastly greater than the rate at which the available capacities on these devices increase. Apple must keep them as they are for as long as possible to increase profit margins by a lot with each iteration, although other costs decrease profit margins (the iPad has increased in cost to produce over at least the first three generations).

MattInOz
Jan 30, 2013, 02:59 PM
In 10 years, people will laugh at the 128 GB. Just like we do now with traditional hard drives of today.

A Tera-nibble should be more than enough for anyone.

bbeagle
Jan 30, 2013, 03:01 PM
Ok.....
So I guess we won't see any apple new product
Until September????
That means the appl stock will dive to 200...

And if Amazon declares bankruptcy, their stock will double.

Love the stock market. :rolleyes:

WilliamLondon
Jan 30, 2013, 03:13 PM
In 10 years, people will laugh at the 128 GB. Just like we do now with traditional hard drives of today.

Do you think so? I can imagine a future where people don't even think about storage, whether it be local or somewhere else, we'll simply have sorted this issue and no one will care (in the same way we're moving away from RAM and CPU details in marketing and promotion, albeit slowly). Perhaps not 10 years? But at some point it'll happen - the devices on Star Trek never seem to indicate or care where (or how much) storage was, and that is where we're headed, right? :)

Battlefield Fan
Jan 30, 2013, 04:09 PM
i'm pretty sure that is, in fact, exactly what they are doing.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic but just in case you aren't I think he means why didn't they just keep selling the iPad 3 till February (avoid pissing on people after only 7 months) and then release the iPad 4 in February with all the capacities available from the get go.

PBG4 Dude
Jan 30, 2013, 05:05 PM
The parts are leaking now, no way we don't see a revamped ipad before summer.

JS3
Jan 30, 2013, 05:23 PM
With the price of flash memory cant we just get 64/128 and maybe 180.

Are they really gonna stick with this 16GB? In this year of 2013 seems like we should be so much higher. I do get the cloud thing but you dont always have wifi or 3G/4G like if you are on a cruise or something.

Chupa Chupa
Jan 30, 2013, 08:09 PM
It's only suggestive of the 9.7 model, not the mini. Still possible that Apple would split the launch of each model to prevent them from canabalizing each other -- even if Apple says they don't care. (That's BS, they want you to buy one or more of each product they sell just like every other company).

I could see Apple pushing out a Retina mini in the spring or early summer, which also coordinates with when schools buy equipment for the next school year.

teknikal90
Jan 30, 2013, 09:29 PM
I call bullcrap. Apple releases things whenever they want to release things.
Case in point of a situation like this going the other way, white iPhone 4. Only a few months later, the 4s came out.

Aidan5806
Jan 30, 2013, 11:45 PM
Why they didn't just release the iPad 4 with the 128G in Febuary is beyond me.

To push the lightning standard through the Christmas season. Despite the other updates like processor and front camera, that little connector was the real reason the 4th gen iPad was launched so soon.

Smigit
Jan 31, 2013, 06:01 AM
Hhmm I'm not so sure . Sony is already making light of the fact they gave the thinnest 10" tablet on the market, will Apple be happy for them to hold that accolade for another 8 months plus whatever else the market brings out by that time. Apple are supposed to be market leadersGiven they made the iPad 3 and 4 thicker than the iPad 2, it is only logical to think that the thickness of the device is only one of many of Apple's concerns. I'm sure the next one will be much thinner, but I don't think they are under any pressure to race to the market to get it out.

Heck, reading an Engadget article tonight on Tablet sales, I don't think Sony's name even came up so they aren't exactly biting at Apples heels.

Scarpad
Jan 31, 2013, 09:33 AM
I'll replace my Ipad Mini with a Retina version, but I'm perfectly happy with my Ipad 4 64 giger.

Dionte
Feb 1, 2013, 09:39 AM
Fine by me, I can't keep my money and keep my 3.