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onurgitmez
Feb 12, 2013, 01:05 PM
I'm in university and I think it's time to buy a MacBook Air. A month ago I blught an IPad and I'm very happy with it. Last week I went to a store and saw a MacBook Air that was awesome. So Indecised ti buy it. I'm going to buy 4gb ram and 128gb SSD model. Which screen size should I prefer. In my country apple prices are so high. 11 inch model is $ 1700 and 13 is $1800 so there isn't much difference between them. My purpose of using it is checking my mails, facebook, web seraches and Iwork, Ilife, MS Office. I will carry it all day so does 13 inch make big difference in that? Battery is important but Inthink I can handle it. Which one should I prefer? Regards.



jmoore5196
Feb 12, 2013, 01:12 PM
I know there are countless threads on this same topic. I own both an 11" and 13" 2012 MacBook Air, so let me give you my thoughts.

Battery life is a concern; I get five hours on my 11" and seven hours on my 13" Air. To me, "all day" means several hours of usage and you'll want the extra mileage the 13" gives you with respect to battery life.

Weight really is not an issue; size is. The 13" has essentially the same footprint as a full-size laptop, so carrying it all day would require a backpack or messenger bag rather than just tucking it into a sleeve and carrying it under your arm. That's why I love my 11" Air ... it's the ultimate in portability.

If you're carrying it all day (and by inference, using it all day) I'd go with the 13" machine. If, on the other hand, you're carrying it more than using it, then the 11" is hard to beat.

PBG4 Dude
Feb 12, 2013, 02:11 PM
The 13" offers a larger screen, an SD port and 2+ hours of battery life? Are the size/weight differences from the 11" worth the extra functionality?

That's the question you need to answer for yourself. I gave my wife my 2010 13" MBA (to replace her '06 WhiteBook) and have a 2012 11".

Love the portability of the 11", but I hate needing to find a power outlet if I need WiFi and >3 hours battery life. If I turn WiFi off, I get almost 2 more hours of battery life.

I think this is due to the fact that Time Machine runs when I have WiFi turned on, so it's making hourly backups to my Time Capsule which kills the battery.

sostoobad
Feb 12, 2013, 02:12 PM
I have owned both and went with the 11" not because it is better but because it is better for what I wanted it to do. For me it is the best choice for portability, using on a couch etc. The 13" has better battery life. I also have a mac mini and a 2006 15" macbook pro. So I have others, and down the road would like to get a new 15" macbook pro.

My guess is, if you take it with you a lot you will want the 11".

onurgitmez
Feb 12, 2013, 02:21 PM
Thank you all for your replies. I think Inwill use it too not just carrying it. Battery can be important sometimes in class If I'm not near power source I can have some problems. I don't have anyother so will 13 be better for me?

AmtrakRider
Feb 12, 2013, 02:26 PM
I've had the 11in and 13in and I would say getting the 13in is the way to go. As everyone has said though it really depends more on the person. As a student I carry a backpack anyway. Its really amazing to leave in the morning and not bring a charger, since the MBA has enough power to get me through the day.

Apple...
Feb 12, 2013, 04:03 PM
I have a 13. Love it.

JohnIV
Feb 12, 2013, 04:24 PM
I have owned both and went with the 11" not because it is better but because it is better for what I wanted it to do. For me it is the best choice for portability, using on a couch etc.

So there's a noticeable difference when using on a couch? I mean, yeah it stands to reason that the 13" is a bit more unwieldy, but how much in the case of couch-using? This is something that matters to me in my upcoming purchase.

equalme
Feb 12, 2013, 04:35 PM
13" for me. 11" just gives me a headache if I have to do any multitasking.

onurgitmez
Feb 12, 2013, 04:39 PM
Thank you for replies. I'm still not sure which one but close to 13. I'M going to ask people in campus using this and decide.

dkersten
Feb 12, 2013, 05:37 PM
Your biggest concern should be battery life. The 13in has roughly 2 hours more battery life than the 11in. If you don't mind carrying a cord around I would recommend the 11in. If you don't want to be bothered by it, then the 13in is probably the better choice. Either way they are both very solid computers that are super portable

designs216
Feb 12, 2013, 06:48 PM
Go 13": a workable screen size and better battery life. Sell the toy and use the proceeds to take the sting out of that insane $1800. I would consider a refurb or look at Amazon or B&H, assuming they'll ship to where you are. Good luck.

Cheffy Dave
Feb 12, 2013, 07:02 PM
We have 3 late 2010 11" MBA' with 512 OWC SSD's
They all came with 4 MB Ram and 64 SSD's, they have been workhorses! I bought up a lot of 11"ers with 64SSD' and added 512 SSD's for almost 50 friends, none of them have had any problems, nor have I:eek:
Many of us, have bought Hyper Mac Micro's battery packs, when plugged into a fully charged 11" MBA, you get 12-15 hours depending on screen brightness.
I mention all this, because this is the lightest thinnest sweetest 11" out there.
We all adore our Airs, and find the screen perfect, because we are so used to our
IPad screen real estate. Quite a testimony from about 55 people.
If you can, get to an Apple retail outlet, and do a hands on, to small, get the 13"
As for me, I highly recommend the 11", buy a refurb, save lots! Are refurbs good?
Well I have a 2007 and 2008 BMB refurbs, still going strong!;)

David58117
Feb 13, 2013, 12:52 AM
We have 3 late 2010 11" MBA' with 512 OWC SSD's
They all came with 4 MB Ram and 64 SSD's, they have been workhorses! I bought up a lot of 11"ers with 64SSD' and added 512 SSD's for almost 50 friends, none of them have had any problems, nor have I:eek:
Many of us, have bought Hyper Mac Micro's battery packs, when plugged into a fully charged 11" MBA, you get 12-15 hours depending on screen brightness.
I mention all this, because this is the lightest thinnest sweetest 11" out there.
We all adore our Airs, and find the screen perfect, because we are so used to our
IPad screen real estate. Quite a testimony from about 55 people.
If you can, get to an Apple retail outlet, and do a hands on, to small, get the 13"
As for me, I highly recommend the 11", buy a refurb, save lots! Are refurbs good?
Well I have a 2007 and 2008 BMB refurbs, still going strong!;)

Definitely agree.

Although I've become very close to the commands for zoom in/out, and I set the font size for Safari as "never use sizes smaller than 18" - which makes websites very easy to read. I also installed "Divvy," which sections off specific areas of the screen for different windows.

Next to the 13, the 11 seems very tiny, but you get use to it and learn what works.

Wouldn't trade the portability and comfort.

bigdavecox90
Feb 13, 2013, 02:47 AM
Just got my MBA 13 through yesterday.

It's amazing! So small and sleek, yet an amazingly bright and clear screen. Well impressed! :D

joshwithachance
Feb 13, 2013, 11:47 AM
I bought an iPad mini recently and thought it would be the perfect companion to my iMac, but a MacBook is definitely needed for my schoolwork, and I too was faced with this decision. Yesterday I took the plunge and ordered an 11-inch Air. I've used one at the Apple Store and it wasn't too small at all for me. If I need to something on a bigger screen, I always have my iMac as well!

bwillard5
Feb 18, 2013, 04:10 PM
Go 13": a workable screen size and better battery life. Sell the toy and use the proceeds to take the sting out of that insane $1800.I agree. I just bought a 13" and I love it. The 11" is too small in my opinion and the battery life is longer so I've heard. I would suggest selling the iPad unless you can afford to buy another device. Is that $1800 USD?

kierennyc
Feb 18, 2013, 05:39 PM
We have 3 late 2010 11" MBA' with 512 OWC SSD's
They all came with 4 MB Ram and 64 SSD's, they have been workhorses! I bought up a lot of 11"ers with 64SSD' and added 512 SSD's for almost 50 friends, none of them have had any problems, nor have I:eek:
Many of us, have bought Hyper Mac Micro's battery packs, when plugged into a fully charged 11" MBA, you get 12-15 hours depending on screen brightness.
I mention all this, because this is the lightest thinnest sweetest 11" out there.
We all adore our Airs, and find the screen perfect, because we are so used to our
IPad screen real estate. Quite a testimony from about 55 people.
If you can, get to an Apple retail outlet, and do a hands on, to small, get the 13"
As for me, I highly recommend the 11", buy a refurb, save lots! Are refurbs good?
Well I have a 2007 and 2008 BMB refurbs, still going strong!;)

How do you connect the hyper mac micro to the air?

troy14
Mar 5, 2013, 04:58 PM
How do you connect the hyper mac micro to the air?

You don't, those are for USB only.

You need to buy one of these ($$):

http://www.hypershop.com/HyperJuice-External-Battery-for-MacBook-iPad-iPhone-USB-s/91.htm

Miat
Mar 6, 2013, 04:36 AM
Main factors for me were:

Screen size (and ratio). I much prefer the bigger screen and 16:10 ratio (more vertical space), partly for watching vids, and partly because my eyes are not that good anymore and the 11" res is getting too small for me.

Battery life.

Size of palm rest. I have big hands and the 11" was just too small. My hands hung half over the edge.

I don't find the 13" to be an issue for portability, though the 11" is clearly even easier to carry around.

No regrets about getting the 13". Suits my needs fine.

Cheffy Dave
Mar 6, 2013, 10:00 AM
How do you connect the hyper mac micro to the air?

USB Port:apple:

troy14
Mar 6, 2013, 06:31 PM
USB Port:apple:

You can charge a macbook air via USB?

Cheffy Dave
Mar 7, 2013, 01:23 AM
You can charge a macbook air via USB?

yep

PBG4 Dude
Mar 7, 2013, 10:11 AM
yep

Since when?

Nwoprime1
Mar 7, 2013, 11:20 AM
I got the 11 on special for 939 at best buy its good for me but it depends on what u want

ukchris
Mar 7, 2013, 12:02 PM
Just two thoughts...

1. If it's $1700 it's probably cheaper to fly to the US, buy one and fly home.

2. I love my 11", with the brightness turned down I typically get 7+ hours easily, my only frustration is the 128Gb limit, I wish it had the SD card slot so I could add a flush micro-SD card to give me more storage. As it is I just offload stuff I don't use much to a memory stick or USB drive.

I chose the 11" over the 13" because of size (obviously) and despite the bigger screen on the 13" I didn't feel I got worthwhile resolution, I don't mind a small display, resolution is what matters to me.

JohnIV
Mar 7, 2013, 02:11 PM
For me for writing my 11" Air is perfectly fine. Writing is just me and the paper so there's no need for much space IMO.

But if I was going to do any kind of visual work or using apps with many elements on the screen at the same time (e.g. creating music) I would have gone with the 13". Even just for surfing I'd get the 13", probably.

HappyInCalgary
Mar 7, 2013, 04:02 PM
This is my first post after reading the forums for months, may be years. :D

I previously had a 15" Compaq laptop. My first preference was the 15" Macbook Pro but decided to go with the 13" Macbook Air to save 500 dollars.

I can use the 13" screen by itself but sometimes connect it to a 21" monitor for more screen space. I sometimes use a 17" Powerbook G4 (from 2003!!!!) when I want more screen space as long as I can deal with the slowness.

I believe if I had bought an 11" I would have adjusted to it like I did to the smaller 13" screen. It depends upon how much adjustment you're willing to make.

shenan1982
Mar 8, 2013, 10:36 AM
You can charge a macbook air via USB?

First time I've heard that one too, lol.

theSeb
Mar 8, 2013, 11:02 AM
I have the 13" model, but if I buy another MBA in the future, I shall probably get the 11". For portability it's tough to beat.

shenan1982
Mar 8, 2013, 11:08 AM
I love my 11", with the brightness turned down I typically get 7+ hours easily

I would love to see that aside from screen off with a song playing for 7 hours, lol. There have been many reviews and it's never gotten anywhere close to 7 hours. The best results have been 5-ish hours. Not too shabby for the size, but don't blow smoke about getting 7+ hours, it's simply impossible with normal (or even abnormal) use.

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I have the 13" model, but if I buy another MBA in the future, I shall probably get the 11". For portability it's tough to beat.

Yeah, I was going to move up to a 13" but then I realized how much bigger the "travel footprint" is... I love being able to just slide it into the outside pocket of my suitcase and not worry about it. The 13" is super slim, but it's footprint makes it a lot bigger.... but then again it's not my primary computer (iMac 2012), and if it were, my decision would probably be for a larger model.

There is no "better" ... they make different sizes to accommodate each individuals wants and needs.

ukchris
Mar 8, 2013, 01:11 PM
I would love to see that aside from screen off with a song playing for 7 hours, lol. There have been many reviews and it's never gotten anywhere close to 7 hours. The best results have been 5-ish hours. Not too shabby for the size, but don't blow smoke about getting 7+ hours, it's simply impossible with normal (or even abnormal) use.

After 18 months of commuting coast to coast and using my MBA with inflight wifi all the way I'm pretty confident in my battery life, maybe 7+ is optimistic but I regularly work for a 7 hour flight which probably equates to over 6 hours online and my battery has never failed.

It isn't intensive use, web browsing, chat, working on local documents etc but certainly seems to exceed 5 hours.

shenan1982
Mar 8, 2013, 02:45 PM
After 18 months of commuting coast to coast and using my MBA with inflight wifi all the way I'm pretty confident in my battery life, maybe 7+ is optimistic but I regularly work for a 7 hour flight which probably equates to over 6 hours online and my battery has never failed.

It isn't intensive use, web browsing, chat, working on local documents etc but certainly seems to exceed 5 hours.

The longest flight in the US is Miami to Seattle averaging 6hr4min and generally you can't use a laptop the first 20 or last 20 of a flight so beat case you're imagining the performance. You can not get anything close to 7 hours out of an 11" in normal use.

HappyInCalgary
Mar 8, 2013, 03:32 PM
I use my 13" intensively when I'm out and about. I generally have a Youtube video running while I'm on wifi and typing away or browsing with Bluetooth off. Under this scenario, I'm able to get about 4 hours of usage. With an 11" I might only get 3 hours. Keep in mind that I also have seven desktop spaces going with programs hogging all of the 4 GB of memory. If anything I'd probably want to move to a bigger screen with more battery life rather than carry an 11" with the power adapter (which kinda defeats the purpose IMO). Then again my model is from 2011. I suspect a newer Air from 2012 will fare better.

shenan1982
Mar 8, 2013, 04:27 PM
I use my 13" intensively when I'm out and about. I generally have a Youtube video running while I'm on wifi and typing away or browsing with Bluetooth off. Under this scenario, I'm able to get about 4 hours of usage. With an 11" I might only get 3 hours. Keep in mind that I also have seven desktop spaces going with programs hogging all of the 4 GB of memory. If anything I'd probably want to move to a bigger screen with more battery life rather than carry an 11" with the power adapter (which kinda defeats the purpose IMO). Then again my model is from 2011. I suspect a newer Air from 2012 will fare better.

7 desktops on 4GB of RAM? Wowsa!

ukchris
Mar 9, 2013, 10:06 AM
The longest flight in the US is Miami to Seattle averaging 6hr4min and generally you can't use a laptop the first 20 or last 20 of a flight so beat case you're imagining the performance. You can not get anything close to 7 hours out of an 11" in normal use.

MIA to SEA is scheduled as 6h 40m as is BOS to SEA, Chicago to Anchorage is 6h 53m but yes, I was a little over zealous. As of now my MBA shows 86% charge and estimates 5h 21m remaining run time on minimum brightness which is fine for me on a plane.

So yes, 7 hours is optimistic but I regularly get much more than the 3-4 that was mentioned as the max when running fairly light loads with the brightness turned down. Just trying to provide a perspective on what works for me even if it isn't a typical usage profile.

shenan1982
Mar 9, 2013, 10:14 AM
MIA to SEA is scheduled as 6h 40m as is BOS to SEA, Chicago to Anchorage is 6h 53m but yes, I was a little over zealous. As of now my MBA shows 86% charge and estimates 5h 21m remaining run time on minimum brightness which is fine for me on a plane.

So yes, 7 hours is optimistic but I regularly get much more than the 3-4 that was mentioned as the max when running fairly light loads with the brightness turned down. Just trying to provide a perspective on what works for me even if it isn't a typical usage profile.

Funny how it went from "I typically get 7+ hours easily" to "I was a little over zealous" lol. Minimum brightness is never acceptable except for redeye flights, which really doesn't fall under "normal use" because people want to not have to book a redeye to be able to get a laptop that'll last the flight.

Bottom line, if long battery life is the primary driver, this laptop isn't the best, but if ultra portability is the primary, this is their guy. I chose ultra portability (because I really don't want to stare at my laptop on a 6 hour flight anyhow. I fly international every other week (transpacific and transatlantic) and in both BusinessFirst and GlobalFirst they have full AC power, so it's a non issue ;-)

LightOnAHill
Mar 9, 2013, 03:58 PM
Reading this thread I would totally use the 11" with that hyperpack 60 or 100Wh battery, cause then you can charge iPhones andnipads too and have good power back for blackouts and camping. I had both 13 and 11 and sold the 13, the 11 truly portable. I had a small 12" laptop through undergrad and JD-MBA school and smaller is always been better to me.

DisplacedMic
Mar 10, 2013, 04:20 PM
Reading this thread I would totally use the 11" with that hyperpack 60 or 100Wh battery, cause then you can charge iPhones andnipads too and have good power back for blackouts and camping. I had both 13 and 11 and sold the 13, the 11 truly portable. I had a small 12" laptop through undergrad and JD-MBA school and smaller is always been better to me.

yep - i'm about to go to law school myself and while i've been thinking 13 after actually hitting the fruitstand and playing with them now i'm leaning towards the 11.

I'll still have my aging 13" 5,1 MB if i want a slightly larger screen - and i have an external display so i think 11 will be perfect. even if i only 3-5 hours of battery off a charge most desks have their own power supply these days so i don't anticipate problems.

decisions decisions...

shenan1982
Mar 10, 2013, 04:21 PM
yep - i'm about to go to law school myself and while i've been thinking 13 after actually hitting the fruitstand and playing with them now i'm leaning towards the 11.

I'll still have my aging 13" 5,1 MB if i want a slightly larger screen - and i have an external display so i think 11 will be perfect. even if i only 3-5 hours of battery off a charge most desks have their own power supply these days so i don't anticipate problems.

decisions decisions...

Get the 11"

LightOnAHill
Mar 10, 2013, 08:28 PM
yep - i'm about to go to law school myself and while i've been thinking 13 after actually hitting the fruitstand and playing with them now i'm leaning towards the 11.

I'll still have my aging 13" 5,1 MB if i want a slightly larger screen - and i have an external display so i think 11 will be perfect. even if i only 3-5 hours of battery off a charge most desks have their own power supply these days so i don't anticipate problems.

decisions decisions...

Not to drift the thread but if you're getting ready to go to law school you should really consider doing a dual degree with your law degree. It'll make you much more marketable after graduating if you're going to be looking for a job.

I was also interested in business and in undergrad I double majored in Spanish and business administration, with a history minor. So, when I was in my second semester of law school I took the GMAT and applied to the MBA program so I could do a joint degree and earned a JD-MBA.

I had a few other friends that got masters in other fields besides business while getting their law degree. They've all gotten great jobs in the field of their other graduate degrees. I used my MBA after working for a law office for a year to quit that job and start my own law firm. The business training helped me and now I'm wildly successful in my own practice and have been to court over 300 times since April 2011. I couldn't be happier, and it was partially because I took the extra tome to get a dual degree.

Pm me if you have questions.

shenan1982
Mar 10, 2013, 08:43 PM
Omg seriously !?!? You need a spouse.

BenTrovato
Mar 11, 2013, 12:28 AM
The 11" is a sweet machine. Great size and the keyboard is perfect. If all you're doing is email and note taking its fine. The second you want to move beyond typing the 11" is real pain in the butt. I fell in love with the 11" until I had to use it for a few days. The 13" allows you to do almost anything without having a headache. Maybe it's just me by it feels like the 13 gets double the battery life - may be an exaggeration but it felt that way to me.

PBG4 Dude
Mar 11, 2013, 08:32 AM
Omg seriously !?!? You need a spouse.

He's been to court over 300 times in 2 years. Sounds like he already has one, LOL. :D

jojoba
Mar 11, 2013, 08:37 AM
I have a 13" and I'm very pleased with it. IMO, the 11" is sexier but the 13" is generally better to work with, due to better battery life and larger screen. I still find it highly portable. I'd rather buy a bag to fit the tool that has to do the job, than a tool to fit the bag.