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Feb 24, 2013, 10:37 PM
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Mophie today announced the iPhone 5 version of the Juice Pack Air (http://www.mophie.com/mophie-juice-pack-air-iPhone-5-p/2105_jpa-ip5-blk.htm), which offers more battery life than the recently announced Juice Pack Helium (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/05/mophie-announces-juice-pack-helium-for-iphone-5/) for the iPhone 5.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/02/mophiejuicepackair.jpgThe ideal case for the everyday 9-5er and for those whose day doesn't always end when they leave the office. Lighter and thinner than previous generations, but packed with more power to make sure your phone can keep up with your busy lifestyle.While the Helium comes equipped with a 1500mAh battery, the Air offers a 1700mAh battery, which promises to double the iPhone 5's battery life, adding an additional eight hours of LTE use. The Helium, in contrast, is only capable of charging an iPhone battery to 80 percent, offering six hours of LTE use.

The Air and the Helium share a similar thin design, but the Air is slightly larger in all dimensions, including weight. The Air is 2.60 in x 5.54 in x 0.63 in and 2.68 oz, while the Helium is 2.49 in x 5.49 in x 0.59 in and 2.44 oz.

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The black version of the Juice Pack Air will ship in 7-10 days, while the red and white versions will ship on March 22. All three cases can currently be purchased through Mophie's online store. (http://www.mophie.com/mophie-juice-pack-air-iPhone-5-p/2105_jpa-ip5-blk.htm) for $99.95.

Article Link: Mophie Announces Juice Pack Air for iPhone 5 (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/24/mophie-announces-juice-pack-air-for-iphone-5/)



Bako-MacAddict
Feb 24, 2013, 10:39 PM
Useful for the people that travel. My battery is great. Personally I don't need it.:p

komodrone
Feb 24, 2013, 10:40 PM
does this juice pack come with one of these?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Capri_Sun_Pouch.jpg

Nrwrit3r
Feb 24, 2013, 10:46 PM
I would be excited, but honestly the ibattz is so much better, since it's cheaper and gives otterbox protection. No idea why it isn't more popular than mophie!

Squilly
Feb 24, 2013, 10:48 PM
I might have found my next case :)

locoboi187
Feb 24, 2013, 10:54 PM
These cost like $30 to make -_-

gefsmith
Feb 24, 2013, 10:58 PM
I bought the helium when they first went on sale. Unfortunately it's not syncing when connected via the microUSB.

Have to pull the bottom off to sync. Not a good start out of the box.

aziatiklover
Feb 24, 2013, 10:59 PM
This make your iphone 5 even longer! Bwahahahahaha

Radio
Feb 24, 2013, 11:09 PM
Obsolete in 3..2..1

zorinlynx
Feb 24, 2013, 11:10 PM
I bought the helium when they first went on sale. Unfortunately it's not syncing when connected via the microUSB.

Have to pull the bottom off to sync. Not a good start out of the box.

Perhaps your unit is defective? I've never had issues syncing through previous juice packs.

cameronjpu
Feb 24, 2013, 11:37 PM
I just wish Apple would make a limited edition iPhone that included a larger battery. That way you wouldn't have to have the added thickness of two extra layers of plastic when you added the battery like this.

dweezle3
Feb 25, 2013, 12:14 AM
I just wish Apple would make a limited edition iPhone that included a larger battery. That way you wouldn't have to have the added thickness of two extra layers of plastic when you added the battery like this.

Exactly! Maybe I'm in the minority, but I personally wouldn't mind a phone that's even twice as thick as the current iPhone 5 if it meant double the battery life. I think Apple's taken the "thinnest phone on the market" competition a bit too far, and I'm sad to see that sacrificing features such as battery life was even a consideration for them.

abz786
Feb 25, 2013, 12:16 AM
whats funny is that i have had mine now for almost 2 weeks haha!!! they are just announcing it now!!! Wow, mine must have slipt through the system! :D:D:D

AngelOfSoul
Feb 25, 2013, 01:18 AM
Would it make safari seems snappier? :D

CmdrPuffin
Feb 25, 2013, 01:32 AM
Exactly! Maybe I'm in the minority, but I personally wouldn't mind a phone that's even twice as thick as the current iPhone 5 if it meant double the battery life. I think Apple's taken the "thinnest phone on the market" competition a bit too far, and I'm sad to see that sacrificing features such as battery life was even a consideration for them.

I wouldn't mind a phone that's more than two times as thick as the iPhone 5 if I could actually use it like I wanted to and not have to worry about the battery constantly. I have to carry a power pack with me to charge if I ever want to play games, watch movies or use the GPS on the go.

I've managed to take my iPhone 5 from 100% to 0% in 3 hours before with heavy use. 1434 mAh is not enough for power users. We really need to at least have the option of more. Until then at least there's mophie.

kavlo26
Feb 25, 2013, 01:45 AM
does this juice pack come with one of these?


Image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Capri_Sun_Pouch.jpg)

pacific cooler. Best one!

Myiphone7
Feb 25, 2013, 01:57 AM
Does anyone still really have a problem with their iPhone five battery?

I use mine pretty heavily throughout the day but at night I still have plenty of battery left.

I get about 7 hours use before charging again.

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I just wish Apple would make a limited edition iPhone that included a larger battery. That way you wouldn't have to have the added thickness of two extra layers of plastic when you added the battery like this.

That's a great idea. I'd be interested if it lasted 2-3 days.

kodeman53
Feb 25, 2013, 03:31 AM
I just wish Apple would make a limited edition iPhone that included a larger battery. That way you wouldn't have to have the added thickness of two extra layers of plastic when you added the battery like this.

The probability Apple will design a second back and a second battery for a second model i5 is zero.

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whats funny is that i have had mine now for almost 2 weeks haha!!! they are just announcing it now!!! Wow, mine must have slipt through the system! :D:D:D

Do you have an Air or a Helium?

Nightarchaon
Feb 25, 2013, 03:53 AM
If Apple actually put a battery in the iPhone that lasted a full 9-5 work day like they should, these "packs" would not be necessary..

Apple, get your act together, whats the point of a Smartphone, that you have to treat like a dumb phone and not use to get it to last a full a working day on a single charge ?

Innovate, apple, give us a smartphone that last a full day on a single charge, instead of doing the dumbass thing of making it 11 microns thinner everytime you update the phone

simonmet
Feb 25, 2013, 04:32 AM
Yep, what good is a phone that's so thin and light you don't even notice when you're carrying it if it doesn't last more than a few hours when using the powerful features it supports and you have to bulk it up with cases like these?

iproductsuser
Feb 25, 2013, 04:35 AM
Perhaps your unit is defective? I've never had issues syncing through previous juice packs.

The iPhone 5 helium and jp air are NOT advertised to sync via wire to a computer. This is known and that's why mophie states on their FAQ's that you can sync wirelessly.

Swampthing
Feb 25, 2013, 04:39 AM
Yep, what good is a phone that's so thin and light you don't even notice when you're carrying it if it doesn't last more than a few hours when using the powerful features it supports and you have to bulk it up with cases like these?

Of course, you do realize this isn't just an Apple problem? ALL the major smart phones on the market don't last much beyond a day anymore. It's become a pretty standard part of life... go to bed, plug in your smart phone to recharge overnight.

kodeman53
Feb 25, 2013, 05:23 AM
If Apple actually put a battery in the iPhone that lasted a full 9-5 work day like they should, these "packs" would not be necessary..

Apple, get your act together, whats the point of a Smartphone, that you have to treat like a dumb phone and not use to get it to last a full a working day on a single charge ?

Innovate, apple, give us a smartphone that last a full day on a single charge, instead of doing the dumbass thing of making it 11 microns thinner everytime you update the phone

'Lasted a full 9-5 work day', 'last a full working day' and 'last a full day' are meaningless terms.

Based on how I use my phone, my i5 lasts me two, 'full 9-5 work days'.

Koodauw
Feb 25, 2013, 06:02 AM
Come on mophie gives us the lightning connector, stop messing around with microusb.

jonnysods
Feb 25, 2013, 07:27 AM
Pricey. They did a good job making it not look so bulky.

Trik
Feb 25, 2013, 08:26 AM
Come on mophie gives us the lightning connector, stop messing around with microusb.

I disagree completely. Almost every other device I carry uses micro USB, the fact that this does too means I can carry a micro USB cable and charge my iPhone, Kindle, LG Bluetooth Headset, miFi, etc.

It's also a nice bonus, because if I'm somewhere and need to charge without a cable, most everyone has a micro USB charger as well.

twigman08
Feb 25, 2013, 09:01 AM
I almost want to say that some of y'all should think about getting your device checked out if your iPhone 5 is severely having battery issues. Even my "ancient" (in tech years it's almost there) iPhone 4 lasts a full day of browsing on 3G, playing heavy games, and even a little GPS. Yet an iPhone 5 can't last 3 hours doing that? Yep is get your device checked out. I've never heard of (and all I do is visit tech sites as a tech nerd) anyone have terrible iPhone 5 battery life even power users.

syd430
Feb 25, 2013, 09:09 AM
Tactfully charging the phone through out the day is probably a better approach for 95% of people.

Jimmy James
Feb 25, 2013, 09:11 AM
I could always use more battery life for GPS.

dmunz
Feb 25, 2013, 09:25 AM
I've been using this case for a couple of weeks now and seems to work fine.

http://www.i-blason.com/powerglider-slim-fit-rechargeable-battery-case-for-iphone-5-lightning.html

Not pimping them, just curious if htis is better, worse or about the same as the Mophie.

FWIW
DLM

gonca
Feb 25, 2013, 09:30 AM
IMHO this ad is a bit ridiculous.. Nowadays most of the people based their job into a laptop/pc office so they can charge it at anytime .. My case, always leave the office with 100% battery.

Speaking about the ad.. and just.

hamiltonrrwatch
Feb 25, 2013, 09:50 AM
I'm sad to see that sacrificing features such as battery life was even a consideration for them.

Yes but what would the 3rd party sellers do if Apple installed a battery that actually gave eight hours of use? :D

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I've never heard of (and all I do is visit tech sites as a tech nerd) anyone have terrible iPhone 5 battery life even power users.

I've had five iPhone 5's as a result of hardware, software, and cosmetic issues. Not one lasted more than 5 1/2 hours from a full charge, including my latest. BTW, I'm in no way a "power user".

cameronjpu
Feb 25, 2013, 10:04 AM
Does anyone still really have a problem with their iPhone five battery?

I use mine pretty heavily throughout the day but at night I still have plenty of battery left.

I get about 7 hours use before charging again.

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That's a great idea. I'd be interested if it lasted 2-3 days.

Lol! Yes, apparently you have a problem with the battery ;)

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Of course, you do realize this isn't just an Apple problem? ALL the major smart phones on the market don't last much beyond a day anymore. It's become a pretty standard part of life... go to bed, plug in your smart phone to recharge overnight.

Wouldn't it be great if the premium supplier of smartphones solved a problem for its users that all other suppliers (er... Except for Motorola with the Maxx) didn't fix? Isn't that the kind of thing iPhone users expect out of apple, exceptionalism instead of normality?

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I almost want to say that some of y'all should think about getting your device checked out if your iPhone 5 is severely having battery issues. Even my "ancient" (in tech years it's almost there) iPhone 4 lasts a full day of browsing on 3G, playing heavy games, and even a little GPS. Yet an iPhone 5 can't last 3 hours doing that? Yep is get your device checked out. I've never heard of (and all I do is visit tech sites as a tech nerd) anyone have terrible iPhone 5 battery life even power users.

Well I guess you can't say THAT anymore can you? Because now you've heard if a bunch of power users who have insufficient battery life. Not saying its terrible, but if I go from work to a happy hour and don't have time to charge during the day, it will die before I get home. Last week I had great tickets to an NBA game at 7. I had to put my phone in airplane mode around 4 to ensure I had enough juice to take pictures at the game.

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Tactfully charging the phone through out the day is probably a better approach for 95% of people.

Definitely. For the OTHER 5%, the iPhone Maxx is the better option.

iThinkIt
Feb 25, 2013, 10:10 AM
Could have used one the past week.Only problem I see is no lightning connector. :(

dmunz
Feb 25, 2013, 10:31 AM
Could have used one the past week.Only problem I see is no lightning connector. :(

Check the BLASON. Again, not pimping, but that (lighting connector) is why I picked it up.

FWIW
DLM

QCassidy352
Feb 25, 2013, 10:32 AM
Agreed. I'm at 3 hours use, 19 hours standby, 59% remaining. Far more than good enough to get through a day.

Though I'll admit those numbers change a lot when signal strength is weak.

Does anyone still really have a problem with their iPhone five battery?

I use mine pretty heavily throughout the day but at night I still have plenty of battery left.

I get about 7 hours use before charging again.

Fresh Pie
Feb 25, 2013, 10:35 AM
"mophielovesyou"

unlessyouhaveaniPodtouch

simonmet
Feb 25, 2013, 10:38 AM
I almost want to say that some of y'all should think about getting your device checked out if your iPhone 5 is severely having battery issues. Even my "ancient" (in tech years it's almost there) iPhone 4 lasts a full day of browsing on 3G, playing heavy games, and even a little GPS. Yet an iPhone 5 can't last 3 hours doing that? Yep is get your device checked out. I've never heard of (and all I do is visit tech sites as a tech nerd) anyone have terrible iPhone 5 battery life even power users.

I guess you missed this 230 page (and counting) thread:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4329696?start=0&tstart=0

I don't know if the i5 is way worse than i4 but the i4 was never good enough in the first place. My i4 lasts at most 3-4 hours of real-world use (I'm not talking about standby) and there are many people that report similar battery life for the i5. It's not inconceivable that I might spend a day shopping or sightseeing in the city and not be constantly tethered to my desk for vital life blood to be magically delivered intravenously via USB. In these cases I'm frequently flat before I get my (long) train ride home and well before dinner time if I decide to stay out and go to a restaurant. I might also be working in the field or be a consultant who has to visit clients throughout the day.

Part of the problem might be from having the screen at maximum brightness but I find during the day that is absolutely necessary for comfortable viewing. If they could reduce the glare a little that might help. We've also just become so attached to and dependent upon these devices that it's almost traumatic when they go flat!

I'm not suggesting the competition does any better. In fact I'm quite sure that they don't. iOS does seem to be quite efficient so far as I can tell. It's just that the tiny batteries they put in these phones can only go so far and Apple has seemingly prioritised thinness at the expense of utility. Even a 50 % larger battery wouldn't add that much to the size and weight but would go a long way to increasing the utility of the phone.

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"mophielovesyou"

unlessyouhaveaniPodtouch

Haha yep! The packaging and manual are hilarious. At one point it says "it'll even charge your blueberry". I'm very happy with my rugged Morphie power pack (the pro one).

zorinlynx
Feb 25, 2013, 11:06 AM
The iPhone 5 helium and jp air are NOT advertised to sync via wire to a computer. This is known and that's why mophie states on their FAQ's that you can sync wirelessly.

That's ludicrous! All their previous JuicePacks could sync just fine over USB.

What were they thinking? Such an expensive product should not have such a ridiculous limitation. Especially since they licensed the connector officially and thus should be able to fully implement it.

WissMAN
Feb 25, 2013, 11:06 AM
Come on mophie gives us the lightning connector, stop messing around with microusb.

+1!!!

Why in earth would Mophie not license the lightning connection? I guess the cables I have (and the one that came with the phone) should be useless upon purchase of the mophie?

Single reason I'll never buy it.

cameronjpu
Feb 25, 2013, 11:17 AM
Agreed. I'm at 3 hours use, 19 hours standby, 59% remaining. Far more than good enough to get through a day.

Though I'll admit those numbers change a lot when signal strength is weak.

I took my phone off the charger this morning at 8:45 AM, exactly 3.5 hours ago. I have not used it for navigation, really I have hardly used it for anything yet today except web browser. A few emails. No video, no streaming audio, no games. My battery remaining after 3 1/2 hours is 55%. I do have an exchange server on my phone, which from what I understand Is always a problem.

The point is, it doesn't matter if YOU See no problem with your iPhone's battery life. There are plenty of people out there who do have a problem with the battery life that they get, and for those people, it would be really nice if there was a solution that didn't involve adding two pieces of exterior plastic in order to gain a little bit more battery. Apple could easily solve this if they wanted to. And they could solve it profitably to, because those of us who want this feature are willing to pay for it generously.

numbersyx
Feb 25, 2013, 01:27 PM
I must say I can get through a full two days with the iPhone without charging. I have Location Services and Push services to on.

Mophie Juice Packs get some iffy reviews. Wonder if this one is going to be different?

cameronjpu
Feb 25, 2013, 01:36 PM
I took my phone off the charger this morning at 8:45 AM, exactly 3.5 hours ago. I have not used it for navigation, really I have hardly used it for anything yet today except web browser. A few emails. No video, no streaming audio, no games. My battery remaining after 3 1/2 hours is 55%. I do have an exchange server on my phone, which from what I understand Is always a problem.

FYI, two more hours have now passed from when I posted that last message, and I literally did not use my phone at all in the last two hours. I was on a job. My battery life has now fallen to 40%. 15% in two hours, and from what I understand, caused by the use of an exchange server email. That's not something I can or would want to avoid, but there are Lots of people out there who have exchange accounts. If Apple wants to be taken seriously by business people, it needs to provide them an option to get their iPhone to work throughout a busy day where the phone is actually doing things not only when it's in the users hands, but all the time like business users expected to.

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I must say I can get through a full two days with the iPhone without charging. I have Location Services and Push services to on.

Mophie Juice Packs get some iffy reviews. Wonder if this one is going to be different?

Every popular product in the world gets some iffy reviews. This one will be no different. You have to understand how to read your typical Amazon reviews. 90% of the people who are going to write a review are the people who had some problem with the device. People who are totally happy with the device don't tend to seek out the place where they can write a review of that product.

zorinlynx
Feb 25, 2013, 02:23 PM
Dude, there is a problem with your phone. Problems happen, it's a part of life.

Take it to the Apple Store and have them exchange it.

FYI, two more hours have now passed from when I posted that last message, and I literally did not use my phone at all in the last two hours. I was on a job. My battery life has now fallen to 40%. 15% in two hours, and from what I understand, caused by the use of an exchange server email. That's not something I can or would want to avoid, but there are Lots of people out there who have exchange accounts. If Apple wants to be taken seriously by business people, it needs to provide them an option to get their iPhone to work throughout a busy day where the phone is actually doing things not only when it's in the users hands, but all the time like business users expected to.

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Every popular product in the world gets some iffy reviews. This one will be no different. You have to understand how to read your typical Amazon reviews. 90% of the people who are going to write a review are the people who had some problem with the device. People who are totally happy with the device don't tend to seek out the place where they can write a review of that product.

iproductsuser
Feb 25, 2013, 02:43 PM
I agree. I'm a power user and my battery is nowhere near that bad.

cameronjpu
Feb 25, 2013, 03:09 PM
Dude, there is a problem with your phone. Problems happen, it's a part of life.

Take it to the Apple Store and have them exchange it.

Dude, you're wrong.

I've had each and every iPhone from the first to the current. They all perform essentially the same. I have a couple times had them replaced in hopes of the battery improving, but it never makes any difference. So that's like 7-8 iPhones in 5 years, and they all perform the same as far as battery. Still think there's a problem with my phone?

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Check the BLASON. Again, not pimping, but that (lighting connector) is why I picked it up.

FWIW
DLM

Going to buy one of those. I just can't wait any more for Apple to create what I need. It's a shame, the phone could be so much thinner if Apple would do the battery instead of having a third party provide it.

iproductsuser
Feb 25, 2013, 03:22 PM
There are a few settings to help
Optimize battery. Try google searching it. I can't recall them off hand. I have 2 exchange accounts pushing all day.

Matthew9559
Feb 25, 2013, 03:28 PM
I am a big fan of the Mophie cases and glad we finally not only got one but now two cases to choose from. Finally! :)

cameronjpu
Feb 25, 2013, 03:37 PM
There are a few settings to help
Optimize battery. Try google searching it. I can't recall them off hand. I have 2 exchange accounts pushing all day.

Believe it or not, I have tried googling it in the last five years ;-) I run my own computer support business, so I have tried everything possible to take care of this problem. The fact is, the phone uses a certain amount of energy, and the battery is a certain size. Those two things in combination allow for roughly 8 hours on the clock after my phone is taken off the charger With my typical usage patterns.

That usage does not include streaming video, streaming audio, or high screen brightness settings. I remain connected to Wi-Fi whenever possible, but for a good half of most days, I am not connected to Wi-Fi. I do not use Bluetooth and I have my Bluetooth disabled. I have location services on, because, hello, it's a phone. I want to be able to use the location services. If I wanted to disable half of the usefulness of the phone just to be over use it, I would've got an android phone and gotten even less battery life.

I just wish Apple, instead of making the phone 40% thinner with the last generation, would've taken advantage of that additional space and giving me at least the option of buying a larger battery. As it is, it looks like I'm Going to buy a battery case, and walk around with a much bulkier phone then I would have wanted to have.

KdParker
Feb 25, 2013, 03:38 PM
This is too bulky. I will just wait for the 5" in iPhone 6 (with better battery life) next fall.

adnbek
Feb 25, 2013, 04:22 PM
These cost like $30 to make -_-

And your point is?

solace
Feb 25, 2013, 04:51 PM
I almost want to say that some of y'all should think about getting your device checked out if your iPhone 5 is severely having battery issues. Even my "ancient" (in tech years it's almost there) iPhone 4 lasts a full day of browsing on 3G, playing heavy games, and even a little GPS. Yet an iPhone 5 can't last 3 hours doing that? Yep is get your device checked out. I've never heard of (and all I do is visit tech sites as a tech nerd) anyone have terrible iPhone 5 battery life even power users.

mine isn't "terrible", it's just it rarely lasts more than 6-8 hours of my usual usage without a charge. i don't consider that bad battery life, so much as I'm just a heavy user.

i would only use something like this when i'm out and about at an outdoor event or somewhere where I'll be away from an outlet/charger for over 8 hours.

TheMTtakeover
Feb 25, 2013, 05:13 PM
Come on mophie gives us the lightning connector, stop messing around with microusb.

Exactly what I was thinking.

IzzyJG99
Feb 25, 2013, 09:45 PM
does this juice pack come with one of these?


Image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Capri_Sun_Pouch.jpg)

You're my hero.

3rdiguy
Feb 26, 2013, 12:04 AM
So they raised the price? The 2000mAh juice pack plus for 4/4s was $99. Keep waiting folks they got one more to release and it will probably be $130. 1700mAh is still kinda skimpy.

Nightarchaon
Feb 26, 2013, 06:15 AM
'Lasted a full 9-5 work day', 'last a full working day' and 'last a full day' are meaningless terms.

Based on how I use my phone, my i5 lasts me two, 'full 9-5 work days'.

Then you might as well be carrying a Nokia 3310 and get a month out the battery because your likely not using any of the "smart" features of your "smart"phone.

As soon as you start using this phones features, to play games, stream video, watch movies, listen to music, browse the web and more, your battery life plumets, so much so that 3hrs "use" a day can put you at the point of needing to charge midway through the day.

Apple, im sure, rates its battery life by old Dumb-phone standards, so they are saying here, buy this super smartphone, but only use it like you used your phone in the 1990s if you want your battery to last the day,

Seems backwards thinking to me, not innovative .

The Phazer
Feb 26, 2013, 06:18 AM
My iPhone 5 battery life is also terrible. And yes, Apple have looked at it, and changing it has done nothing.

It doesn't last me until I get home at night after work, and I don't do things like streaming video.

As for this, it looks good. And then you see that it makes the already uncomfortably long iPhone 5 even longer. Fail.

Nightarchaon
Feb 26, 2013, 06:53 AM
Tactfully charging the phone through out the day is probably a better approach for 95% of people.

but if the phone had been designed correctly to begin with you shouldn't need to do this, it should have been built with a battery that had the legs to last a full day of use, if this meant that it would have to be half again as thick and a third again as heavy, so be it.

Apple has anorexia when it comes to its devices, they are perfectly functional as either works of non-functioning art, or tethered device.

syd430
Feb 26, 2013, 10:22 AM
but if the phone had been designed correctly to begin with you shouldn't need to do this, it should have been built with a battery that had the legs to last a full day of use, if this meant that it would have to be half again as thick and a third again as heavy, so be it.

Apple has anorexia when it comes to its devices, they are perfectly functional as either works of non-functioning art, or tethered device.

Cool story.

TC25
Feb 26, 2013, 03:20 PM
Apple, get your act together, whats the point of a Smartphone, that you have to treat like a dumb phone and not use to get it to last a full a working day on a single charge ?
First you said this.

As soon as you start using this phones features, to play games, stream video, watch movies, listen to music, browse the web and more, your battery life plumets, so much so that 3hrs "use" a day can put you at the point of needing to charge midway through the day.
Now this.

It's nice your employer allows you to 'play games, stream video, watch movies, listen to music, browse the web and more'. :)

maxosx
Feb 26, 2013, 04:42 PM
Exactly! Maybe I'm in the minority, but I personally wouldn't mind a phone that's even twice as thick as the current iPhone 5 if it meant double the battery life. I think Apple's taken the "thinnest phone on the market" competition a bit too far, and I'm sad to see that sacrificing features such as battery life was even a consideration for them.

Steve Jobs was always obsessed with thin & light at any cost. It's about pretty products at Apple. Nothing new. :)

curmudgeon32
Feb 26, 2013, 04:45 PM
Dude, you're wrong.

I've had each and every iPhone from the first to the current. They all perform essentially the same. I have a couple times had them replaced in hopes of the battery improving, but it never makes any difference. So that's like 7-8 iPhones in 5 years, and they all perform the same as far as battery. Still think there's a problem with my phone?.

Question: how's the phone signal where you are? Have you been using your phone in the same places this whole time? A weak signal could be part of your problem.

The reason I ask is that there's one place I go regularly, a theater, that's in a basement and has really marginal phone reception. Every time I go there, my iPhone (and indeed, other phones I've had before it), will churn through battery like crazy trying to seek and hold onto a signal. The phone will actually get warmer from energy use. Again, this is across multiple, different types of phones and occurs nowhere else I go, so it's definitely the location. I can lose 30% of my battery in a couple hours down there.

maxosx
Feb 26, 2013, 05:07 PM
That's ludicrous! .

Thanks to Apples locked down Eco System, they're going to dictate to everyone. Mophie's lucky to get permission to do business :D

cameronjpu
Feb 26, 2013, 06:52 PM
Question: how's the phone signal where you are? Have you been using your phone in the same places this whole time? A weak signal could be part of your problem.

The reason I ask is that there's one place I go regularly, a theater, that's in a basement and has really marginal phone reception. Every time I go there, my iPhone (and indeed, other phones I've had before it), will churn through battery like crazy trying to seek and hold onto a signal. The phone will actually get warmer from energy use. Again, this is across multiple, different types of phones and occurs nowhere else I go, so it's definitely the location. I can lose 30% of my battery in a couple hours down there.

The signal where I live is excellent. I get mostly 4G LTE service. I live and work in the Washington DC area, and stick within about a 10 mile radius as I go about my day. Even when I'm sitting in one place, the phone will simply decrease in battery by about 5 to 7% every hour 24 hours a day no matter what I'm doing. I heard it thousand times, How some people can use their phone for two days without ever putting it on charger. How I should go back to the store and replace it (which I've done a couple times over the years). How I should disable some functions. The fact is, the iPhone is designed to last for about the waking day of a normal person. If you use the phone more than the typical person does, even if just by a little bit, you will Be exceeding what Apple designed the phone to do. Because, as I'm sure Apple sees it, what's the good of having a phone that lasts into the night while you're sleeping. Better to design the battery size and the performance of the phone around the need to run for 12 to 16 waking hours.

Well, I use my phone a little bit more than the usual person, Clearly, so I would just appreciate the opportunity to buy a phone that had a larger battery inside of it without having to buy an add-on case which will make the phone wider and taller as well. It doesn't appear that Apple is willing to do that, unfortunately. There is an entire market out there for people who want a phone that lasts an extended amount of time. That's why Motorola made the Maxx model.

Primejimbo
Feb 26, 2013, 08:45 PM
I've been using this case for a couple of weeks now and seems to work fine.

http://www.i-blason.com/powerglider-slim-fit-rechargeable-battery-case-for-iphone-5-lightning.html

Not pimping them, just curious if htis is better, worse or about the same as the Mophie.

FWIW
DLM

Can you buy this in a Best Buy or order them? I'm looking into one of these, just worries me about licensed and non-licensed stuff.

cameronjpu
Feb 26, 2013, 09:57 PM
Can you buy this in a Best Buy or order them? I'm looking into one of these, just worries me about licensed and non-licensed stuff.

Worry about the retail markup and all that people-contact that you have to have at a local retail store ;)

dweezle3
Feb 26, 2013, 11:39 PM
Steve Jobs was always obsessed with thin & light at any cost. It's about pretty products at Apple. Nothing new. :)

But he was also obsessed with revolutionary products, not evolutionary like the current management seems to be.

Nightarchaon
Feb 27, 2013, 01:32 AM
First you said this.


Now this.

It's nice your employer allows you to 'play games, stream video, watch movies, listen to music, browse the web and more'. :)

i do all that on the way TOO and FROM work, on the train, on my 1hr 30min each way commute.. during the working day i need email, calls and web access frequently whilst MOBILE, cant be tethered charging all day.

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But he was also obsessed with revolutionary products, not evolutionary like the current management seems to be.

Current management isn't even being evolutionary, they just seem to be trying to thin down and lighten everything, its just anorexia at Apple at the moment.

TC25
Feb 27, 2013, 03:35 AM
i do all that on the way TOO and FROM work, on the train, on my 1hr 30min each way commute.. during the working day i need email, calls and web access frequently whilst MOBILE, cant be tethered charging all day.

Perhaps Apple should offer different battery capacity just like they offer different storage capacities. Then people could choose the standard model the whole way up to the Nightarchaon model that will last at least 11 hours. Of course, that'd mean designing the phone to accommodate the largest battery, but people who don't have a 3 hour commute wont mind that compromise.

Good luck.

Nightarchaon
Feb 27, 2013, 05:00 AM
Perhaps Apple should offer different battery capacity just like they offer different storage capacities. Then people could choose the standard model the whole way up to the Nightarchaon model that will last at least 11 hours. Of course, that'd mean designing the phone to accommodate the largest battery, but people who don't have a 3 hour commute wont mind that compromise.

Good luck.

At the moment, im using a jailborken ipad mini as a phone.. you should see the wierd looks i get on the train

TC25
Feb 27, 2013, 05:48 AM
At the moment, im using a jailborken ipad mini as a phone.. you should see the wierd looks i get on the train

Samsung just announced the Galaxy Note 8, which will be sold as a phone, unlike the iPad Mini. Why Apple doesn't let you use a cellular iPad as a phone is beyond me to understand.

What jb apps do you use to use the Mini as a phone?

curmudgeon32
Feb 27, 2013, 12:20 PM
Better to design the battery size and the performance of the phone around the need to run for 12 to 16 waking hours.\

Couldn't agree with you more. I'm using a Mophie battery case for my 4S and it adds so much more bulk than would be necessary to accomodate a larger battery inside the phone itself. I'd rather add 5mm to the device than turn my phone into a big plastic mess. Even the best of these external cases still adds a TON of bulk.

Here's hoping some breakthrough in battery tech makes the thinness vs. battery debate irrelevant.

Nightarchaon
Feb 27, 2013, 01:20 PM
Samsung just announced the Galaxy Note 8, which will be sold as a phone, unlike the iPad Mini. Why Apple doesn't let you use a cellular iPad as a phone is beyond me to understand.

What jb apps do you use to use the Mini as a phone?

PhoneIt-iPad or some such, there are a few, PhoneIt-iPad i used on my iPad 1, but needed earphones with a mic in.

cameronjpu
Feb 27, 2013, 10:36 PM
Couldn't agree with you more. I'm using a Mophie battery case for my 4S and it adds so much more bulk than would be necessary to accomodate a larger battery inside the phone itself. I'd rather add 5mm to the device than turn my phone into a big plastic mess. Even the best of these external cases still adds a TON of bulk.

Here's hoping some breakthrough in battery tech makes the thinness vs. battery debate irrelevant.

Eh... you know what will happen - the phone makers will up the power usage to whatever extent necessary to get to the same "one day" battery life.

TC25
Feb 28, 2013, 03:18 AM
Eh... you know what will happen - the phone makers will up the power usage to whatever extent necessary to get to the same "one day" battery life.

Yes, I'm sure that is one of their design criteria. :rolleyes:

cameronjpu
Feb 28, 2013, 04:19 PM
Yes, I'm sure that is one of their design criteria. :rolleyes:

If you think it's not, you're crazy. It's a constant tug of war between the software guys wanting more power for new features and hardware guys saying that the battery life will be crap. Add more battery capacity and the software side will expand to fill it. Or have you not been awake to watch the computer industry for the past 30 years. Gee, isn't it weird that your computer still takes roughly the same time to boot and load Word as it always has?

TC25
Feb 28, 2013, 06:27 PM
If you think it's not, you're crazy. It's a constant tug of war between the software guys wanting more power for new features and hardware guys saying that the battery life will be crap. Add more battery capacity and the software side will expand to fill it. Or have you not been awake to watch the computer industry for the past 30 years. Gee, isn't it weird that your computer still takes roughly the same time to boot and load Word as it always has?

Clearly, Apple's design criteria favored size and weight at the expense of battery life. If people's personal criteria place battery life first, that indicates maybe an iPhone isn't the best phone for them, not that Apple is evil or ignorant. It is also clear, millions of people agree with Apple's design criteria.

cameronjpu
Mar 1, 2013, 04:59 PM
Clearly, Apple's design criteria favored size and weight at the expense of battery life. If people's personal criteria place battery life first, that indicates maybe an iPhone isn't the best phone for them, not that Apple is evil or ignorant. It is also clear, millions of people agree with Apple's design criteria.

So you're saying you agree with me now. That's better.

TC25
Mar 1, 2013, 06:52 PM
So you're saying you agree with me now.

Hardly.

/end

barkmonster
Mar 2, 2013, 03:49 AM
Exactly! Maybe I'm in the minority, but I personally wouldn't mind a phone that's even twice as thick as the current iPhone 5 if it meant double the battery life. I think Apple's taken the "thinnest phone on the market" competition a bit too far, and I'm sad to see that sacrificing features such as battery life was even a consideration for them.

Their obsession with thin is ruining some of their best products because they favour form over function.

They "could" have kept using the 30 pin dock connector, made the phone slightly thicker and used the additional space for more internal battery. I know they've probably being planning to phase out the 30 pin connector for some time, lighning doesn't seem to be something they've cobbled together as a work-around but it's still annoying that systems like the Juice Pack even need to exist.

The Phazer
Mar 2, 2013, 04:36 AM
It is also clear, millions of people agree with Apple's design criteria.

Is it? How?

If Apple sold otherwise identical phones and the thinner one sold millions of units over the thicker one with more power, then it would be clear.

But in the absence of that evidence you've just made this up.

TC25
Mar 2, 2013, 05:37 AM
Is it? How?

If Apple sold otherwise identical phones and the thinner one sold millions of units over the thicker one with more power, then it would be clear.

But in the absence of that evidence you've just made this up.

If they didn't agree, they would have bought a different phone or would be on here, or other online forums, complaining about battery life. You have zero evidence a thicker, heavier phone would sell.

This is all moot, because it's not going to happen, but I hope the 6 people on this forum who want a fatter, heavier phone keep complaining on MR because it's always been effective in the past. :rolleyes:

I know, there ought to be government standards for how long a phone battery should last and a government workers to test and enforce the regulations.

/end

htq15
Mar 4, 2013, 09:33 AM
Why is everyone talking about the iphone when the article is about mophie. I'm debating whether to get one. There are a few options out there. Right now I'm torn between the mophie www.mophie.com and the juicebox www.juiceboxpower.com, at 30% off, I'm sorta leaning toward the juicebox. Can anyone out there shed some light on this matter. Thanks.

TC25
Mar 4, 2013, 06:32 PM
Why is everyone talking about the iphone when the article is about mophie.
See post #11 for who took the thread off course.

the juicebox www.juiceboxpower.com, at 30% off, I'm sorta leaning toward the juicebox. Can anyone out there shed some light on this matter. Thanks.

I went to the juicebox site and couldn't change the currency from CAD andcouldn't see any pics but the first one.