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Feb 26, 2013, 01:01 PM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/02/leapmotionhand.jpgRealmac Software, the company behind popular gesture-based task list Clear, today announced that Clear for Mac (http://www.realmacsoftware.com/clear/) will work with the Leap Motion controller (https://www.leapmotion.com).

Leap Motion's controller is a touch-free device (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/17/former-iad-chief-andy-miller-joins-3d-motion-control-company-leap-motion/) that allows users to control their computers via hand gestures in three dimensions. It works in conjunction with the Leap Motion software, and development units have been sent to 10,000 developers around the world.

The Clear for Mac team was one set of developers that received a Leap Motion test unit, and over the last few months, the group has been working to add support for the Leap Motion controller. In a demo video, a user is shown clearing to-do items from Clear with finger swipes in the air, while a full hand swipe switches lists.

Over the past couple of months, we've been stealthily working on adding support for this futuristic piece of hardware to Clear for Mac - and today we're thrilled to announce that Clear for Mac will soon support the rather incredible Leap Motion controller.The Leap Motion controller is currently available for pre-order from the website (https://www.leapmotion.com/preorder/new) for $69.99. It is expected to ship in early 2013. Clear for Mac (http://appshopper.com/mac/productivity/clear) is available for $6.99 from the Mac App Store. [Direct Link (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/clear/id504544917?mt=12)]

Article Link: Clear for Mac to Support Leap Motion Controller (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/26/clear-for-mac-to-support-leap-motion-controller/)



baryon
Feb 26, 2013, 01:06 PM
I mean that's totally amazing and futuristic, but all this technology for something that's still faster to do with a piece of paper and a pen? I know I know this has other features too, but it seems like all this tech could be put to better use that really takes advantage of the motion recognition tech, etc...

heehee
Feb 26, 2013, 01:08 PM
Will it work with powerpoint or keynote in presentation mode?

sza
Feb 26, 2013, 01:09 PM
Leap Motion's controller seems amazing, however, I am afraid my arm may get fatigued after using it for a while :rolleyes:

Unggoy Murderer
Feb 26, 2013, 01:10 PM
While it's a fantastic bit of kit, it doesn't solve the vertical "touch" surface issue. Your arm will get tired after a while, I'm sure. Unless it's good with you resting your elbows on the table.

locoboi187
Feb 26, 2013, 01:11 PM
It's a great idea and that's all it is for now. From the videos, I think it needs to work out a few things. I wouldn't buy the first generation of these types of products.

furi0usbee
Feb 26, 2013, 01:12 PM
So not practical. So you are going to sit there all day waving your hand? What is that guy even doing with a computer? That keyboard/touchpad? He doesn't even notice it's there. Why doesn't the guy just get an iPad and use his fingers? Much easier on the arm muscles.

Forgive me, but nothing will take away my mouse/keyboard (on a computer). I have a retina MBP. The touchpad is awesome, 10x less control over my Magic Mouse. I have voice control... never used it. I can type > 100 WPM. When Siri and her ilk can beat that, I'll consider.

Maybe if you want to move your arms like that, get a Wii or something. But anyone who is creating content, will be using mouse/keyboard, and anyone who is consuming content (in the Apple ecosystem) will most likely be using an iPad, and using their fingers.

Sorry, but count me out. Somethings stand the test of time (mouse/keyboard) because there is nothing else that does a better job.

EDIT: I can see potential use for it on live porn sites... maybe to show how much you appreciate the model. Not that I'd ever use it as such.

Bryan

raazman
Feb 26, 2013, 01:17 PM
Leap Motion's controller seems amazing, however, I am afraid my arm may get fatigued after using it for a while :rolleyes:

You can use it to build arm strength.

extricated
Feb 26, 2013, 01:30 PM
This is early-on in a long (and evolving) line of new interface devices.
Great concept, but, as many have pointed out, will get your arm tired fast.

Admittedly, I'm no visionary, so I'll just wait and see what happens - I have no viable suggestions to contrast against established methods.
Looking forward to what innovation lies in the future.

Dammit Cubs
Feb 26, 2013, 02:37 PM
People who are complaining aren't seeing the the point. You WONT be using this EVERY SINGLE MOMENT. You apply simple gestures to the UI that give you quick commands you need. Nothing precise, simple. Then you keep using your mouse and keyboard combo and apply leap for something that needs a gesture and feels more natural.

There are certain things that a mouse and keyboard will always do but there are other that can fee more natural.

Lancer
Feb 26, 2013, 03:53 PM
People who are complaining aren't seeing the the point. You WONT be using this EVERY SINGLE MOMENT. You apply simple gestures to the UI that give you quick commands you need. Nothing precise, simple. Then you keep using your mouse and keyboard combo and apply leap for something that needs a gesture and feels more natural.

There are certain things that a mouse and keyboard will always do but there are other that can fee more natural.

1+

I agree, and I really wish the new iMac came with this tech built in. it would answer the whole touch screen debate going one step forward like some TVs now have and xBox has been using for a while

Yes a lot of the time it would go unused but it would bring back some of the wow factor missing from recent Apple product launches. The sensor could be built in to the iMac, maybe behind the Apple logo?

curmudgeon32
Feb 26, 2013, 04:48 PM
A better solution for Clear for Mac would be to make it work better with a keyboard and mouse. The iOS app is nice, but it's very cumbersome on the Mac. I regret buying it.

lotzosushi
Feb 26, 2013, 05:11 PM
Patiently waiting for mine... I pre-ordered spring last year! According to their Twitter they are going to announce the official ship date this week.

I've also pre-ordered the Myo. We'll see how well these might work together for some real hands free magic! I can't wait.

mozmac
Feb 26, 2013, 05:18 PM
"Hey, navigating an Xbox via the Kinect totally sucks. Let's bring that functionality to the Mac!"

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Patiently waiting for mine... I pre-ordered spring last year! According to their Twitter they are going to announce the official ship date this week.

I've also pre-ordered the Myo. We'll see how well these might work together for some real hands free magic! I can't wait.

I'm more excited about the Myo. I hope that lives up to the potential in the video. Super cool.

Krazy Bill
Feb 26, 2013, 05:47 PM
I am afraid my arm may get fatigued after using it for a while :rolleyes:But think of all the houseflies you can now terrorize and keep at bay.

fruitycups
Feb 26, 2013, 05:59 PM
These are a hard sale as long as its easier to do this by trackpad

ArtOfWarfare
Feb 26, 2013, 06:07 PM
This would make for an amazing input device on a TV... sit back in your couch and point at what you want.

It would work well for something like a TV where you only occasionally want to change anything (IE, because you're watching TV) and you wouldn't want to use it for hours on end (IE, because you're playing a game... as opposed to when you're at work and working on the computer for 4+ hours at a time.)

a0me
Feb 26, 2013, 06:37 PM
At least we don't have to worry about fingerprints on the screen.

jms969
Feb 26, 2013, 07:39 PM
So not practical. So you are going to sit there all day waving your hand? What is that guy even doing with a computer? That keyboard/touchpad? He doesn't even notice it's there. Why doesn't the guy just get an iPad and use his fingers? Much easier on the arm muscles.

Forgive me, but nothing will take away my mouse/keyboard (on a computer). I have a retina MBP. The touchpad is awesome, 10x less control over my Magic Mouse. I have voice control... never used it. I can type > 100 WPM. When Siri and her ilk can beat that, I'll consider.

Maybe if you want to move your arms like that, get a Wii or something. But anyone who is creating content, will be using mouse/keyboard, and anyone who is consuming content (in the Apple ecosystem) will most likely be using an iPad, and using their fingers.

Sorry, but count me out. Somethings stand the test of time (mouse/keyboard) because there is nothing else that does a better job.

EDIT: I can see potential use for it on live porn sites... maybe to show how much you appreciate the model. Not that I'd ever use it as such.

Bryan

Ahhhh the ramblings of those that do not understand disruptive technologies :)

aloshka
Feb 26, 2013, 09:58 PM
Other than looking retarded, why would someone use this over say... I don't know. A trackpad? Looks like so much more work. Have to move you hand up and down to select an item before you do a gesture.

Just seems weird. Move your finger in a one inch swipe vs swaying your whole damn arm to click.

lotzosushi
Feb 26, 2013, 10:48 PM
To be honest I don't really see myself getting tired on a normal day's use with hand motion gestures. I've played tennis for over 10 years, and those of us gamers that have played Wii/Kinect should be used to at least an hour or so of constant hand motions in the air.

Either way, I feel like this kind of technology will only really for showing off or fun games for now until they gain more support for different software. :) I hope it works out well! Also, I remember reading this earlier around CES that some new 2013 Asus computers will come bundled with a Leapmotion.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/01/leap-motion-asus/

ThunderSkunk
Feb 26, 2013, 10:50 PM
I operated one of these during a design, graphics, and object-based targeting software demo.

Whatever you guess they would be like, they're pretty mind-blowing to actually use.

Apple should be doing everything they can to acquire and integrate.

szw-mapple fan
Feb 27, 2013, 12:49 AM
Has anybody used this?

Nimrad
Feb 27, 2013, 02:49 AM
They should implement those functionalities into the trackpad on the MacBooks. I can see some use for it, like replacing the touch gestures, but this is not something I would buy as a separate product.

johnmacward
Feb 27, 2013, 04:03 AM
I mean that's totally amazing and futuristic, but all this technology for something that's still faster to do with a piece of paper and a pen? I know I know this has other features too, but it seems like all this tech could be put to better use that really takes advantage of the motion recognition tech, etc...

I actually believe this is still true. I still find it faster and easier to WRITE tasks down on a piece of paper rather than jumping through the 7 or 8 steps required to put a reminder or note on my phone, that goes for iPhone, Android or anything else. It's still physically easier and more satisfying to write it than type it where mistakes are easy to make and frustration increases.

Drunken Master
Feb 27, 2013, 04:25 AM
People who are complaining aren't seeing the the point. You WONT be using this EVERY SINGLE MOMENT. You apply simple gestures to the UI that give you quick commands you need. Nothing precise, simple. Then you keep using your mouse and keyboard combo and apply leap for something that needs a gesture and feels more natural.

There are certain things that a mouse and keyboard will always do but there are other that can fee more natural.

Came here to post this.

It's a supplement to a keyboard and mouse. Not everyone keeps their arms resting on the table or desk when at a computer. When you want to scroll through something with the flick of a wrist, the Leap will let you do that.

If you want.

I think this technology will be more practical in the future than touchscreens on laptop or desktop screens.

The Bulge
Feb 27, 2013, 06:54 AM
USB? Seriously?

PinoyAko
Feb 27, 2013, 07:55 AM
I wonder how many calories are we going to burn while doing this.

Snits
Feb 27, 2013, 11:37 AM
I want.:):):)

dalupus
Feb 27, 2013, 02:46 PM
Came here to post this.

It's a supplement to a keyboard and mouse. Not everyone keeps their arms resting on the table or desk when at a computer. When you want to scroll through something with the flick of a wrist, the Leap will let you do that.

If you want.

I think this technology will be more practical in the future than touchscreens on laptop or desktop screens.

Thank you. I don't understand why everyone has to view everything as a replacement. Basically touch screen without the touch. It will be a welcome addition to be able to sit back and navigate a page or a document without having to have my hands always on the keyboard and mouse.

I suspect that apple will buy this company (or someone else will) and it will become standard before you know it. People will wonder how they ever lived without it. Remember people thought the mouse was a stupid idea. Same goes for the trackpad. When they released the mouse they didn't tell you that you would never use your keyboard. They simply provided an alternative to using the keyboard for the tasks for which is made sense.

My immediate thought for how I would use this would be while reading papers (journal articles and the such). I could sit back and read the paper and use my finger to highlight stuff. As it is now I have to lean forward and put my hand on the track pad. Move it around a bit to locate the cursor then align it with the text and attempt to highlight. It would be much quicker and more intuitive to be able to simply lift my hand and point and highlight. Not having to actually reach all the way out to the screen is a big plus.

As for the person that commented about siri for mac not being a useful idea, I can think of a place I would love to have it. Reading my email. I would love to be able to pull up my mail and be able to sort through it just saying stuff like "trash", "followup", "move to work" .... It would make going through my email much quicker and easier. Not to mention I wouldn't have to have my hands on the desk constantly typing and clicking. Now if I wanted to actually write a reply well that would be done with the keyboard.

Semester
Feb 27, 2013, 02:58 PM
I hope they can integrate bluetooth into this device. It loses a lot of its nice design by having to have that cable connected all the time.

MrDc2
Feb 27, 2013, 04:45 PM
..cute...

D-a-a-n
Feb 28, 2013, 03:43 AM
The future's already there, and it's not leap. It's the MYO armband.

Tesselator
Feb 28, 2013, 05:08 PM
Awesome! Another $20 gadget that will assist me in spilling my 75 coffee all over my $50 keyboard, $200 mouse and $900 suit!

Sounds awesome! Where do I get one?

SnowLeopard2008
Feb 28, 2013, 05:23 PM
Imagine the sensor built into a laptop. Your palms resting on the palm rest. Imagine moving your fingers slightly to perform gestures. I'm serious, place your hands on your keyboard (doesn't have to be a laptop) and do a scrolling motion moving only your index finger and not your entire arm/hand. Or a side to side swiping gesture. Or pinching gesture. Your arm is not going to be tired because it's resting on the laptop's palm rest or the surface of your desk. The beauty of this is that the interface is not on the computer monitor like with current touchscreen desktops. It can be anywhere. The sensor is small enough to be embedded within today's computers. And it's not limited to a single plane of input (touchscreens can only take input in two dimensions or a single 2D surface), it's 3D. And it's also millimeter precise.

The point is you don't need to LIFT your entire arm. And the plane of input is extended to 3 dimensions.

NT1440
Feb 28, 2013, 05:28 PM
USB? Seriously?

Got a better technology to use with less latency?

Keep in mind battery life, response time, etc.

This device does finger tracking in real time, there's a reason MS went with usb over wireless for the kinect ;)

ZeemanN8878
Feb 28, 2013, 08:51 PM
A confirmation email from Leap Motion says they're shipping March 13th!

Michaelgtrusa
Mar 1, 2013, 01:49 AM
I like this.

hatersgonnahate
Apr 14, 2013, 06:48 PM
make this work for the apple tv? i always lose that little remote. :p

fluxforge
Apr 15, 2013, 02:47 PM
Has Leap shipped the pre-orders yet? I pre ordered one of the controllers back in November '12 and haven't heard back from them yet.

MacRumorUser
Apr 15, 2013, 05:08 PM
Has Leap shipped the pre-orders yet? I pre ordered one of the controllers back in November '12 and haven't heard back from them yet.

I preordered end of June 2012 and got an email about 3 weeks ago saying early pre-orders will ship fom May 1st.

I almost forgot I pre-ordered its been so long :)

mrichmon
Apr 15, 2013, 10:05 PM
This device does finger tracking in real time, there's a reason MS went with usb over wireless for the kinect ;)

Probably because MS went with wired USB for the Kinect. (With injection of additional power beyond USB specs to power the tilt motor.)

http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/kinect/kinect-sensor-setup

NT1440
Apr 17, 2013, 03:56 PM
Probably because MS went with wired USB for the Kinect. (With injection of additional power beyond USB specs to power the tilt motor.)

http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/kinect/kinect-sensor-setup

That's exactly what I meant, I can't imagine Amy wireless USB spec would pull it off

djowens1
Jul 19, 2013, 09:15 AM
Other than looking retarded, why would someone use this over say... I don't know. A trackpad? Looks like so much more work. Have to move you hand up and down to select an item before you do a gesture.

Just seems weird. Move your finger in a one inch swipe vs swaying your whole damn arm to click.

Remember: According to Leap Motion, their controller is designed to "augment" the mouse and keyboard, not replace them. So, to be able to navigate in some apps, and perform basic finder actions with this device would definitely help. Of course, we definitely will see how this device fares when they finally come out with it to the masses!