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abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 04:07 AM
Hi all

What do you guys tend to use as backing up solutions for your MBA. At the moment any important files I keep a back up of it on drop box.

However I am just thinking maybe I should have a solution to back up my whole MBA. My ideal solution would be a wireless backup.

I don't have an external HD or anything so what do you suggest. Is the easiest and not too expensive solution. I mean someone mentioned carbon clone etc to me the other day but I will need to have an external HD connected with cable to my MBA. Plus do not know too much about that application.

Thanks in advance



Xe89
Mar 2, 2013, 04:30 AM
Actually, Dropbox is NOT a backup service. It is a syncing service. Read about it here:

http://gigaom.com/2010/03/26/syncing-does-not-a-backup-make/

and here:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4703943

It is an important distinction. With a sync service everything that happens on the server also happens on your computer. So if your Dropbox data got corrupted for whatever reason, your files on your computer would be in danger. If you have an actual backup service, then a failure on the service only means that you have to re-upload your data from your computer.

And if you delete a file by mistake in your Dropbox folder on your computer, the file also gets deleted on the server. Sure, there is a file history feature on the Dropbox website. But that's only for 30 days. Maybe you discover your mistake months afterward. A true backup service keeps ALL your files, even if they are deleted on your computer. And with the Dropbox feature you can only restore individual files. Sure you can contact Dropbox support and ask them to restore your folder to a given time, but good luck with that on a free account.

Now don't get me wrong, Dropbox is a great service for what it is and I use it all the time. But don't use it for backup. I use an application called Arq, but maybe that is to expensive for a whole computer. I would recommend it for your most important documents and photos however.

nightmars
Mar 2, 2013, 04:36 AM
Time Machine (Software included with your MBA) + 1 Time Capsule ( http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/ ) = DONE !

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 05:32 AM
Actually, Dropbox is NOT a backup service. It is a syncing service. Read about it here:

http://gigaom.com/2010/03/26/syncing-does-not-a-backup-make/

and here:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4703943

It is an important distinction. With a sync service everything that happens on the server also happens on your computer. So if your Dropbox data got corrupted for whatever reason, your files on your computer would be in danger. If you have an actual backup service, then a failure on the service only means that you have to re-upload your data from your computer.

And if you delete a file by mistake in your Dropbox folder on your computer, the file also gets deleted on the server. Sure, there is a file history feature on the Dropbox website. But that's only for 30 days. Maybe you discover your mistake months afterward. A true backup service keeps ALL your files, even if they are deleted on your computer. And with the Dropbox feature you can only restore individual files. Sure you can contact Dropbox support and ask them to restore your folder to a given time, but good luck with that on a free account.

Now don't get me wrong, Dropbox is a great service for what it is and I use it all the time. But don't use it for backup. I use an application called Arq, but maybe that is to expensive for a whole computer. I would recommend it for your most important documents and photos however.

Oh okay. Thanks for the detailed information regarding Dropbox. I will try and have a look at your suggestion.

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Time Machine (Software included with your MBA) + 1 Time Capsule ( http://www.apple.com/timecapsule/ ) = DONE !

Thanks for that. Problem is, its a bit expensive though :(

iSP
Mar 2, 2013, 06:21 AM
If you don't mind refurbished, Best Buy has the 2TB Time Capsule (Refurbished) for $179.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Time+Capsule+-+Refurbished+2TB+External+Wireless+Network+Hard+Drive/4020162.p?id=1218450205329&skuId=4020162&st=refurbished%20time%20capsule&cp=1&lp=2

tbobmccoy
Mar 2, 2013, 06:44 AM
The best way really is to buy a used AirPort Extreme and an external USB HDD. Cheaper than time capsule, and you get what you want from it. I've enacted this solution for 4 years and it works great.

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 06:52 AM
The best way really is to buy a used AirPort Extreme and an external USB HDD. Cheaper than time capsule, and you get what you want from it. I've enacted this solution for 4 years and it works great.

So you mean connect the airport exteme to my wireless router wirelessly and then connect the external USB HDD to the exteme via USB cable?

Then this way I can use it wirelessly via time capsule?

Ps does it have to be an airport exteme or an airport express. Do they do the same thing?

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If you don't mind refurbished, Best Buy has the 2TB Time Capsule (Refurbished) for $179.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Time+Capsule+-+Refurbished+2TB+External+Wireless+Network+Hard+Drive/4020162.p?id=1218450205329&skuId=4020162&st=refurbished%20time%20capsule&cp=1&lp=2

Thanks problem is I don't have best buy in my country.

tbobmccoy
Mar 2, 2013, 08:19 AM
So you mean connect the airport exteme to my wireless router wirelessly and then connect the external USB HDD to the exteme via USB cable?

Then this way I can use it wirelessly via time capsule?

Ps does it have to be an airport exteme or an airport express. Do they do the same thing?

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Thanks problem is I don't have best buy in my country.

If you can replace your current wireless router with an AirPort Extreme, you can use time machine wirelessly with its USB port. The airport express only uses the USB port for wireless printing. I think, but can't verify, that the AirPort Extreme will allow time machine in bridge mode (how you described it), but I've never tried.

Boyd01
Mar 2, 2013, 08:58 AM
I have a few different time machine external backup disks that I rotate between. One of them is little Passport bus powered drive with an encrypted backup that I keep stashed in my car, just in case the house burns down or if I need access to my data away from home. :)

Weaselboy
Mar 2, 2013, 09:57 AM
So you mean connect the airport exteme to my wireless router wirelessly and then connect the external USB HDD to the exteme via USB cable?

Then this way I can use it wirelessly via time capsule?

That is the idea. Just be aware that using an external disk attached to a Airport Extreme for backup is not supported by Apple (http://pondini.org/TM/Airport.html). Many here report it works fine for them, but other users report it is inconsistent and sometimes just stops working. The Lion and Mountain Lion help files even tell you not to do it.

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 10:32 AM
That is the idea. Just be aware that using an external disk attached to a Airport Extreme for backup is not supported by Apple (http://pondini.org/TM/Airport.html). Many here report it works fine for them, but other users report it is inconsistent and sometimes just stops working. The Lion and Mountain Lion help files even tell you not to do it.

Lol now you have put a doubt to that idea in my head now lol.
I went into apple store today just to ask same question. They said it will work with the apple exteme. My set up that I was thinking as advised here. That I got told at the store when I connect the exteme to my MBA it will atomically give me some options to connect to my router and then connect it to a USB external HDD. Even on apples website it tells you that you can use it to connect this way. So now I am confused. As I do have lion on my MBA.

Check out this share my hard drive section near the bottom of this page:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD031LL/A/airport-extreme-base-station

Weaselboy
Mar 2, 2013, 10:44 AM
Lol now you have put a doubt to that idea in my head now lol.
I went into apple store today just to ask same question. They said it will work with the apple exteme. My set up that I was thinking as advised here. That I got told at the store when I connect the exteme to my MBA it will atomically give me some options to connect to my router and then connect it to a USB external HDD. Even on apples website it tells you that you can use it to connect this way. So now I am confused. As I do have lion on my MBA.

Check out this share my hard drive section near the bottom of this page:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD031LL/A/airport-extreme-base-station

You can share files on a USB drive attached to the Extreme, but Time Machine is different and not supported. Look at this Apple support page (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2421?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US) and you will see the only device that shows it works for Time Machine is the Time Capsule.

Go to the help on your machine and search "time machine" and you will find the below info that specifically says not to use a USB attached to an Extreme.

http://imageshack.us/a/img189/7194/helpcenter.png

Like I said, some people get it to work and have no trouble, and others have problems. I would not trust my data to it. It is your call. :)

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 10:50 AM
You can share files on a USB drive attached to the Extreme, but Time Machine is different and not supported. Look at this Apple support page (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2421?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US) and you will see the only device that shows it works for Time Machine is the Time Capsule.

Go to the help on your machine and search "time machine" and you will find the below info that specifically says not to use a USB attached to an Extreme.

http://imageshack.us/a/img189/7194/helpcenter.png

Like I said, some people get it to work and have no trouble, and others have problems. I would not trust my data to it. It is your call. :)


Guess your right. You make a point.
I either spend money on an exteme and external HDD and run the risk of it not working properly and waisting my money.

Or save up a bit and get the time capsule.

Weaselboy
Mar 2, 2013, 10:52 AM
Guess your right. You make a point.
I either spend money on an exteme and external HDD and run the risk of it not working properly and waisting my money.

Or save up a bit and get the time capsule.

Do you already have a working router? Maybe you can get by now with just a cheap external USB drive and plug it in to the Macbook when you want to do a backup.

rufhausen
Mar 2, 2013, 10:59 AM
For now, I'm just using a small, USB powered external HD with Time Machine. This is not my main computer, so constant backups are not a big deal. Whenever I charge the MBA in my office, I try to remember to attach the HD as well.
"USB powered" is what I think makes this attractive for a MBA. These are usually very small, so you can take it everywhere you take the MBA and not have to worry about finding an outlet for it.

You could also use something like Backblaze for cloud backups. Unlike Dropbox, you don't really have instant access to your files, but it is a true incremental, versioned backup solution.

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 11:26 AM
You can share files on a USB drive attached to the Extreme, but Time Machine is different and not supported. Look at this Apple support page (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2421?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US) and you will see the only device that shows it works for Time Machine is the Time Capsule.

Go to the help on your machine and search "time machine" and you will find the below info that specifically says not to use a USB attached to an Extreme.

http://imageshack.us/a/img189/7194/helpcenter.png

Like I said, some people get it to work and have no trouble, and others have problems. I would not trust my data to it. It is your call. :)

Come to think of it. When I look at my requirements again I think I am just trying to think of a lazy way and easy way of doing things. Keeping all things wireless I think it's cuz I have a wireless printer router wifi everything is in a wireless world for me.

I guess if I pay for a decent external portable HDD ( even though I don't take my MBA out the house much but like the idea of portable) would just do my needs. All I really have to do is maybe connect it via USB cable to my MBA once a week for a back up etc. Then I can put it away again. I guess now the question is of a good not so expensive reliable portable HDD. I guess the key thing here is to get a HDD that meets my current total HDD space on my MBA. Any suggestions.

I appreciate the help everyone giving me in my original dilemma however I guess now it's a matter of just having an external HDD.

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 11:40 AM
I have a few different time machine external backup disks that I rotate between. One of them is little Passport bus powered drive with an encrypted backup that I keep stashed in my car, just in case the house burns down or if I need access to my data away from home. :)


Is this the kind you have:

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/western-digital-my-passport-portable-hard-drive-1tb-silver-18893021-pdt.html

How your finding your passport bus?

Weaselboy
Mar 2, 2013, 11:44 AM
I guess now the question is of a good not so expensive reliable portable HDD. I guess the key thing here is to get a HDD that meets my current total HDD space on my MBA. Any suggestions.

I appreciate the help everyone giving me in my original dilemma however I guess now it's a matter of just having an external HDD.

The WD My Passport line (http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Drive-Storage/dp/B006Y5UV4A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362246189&sr=8-2&keywords=wd+passport) is pretty popular and reasonably priced.

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 12:03 PM
The WD My Passport line (http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Drive-Storage/dp/B006Y5UV4A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362246189&sr=8-2&keywords=wd+passport) is pretty popular and reasonably priced.



Thanks

Thinking of this one: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/western-digital-my-passport-portable-hard-drive-500gb-blue-17853523-pdt.html

I have a 20 coupon off for this retailer. So I can get the price reduced. Now this is a n00b question. However is it easy to reformat this to mac os x lion. Any simple instructions?

thanks in advance.

nightmars
Mar 2, 2013, 12:10 PM
As an alternative you could just add an external network HDD (eg. WD Mybook Live) to your router. --> wireless backups !!!

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 12:40 PM
As an alternative you could just add an external network HDD (eg. WD Mybook Live) to your router. --> wireless backups !!!

Is that easy to set to that type of connection?

Weaselboy
Mar 2, 2013, 12:52 PM
Thanks

Thinking of this one: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/western-digital-my-passport-portable-hard-drive-500gb-blue-17853523-pdt.html

I have a 20 coupon off for this retailer. So I can get the price reduced. Now this is a n00b question. However is it easy to reformat this to mac os x lion. Any simple instructions?

thanks in advance.

That is a good deal!

Here (http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1075) is a step by step how to format the disk with Disk Utility.

nightmars
Mar 2, 2013, 01:15 PM
Is that easy to set to that type of connection?

Well, I have two WD MyBook World (the predecessor) hooked to my Time Capsule. They immediately showed up in Finder after connecting them for the first time. When selecting a location for Time Machine (The backup location) they are showing as well- so on OS X basically no setup needed :-)

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 02:38 PM
Well, I have two WD MyBook World (the predecessor) hooked to my Time Capsule. They immediately showed up in Finder after connecting them for the first time. When selecting a location for Time Machine (The backup location) they are showing as well- so on OS X basically no setup needed :-)

Cool set up. Think me just going to keep it wired now with my previous idea. Cheers for that though.

Boyd01
Mar 2, 2013, 02:40 PM
Is this the kind you have:

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/western-digital-my-passport-portable-hard-drive-1tb-silver-18893021-pdt.html


Yes, except I have the 500GB model that was pre-formatted for the Mac. I figured that would be enough for the 256GB SSD which currently only has about 120GB on it.

How your finding your passport bus?

Sorry, but I don't understand that question...

I have a 2011 MBA that doesn't have USB 3. Don't know if there are any issues with the 2012 models and USB 3.

abz1981
Mar 2, 2013, 02:40 PM
That is a good deal!

Here (http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1075) is a step by step how to format the disk with Disk Utility.

Cheers for that.

abz1981
Mar 4, 2013, 03:31 PM
Hey all
I bought my password wd today. It was for windows 8, so I have formatted it using disk utility, following these instructions: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1075 provided by weaselboy.

However I have some silly questions, on step 2 on that link on the left handside i selected my external hdd, you get 2 icons though on the right, i went for the top one, as pictured and highlighted. However why is there a smaller icon below that, as some people may get confused and try click on the second smaller icon.

Also in step 4, i selected mac os extended (journaled) but other ones for mac are showing too. Why are other mac os options available.

step 6 i didn't have, however it just showed me fastest and other options, i kept it to default and went for fastest option.

Is this done all right now? As above. Also I went onto :

http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=217&sid=158&lang=en

i saw this link when i visited the website link on the document i got with the hdd. Do i really need to install all those options for my mba which is on lion?

I have done my back up to time machine, so that seemed to went okay.
sorry if questions sound silly. thanks in advance.

Weaselboy
Mar 4, 2013, 04:02 PM
Hey all
I bought my password wd today. It was for windows 8, so I have formatted it using disk utility, following these instructions: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1075 provided by weaselboy.

However I have some silly questions, on step 2 on that link on the left handside i selected my external hdd, you get 2 icons though on the right, i went for the top one, as pictured and highlighted. However why is there a smaller icon below that, as some people may get confused and try click on the second smaller icon.

Also in step 4, i selected mac os extended (journaled) but other ones for mac are showing too. Why are other mac os options available.

step 6 i didn't have, however it just showed me fastest and other options, i kept it to default and went for fastest option.

Is this done all right now? As above. Also I went onto :

http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=217&sid=158&lang=en

i saw this link when i visited the website link on the document i got with the hdd. Do i really need to install all those options for my mba which is on lion?

I have done my back up to time machine, so that seemed to went okay.
sorry if questions sound silly. thanks in advance.

The reason the web site has that second smaller LACIE icon there is because they had already formatted/erased the drive and called it LACIE. If you open Disk Util now and look at your drive will see the upper label that says WD 500GB whatever, then below that you will see the smaller one with whatever you named the partition you made. They did not start with a unpartitioned (blank) drive is why you see that. Sounds like you did everything correctly.

You did the right thing there in step six. Those slower options are a secure erase process that overwrites the whole drive with zeroes so nobody can recover data from the drive. For a new blank drive like you have, there is no need to do that.

Those other formatting options are in case you want to make a disk for us on other systems. For example the MS-DOS one is to format a drive to be used with Windows.

As far as all the WD software, no you don't need any of it. But it would not be a bad idea to run the OS X firmware updater to update the firmware on your new drive to the latest version.

You seem to have everything dialed in nicely.

eagleglen
Mar 4, 2013, 10:23 PM
If I was to buy an external HD to do wired backups via Time Machine, does it need to use the whole HD? Could I keep other data on it as well? But if I did that, would it be best to partition the HD so Time Machine had its own partition?

Generally how big of a backup drive do you need for a given size internal. For example, my SSD is 256.

Weaselboy
Mar 5, 2013, 06:39 AM
If I was to buy an external HD to do wired backups via Time Machine, does it need to use the whole HD? Could I keep other data on it as well? But if I did that, would it be best to partition the HD so Time Machine had its own partition?

Generally how big of a backup drive do you need for a given size internal. For example, my SSD is 256.

Yes, you can partition and keep other data on the drive just fine. You don't have to partition, but it makes things easier to manage if you do. You could just make a folder on the TM drive and dump files in there if you don't want to partition.

As far as backup size, there is not a hard rule. It really does not matter your drive size (256GB in your case), but what matters is how much data you have or think you may have on that drive. Then add a cushion on top of that for TM to keep versions of files. In my case I have a 128GB drive with only about 60GB of data on it and I add very little over time to the drive... so even if I doubled that for some versions, 120GB or so would be plenty.

To summarize, I like to use a drive/partition around 1.5 to 2.0 times the size of the amount of data I think will be involved, which is not necessarily the same as the drive size. Hope this helps.

abz1981
Mar 5, 2013, 01:34 PM
The reason the web site has that second smaller LACIE icon there is because they had already formatted/erased the drive and called it LACIE. If you open Disk Util now and look at your drive will see the upper label that says WD 500GB whatever, then below that you will see the smaller one with whatever you named the partition you made. They did not start with a unpartitioned (blank) drive is why you see that. Sounds like you did everything correctly.

You did the right thing there in step six. Those slower options are a secure erase process that overwrites the whole drive with zeroes so nobody can recover data from the drive. For a new blank drive like you have, there is no need to do that.

Those other formatting options are in case you want to make a disk for us on other systems. For example the MS-DOS one is to format a drive to be used with Windows.

As far as all the WD software, no you don't need any of it. But it would not be a bad idea to run the OS X firmware updater to update the firmware on your new drive to the latest version.

You seem to have everything dialed in nicely.

Thanks buddy for your help. Its going well now. :)

eagleglen
Mar 5, 2013, 02:12 PM
To summarize, I like to use a drive/partition around 1.5 to 2.0 times the size of the amount of data I think will be involved, which is not necessarily the same as the drive size. Hope this helps.

Thx for your help. I'm still a bit confused as to how Time Machine works. If I don't keep it restricted to its own partition, and say just have it in a folder, won't it eventually use all the space on the HD in which it resides, as it continues to store my history? Or can you limit it to how much space it uses?

Also does TM make a clone of my SSD? So does it back up my system and all my apps too? When you said to just account for my data, I was thinking these needed to be included too. I've seen posts that suggest having a clone and TM, but is that really necessary??

Weaselboy
Mar 5, 2013, 02:37 PM
Thx for your help. I'm still a bit confused as to how Time Machine works. If I don't keep it restricted to its own partition, and say just have it in a folder, won't it eventually use all the space on the HD in which it resides, as it continues to store my history? Or can you limit it to how much space it uses?

You would not put the TM backup in a folder, you would put your extra files you want to store in a folder. Yes, TM will continue to expand to use all space on the partition, but depending on how much data you have and what kind of work you do on the machine, it can take a very very long time to expand enough to fill a partition.

Using myself again as an example, my SSD has a total 60GB used and my TM backup was started fresh in October. I just checked and total space now used by the TM backup is 75GB. So the TM drive I use would not fill for ages.

Now if you work with 10GB HD video files and versions of those are saved every hour on the hour.... one could very easily fill up a partition with TM backups.

Like I mentioned, it is easier and cleaner to manage if you make a separate partition for TM.

Also does TM make a clone of my SSD? So does it back up my system and all my apps too? When you said to just account for my data, I was thinking these needed to be included too.

Yes, TM makes a complete copy (clone) of your drive, including the OS, all apps, and your personal files/documents/music etc. When I said "data", I meant all of that, not just personal data. Sorry I was not clear. Unless you specifically exclude things, every single thing on the drive gets backed up with TM. (There are some cache files that TM excludes to save unnecessary backups, but they are not needed.)

I've seen posts that suggest having a clone and TM, but is that really necessary??

What you see people suggesting is using something like the app Carbon Copy Cloner (http://www.bombich.com) (CCC) to make a copy of your drive on a partition/drive. This "clones" the data exactly the same way TM does with one difference in the end result.

With a TM backup, if your internal drive completely dies, you would need to get a new drive installed, then you could option key boot to the TM disk and use that to restore all your data.

If that happened with CCC, you could also option key boot from the CCC backup and restore all data to the new drive... same as TM. CCC adds one feature to this scenario that may or may not be important to you. With the CCC backup you can option key boot and choose the CCC partition and the computer will actually start and run (albeit very slowly) off the external drive. This would allow you (even with a dead internal drive) to use the computer until you could get a new drive installed.

If what I described is something that would be important to you, it is not a bad idea to also do a CCC backup. You can use one drive with two partitions to do this.

eagleglen
Mar 5, 2013, 03:03 PM
If what I described is something that would be important to you, it is not a bad idea to also do a CCC backup. You can use one drive with two partitions to do this.

Thank you very much. That was nice and clear, and very helpful. :-)

jdechko
Mar 5, 2013, 03:16 PM
Time Machine is great in that it got average people thinking about data backup. Local backups are better than nothing, don't get me wrong, but don't forget about an offsite backup as well. An offsite backup can safeguard against fires, earthquakes, floods & theft.

Quite a few options exist for offsite backup: CrashPlan, Carbonite, Backblaze and Mozy are just a few. They're all relatively cheap too.

Personally, I chose CrashPlan. One of the other things that I like about it is that you can allow family and friends to back up to your computer as well. So I have a 2TB drive in an old windows machine that is the backup server for our home media, my wife's MBP, my mom's desktop (who lives cross-country) and my future laptop. My Dropbox folder is backed up, so I have the Dropbox 30-day recovery and my own backup as well. The home media and MBP are also backed up on CrashPlan's servers too. Total, we have 400+GB backed, and we pay $14/mo for 2-10 computers.

Boyd01
Mar 7, 2013, 07:13 AM
Local backups are better than nothing, don't get me wrong, but don't forget about an offsite backup as well.

As I posted above, I keep one of my encrypted time machine backups on a little Passport drive stashed in my car. :)

Amplelink
Mar 10, 2013, 01:37 AM
Time Machine is great in that it got average people thinking about data backup. Local backups are better than nothing, don't get me wrong, but don't forget about an offsite backup as well. An offsite backup can safeguard against fires, earthquakes, floods & theft.

Quite a few options exist for offsite backup: CrashPlan, Carbonite, Backblaze and Mozy are just a few. They're all relatively cheap too.

Personally, I chose CrashPlan. One of the other things that I like about it is that you can allow family and friends to back up to your computer as well. So I have a 2TB drive in an old windows machine that is the backup server for our home media, my wife's MBP, my mom's desktop (who lives cross-country) and my future laptop. My Dropbox folder is backed up, so I have the Dropbox 30-day recovery and my own backup as well. The home media and MBP are also backed up on CrashPlan's servers too. Total, we have 400+GB backed, and we pay $14/mo for 2-10 computers.

Here's another vote for Crashplan. Love it. Unlimited backup space and cheap.

In addition to Crashplan, I keep certain files synced on Dropbox and I rotate a Time Machine backup among three different external HDDs. At least one of the three is in a different geographic location.

Paulywauly
Mar 10, 2013, 11:33 AM
Here's another vote for Crashplan. Love it. Unlimited backup space and cheap.

In addition to Crashplan, I keep certain files synced on Dropbox and I rotate a Time Machine backup among three different external HDDs. At least one of the three is in a different geographic location.

+ Another vote for Crashplan. You can also back up your Dropbox folder with Crashplan too, giving you an additional layer of protection. They also never delete backed up files, which is always helpful in the event you want to recover something you deleted a while back.

Coupled with local hard drive backups (Such as Time Machine, Carbon Copy Cloner etc) your backups would be bulletproof, giving you the advantages of both cloud/local backup with the disadvantages of neither

jojoba
Mar 10, 2013, 12:39 PM
I back up to two different hard drives using SuperDuper, CarbonCopyCloner and Time Machine. One is partitioned in three, and two of those partitions have my SuperDuper and Time Machine Backup. The other hard drive has a partition with my CCC back up on it.

If I were to start all over I would leave SuperDuper out of the mix and do TM plus CCC, but I bought SD before CCC so I've just kept using it.

OnceYouGoMac
Mar 13, 2013, 01:28 PM
I use the same external hard drive as I use for my Macbook Pro. I just put the stuff into a separate folder.