PDA

View Full Version : How do you deal with the 128GB SSD in the MBA?




MACelmore
Mar 11, 2013, 07:14 PM
New member here, hello all! I searched through a few pages on the forum and haven't found anything, so here goes nothing!

Ok, so I'm making the switch from Windows to Mac this weekend (maybe???? I may wait until the refresh).

If I do end up buying this weekend, how do you owners of MBAs with 128GB SSD balance such a small amount of storage? I have a rather extensive iTunes library and a load of pics and documents. Do you move your entire iTunes library to an external HD to free up that much room? When I'll be portable with the Air, I wouldn't have much use for iTunes.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!



Spink10
Mar 11, 2013, 07:20 PM
I dont have any pics on my Air and I only have my Music on iTunes on my MBA - entire collection is on my iMac and most of my collection on my cMBP.

MACelmore
Mar 11, 2013, 07:42 PM
Ahhh, that helps when you have more than one Mac. What if I plan on making the Air my main and only computer.

Spink10
Mar 11, 2013, 07:44 PM
Ahhh, that helps when you have more than one Mac. What if I plan on making the Air my main and only computer.

External Hard Drive - going to need to move files back and forth - unless you pay more $$ for 256 / 512 SSD.


Or

Cloud service

thejadedmonkey
Mar 11, 2013, 07:46 PM
You sell your mac and buy a PC. At least, that's what I did. I'm looking to get a MacBook Pro, but if the classics are gone by the time I'm ready to purchase I'm not 100% sure what I'll do.

tdhurst
Mar 11, 2013, 08:00 PM
Use iTunes Match and/or think deeply about why you'd need to carry around so much music.

617aircav
Mar 11, 2013, 08:05 PM
New member here, hello all! I searched through a few pages on the forum and haven't found anything, so here goes nothing!

Ok, so I'm making the switch from Windows to Mac this weekend (maybe???? I may wait until the refresh).

If I do end up buying this weekend, how do you owners of MBAs with 128GB SSD balance such a small amount of storage? I have a rather extensive iTunes library and a load of pics and documents. Do you move your entire iTunes library to an external HD to free up that much room? When I'll be portable with the Air, I wouldn't have much use for iTunes.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Just put what you actually use on it.

coldjeanzzz
Mar 11, 2013, 08:07 PM
No problems here. Over the first month of use I had about 60 GB free, now about 1.5 months later I have 61 GB free space so I somehow gained space lol. I have about a 13 GB music collection and it probably won't get any bigger than 20 GB over the next few years because I delete stuff I don't like anymore. I also do not store photos or movies in bulk on my SSD, I'll keep a few files lying around here and there and then delete them when I don't need them anymore.

I don't have an external drive either, just a 4 GB flash drive for the occasional transfer (although I need to get a new one this one is super slow).

MACelmore
Mar 11, 2013, 08:15 PM
Use iTunes Match and/or think deeply about why you'd need to carry around so much music.

It's not having to carry around the music that bothers me. I have an iPhone for that. My question is how effective would iTunes work if all of its music on an external HD? As far as syncing with said iPhone or handling new music.

Maybe I'm used to iTunes on Windows and there's a difference when using iTunes on Mac....?

----------

No problems here. Over the first month of use I had about 60 GB free, now about 1.5 months later I have 61 GB free space so I somehow gained space lol. I have about a 13 GB music collection and it probably won't get any bigger than 20 GB over the next few years because I delete stuff I don't like anymore. I also do not store photos or movies in bulk on my SSD, I'll keep a few files lying around here and there and then delete them when I don't need them anymore.

I don't have an external drive either, just a 4 GB flash drive for the occasional transfer (although I need to get a new one this one is super slow).

That's a huge help! Thanks. I don't have nearly as much music as you do. And that's my main concern. Thanks!

cppp
Mar 11, 2013, 08:57 PM
i use one of these.
you can store a few things on their like virtual machines, photos, music or what ever you want to put on their.

http://theniftyminidrive.com
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1342319572/the-nifty-minidrive


basically it allows you to use your memory card slot as expandable storage.
The nice thing is that it sits flush with the case of the mba/p so you can leave it in their and not ever have to worry about it.


Their is also a cheaper option on ebay aswell which does the exact same job

MACelmore
Mar 11, 2013, 09:09 PM
i use one of these.
you can store a few things on their like virtual machines, photos, music or what ever you want to put on their.

http://theniftyminidrive.com
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1342319572/the-nifty-minidrive


basically it allows you to use your memory card slot as expandable storage.
The nice thing is that it sits flush with the case of the mba/p so you can leave it in their and not ever have to worry about it.


Their is also a cheaper option on ebay aswell which does the exact same job


O.M.G.! That is absolutely PERFECTION. Apparently the nifty minidrive hasn't started production as of yet, but the minidrives on Amazon have great reviews. I think I've found my answer, which means I just may get the Air this weekend. Thank you thank you thank you thank you :D:D:D:D

AnorexicPig
Mar 11, 2013, 09:32 PM
Weirdly I have 96gb free :D,I deleted the sleep image,garageband and iMovie and used monolingual (freed up around 10 GB). Deleted iPhoto for Aperture, and keep my Mac free of any useless files.

I have around 6GB of music, 7GB of photos and around 4GB of apps. All my movies and other not frequently used stuff goes on an external 3.0 hard drive.

Mrbobb
Mar 11, 2013, 09:37 PM
Ahhh, that helps when you have more than one Mac. What if I plan on making the Air my main and only computer.


That's a major limitation.

U maybe able to use an external drive but then u can't sync while on the road until u take the external w you.

\-V-/
Mar 11, 2013, 09:57 PM
I store everything on my 3 TB external. Regardless, having only 128 GB is a pain in the butt. 256 GB at least would be somewhat tolerable.

If you're gonna be on the road a lot, get a WD Passport or something similar. Can bring 1-2 TB wherever you go, powered by USB.

ka-spot
Mar 12, 2013, 05:07 AM
I have 24GB for Win 7 via Parallels, 30GB Free and the rest ~67GB is OSX and apps.

Abazigal
Mar 12, 2013, 08:49 AM
I use the 64gb air and still have about 25gb spare. Mostly documents, no music and stuff.

Kissaragi
Mar 12, 2013, 09:38 AM
64gb usb3 memory sticks are pretty cheap now and good for putting videos and stuff on. This is what I use with my 64gb MBA

If your at home most of the time I guess a nice NAS drive would be the best option. Or some kind of cloud service.

JohnnyComeLatly
Mar 12, 2013, 10:48 AM
You can get 32Gb micro USB's for about $19 or less and just put your music on there. If you have seriously more, then you'll have to consider your connectivity and using Match.

Me? With my 128 Gb MBA, I do both, or, could do all three. I have my iTunes on a NAS (3Tb) drive, and have iTunes. To me, it's silly to think of your MBA as the music storage spot on trips. That's what my Nano, or even iPad is capable of doing and a better job at that. I can take a Nano into a store and "borrow" a charge (in a pinch) easier than my MBA.

I use the 32Gb to create bootable USBs to play around with other OSs. I've got a fully bootable Ubuntu, and tonight I'm going to try again with BootCamp to create a bootable Win7. I suspect a dodgy ISO was my problem last time.

I have about 60Gb free with tons of pics on it. I did move home movies off, as I don't really watch them on the road. I'll put movies I want to watch in a specific folder (exempted from Time Machine backups), which get deleted when I return.

These are just some ideas.... I thought I'd be hurting but things are ok with 128 Gb.

On a side note, depending on your geeks skils with connectivity availability, most NAS drives lately will also work with DyDNS so you could in effect have your own 'cloud' (misusing the term). Meaning, you can hit a drive at home via an internet connection to your own domain name. I'd be careful with this scenario as I'd assume anything I hang out there will be hacked (don't save your 1040 tax form onto it), and check what your ISP allows for remote connections to your home network.

vix2000
Mar 12, 2013, 12:40 PM
I was just going to ask the same question, mine is forever filling up, today it said I couldn't back up my iphone as there wasn't enough space. I have been looking at this Seagate STAM3000200 3TB, but it has terrible reviews. It says it automatically backs up your computer so would be great for the mb air. I would like to be able to save my music and photos directly from the iphone to something, bypassing the mb air altogether. The nifty minidrive looks good but no memory card slot on my macbook air.

tdhurst
Mar 12, 2013, 12:44 PM
I was just going to ask the same question, mine is forever filling up, today it said I couldn't back up my iphone as there wasn't enough space. I have been looking at this Seagate STAM3000200 3TB, but it has terrible reviews. It says it automatically backs up your computer so would be great for the mb air. I would like to be able to save my music and photos directly from the iphone to something, bypassing the mb air altogether.

iTunes Match.

Cheaper than a hard drive.

barkmonster
Mar 12, 2013, 01:43 PM
My system with a lot of third party applications and sound libraries only comes in at around 30Gb excluding my itunes library.

Simply put your library on separate drive and plug it in when you need to use the files.

The support files for iTunes are here:-

YOUR USERNAME/music/iTunes/

Move the contents of the music folder inside the iTunes folder at that location to your external drive and then change the preferences in iTunes so it points to your external drive.

The itunes library (iTunes Library.xml, iTunes Music Library.xml etc.... not the actual audio, apps etc...) and artwork files remain on your internal drive with all the media on the external one. I have all my iTunes files in a folder called Media on my main drive to make backing up easier but the same technique would work no matter where you move your library to, I chose the name "Media" for convenience because I also moved the iPhoto library there too.

This may seem unnessasary with my setup but I'm planning ahead. I have a bootable clone of my OS on a small external USB drive and once I get a larger internal drive (Probably a 256Gb SSD or 750Gb Scorpio Black with a partition for multi-track audio), I'm cloning the system onto my SSD to boot from that instead, the media folder onto the new internal drive and then using my current internal drive as a bootable backup.

vix2000
Mar 12, 2013, 02:49 PM
Are time capsules worth the money as compared to the cheaper external drives?

Moccasin
Mar 12, 2013, 02:57 PM
I've had my 128GB MBA for just under 2 years now and it has only just got to the point where I need to do something about disk space.

All my iTunes library is on there, as are a fair amount of photos, Office for Mac and a few other programs.

I have a ReadyNAS Duo for backup and for the larger photo library; the backup to the NAS is through Time Machine.

I am now looking at options for long term fils management. At the moment the mid level Mac Mini is looking favourite for my full iTunes library and as a desktop.

rbrian
Mar 12, 2013, 07:00 PM
I used to have a 320GB MacBook Pro, then when my iTunes library outgrew it, I changed to a 500GB and then 1TB internal drive. Once I outgrew that, which was the largest drive that would fit, I bought a Mac mini and currently have 2 3TB USB drives attached, containing my iTunes library and backup. After I'd set that up, I was finally free to switch to the Air which I'd wanted to do ever since I first saw the 11".

I have about 30GB of my 128GB free, and that's with a 20GB Bootcamp partition. If I'm going away I plan ahead and copy some movies across using a 32GB USB stick. Sometimes I just leave them on the stick, they play fine.

I keep my work documents on an 8GB USB stick, mostly because the USB ports are still unlocked on my work laptop, but all the cloud services are blocked (except SharePoint, which I can't access from my Mac), and there is a 7MB email limit. It's a bit slow to open documents with USB 2, but not much slower than my work laptop's 5400 rpm hard drive.

RafaelCastro
Mar 12, 2013, 07:04 PM
Buy an external hard drive and make all programs folders to be in it.

DisplacedMic
Mar 12, 2013, 07:21 PM
That's a major limitation.

U maybe able to use an external drive but then u can't sync while on the road until u take the external w you.

seconded. that's pretty small for a primary drive. unless of course you have regular access to a storage device like a drive or even your phone.

usb3 is pretty darn fast. functionally you can move quite a bit of data relatively quickly...

then the cloud has gotten better and better - i store all of my photos on dropbox. i take a picture with my phone and it gets uploaded to DB and periodically i delete pics off my phone.

i agree with others - most of us have huge music collections, but they do tend to cap out around (whatever i say here people will argue with so i'm jut going to assume you know your own music needs)

the big decision to me between the small and medium ssd ont he 13" mba is whether or not you're going to run a virtual machine. If the answer to that is yes, then definitely you're going to want the 256 imo.

troy14
Mar 12, 2013, 11:10 PM
New member here, hello all! I searched through a few pages on the forum and haven't found anything, so here goes nothing!

Ok, so I'm making the switch from Windows to Mac this weekend (maybe???? I may wait until the refresh).

If I do end up buying this weekend, how do you owners of MBAs with 128GB SSD balance such a small amount of storage? I have a rather extensive iTunes library and a load of pics and documents. Do you move your entire iTunes library to an external HD to free up that much room? When I'll be portable with the Air, I wouldn't have much use for iTunes.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


I'm surprised no one has asked this question yet - why are you getting a Macbook Air?

You mention the 128gb without saying upgraded - so i'm going to assume you're talking about a base 13 MBA. Do you HAVE to have the "extreme" portability of the Air vs a Pro? Especially for a first Mac? Many (but not all) have more than one Mac if they own an Air. That is not to say that many don't use the Air as their only/primary computer, but I see the air more as a travel machine that is very capable of doing work - but not really made for a "main" computer.

I would look into getting a 13inch Macbook Pro (Depending on the $$ you want to spend - maybe a retina if you want to upgrade the SSD). The 13 MBP is not THAT much heavier/bigger than the Air, is equally/more powerful, has user-upgradeable parts (Ram and HD) and good connectivity as well.

The AIR is a great computer but it sounds like you need SPACE and maybe a little POWER since it is your main/only computer.

maxosx
Mar 12, 2013, 11:13 PM
I offload completed files to my network weekly. Simple.

thehustleman
Mar 12, 2013, 11:22 PM
New member here, hello all! I searched through a few pages on the forum and haven't found anything, so here goes nothing!

Ok, so I'm making the switch from Windows to Mac this weekend (maybe???? I may wait until the refresh).

If I do end up buying this weekend, how do you owners of MBAs with 128GB SSD balance such a small amount of storage? I have a rather extensive iTunes library and a load of pics and documents. Do you move your entire iTunes library to an external HD to free up that much room? When I'll be portable with the Air, I wouldn't have much use for iTunes.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Why is the macbook air instead of the classic macbook pro your choice?

With the macbook air, it's only great but so long, the classic macbook pro has a longer, cheaper, usable life. 4 gigs not enough? Put 8 in, 8 not enough? Put 16. By then there should be 16gb memory modules and you may be able to give it 32gb memory

2IS
Mar 13, 2013, 01:46 AM
My 128GB drive is getting pretty full and I'm constantly deleting things to keep at least a few GB free, but I also have bootcamp on there. Mine is a 2010 model with a Core 2 Duo. I'm anxiously awaiting Haswell before buying a new machine and when I do, I'll certainly be going with a 512GB option. The whole external HDD is too much hassle IMO.

LordDeath
Mar 13, 2013, 07:09 AM
i use one of these.
you can store a few things on their like virtual machines, photos, music or what ever you want to put on their.

http://theniftyminidrive.com
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1342319572/the-nifty-minidrive


basically it allows you to use your memory card slot as expandable storage.
The nice thing is that it sits flush with the case of the mba/p so you can leave it in their and not ever have to worry about it.


Their is also a cheaper option on ebay aswell which does the exact same job

Be careful with this. The MBA wont be able to use deep sleep anymore: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4392

seveej
Mar 13, 2013, 09:42 AM
For some people that will be no problem, for others it's basically impossible. If you could tell us what your current space allocation is, we might be able to help.

RGDS,

MACelmore
Mar 13, 2013, 10:17 AM
I'm surprised no one has asked this question yet - why are you getting a Macbook Air?

You mention the 128gb without saying upgraded - so i'm going to assume you're talking about a base 13 MBA. Do you HAVE to have the "extreme" portability of the Air vs a Pro? Especially for a first Mac? Many (but not all) have more than one Mac if they own an Air. That is not to say that many don't use the Air as their only/primary computer, but I see the air more as a travel machine that is very capable of doing work - but not really made for a "main" computer.

I would look into getting a 13inch Macbook Pro (Depending on the $$ you want to spend - maybe a retina if you want to upgrade the SSD). The 13 MBP is not THAT much heavier/bigger than the Air, is equally/more powerful, has user-upgradeable parts (Ram and HD) and good connectivity as well.

The AIR is a great computer but it sounds like you need SPACE and maybe a little POWER since it is your main/only computer.

I'll be going to grad school this year and moving to Chicago. I'll be mainly taking public transportation from work to school to home. I was looking at the MBA mainly because of its portability and I won't be using much for it. I'm not going to school for anything computer-related, so I'll be using the MBA to write papers, do research for said papers, browsing for fun, and music. Nothing strenuous, so I figured I would save the $300 or so and go with the Air. Maybe I should rethink.

----------

Be careful with this. The MBA wont be able to use deep sleep anymore: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4392

Thanks for this. I'll look into it. Very interesting.

----------

For some people that will be no problem, for others it's basically impossible. If you could tell us what your current space allocation is, we might be able to help.

RGDS,

I'm currently on a Samsung RV711, its HUGE (17 in) and heavy. Which is why I'm so attracted to the Air. My arm hurts carrying this thing now haha. I'm currently using 67 GBs, but its Windows... I have no idea where most of that is being used.

MACelmore
Mar 13, 2013, 04:54 PM
Ok guys, after listening to some of you on here and doing some research (i.e. reading reviews and comparisons), I decided to at least go to the Apple store and test the Pro and the Air out side by side.

And I'm now the proud owner of the Retina Pro!!! Pretty excited about it, it was just the most logical decision, especially with the educational discount.

Thanks for all of your input.

thehustleman
Mar 13, 2013, 05:27 PM
Ok guys, after listening to some of you on here and doing some research (i.e. reading reviews and comparisons), I decided to at least go to the Apple store and test the Pro and the Air out side by side.

And I'm now the proud owner of the Retina Pro!!! Pretty excited about it, it was just the most logical decision, especially with the educational discount.

Thanks for all of your input.

Congrats, i hope you maxed out the memory because the retina Pros have it soldered in so it's impossible to upgrade it.

PDXPean
Mar 13, 2013, 05:33 PM
2 TB Time Capsule.

vix2000
Mar 13, 2013, 06:34 PM
2 TB Time Capsule.

I've been looking at these, as I asked earlier are these worth the big price difference to something like a seagate or western digital nas?

MACelmore
Mar 13, 2013, 06:58 PM
I've been looking at these, as I asked earlier are these worth the big price difference to something like a seagate or western digital nas?

I'm also wondering this!

And as a secondary question, why is it so important to backup your Mac? That seems to be a primary focus of alot of Mac users. Are Macs more prone to losing your info or am I just hyper-focused about this switch so I didn't heed the warnings when I had a PC?

troy14
Mar 13, 2013, 10:10 PM
I'm also wondering this!

And as a secondary question, why is it so important to backup your Mac? That seems to be a primary focus of alot of Mac users. Are Macs more prone to losing your info or am I just hyper-focused about this switch so I didn't heed the warnings when I had a PC?

Backing up your data is (usually) important no matter what OS you're using.

If you have important (family photos, vacations, thesis, research, etc) files on your laptop (especially a laptop!) and you lose it.. you are out of luck! Hard drives (well you do have a SSD now) fail, computers get lost, stolen, liquid spilled on them, dropped, anything can happen. Computers/hard drives/etc are replaceable but those files/memorys etc are not!

A time capsule is only worth it if you're willing to pay for it. You are paying the Apple premium for a product that works, works well, and is just plug it in and forget about it (theoretically). You can get other things that do the same for cheaper.

I know the retina MBP is an awesome machine, beautiful display, but, it seems like it didn't really solve your problem with the storage. It still only has the same 128gb SSD that the Air had.....unless you plan on leaving somethign plugged into it for storage? You could've gotten the Air and saved some $$ unless you HAD to have the screen (which is understandable)

MacLadybug
Mar 13, 2013, 10:54 PM
Years ago when I was in the PC world, I was in the process of organizing all of my photos from a trip to the UK. The plan was to organize and then back up. I was hurried, not thinking, copied everything to the PC, cleaned off my SD cards for use and before I could back up to an online photo site I planned on burning DVD's of the photos (I said this was years ago)... Long story longer the drive malfunctioned and every photo I had was lost. I took the computer to a recovery technician, nothing was salvaged. Shortly thereafter I entered the world of Apple.

Lesson learned... back-up everything always. I use the cloud for IOS data and my trusty Time Capsule for everything on all my macs. If one mac dies the stuff is on another mac or Time Capsule. I'll never let that happen again.

raniel
Mar 14, 2013, 12:30 AM
Buy a NAS, store the media files / large files there (music, photos, etc). Then use a cloud service for the files you might need on time.

Seamaster
Mar 14, 2013, 04:46 AM
Time Capsule is great for backup and wifi networking, but it's a lousy external storage solution.

MACelmore
Mar 14, 2013, 11:58 AM
Backing up your data is (usually) important no matter what OS you're using.

If you have important (family photos, vacations, thesis, research, etc) files on your laptop (especially a laptop!) and you lose it.. you are out of luck! Hard drives (well you do have a SSD now) fail, computers get lost, stolen, liquid spilled on them, dropped, anything can happen. Computers/hard drives/etc are replaceable but those files/memorys etc are not!

A time capsule is only worth it if you're willing to pay for it. You are paying the Apple premium for a product that works, works well, and is just plug it in and forget about it (theoretically). You can get other things that do the same for cheaper.

I know the retina MBP is an awesome machine, beautiful display, but, it seems like it didn't really solve your problem with the storage. It still only has the same 128gb SSD that the Air had.....unless you plan on leaving somethign plugged into it for storage? You could've gotten the Air and saved some $$ unless you HAD to have the screen (which is understandable)

I decided to go with the MiniDrive that plugs into the SD slot. I went with the MBPr because with the educational discount the difference was so small, I couldn't justify NOT getting it. Plus, I could buy now and not fret over the upcoming Air update :D

stchman
Mar 14, 2013, 03:39 PM
OWC makes an SSD that goes right into the MBAs. They have them for 2010,11,12 models. You can get either a 240GB or 480GB SSD.

vix2000
Mar 14, 2013, 07:04 PM
OWC makes an SSD that goes right into the MBAs. They have them for 2010,11,12 models. You can get either a 240GB or 480GB SSD.

Really? are they expensive? I would be interested in these!!!

troy14
Mar 14, 2013, 07:24 PM
Really? are they expensive? I would be interested in these!!!

Yes, very expensive.

$300 for 240gb, 480gb for $550

stchman
Mar 16, 2013, 12:34 PM
Yes, very expensive.

$300 for 240gb, 480gb for $550

The OP could then turn around and sell the stock 128GB SSD.