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MacRumors
Mar 13, 2013, 12:38 PM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/03/andy_rubin_headshot-250x250.jpgGoogle CEO Larry Page today announced (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/update-from-ceo.html) that Andy Rubin is stepping down as head of the company's Android division, turning over the reins to Sundar Pichai, who has led Google's Chrome and Apps efforts.Sergey and I first heard about Android back in 2004, when Andy Rubin came to visit us at Google. He believed that aligning standards around an open-source operating system would drive innovation across the mobile industry. Most people thought he was nuts. But his insight immediately struck a chord because at the time it was extremely painful developing services for mobile devices.Rubin will remain with Google, heading up unspecified new products.

Rubin, who spent several years at Apple as an engineer, co-founded Android in 2003 and remained at the head of those efforts following Google's acquisition of Android in August 2005. Apple has claimed (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/02/apple-claims-key-android-framework-inspired-by-andy-rubins-work-at-apple/) that a key Android framework was inspired by his work at Apple, although the company has refrained from pressing that issue in court as it has focused its legal battles on manufacturers of Android-based handsets rather Android itself.

In his post, Page also shares some new Android statistics, revealing that over 750 million Android devices have been activated worldwide and that over 25 billion apps have been downloaded from the Google Play marketplace.

Article Link: Andy Rubin Steps Down as Head of Android, Takes on New Role at Google (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/13/andy-rubin-steps-down-as-head-of-android-takes-on-new-role-at-google/)



Wormwolf
Mar 13, 2013, 12:43 PM
There is some justice in the universe after all.

Xenomorph
Mar 13, 2013, 12:44 PM
I hope he had something else lined up.

Why would you "create" some amazing new platform that could change the world - and then just quit?

He had something better to do? Really??

markieg
Mar 13, 2013, 12:46 PM
lol he even copies job's looks

DarkWinter
Mar 13, 2013, 12:46 PM
"I don’t believe that your phone should be an assistant. Your phone is a tool for communicating. You shouldn’t be communicating with the phone; you should be communicating with somebody on the other side of the phone."

:rolleyes:

Tankmaze
Mar 13, 2013, 12:52 PM
Maybe he is going "Forstall" on Page. :D

dysamoria
Mar 13, 2013, 12:55 PM
Relevance to "Mac rumor mill": Zero.

I wonder if this was the behind-the-scenes conversation: "Well we're still second fiddle. Who can we blame? How about the guy who made android for our acquisition? Yeah, how about you step down and let someone else give it a try, Andy. Because we're surely not going to blame the product or its horribly inconsistent application among all our licensees. (Because that's our business model)".

Shrink
Mar 13, 2013, 12:58 PM
lol he even copies job's looks

There's a lawsuit in there somewhere.

Two eye, a nose, a mouth...just like Jobs!:eek:

:D

rickroberts
Mar 13, 2013, 01:02 PM
This man is repugnant.

Yelmurc
Mar 13, 2013, 01:06 PM
Did Google just copy Apple's Forstall ouster?

jm001
Mar 13, 2013, 01:17 PM
There's a lawsuit in there somewhere.

Two eye, a nose, a mouth...just like Jobs!:eek:

:D

Don't forget glasses!

SILen(e
Mar 13, 2013, 01:23 PM
Relevance to "Mac rumor mill": Zero.

I wonder if this was the behind-the-scenes conversation: "Well we're still second fiddle. Who can we blame? How about the guy who made android for our acquisition? Yeah, how about you step down and let someone else give it a try, Andy. Because we're surely not going to blame the product or its horribly inconsistent application among all our licensees. (Because that's our business model)".

No, it is kinda relevant.

On September 12th of 2012, Android reached 500 million activations and had 1.3 million activated devices per day.
In June of last year, they had about 0.9 million activated devives per day.

We are now at a point in time 182 days after Google posted the last activation numbers (the 500 million and 1.3 mio per day).

In that time they got about 250 mio new activations (if they were closer to 800 million, Rubin would probably have said "close to 800 million activations", but he didn't).

So in that time, they had only 1.37 million activations per day. (Taking 250 million new devices since last September as a basis for this calculation)

If you remember, they went from 900k per day in June to 1300k per day in September of last year, but in the last 6 months, they only managed to increase their daily activations by 0.07 million?

The growth seems to be slowing.

Mac-Mariachi
Mar 13, 2013, 01:33 PM
"...when Andy Rubin came to visit us at Google. He believed that aligning standards around an open-source operating system would drive innovation across the mobile industry."

More like, "Hey, I´m working on some cool frameworks for Apple´s new mobile OS. I can give them to you if I run the Android division."

Cuban Missles
Mar 13, 2013, 01:33 PM
No, it is kinda relevant.

On September 12th of 2012, Android reached 500 million activations and had 1.3 million activated devices per day.
In June of last year, they had about 0.9 million activated devives per day.

We are now at a point in time 182 days after Google posted the last activation numbers (the 500 million and 1.3 mio per day).

In that time they got about 250 mio new activations (if they were closer to 800 million, Rubin would probably have said "close to 800 million activations", but he didn't).

So in that time, they had only 1.37 million activations per day. (Taking 250 million new devices since last September as a basis for this calculation)

If you remember, they went from 900k per day in June to 1300k per day in September of last year, but in the last 6 months, they only managed to increase their daily activations by 0.07 million?

The growth seems to be slowing.

Lot's of good stats. Do we know how this compares to apple? That would be interesting to see how the .07 mil growth compares to apple.

Ryth
Mar 13, 2013, 01:36 PM
No, it is kinda relevant.

On September 12th of 2012, Android reached 500 million activations and had 1.3 million activated devices per day.
In June of last year, they had about 0.9 million activated devives per day.

We are now at a point in time 182 days after Google posted the last activation numbers (the 500 million and 1.3 mio per day).

In that time they got about 250 mio new activations (if they were closer to 800 million, Rubin would probably have said "close to 800 million activations", but he didn't).

So in that time, they had only 1.37 million activations per day. (Taking 250 million new devices since last September as a basis for this calculation)

If you remember, they went from 900k per day in June to 1300k per day in September of last year, but in the last 6 months, they only managed to increase their daily activations by 0.07 million?

The growth seems to be slowing.

Android has the most to lose in growth because they are already pretty much maxed. They have the low end market and if people want the mid/high they are probably already using one.

Plus their #s and activations were always suspect. Android covers so many models...even the ancient versions they still have on the lowest end models count as 'Android activation'...

UnfetteredMind
Mar 13, 2013, 01:44 PM
Don't forget glasses!

And receding hairline!

Oletros
Mar 13, 2013, 01:50 PM
"...when Andy Rubin came to visit us at Google. He believed that aligning standards around an open-source operating system would drive innovation across the mobile industry."

More like, "Hey, I´m working on some cool frameworks for Apple´s new mobile OS. I can give them to you if I run the Android division."

I like when people clearly shows that don't know what they are talking about

samcraig
Mar 13, 2013, 02:02 PM
Interesting events. I wonder if this is a signal flare that ChromeOS and Android will be "merging" so to speak.

Oletros
Mar 13, 2013, 02:04 PM
Plus their #s and activations were always suspect. Android covers so many models...even the ancient versions they still have on the lowest end models count as 'Android activation'...

Why they are suspect?

John.B
Mar 13, 2013, 02:05 PM
Rubin will remain with Google, heading up unspecified new products.

Ah, yes, the dreaded "Special Projects" assignment. I wonder if it comes with a red stapler?

SILen(e
Mar 13, 2013, 02:16 PM
Lot's of good stats. Do we know how this compares to apple? That would be interesting to see how the .07 mil growth compares to apple.

Well, the last numbers we know cite 47.8 mio iPhones, 22.9 iPads and usually iPod Touch are half of the iPod sales (probably more in the holiday quarter, but lets use the lower number), a bit more than 6 million, for a combined number of 124 mio iOS devices sold in the 91 days of the last quarter.

Thats 1.36 mio devices sold per day.

But those numbers are from a holiday quarter and January to March should have been lower.
Just taking the numbers from LAST YEARS January - March quarter (actually, two thirds of it, because March is not yet over and calculating "daily" numbers would be too crazy to do^^), Apple should have sold 23.3 mio iPhones in the timeframe from the end of their last released quarterly results until March 1, 7.8 mio iPads (but remember, last years numbers contained the release of a new iPad BUT - iPad numbers are also increasing every year by a large margin) and close to 4 million iPod Touch, for 35 mio new iOS devices sold since the period mentioned in the last quarterly results. Remember, these are LAST YEARS NUMBERS!!!

So while Android activated more than 250 mio devices (but probably less than 290), Apple sold at least 159 mio devices in that timeframe (actually a bit more, because the devices Apple sold from September 12th to the begin of their holiday quarter are not considered, including the 5 million iPhone 5 and probably some of the older devices.

Lets just say Apple sold at least 165 million iOS devices in the same timeframe that Android activated 250-290 mio devices.

That would be 970k sold iOS devices per day (September 12th 2012 to March 1st)

If you consider that the cheapest of these iOS devices costs 199$ (iPod Touch - which is also the device with the fewest sales) and the ASP of the iPhone is usually higher than the base model of the newest generation (in this case the iPhone 5), while probably a large number of Android devices are in the 100-300$ (WITHOUT contract) range, you can see how Apple is having a quite profitable business in iOS^^

Android has the most to lose in growth because they are already pretty much maxed. They have the low end market and if people want the mid/high they are probably already using one.

Plus their #s and activations were always suspect. Android covers so many models...even the ancient versions they still have on the lowest end models count as 'Android activation'...

If they activated 250 mio new devices: 1.37 mio devices per day
If they activated 260 mio new devices: 1.42 mio devices per day
If they activated 270 mio new devices: 1.48 mio devices per day
If they activated 280 mio new devices: 1.53 mio devices per day
If they activated 290 mio new devices: 1.58 mio devices per day - but in that case, Rubin would have said "We have activated close to 800 mio Android devices worldwide.

SockRolid
Mar 13, 2013, 02:22 PM
make uninstall; rm -rf ~/Android

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Maybe he is going "Forstall" on Page. :D

LOL. How's this for a nightmare management team: Rubin / Forstall / Sinofsky.

Their company would develop a Google Glass ripoff, running Windows 8 with "no compromises," and it would ship on time even if it wasn't finished.

madsci954
Mar 13, 2013, 02:42 PM
LOL. How's this for a nightmare management team: Rubin / Forstall / Sinofsky.

Their company would develop a Google Glass ripoff, running Windows 8 with "no compromises," and it would ship on time even if it wasn't finished.

And with that, Fox has a new sitcom for the Fall.

Glideslope
Mar 13, 2013, 03:03 PM
Andy Rubin. AKA, corrupt, thieving, lying, stool Pidgin.

Thermonuclear Andy, Thermonuclear. :apple:

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make uninstall; rm -rf ~/Android

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LOL. How's this for a nightmare management team: Rubin / Forstall / Sinofsky.

Their company would develop a Google Glass ripoff, running Windows 8 with "no compromises," and it would ship on time even if it wasn't finished.

Nice. ;)

Oletros
Mar 13, 2013, 03:05 PM
Andy Rubin. AKA, corrupt, thieving, lying, stool Pidgin.

And I like when people says more about themselves that they say about the people they trying to slander

roxxette
Mar 13, 2013, 03:15 PM
Andy Rubin. AKA, corrupt, thieving, lying, stool Pidgin.

Thermonuclear Andy, Thermonuclear. :apple:

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Nice. ;)

Stop making a fool of yourself :(

OLDCODGER
Mar 13, 2013, 05:24 PM
Question for the know-it-alls out there :),

If I buy an unlocked Samsung phone, install my own sim card, and do not sign up to Google, is it "activated" in Google's eyes?

Oletros
Mar 13, 2013, 05:53 PM
Question for the know-it-alls out there :),

If I buy an unlocked Samsung phone, install my own sim card, and do not sign up to Google, is it "activated" in Google's eyes?

No

0dev
Mar 13, 2013, 05:59 PM
So many people hating on Andy. What did he do, sleep with your wives? :rolleyes:

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Question for the know-it-alls out there :),

If I buy an unlocked Samsung phone, install my own sim card, and do not sign up to Google, is it "activated" in Google's eyes?

If you set up any Android phone which comes with Google apps (as Samsungs of course do) then as far as I know that counts. It only doesn't count if it's an Android device without Google apps, such as the Kindle Fire.

Oletros
Mar 13, 2013, 06:00 PM
So many people hating on Andy. What did he do, sleep with your wives? :rolleyes:

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If you set up any Android phone which comes with Google apps (as Samsungs of course do) then as far as I know that counts. It only doesn't count if it's an Android device without Google apps, such as the Kindle Fire.

If you don't setup a google account it doesn't call home

0dev
Mar 13, 2013, 06:05 PM
If you don't setup a google account it doesn't call home

That information comes from an unverified source who claims to be inside Google so there's no way of knowing whether or not that's true. Google hasn't released any official statement to this effect.

qevlhma
Mar 13, 2013, 06:05 PM
I have worked with him before. He is a horrible horrible person.

Oletros
Mar 13, 2013, 06:08 PM
I have worked with him before. He is a horrible horrible person.

And he kills puppies :rolleyes:

OLDCODGER
Mar 13, 2013, 06:09 PM
If you don't setup a google account it doesn't call home

Thank you for the reply.

There are four Samsung phones in the house, with none of them signed on to Google. I wonder how many such "non-activated" Android phones are out in the wild.

iPhones, on the other hand, are rather pointless without activation.

a0me
Mar 13, 2013, 07:04 PM
In his post, Page also shares some new Android statistics, revealing that over 750 million Android devices have been activated worldwide and that over 25 billion apps have been downloaded from the Google Play marketplace.
It would be interesting to compare these numbers (average of 30 apps per device) with the 40+ billion apps downloaded from the App Store on about 400 million iOS devices.

Rogifan
Mar 13, 2013, 07:34 PM
The tech media is already a buzz with feature stories on how this means Android and Chrome are merging and what kind of threat that will be to Microsoft. Doesn't take them long to read into things and start spinning stuff..

thekev
Mar 13, 2013, 07:36 PM
The tech media is already a buzz with feature stories on how this means Android and Chrome are merging and what kind of threat that will be to Microsoft. Doesn't take them long to read into things and start spinning stuff..

That is because simply delivering information doesn't yield the highest number of page hits:D.

gatearray
Mar 13, 2013, 09:19 PM
lol he even copies job's looks

Ever seen him speak? Steve Jobs, he ain't. A bumbling doofus? Getting warmer... :)

FakeWozniak
Mar 14, 2013, 12:39 AM
I wonder if we will be seeing Mr. Rubin at a new startup soon. He must be itching to move on now that Android has been around a while. I'm going to predict he leaves Google within 1 year from now.

6264374
Mar 14, 2013, 01:23 AM
this may become one reason for increase of sales in India though..

newagemac
Mar 14, 2013, 05:22 AM
No, it is kinda relevant.

On September 12th of 2012, Android reached 500 million activations and had 1.3 million activated devices per day.
In June of last year, they had about 0.9 million activated devives per day.

We are now at a point in time 182 days after Google posted the last activation numbers (the 500 million and 1.3 mio per day).

In that time they got about 250 mio new activations (if they were closer to 800 million, Rubin would probably have said "close to 800 million activations", but he didn't).

So in that time, they had only 1.37 million activations per day. (Taking 250 million new devices since last September as a basis for this calculation)

If you remember, they went from 900k per day in June to 1300k per day in September of last year, but in the last 6 months, they only managed to increase their daily activations by 0.07 million?

The growth seems to be slowing.

Here in the U.S., the growth ain't just slowing, it's dead and in reverse.

celo48
Mar 14, 2013, 09:20 AM
I wonder if he named Android after his name :)

Squilly
Mar 14, 2013, 09:25 AM
This is ridiculous. Thought the big guys (Apple and Google) created their software. Turns out they just bought it. -_-
ie. Siri and Android.

John.B
Mar 14, 2013, 10:50 AM
Is this what caused him step down? Google evicts ad-blocking software from Google Play store (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/03/google-evicts-ad-blocking-software-from-google-play-store/) (Ars Technica)

Page announces Rubin is leaving the Android team (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/update-from-ceo.html) on Tuesday morning, and by midnight all of the ad blockers are booted from the Google Play Android store.

I wonder if that means Chrome will follow suit?

mdelvecchio
Mar 14, 2013, 11:18 AM
Why they are suspect?

because so many of them are generic phones in countries where they arent even used as smartphones....android variants have become the new feature phone for people who dont care about their phone. thats why iOS has so many more content purchases, app purchases, web useage stats, etc..

Oletros
Mar 14, 2013, 11:47 AM
because so many of them are generic phones in countries where they arent even used as smartphones....android variants have become the new feature phone for people who dont care about their phone. thats why iOS has so many more content purchases, app purchases, web useage stats, etc..

And? If a smartphone is sold with Google Apps and activated through Play Store why it is a suspect activation?

dysamoria
Mar 14, 2013, 11:54 AM
this may become one reason for increase of sales in India though..

WTF does that even mean?

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Is this what caused him step down? Google evicts ad-blocking software from Google Play store (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/03/google-evicts-ad-blocking-software-from-google-play-store/) (Ars Technica)


That's because the concept of users having control over what they see and experience is in direct conflict with the core business of google: advertising.

Google is not your friend. Never was. It just managed to do a great job of selling its image to us prior to becoming really obnoxious. Even its basic "service" to users sucks now. Next stop: evil being.

0dev
Mar 14, 2013, 02:56 PM
That's because the concept of users having control over what they see and experience is in direct conflict with the core business of google: advertising.

Google is not your friend. Never was. It just managed to do a great job of selling its image to us prior to becoming really obnoxious. Even its basic "service" to users sucks now. Next stop: evil being.

What you're forgetting is that, unlike iOS, Android lets you sideload apps outside of the Play Store even without rooting. You can already get those kicked out ad blockers on Android regardless of what Google has done by just changing one setting and downloading the APK from the browser.

While Google were *******s for doing this, the fact remains it's not the end of world scenario it is when Apple removes apps it dislikes from the App Store. Plus Google do this kind of thing a lot less often.

50548
Mar 14, 2013, 03:06 PM
This man is repugnant.

Exactly. All hail the copycat!

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And I like when people says more about themselves that they say about the people they trying to slander

If you like remorseless Mr Copycat Rubin that much, adopt him.

Glideslope
Mar 14, 2013, 03:17 PM
stop making a fool of yourself :(

lol. Ok. ;)

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And I like when people says more about themselves that they say about the people they trying to slander

Ok. Live in your Dream World. It's easier. ;)

6264374
Mar 16, 2013, 08:20 AM
WTF does that even mean?

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the new head is an Indian and i have already started hearing from my Indian friends how proud they are about it and that should give free marketing to Android over there which is already booming with Samsung.

aerok
Mar 16, 2013, 09:31 AM
lol. Ok. ;)

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Ok. Live in your Dream World. It's easier. ;)

As far as I know, Oletros is not the one living inside a dream world...

AaronEdwards
Mar 16, 2013, 11:00 AM
WTF does that even mean?

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That's because the concept of users having control over what they see and experience is in direct conflict with the core business of google: advertising.

Google is not your friend. Never was. It just managed to do a great job of selling its image to us prior to becoming really obnoxious. Even its basic "service" to users sucks now. Next stop: evil being.

Google has banned them from their own store. You do know that Android allows you to install apps from other sources than the Google Play? That you're also actually able to transfer the apk file to an Android device as a normal file and install it that way?

This isn't iOS, where, if an app is getting banned from the App Store, you would have to jailbreak your device to be able to install that app.