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aelias80
Mar 14, 2013, 12:16 AM
Hello there,

So assuming I only want to spend an extra $100 on ONE upgrade, should I go for additional memory (8 Gb) or get the 2.0Ghz i7

Not really a heavy user here, watch youtube videos, movies, browse the internet, edit docs & presentations, maybe a VM with Windows and one day, I may use iMovie...

Thoughts? Pros & Cons of one or the other? Anyone faced similar choice?

Cheers!



justperry
Mar 14, 2013, 12:19 AM
RAM.

I just bought a Mini a couple of weeks ago with a free 8 GB RAM upgrade, and I hit that regular, especially if you use a VM, Safari is also consuming lots of RAM.
The i5 I have in there is enough for the things I use it for, similar to yours.

raniel
Mar 14, 2013, 12:26 AM
RAM. you wont notice a slight bump on processor speed

stchman
Mar 14, 2013, 03:52 PM
Is this an 11" or a 13"? If it's a 13", then going with the i7 you have to get a 256G SSD. The 11" is not the case.

I would definitely go with the RAM.

I went with all 3 upgrades, RAM, processor, and SSD. You can probably hold off on the SSD as OWC makes an SSD upgrade for the MBAs.

Miat
Mar 15, 2013, 05:38 AM
RAM is the hands down winner there.

stchman
Mar 15, 2013, 02:25 PM
RAM is the hands down winner there.

Agreed, but I would still do the i7 upgrade as well, it's only $100 more. If you're willing to spend $1200, then you're willing to spend $1300.

617aircav
Mar 15, 2013, 05:50 PM
Agreed, but I would still do the i7 upgrade as well, it's only $100 more. If you're willing to spend $1200, then you're willing to spend $1300.

For watching YouTube it wouldnt be worth it.

Miat
Mar 15, 2013, 09:23 PM
Agreed, but I would still do the i7 upgrade as well, it's only $100 more.

OP's scenario was if they could only choose one, not both.

Not everybody has the extra $100.

stchman
Mar 16, 2013, 12:37 PM
OP's scenario was if they could only choose one, not both.

Not everybody has the extra $100.

No offense, but Macs are not built for the budget concious consumer. I think Macs are good machines, but defeintely overpriced.

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For watching YouTube it wouldnt be worth it.

Just remember, when you get it, you can't upgrade it (processor).

Miat
Mar 16, 2013, 08:07 PM
stchman

No offence but you are missing the point. The OP said only one or the other, not both.

Given that, then what is the problem with the answers recommending the RAM over the CPU?

I also don't accept your assertion that Mac buyers are not budget conscious, I certainly have to be. Not all Apple customers have money to spare.

Nor do I accept that it is only $100 difference. It is if you buy from Apple. But if you buy from a third party vendor at a discount (which a lot of people do), then you usually don't have the BTO options. I saved the equivalent of the full cost of AppleCare by buying a 4GB Air from a third party vendor, instead of the 8GB BTO version from Apple. I'd prefer 8GB, but given my pattern of computer use then 4GB is quite workable for me.

The cost of AppleCare is not a trivial saving. I would not have been able to afford it if I had gone for the 8GB version.

blesscheese
Mar 16, 2013, 09:51 PM
I would definitely go with the RAM (you can't upgrade later), and skip the i7 (it ain't a quad core, and has heat build-up issues).

The i5 is plenty of chip for all but professional work...the type that people use towers and servers for.

stchman
Mar 17, 2013, 11:05 PM
stchman

No offence but you are missing the point. The OP said only one or the other, not both.

Given that, then what is the problem with the answers recommending the RAM over the CPU?

I also don't accept your assertion that Mac buyers are not budget conscious, I certainly have to be. Not all Apple customers have money to spare.

Nor do I accept that it is only $100 difference. It is if you buy from Apple. But if you buy from a third party vendor at a discount (which a lot of people do), then you usually don't have the BTO options. I saved the equivalent of the full cost of AppleCare by buying a 4GB Air from a third party vendor, instead of the 8GB BTO version from Apple. I'd prefer 8GB, but given my pattern of computer use then 4GB is quite workable for me.

The cost of AppleCare is not a trivial saving. I would not have been able to afford it if I had gone for the 8GB version.

The difference between 4GB and 8GB RAM on a MBA is $100, look it up. There is no way to upgrade the RAM as it is soldered to the board, same with the processor.

My argument is that if the OP can afford $1200 for a thin laptop, $1300 is not a huge stretch, 8.3% price increase.

AppleCare is NOT a savings, it is an extended warranty.

I own a Mac, I'm just being honest. I think it is a good machine, but they are very pricey. There is pretty much nothing that my Mac can do that a laptop that is 1/2 the price cannot.

Just remember Macs are luxuries. I'm keeping it real.

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I would definitely go with the RAM (you can't upgrade later), and skip the i7 (it ain't a quad core, and has heat build-up issues).

The i5 is plenty of chip for all but professional work...the type that people use towers and servers for.

No the i7 does not have heat build up issues. My MBA I've owned now since October and it has never over heated. Whoever tells people that is spreading false information.

The i7 and i5 on teh MBA have the same max power dissapation, 17W.

buysp
Mar 17, 2013, 11:33 PM
You can have both! Buy a refurb i7 with 8GB RAM.

Miat
Mar 18, 2013, 12:09 AM
The difference between 4GB and 8GB RAM on a MBA is $100, look it up.

If you buy them direct from Apple, that is true.

But third party vendors often have sales giving around 10% off the Apple price. That is how I got my Air. Cost me $1500, instead of the $1680 Apple charged.

However, usually the third party vendors only have the base models, not the BTO versions.

If I had got the otherwise identical 8GB BTO version I could only have got it from Apple, and their price for that was nearly $300 more than I paid at the third party vendor for the 4GB version. That is an extra $300 just for an extra 4GB RAM.

And that $300 difference is where the savings came from that enabled me to also buy AppleCare for my Air.

I could not have afforded both the 8 GB BTO from Apple, AND AppleCare. It is the difference between a total cost of approx $1800 (4GB), and $2100 (8GB).

I did not need 8GB (though I would like it), and getting AppleCare was more important than the extra RAM.

You see my point now?

Don't know what kind of circles you move in, but in my world $300 is not a trivial difference.

There is no way to upgrade the RAM as it is soldered to the board, same with the processor.

Yes, I know that.

AppleCare is NOT a savings, it is an extended warranty.

Yes, I know that. See above answer.

stchman
Mar 18, 2013, 12:20 AM
If you buy them direct from Apple, that is true.

But third party vendors often have sales giving around 10% off the Apple price. That is how I got my Air. Cost me $1500, instead of the $1680 Apple charged.

However, usually the third party vendors only have the base models, not the BTO versions.

If I had got the otherwise identical 8GB BTO version I could only have got it from Apple, and their price for that was nearly $300 more than I paid at the third party vendor for the 4GB version. That is an extra $300 just for an extra 4GB RAM.

And that $300 difference is where the savings came from that enabled me to also buy AppleCare for my Air.

I could not have afforded both the 8 GB BTO from Apple, AND AppleCare. It is the difference between a total cost of approx $1800 (4GB), and $2100 (8GB).

I did not need 8GB (though I would like it), and getting AppleCare was more important than the extra RAM.

You see my point now?

Don't know what kind of circles you move in, but in my world $300 is not a trivial difference.



Yes, I know that.



Yes, I know that. See above answer.

My argument is that the if you can afford $1200, you can afford $1300. People that are on a strict budget are not looking to spend over $1000 on a laptop.

DisplacedMic
Mar 18, 2013, 02:43 AM
My argument is that the if you can afford $1200, you can afford $1300. People that are on a strict budget are not looking to spend over $1000 on a laptop.

you don't know his situation. i use macs for work and i am put on a budget. if my boss says 1k is allocated for the computer, then 1k is allocated for the computer. it wouldn't matter if i could tripple the ram and processor speed for $1001.

also i think that "if you can afford X then you can afford x+y" attitude is a dangerous one to have from a financial planning standpoint.

Maybe he values a computer at 1200 but not at 1300 - everybody has a price point.

i don't think it is unreasonable to point out the specifics of this particular machine. i for one would agree that you should seriously consider a full upgrade just on the grounds that it's going to be difficult if not impossible to upgrade the machine later but at the same time, i think it's important to have a budget. if he says his budget is 1200 then i don't think we should be encouraging him to pay 1300, luxury item or not.

regarding your second statement:

"People that are on a strict budget are not looking to spend over $1000 on a laptop"

i disagree with that 100%

stchman
Mar 18, 2013, 04:02 AM
you don't know his situation. i use macs for work and i am put on a budget. if my boss says 1k is allocated for the computer, then 1k is allocated for the computer. it wouldn't matter if i could tripple the ram and processor speed for $1001.

also i think that "if you can afford X then you can afford x+y" attitude is a dangerous one to have from a financial planning standpoint.

Maybe he values a computer at 1200 but not at 1300 - everybody has a price point.

i don't think it is unreasonable to point out the specifics of this particular machine. i for one would agree that you should seriously consider a full upgrade just on the grounds that it's going to be difficult if not impossible to upgrade the machine later but at the same time, i think it's important to have a budget. if he says his budget is 1200 then i don't think we should be encouraging him to pay 1300, luxury item or not.

regarding your second statement:

"People that are on a strict budget are not looking to spend over $1000 on a laptop"

i disagree with that 100%

As I said, Macs are good machines, it is just that not everyone can afford one. It's like a Cadillac and a Chevrolet, will both work? Yes. Is one more expensive than the other? Yes. Does the more expensive one get you from point A to point B better? No.

IMO, Macs are more luxury oriented than your garden variety Windows laptop.

I can afford a Mac, some people cannot.

designs216
Mar 18, 2013, 04:38 AM
Get the memory. You'll not notice the minor bump in processor speed.

DisplacedMic
Mar 18, 2013, 05:55 AM
As I said, Macs are good machines, it is just that not everyone can afford one. It's like a Cadillac and a Chevrolet, will both work? Yes. Is one more expensive than the other? Yes. Does the more expensive one get you from point A to point B better? No.

IMO, Macs are more luxury oriented than your garden variety Windows laptop.

I can afford a Mac, some people cannot.

we all understand what you are saying. you are definitely missing the point.

regarding macs being "overpriced," that is a 100% subjective term. If someone is willing to pay X for Y then Y is worth precisely X. The op is willing to pay for 1 upgrade. anything more than that is "overpriced" in the sense that it is outside his budget, price point or value

I also disagree with you regarding the Cady/Chevy comparison. Yes, both will get you from point A to point B - but i think most people would agree that the Caddy gets you there "better"

Same goes for a Mac. Anything you can do on a Mac you can do on Windows...but the Mac does it better.


For what it's worth, OP - if i were only going to pick 1 upgrade between cpu and ram, i think the RAM is definitely the way to go in this case.

Boyd01
Mar 18, 2013, 07:06 AM
Given the kind of usage you describe, if money is an issue then I wouldn't bother with either upgrade. I have a 2011 13" MBA with 4GB and i5 and it works fine for much heavier use than you're planning.

If you want to spend a little more money, I think you will get the most use out of a larger SSD.

stchman
Mar 18, 2013, 01:20 PM
also i think that "if you can afford X then you can afford x+y" attitude is a dangerous one to have from a financial planning standpoint.



This is an amusing thread, cost conscious and Apple laptops don't go in the same sentence.

DisplacedMic
Mar 18, 2013, 05:03 PM
This is an amusing thread, cost conscious and Apple laptops don't go in the same sentence.

maybe not to you...but that's subjective. i for one think that's nonsense.

you can be poor, middle-class or wealthy and still be "cost conscious" and adhere to a strict budget. people don't often get rich writing cheques.

you can certainly get a cheaper computer than a mac as Apple doesn't really make low-end computers, but in my opinion the days of Apple selling machines with terrible quality-to-price ratios went out with the arrival of intel-generation of macs.

But honestly - saying "if you can afford $1200, you can afford $1300" is terrible advice.

stchman
Mar 18, 2013, 05:19 PM
maybe not to you...but that's subjective. i for one think that's nonsense.

you can be poor, middle-class or wealthy and still be "cost conscious" and adhere to a strict budget. people don't often get rich writing cheques.

you can certainly get a cheaper computer than a mac as Apple doesn't really make low-end computers, but in my opinion the days of Apple selling machines with terrible quality-to-price ratios went out with the arrival of intel-generation of macs.

But honestly - saying "if you can afford $1200, you can afford $1300" is terrible advice.

No it is not terrible advice. That is your opinion. I hate it when people say "I should have spent the extra <$$$> on that upgrade". Spending an extra 8.3% is not lunacy.

I think Apple laptops are some of the best made, I also think Apple laptops are the most pricey. I know because I OWN one.

TC25
Mar 18, 2013, 05:28 PM
As I said, Macs are good machines, it is just that not everyone can afford a new one. It's like a Cadillac and a Chevrolet, will both work? Yes. Is one more expensive than the other? Yes. Does the more expensive one get you from point A to point B better? Define 'better'. No. Depends on how you define 'better'.

IMO, Macs are more luxury oriented than your garden variety Windows laptop. Luxury? No need for AV software. No need to install almost weekly patches. Yeah, quite the 'luxury'.

I can afford a Mac, some people cannot. I'd buy a used Mac before I'd buy a new Windows PC, just as I'd buy a used Acura, Lexus or Infiniti before I'd buy a new Chevy.


Quite the amusing, and simplistic and shallow analysis.

stchman
Mar 18, 2013, 05:51 PM
Quite the amusing, and simplistic and shallow analysis.

I looked at a "used" MBA last year when I bought my 2012 MBA. Problem was that pretty much everybody wanted new prices for a used MBA, ridiculous.

The overwhelming majority of people use their computers for the following:
Surf the net
Check email
Do some light office tasks
Listen to music

How does a Mac do this "better"? It does not, and the whole "experience" drivel is just that. I've been using OS X for about 9 months now and don't see what it does that is so much better than either Windows or Linux.

With all this being said, I do feel that a Mac laptop is better built and has a better trackpad. Is it worth the extra $900 I spent, probably not, but I can afford it.

Last time I checked, Apple updates OS X on a regular basis, so yes there are patches that need to be applied to OS X.

As a matter of fact, the latest OS X 10.8.3 has compatibility issues with Logitech Unifying receivers. So much for everything "just works".

If there is no need for AV, why is AV available for OS X.

I can see I've touched a nerve with a lot of people. I will let you know that I actually OWN an Apple laptop and am not just some Apple hater trolling. If your opinion differs from mine, great.

In the end I consider an Apple laptop a luxury item. Please don't post about the legendary customer service, question I have about OS X are usually beyond the Apple customer support or the geniuses. I can usually Google the answer.

TC25
Mar 18, 2013, 06:50 PM
Next time, try posting even more opinions as facts and twisting what I posted.

You're not worth wasting any more time on.

/end

stchman
Mar 18, 2013, 07:11 PM
Wow, I really touched a nerve. I guess others opinions are the only ones that count.

I merely stated that RAM first, but an i7 would be a worthwhile upgrade as it was only $100 more and merely an ~8.3% increase in price.

Done.

Miat
Mar 18, 2013, 09:57 PM
My argument is that the if you can afford $1200, you can afford $1300.

And it is a dumb argument. Anybody who plans their finances on that basis deserves to go bust.

I notice you did not address a single point I made about my buying decisions for my Air.

I'm out of this one.

AnorexicPig
Mar 18, 2013, 10:29 PM
And it is a dumb argument. Anybody who plans their finances on that basis deserves to go bust.

I notice you did not address a single point I made about my buying decisions for my Air.

I'm out of this one.

I agree,it's actually a dumb argument, when I went for my Mac,I had to save up for a whole month to be able to afford the extra ram,maybe for you 100$ aint much,but for many it is.

stchman
Mar 18, 2013, 11:27 PM
I agree,it's actually a dumb argument, when I went for my Mac,I had to save up for a whole month to be able to afford the extra ram,maybe for you 100$ aint much,but for many it is.

I did state that I consider owning a Mac a luxury that some cannot afford. I can afford one.

You could have gotten a Windows based laptop for less than what you paid for the Mac. Apparently you decided to spend at the very edge of your means.

AnorexicPig
Mar 19, 2013, 12:16 AM
I did state that I consider owning a Mac a luxury that some cannot afford. I can afford one.

You could have gotten a Windows based laptop for less than what you paid for the Mac. Apparently you decided to spend at the very edge of your means.

You are not getting the point,yes I saved every bit I could because I love OSX and Apple,the quality, feel everything-but spending a 100$ extra is easy just because I spent 1400$,well that logic is flawed.

stchman
Mar 19, 2013, 02:06 AM
You are not getting the point,yes I saved every bit I could because I love OSX and Apple,the quality, feel everything-but spending a 100$ extra is easy just because I spent 1400$,well that logic is flawed.

So spending $1400 is easy, an extra $100 is just too much?

AnorexicPig
Mar 19, 2013, 11:28 AM
So spending $1400 is easy, an extra $100 is just too much?

Yep it is.When you don't know the situation another person is,acting like this makes you look like an..well I won't use the word here-anyhow I rest my case.

keysofanxiety
Mar 19, 2013, 12:51 PM
Wow, I really touched a nerve. I guess others opinions are the only ones that count.

I merely stated that RAM first, but an i7 would be a worthwhile upgrade as it was only $100 more and merely an ~8.3% increase in price.

Done.

Really? Only an 8.3% price increase? To hell with a budget, it's only $100. Also, what percentage is the i7's performance compared to the i5's?

But seriously, you do make a point. OP, you should listen to stchman. :rolleyes: I think you should go for a fully kitted out Mac Pro. Yes, I know you said you wanted to choose between RAM and CPU, but honestly, why pay for that in a MacBook Air when you could get MORE from a Mac Pro? ;)

It's only a mere 347% increase. As my old man always used to say: "If you're going to spend $1000 on something you need, you don't give a **** about money and should therefore spend more than you need on something you never needed."

Yeah Ö his business went bust some time ago. But his words still reside to this day! :D

(OP, go for the RAM :))

Xeem
Mar 19, 2013, 01:07 PM
So spending $1400 is easy, an extra $100 is just too much?

I've seen a lot of people, particularly students using loan money, that have purchased MacBook Air and even Pros and are unable to go up an extra $100. Is it really so inconceivable that some people on a specific budget might need to be able to run a Mac-specific app or two?

But as to the OPís request: get the RAM. My last MacBook had one of its RAM slots go bad on the motherboard after a few years, and boy did that thing instantly feel like it was twice its age. If you're really going to be using this MBA for light everyday stuff, I think that you'll run into a performance wall with the 4 GB RAM well before you would with the i5 processor.

stchman
Mar 19, 2013, 06:23 PM
Really? Only an 8.3% price increase? To hell with a budget, it's only $100. Also, what percentage is the i7's performance compared to the i5's?

But seriously, you do make a point. OP, you should listen to stchman. :rolleyes: I think you should go for a fully kitted out Mac Pro. Yes, I know you said you wanted to choose between RAM and CPU, but honestly, why pay for that in a MacBook Air when you could get MORE from a Mac Pro? ;)

It's only a mere 347% increase. As my old man always used to say: "If you're going to spend $1000 on something you need, you don't give a **** about money and should therefore spend more than you need on something you never needed."

Yeah … his business went bust some time ago. But his words still reside to this day! :D

(OP, go for the RAM :))

For you I recommend therapy. Long sessions on the couch might help.

You are comparing a desktop Mac Pro to an UltraBook class laptop.

BTW, the performance difference between the i5 and i7 is ~15% on the 13" and 17% on the 11". You can go look it up. So an 8.3% increase in price giving you a 15%-17% increase in performance is a worthwhile upgrade.

For the last time:

I agree with the RAM upgrade, I simply made a point for conversation that the i5 to i7 upgrade is also worthy. If someone is going to spend $1200 on a laptop, $1300 is not a huge stretch.

Of course, someone like you likes to fly off the handle and get your little feathers ruffled with the realization that someone else's opinion differs with yours.

keysofanxiety
Mar 20, 2013, 04:07 AM
For you I recommend therapy. Long sessions on the couch might help.

You are comparing a desktop Mac Pro to an UltraBook class laptop.

BTW, the performance difference between the i5 and i7 is ~15% on the 13" and 17% on the 11". You can go look it up. So an 8.3% increase in price giving you a 15%-17% increase in performance is a worthwhile upgrade.

For the last time:

I agree with the RAM upgrade, I simply made a point for conversation that the i5 to i7 upgrade is also worthy. If someone is going to spend $1200 on a laptop, $1300 is not a huge stretch.

Of course, someone like you likes to fly off the handle and get your little feathers ruffled with the realization that someone else's opinion differs with yours.

Genuinely can't tell if you're trolling me. I have no idea how you took what I said literally, or how you thought I was 'flying off the handle' amidst all my little smileys :D

mcarling
Mar 20, 2013, 08:56 AM
I would rather have the 8GB of RAM than the 2.0GHz processor. I have a 2011 13" MacBook Air and swapping in and out of the 4GB of RAM slows down the machine far more than the 1.8GHz processor. The only reason I'm tempted to get a new MacBook Air is the availability of 8GB of RAM.

Stephen Dowling
Mar 20, 2013, 10:14 AM
I can afford a Mac, some people cannot.

Clearly, the OP can afford a Mac as well. I think it is safe to assume that each person that has replied to this thread owns a Mac. No one really cares if you can personally afford a Mac, or how much you spent on it. The OP is asking for advice; so you either help or you don't. In case I, and others in this thread are not are not being clear: You aren't helping anyone.


Sigh.


OP - I would personally go with the RAM upgrade, especially since you cannot add more later on. I was using 4GB on my MBP until a friend of mine was kind enough to give me his 8GB RAM after he upgraded to 16GB.

I thought 4GB was working fine until I upped it to 8GB. It really does make a difference.

Good luck with your decision!

gnasher729
Mar 20, 2013, 10:46 AM
No offense, but Macs are not built for the budget concious consumer. I think Macs are good machines, but defeintely overpriced.

Expensive, not overpriced.

And the OP uses exactly the right strategy: Fix a price. Then find the best product that you can get for that price. (Should consider refurbished Macs as well, which might get him a better Mac for the same money).

And for almost everybody it is not a question of being able to afford a Mac, but of getting their priorities right.

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So spending $1400 is easy, an extra $100 is just too much?

Might have saved $50 a month for the last two years. $100 could mean waiting another two months. Myself, I set a budget and then I don't exceed it. That's discipline and gets you the best value for your money.

stchman
Mar 20, 2013, 12:44 PM
I'm almost sorry I engaged in this thread.

To the OP:

I would DEFINITELY get the RAM upgrade from 4GB to 8GB.

IF you can afford the processor upgrade from i5 to i7, I recommend that upgrade as well almost as much as the RAM.

Barhen
Mar 21, 2013, 06:38 AM
I would pick the ram upgrade, the slight processor speed bump for your casual use of it, would not be noticeable, and the SSD drive can be upgraded cheaper at 3rd party sites later on down the road as an option.

B...
Mar 21, 2013, 08:09 AM
I would pick the ram upgrade, the slight processor speed bump for your casual use of it, would not be noticeable, and the SSD drive can be upgraded cheaper at 3rd party sites later on down the road as an option.

It is not just clock speed as the i7 has more cache (I think 4 MB) and actually outperforms the 2.5 i5 on the MBPs. But I agree, go for the RAM.

lixuelai
Mar 21, 2013, 08:18 AM
I'm almost sorry I engaged in this thread.

To the OP:

I would DEFINITELY get the RAM upgrade from 4GB to 8GB.

IF you can afford the processor upgrade from i5 to i7, I recommend that upgrade as well almost as much as the RAM.

Your argument basically comes down to this: "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche".

Barhen
Mar 21, 2013, 10:58 AM
It is not just clock speed as the i7 has more cache (I think 4 MB) and actually outperforms the 2.5 i5 on the MBPs. But I agree, go for the RAM.

i5 1.8 vs i7 2.0 cache 3mb vs 4mb. Its definitely very small bump in performance, for casual use, I wouldn't need it.

Yes, max out the ram.

Giuly
Mar 21, 2013, 11:00 AM
Go for the RAM, but frankly, wait a month and get both.

Barhen
Mar 21, 2013, 11:03 AM
Go for the CPU upgrade, and install 16GB Kingston HyperX RAM (http://amzn.to/Uq9a77) later, for little more than the $100 Apple charges you.

this is for the MacBook Air, the ram is soldered in, cannot be upgraded further once he buys it.

Giuly
Mar 21, 2013, 11:24 AM
this is for the MacBook Air, the ram is soldered in, cannot be upgraded further once he buys it.
I've figured that out after looking for a 2.0GHz i7 Mac Mini.

stchman
Mar 21, 2013, 02:33 PM
Your argument basically comes down to this: "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche".

I don't speak French, but I do recall that saying from my history classes. A quote that people have said was spoken by Marie Antoinette, but no proof that it ever was.

You reference to this is out of place. I am saying get both, not something that is not available.

DisplacedMic
Mar 21, 2013, 04:56 PM
No it is not terrible advice. That is your opinion. I hate it when people say "I should have spent the extra <$$$> on that upgrade". Spending an extra 8.3% is not lunacy.

I think Apple laptops are some of the best made, I also think Apple laptops are the most pricey. I know because I OWN one.

of course it's my opinion. whose else opinion would it be? i do think that most financial planners and economists would agree with me though

If you can afford X then you can afford 1.8X.
If you can afford X' then you can afford 3.24X.
If you can afford X'' then you can afford 5.832X

and so on.

If you can afford 1200 then you can afford 1300 is not a true statement.

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I don't speak French, but I do recall that saying from my history classes. A quote that people have said was spoken by Marie Antoinette, but no proof that it ever was.

You reference to this is out of place. I am saying get both, not something that is not available.

if by "but I do recall that saying from my history classes" you mean "so i googled it" then yes
:p:p:p

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Go for the RAM, but frankly, wait a month and get both.

why? what's happening in a month? or do you mean save up?

B...
Mar 21, 2013, 04:57 PM
why? what's happening in a month? or do you mean save up?

Save up.

DisplacedMic
Mar 22, 2013, 08:34 AM
Save up.

you SOB - i thought you knew something i didn't :rolleyes::rolleyes:

stchman
Mar 22, 2013, 11:36 AM
if by "but I do recall that saying from my history classes" you mean "so i googled it" then yes


You mean you Googled some obscure French sentence, copy and pasted it into a forum post so you can appear witty, then yes. :D

aelias80
Mar 23, 2013, 12:22 AM
Wow, I really touched a nerve. I guess others opinions are the only ones that count.

I merely stated that RAM first, but an i7 would be a worthwhile upgrade as it was only $100 more and merely an ~8.3% increase in price.

Done.

Wow,I posted this a few days ago and just came back to see the verdict and saw all the back & forth with various side arguments. Agreed with the position that X is not equal to X+Y.

With that said, I could get both, no financial issues here, just wondering if I should get both or just one and take my wife for a nice dinner with the extra $100 :)

From what I read and what my usage will be, I think RAM should suffice.

Thank you all for your response.

Cheers! :apple:

DisplacedMic
Mar 23, 2013, 06:40 AM
You mean you Googled some obscure French sentence, copy and pasted it into a forum post so you can appear witty, then yes. :D

that makes no sense. i didn't post it.
but i definitely had to google it once he did, as you clearly did as well.

"recall that saying from my history classes" that's hilarious