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MacRumors
Mar 27, 2013, 03:04 PM
http://images.macrumors.com/im/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/27/bmw-announces-new-ios-app-partnerships-with-audible-glympse-rhapsody-and-tunein/)


BMW has announced (http://www.bmwblog.com/2013/03/27/bmw-announces-four-new-app-integrations-for-iphone/) that its app-compatible (http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/bmw_apps/app_bmw_connected.html) BMW and MINI vehicles now support integration with iOS audio and music apps Audible (http://appshopper.com/books/audible), Rhapsody (http://appshopper.com/music/rhapsody-2), and TuneIn (http://appshopper.com/music/radioin), along with location sharing app Glympse (http://appshopper.com/navigation/glympse)."We regularly identify apps that our owners rely on as part of their everyday life, and adapt them for an in-vehicle experience they'll find safe, useful and engaging," said Phil Johnston, Product Manager for the BMW Group Apps Platform from the BMW Group Technology Office. "Audible, Glympse, Rhapsody and TuneIn were natural additions to the family of BMW Apps Ready Apps."http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/03/bmw_apps_audible.jpg
Apps can be accessed and used with the iDrive controller after plugging in an iPhone to the center console with a USB cable or the SnapIn adapter available in any compatible BMW or Mini.

All of the apps that have been approved for use with BMW Apps Ready vehicles will be updated over the next few weeks to add support for the new functionality. BMW Apps (http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/technology/connecteddrive/2010/infotainment/entertainment/bmw_apps.html) is an option that is available on 2011 and later BMW and MINI vehicles.

Article Link: BMW Announces New iOS App Partnerships with Audible, Glympse, Rhapsody, and TuneIn (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/27/bmw-announces-new-ios-app-partnerships-with-audible-glympse-rhapsody-and-tunein/)



JayCee842
Mar 27, 2013, 03:06 PM
Awesome! Now if I could only afford a BMW....

MacsRgr8
Mar 27, 2013, 03:45 PM
Indeed awesome!

I've got a BMW from 2009.... have to wait for my next Beemer! :o

alphaod
Mar 27, 2013, 03:48 PM
You would need more than just a BMW, you would need to add built-in navigation to get the screen, then BMW apps on top of that to get the functionality, and finally add the iPhone adapter to actually connect your iPhone.

It adds up really fast, but I'm still glad to get these updates.

komodrone
Mar 27, 2013, 04:00 PM
partner with lower income people.

GuitarDTO
Mar 27, 2013, 04:08 PM
Awesome. I have a 2008 335i, but have been contemplating the new 4 series when it comes out. I used TuneIn all the time this would be welcome.

bubba451
Mar 27, 2013, 04:09 PM
You would need more than just a BMW, you would need to add built-in navigation to get the screen, then BMW apps on top of that to get the functionality, and finally add the iPhone adapter to actually connect your iPhone.

It adds up really fast, but I'm still glad to get these updates.

Yup. At least on the US 3-series:


The BMW Apps option is itself $250
BUT requires the Navigation system ($2150)
AND BMW Assist ($650)

So unless you were going to get those options anyway, it's just over $3k to make use of this.

Still, as you said, nice to see the functionality improve.

drew0020
Mar 27, 2013, 04:11 PM
I've got a 2013 335i. This sounds better than reality. Facebook and Twitter integration suck if you want my honest opinion. I'd rather BMW focus on their two core apps which are disgraceful and still not formatted for the iPhone 5's screen.

It takes 5-10 minutes on average for the app to unlock/lock the car and/or flash the headlights when it works. Remote start would be nice as well, but considering we only spent $50K plus on a car I guess that’s too much to ask for?

GuitarDTO
Mar 27, 2013, 04:17 PM
I've got a 2013 335i. This sounds better than reality. Facebook and Twitter integration suck if you want my honest opinion. I'd rather BMW focus on their two core apps which are disgraceful and still not formatted for the iPhone 5's screen.

It takes 5-10 minutes on average for the app to unlock/lock the car and/or flash the headlights when it works. Remote start would be nice as well, but considering we only spent $50K plus on a car I guess that’s too much to ask for?

My wife has a 2012 X3 with the technology package & Navigation. BMW doesn't understand what a user friendly interface is, so I wouldn't expect their Apps to be any better. My wife doesn't even know how to do the most basic of activities like entering an address in the navigation system. We really need someone at Apple coming up with a standard App interface that can be applied to these cars (and other cars), not relying on the car vendor themselves.

osaga
Mar 27, 2013, 04:24 PM
Why doesn't apple just sell an ipad mini to auto manufacturers to embed in dashboards and let them create apps to control the various functions of the car. Seems obvious.

Worldwide 60 million cars were produced.
In the US 16 million cars purchased.
Germany produced 6 million in 2012.

Apple sold 50 million ipads in 2012? Maybe this would bump ipad sales by 10% or 15%? It would certainly benefit apple from an ecosystem standpoint.

Eduardo1971
Mar 27, 2013, 04:35 PM
Indeed awesome!

I've got a BMW from 2009.... have to wait for my next Beemer! :o

You're lucky my 330i ZHP is from 2004.

I ended up buying an after-market HD radio/iPhone interface which I currently use with my iPhone 4. It is not the cleanest of installation and the interface is clunky on the OEM navigation screen-but it serves it's purpose.

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I've got a 2013 335i...considering we only spent $50K plus on a car I guess that’s too much to ask for?

As much I love BMW's they do 'nickle' and 'dime' their customers.

philr5150
Mar 27, 2013, 04:46 PM
Why doesn't apple just sell an ipad mini to auto manufacturers to embed in dashboards and let them create apps to control the various functions of the car. Seems obvious.

Worldwide 60 million cars were produced.
In the US 16 million cars purchased.
Germany produced 6 million in 2012.

Apple sold 50 million ipads in 2012? Maybe this would bump ipad sales by 10% or 15%? It would certainly benefit apple from an ecosystem standpoint.

But then Apple are giving up some control of the hardware and manufacturing. That's something they do not like to do.

pnoyblazed
Mar 27, 2013, 04:55 PM
I should let my dad know about this.. he drives a 2013 X1

jontech
Mar 27, 2013, 04:57 PM
Have a 2013 328i sport. But it doesn't have the navigation system so I just use it to play back Music and podcasts. Next car will have those options ;)

Hope they come out with a lightening cable soon. Using my old iPod touch for my music. Would like to pickup a newer one

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You're lucky my 330i ZHP is from 2004.

I ended up buying an after-market HD radio/iPhone interface which I currently use with my iPhone 4. It is not the cleanest of installation and the interface is clunky on the OEM navigation screen but it serves it's purpose.

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As much I love BMW's they do 'nickle' and 'dime' their customers.

They charge a lot for options but I have to say the accessories are pretty reasonable

Chupa Chupa
Mar 27, 2013, 04:57 PM
You would need more than just a BMW, you would need to add built-in navigation to get the screen, then BMW apps on top of that to get the functionality, and finally add the iPhone adapter to actually connect your iPhone.


No, as long as you have BMW Apps option a USB to dock connector or lightning cable works. You don't need the plug-in adapter for BMW Apps, only to get the iPod GUI. (Source: me, owner of an '11 335i w/ BMW Apps but no plug-in adapter and frequent uses of the Pandora "app").

Yup. At least on the US 3-series:


The BMW Apps option is itself $250
BUT requires the Navigation system ($2150)
AND BMW Assist ($650)

So unless you were going to get those options anyway, it's just over $3k to make use of this.

Sort of, but no one buys any of that a la cart. It comes bundled in the Tech package which includes Nav, BT, and smartphone integration. I can't speak for other BMW owners but I didn't spend $3K to use BMW Apps, but rather Nav and BT, but the more compatibility BMW adds the better.

Why doesn't apple just sell an ipad mini to auto manufacturers to embed in dashboards and let them create apps to control the various functions of the car. Seems obvious.


I'm sure Apple would. The problem is likely on the automakers ends. I can't speak from experience with BMW, having owned 5 since '96, that BMW knows how to build a fun car to drive, but knows zero about tech. They are always, ALWAYS, 5 years behind any tech you could pick up off the shelf at BestBuy.

StarPower
Mar 27, 2013, 05:06 PM
Apple + BMW = Beautiful match.

Now all I gotta do is get myself back into an iPhone and dump this Android bullcrap.

joejoejoe
Mar 27, 2013, 05:19 PM
Why doesn't apple just sell an ipad mini to auto manufacturers to embed in dashboards and let them create apps to control the various functions of the car. Seems obvious.

Worldwide 60 million cars were produced.
In the US 16 million cars purchased.
Germany produced 6 million in 2012.

Apple sold 50 million ipads in 2012? Maybe this would bump ipad sales by 10% or 15%? It would certainly benefit apple from an ecosystem standpoint.

too dangerous. the whole point of the BMW idrive controller is to keep the driver's hand in one place when controlling the on board computer, which has apps adapted to be in line with a driving experience. using a mini while driving = lawsuits up the whazoo.

unless you're talking about apple letting car manufacturers create a new app environment for the ipad mini... which apple would never do. they want total control of the experience.

ladeer
Mar 27, 2013, 05:20 PM
My BMW app on 2012 528i is so buggy I gave up using it. Facebook and Twitter integration really just show off to people that you can update your address or destination from a bimmer. No thank you. I would be surprised if I really can upgrade my app to the new feature without buying a new car after all they charge a IPod cable for $100 and a iPhone cradle for $200. Speed limit infor to my GPS for $100, keyless entry for $1000, and BMW app for $200 (it is purely a software enablement!)

SirLance99
Mar 27, 2013, 06:18 PM
Why doesn't apple just sell an ipad mini to auto manufacturers to embed in dashboards and let them create apps to control the various functions of the car. Seems obvious.

Worldwide 60 million cars were produced.
In the US 16 million cars purchased.
Germany produced 6 million in 2012.

Apple sold 50 million ipads in 2012? Maybe this would bump ipad sales by 10% or 15%? It would certainly benefit apple from an ecosystem standpoint.

I would refuse to buy another BMW or any car for that matter if they did this.

I don't want Apple products integrated in the cars I buy. Worst idea ever.

johngarry
Mar 27, 2013, 06:27 PM
have 2013 X6M-fully, and though having paid for the 'xtras', BMW has no access to iPhone tech, so message/test/cal functionality won't ever work… until/unless Apple gives it to them… that from BMWUSA/AG both. just sayin :mad:

PinoyAko
Mar 27, 2013, 06:31 PM
have 2013 X6M-fully, and though having paid for the 'xtras', BMW has no access to iPhone tech, so message/test/cal functionality won't ever work… until/unless Apple gives it to them… that from BMWUSA/AG both. just sayin :mad:

First world problem!

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Why doesn't apple just sell an ipad mini to auto manufacturers to embed in dashboards and let them create apps to control the various functions of the car. Seems obvious.

Worldwide 60 million cars were produced.
In the US 16 million cars purchased.
Germany produced 6 million in 2012.

Apple sold 50 million ipads in 2012? Maybe this would bump ipad sales by 10% or 15%? It would certainly benefit apple from an ecosystem standpoint.

Only the 1% will benefit on this.

delnerdo
Mar 27, 2013, 06:31 PM
Go for the Ferrari with iPad included!

Verbatim Cookie
Mar 27, 2013, 06:46 PM
I've got a BMW from 2009.... have to wait for my next Beemer! :o
I have been informed by people who supposedly know about this matter that a BMW with four wheels is a bimmer; a beemer is a BMW with two wheels.

mrow
Mar 27, 2013, 06:57 PM
First world problem!

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Only the 1% will benefit on this.

So what? I paid $60k for my car, it is a lot to ask for for these features to work?

This is coming from a 27 year old registered Democrat by the way. I do care about the problems of the needy and the third would, but the issues are not related.

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I have been informed by people who supposedly know about this matter that a BMW with four wheels is a bimmer; a beemer is a BMW with two wheels.


Quoted for truth. Though it is a bit snobbish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW#BMW_slang

Ciclismo
Mar 27, 2013, 06:58 PM
I can't speak from experience with BMW, having owned 5 since '96, that BMW knows how to build a fun car to drive, but knows zero about tech. They are always, ALWAYS, 5 years behind any tech you could pick up off the shelf at BestBuy.

Part of the reason why they take longer is because they want to get it right. Take their adaptive cruise control - I couldn't make it screw up when I tried in heavy traffic. And it safely slowed me as someone only doing 120kph pulled out in front of me as I was cruising at 160kph, without either the car not me breaking a sweat.

osaga
Mar 27, 2013, 07:39 PM
But then Apple are giving up some control of the hardware and manufacturing. That's something they do not like to do.

Apple could retain control over the hardware and ios. It would just be an ipad with mounting tabs instead of the aluminum casing.

I'm sure Apple would. The problem is likely on the automakers ends. I can't speak from experience with BMW, having owned 5 since '96, that BMW knows how to build a fun car to drive, but knows zero about tech. They are always, ALWAYS, 5 years behind any tech you could pick up off the shelf at BestBuy.

Agreed. I bet auto manufacturers could be convinced from a cost standpoint. I don't know what they currently spend on tech for the hardware and programming of their nav systems, but it may be a lot more than the cost of an ipad + custom apps. If one company, say VW started doing it, the others may have to follow suit to stay competitive.

too dangerous. the whole point of the BMW idrive controller is to keep the driver's hand in one place when controlling the on board computer, which has apps adapted to be in line with a driving experience. using a mini while driving = lawsuits up the whazoo.

unless you're talking about apple letting car manufacturers create a new app environment for the ipad mini... which apple would never do. they want total control of the experience.

From a safety standpoint, I don't think it would be hard to add safeguards. For example: When the car is in gear, use could be limited to music, navigation, hands free calling (siri), and climate controls.

Apple opened the ios environment to app developers, i wouldn't be surprised if they allowed car manufacturers to create custom apps for their cars.


Only the 1% will benefit on this.

I think anyone buying a ford focus for $16,000 would opt for this for the extra $300 spread over a 5-10-15 year loan.

Lastly...
The hardware (screen & processor) in an ipad is probably on par or better than what the auto manufacturers are currently installing. Siri is probably better at voice recognition than anything they're using. And internet connected map data is probably superior on an ipad as well.

You could buy auto related apps: Like AAA, onstar, or geico. You could keep track of your mileage and speed with GPS (might come in handy for tax purposes, or if you let your kids drive.) You could locate your car in a parking garage. You could remotely start or unlock your car. You could view your dashboard/backup cameras from your iphone. It could alert you if the alarm goes off. Streaming music and content is probably the best aspect of this.

I would imagine that this is eventually going to occur with or without apple.

iLog.Genius
Mar 27, 2013, 10:18 PM
Having Apple supply the infotainment system won't work out because the OS (assuming they use some sort of iOS variant). You're not going to choose an OS from Apple over QNX, sorry not happening.

Apple would have to put in a lot of resources into making a solid infotainment system that not only handles the entertainment but also info about the car.

osaga
Mar 28, 2013, 12:03 AM
Assume the car manufacturer can separate vital processes (controlled by your qnx obc), from entertainment processes (controlled by a tablet).

Wouldn't a consumer want all the benefits of such a system in their car?...
Superior nav and voice recognition. Streaming music/video/live radio content. Hands free calling/texting. Remote monitoring. 1000's of auto related apps (eventually). Internet browsing. All with a simple interface and at a lower price point than current infotainment systems. Imagine the precision of traffic updates via crowd sourcing this could provide.

If the answer is yes. Then it needs to be provided by a company that has an ecosystem already in place. So who would you choose to do this? Apple, Android, Microsoft, Amazon, or maybe BlackBerry.

Someone should do it, just for the sake of ease and efficiency in the world.

SirLance99
Mar 28, 2013, 12:45 AM
Assume the car manufacturer can separate vital processes (controlled by your qnx obc), from entertainment processes (controlled by a tablet).

Wouldn't a consumer want all the benefits of such a system in their car?...
Superior nav and voice recognition. Streaming music/video/live radio content. Hands free calling/texting. Remote monitoring. 1000's of auto related apps (eventually). Internet browsing. All with a simple interface and at a lower price point than current infotainment systems. Imagine the precision of traffic updates via crowd sourcing this could provide.

If the answer is yes. Then it needs to be provided by a company that has an ecosystem already in place. So who would you choose to do this? Apple, Android, Microsoft, Amazon, or maybe BlackBerry.

Someone should do it, just for the sake of ease and efficiency in the world.

Yes I agree it should happen. Maybe with a choice between OS though. Google Now is far superior to Seri as is Google maps. So I would want that as a choice.

mrow
Mar 28, 2013, 01:56 AM
Having Apple supply the infotainment system won't work out because the OS (assuming they use some sort of iOS variant). You're not going to choose an OS from Apple over QNX, sorry not happening.

Apple would have to put in a lot of resources into making a solid infotainment system that not only handles the entertainment but also info about the car.

Is QNX still even available for auto makers to use? Is Blackberry still maintaining/selling it for use outside of their own devices?

iLog.Genius
Mar 28, 2013, 10:46 AM
Is QNX still even available for auto makers to use? Is Blackberry still maintaining/selling it for use outside of their own devices?

I think so. I remember seeing videos in late 2011 about QNX and whatever the latest version of iDrive was and improvements being made to it so I think they're still available to car manufacturers.

EDIT: Just remembered that QNX also did a concept system for the Bentley Continental GT.

MacsRgr8
Mar 28, 2013, 12:50 PM
I have been informed by people who supposedly know about this matter that a BMW with four wheels is a bimmer; a beemer is a BMW with two wheels.

Aha, tnx!

Didn't know that. :)

Chupa Chupa
Mar 28, 2013, 01:20 PM
Part of the reason why they take longer is because they want to get it right. Take their adaptive cruise control - I couldn't make it screw up when I tried in heavy traffic. And it safely slowed me as someone only doing 120kph pulled out in front of me as I was cruising at 160kph, without either the car not me breaking a sweat.

Yeah, was really talking about Navigation and creature comfort consumer tech, not safety tech, which BMW is in a solid position.

ghostlyorb
Mar 28, 2013, 07:39 PM
Why doesn't apple just sell an ipad mini to auto manufacturers to embed in dashboards and let them create apps to control the various functions of the car. Seems obvious.

Worldwide 60 million cars were produced.
In the US 16 million cars purchased.
Germany produced 6 million in 2012.

Apple sold 50 million ipads in 2012? Maybe this would bump ipad sales by 10% or 15%? It would certainly benefit apple from an ecosystem standpoint.

I have my iPad mini mounted in my BMW with a dashboard mount I found on Amazon. It's great.. for all of my music... navigation... and extra content for passengers. All you need is the internet version of the iPad... best purchase ever.

musique
Mar 29, 2013, 09:55 AM
Of a related, but relevant concern, I recently got a Toyota Prius. I told the salesman that the music on my iPhone was of key importance to me specifically to be able to play music using voice commands. I was told that it would work. That turns out to be untrue, at least for the six or seven weeks during which I've had the car.

I have a moderately sized collection of about 700 CDs ripped into iTunes and transferred to my iPhone5. Once connection (via lightning-USB cable) I'll ask the Prius to play a specfic symphony by Beethoven and it'll tell me to select one of the three songs it displays on-screen, one by Nora Jones, one by Eric Clapton, and one by the Beatles. Siri gets it right often, but the Prius, never. :(

Does anyone here know if BMW's voice command can in fact understand one's commands and play the piece requested? If not, is there another vehicle or third-party product, that can interface with the iPhone to actually play the piece requested?

Thanks.

imageWIS
Mar 29, 2013, 12:56 PM
Awesome! Now if I could only afford a BMW....

It's on MINI's too.

tekboi
Mar 30, 2013, 02:36 AM
*adds "Owning a BMW" to bucket list*

dmunz
Apr 2, 2013, 09:08 AM
Even with the plug in adaptor (or USB) you can still only get bits off your calendar using an iPhone. With a BlackBerry you can get the full calendar and e-mail over BT. You are limited to headers and first lines of text on the screen but the Nav system will read your mail for you (unless you recode the restrictions on the BMW but that is anthother forum...)

This is about the only thing I miss from BB after mocing to the iPhone.

FWIW
DLM

carlgo
Apr 2, 2013, 12:27 PM
My '05 X5 has terrible electronics, clunky when new and now terrible. I did replace the speakers and made a sub and that is great now, but the nav is horrid.

The best upgrade is to install a jack to the BMW receiver, they sell a kit, and run either an iPad or iPhone through it. Works great and doesn't require any fabrication. There are some nice holders for the devices.

This also keeps the option of the factory unit for a second opinion on navigating, for the useful computer functions and for the radio and even for CDs.

And many people would update the device every year or two, even as they keep the car for several years.

The promised big screen iPhone or an iPad with phone functions would be great for car use.