PhotoBooth for Other Macs? [Archive]

MacRumors

Oct 21, 2005, 02:09 PM

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Apple's support document (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=PhotoBooth/1.0/en/bth1000.html) for PhotoBooth 1.0 indicates that PhotoBooth will work with an both an external video camera (such as an iSight) as well as the iMac's built in video camera.

PhotoBooth (http://www.apple.com/imac/isight.html) is a simple fun application which allows new iMac owners to take photos of themselves and apply various effects -- such as Sepia, Glow, Comic Book and more. The manipulated photos can be sent to friends by email or placed in your iPhoto Library.

For whatever reason, Apple is only offering PhotoBooth pre-installed on new iMacs, and has not yet released the software publicly. According to various reader reports, the 3.5mb application has no restrictions and does work on other Macs with an iSight (or other external video camera).

Lacero

Oct 21, 2005, 02:09 PM

It works. Haven't tried it on a USB-enabled webcam. Seems to work fine even with some of my digital firewire camcorders.

miloblithe

Oct 21, 2005, 02:17 PM

Hopefully it will become available soon. Realistically I bet they'll include it as one of the upgrades in iLife 06, or something.

nagromme

Oct 21, 2005, 02:18 PM

Makes sense. If they don't want to give it away just for free, then it could at least be bundled with iSight cameras, and made available to iSight owners.

Maybe they're waiting until they've added a check that makes it iSight-only.

It would be simpler to give it a way for free, but then I'm not an disinterested party :)

vniow

Oct 21, 2005, 02:20 PM

*patiently awaiting similar news for Front Row*

amac4me

Oct 21, 2005, 02:20 PM

Hopefully it will become available soon. Realistically I bet they'll include it as one of the upgrades in iLife 06, or something.

I would have to agree, I think we'll see it packaged within the iLife 06 suite.

PharmD

Oct 21, 2005, 02:21 PM

My money (literally) is on an iLife 06 add-in. I wouldn't be opposed to a freebie however.

plasticparadox

Oct 21, 2005, 02:23 PM

Anyone know if this is out yet?

paulypants

Oct 21, 2005, 02:23 PM

I used it in an Apple Store yesterday, what a lovely waste of time :)

yellow5

Oct 21, 2005, 02:28 PM

I'm thinking if one was to go to any Mac torrent site, one would be able to download, and if one had a firewire camera one would be able to use it regardless of what Mac they had...

My friend did it...yeah... :rolleyes:

sweetaction

Oct 21, 2005, 02:28 PM

Hopefully it will become available soon. Realistically I bet they'll include it as one of the upgrades in iLife 06, or something.

Front Row, PhotoBooth and more will make iLife more sought after than ever.

JamSoft

Oct 21, 2005, 02:29 PM

What about Front Row?

Apple 'Front Row' Petition
< http://new.PetitionOnline.com/frontrow/petition.html >

-Nate

quackattack

Oct 21, 2005, 02:29 PM

*patiently awaiting similar news for Front Row*
Couldn't agree more. Photobooth is bound to be in iLife, I just hope Front Row finds its way in as well.

It makes sense, restrict the software during x-mas, cash in on tons of iMacs sold, release it to everyone in January in iLife 06. Everyone is happy. :D

Of course if Front Row isn't in iLife that will be another story.....

miloblithe

Oct 21, 2005, 02:31 PM

That adds to interesting speculation. Could iLife 06 inlcude Front Row, Photo Booth, a remote (or have a separate remote/receiver package available), as well as the usualy upgrades to iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, and Garageband?

That does sound like a product worth buying.

aftk2

Oct 21, 2005, 02:36 PM

So, can someone who has used PhotoBooth enlighten me a little on it? Is it really just what it looks like on the Apple website - a program that takes one picture at a time, and applies a range of effects to that one picture? Or can you set it up to be actually like a photo booth - taking a range of pictures in succession, putting them up 4 by 4 (or whatever), etc... Posting them elsewhere, etc...? I'm curious about using it for something like a party, or a video kiosk, fun little diversion, etc...

Having taken the plunge and ordered a new iMac, I'm interested in all of its various, strange little features. Oh, and apologies in advance about mentioning this purchase a million times - it's my first new Mac in six years.

mkaake

Oct 21, 2005, 02:40 PM

What about Front Row?

Apple 'Front Row' Petition
< http://new.PetitionOnline.com/frontrow/petition.html >

-Nate

LOL - you're, kidding, right?

Anyway, it would be a fun little app to have around from time to time, but my life wouldn't be over if they didn't make it available to other macs...

tiiim

Oct 21, 2005, 02:42 PM

tiiim

Oct 21, 2005, 02:44 PM

LOL - you're, kidding, right?

hehe since when did any big company follow petitions? Look at MSN mac for an example...

Stella

Oct 21, 2005, 02:48 PM

Photobooth looked fun, but not much else - a toy application.

I imagine people would use it a few times and then not much after that.

kenaustus

Oct 21, 2005, 02:48 PM

Steve J is going to want to do something with iLife 06 to motivate those who bought iLife 05 to upgrade. Front Row is something that could be added, but the remote would either be sold separately or added to iLife 06+. PhoneBooth is a simple addition, but would not add much sizzle. Aperture Express is another potential, but I see that as a stand alone app in a year or so.

Some_Big_Spoon

Oct 21, 2005, 02:49 PM

Well, it's probably been mentioned, but iLife comes preinstalled on all macs and has no restrictions.. it's a value added thing until they rollit out as a fun little part of a new software package, or on all macs..

Same thing with the mighty mouse.. they released it early, got some cash from early adopters, then made it standard on all new revisions.

Standard stuff. It'll hit the torrent sites soon and peeps will get to check it out, but it's really such an iMac kinda app; isight built in, big screen flashes.. it'll work on existing puters, but it just won't have the same effect.. I think that's really where the "restrictions" (only iMac for now) make sense. You want it to perform at it's best, so put it with the system designed for it.

It's gimmicky, but it's neat when just thrown in for "free".. Macs can be fun, and be work horses, that's part of the amazing thing about the machines.. they're all things to all people.

miloblithe

Oct 21, 2005, 02:49 PM

Photobooth looked fun, but not much else - a toy application.

I imagine people would use it a few times and then not much after that.

Agreed. Play for an hour, then maybe use it every couple months to make a new picture for forums or iChat.

But it sounds neat. It'll help sell products, even if only a little.

miloblithe

Oct 21, 2005, 02:51 PM

Aperture Express is another potential, but I see that as a stand alone app in a year or so.

You just made me drool.

Lacero

Oct 21, 2005, 02:54 PM

If it comes out, it should replace iPhoto. I think having 3 photo management apps is too many.

MM2270

Oct 21, 2005, 02:54 PM

Front Row, PhotoBooth and more will make iLife more sought after than ever.

What? You guys can't be serious. Why would this be included in iLife? It has none of the trademarks of an iLife app. iLife apps are about content creation, not some silly tool that lets you mess around with a picture in some dumb limited fashion. I just don't see that happening, and I don't see what value it could add to iLife at all. I can see it being released as a free download or bundled with iSight cameras though.

solvs

Oct 21, 2005, 02:54 PM

I'm sure they'll start adding it, they'd be stupid not to. It's probably just a feeler. Like when iMovie only came on the iMacs at first, then they added it to all Macs. I guess they could add it to the iSight as a software bundle, but not all of us have them or would buy them. I have a fw camera that works fine. You'd probably need an IR port for the remote, but that is sold separately already for the iPod dock.

miloblithe

Oct 21, 2005, 02:56 PM

iLife apps are about content creation.

iTunes?

JonHimself

Oct 21, 2005, 02:59 PM

iTunes?
And I suppose you could argue that PhotoBooth does create content, albeit rather mundane and limited...

Lacero

Oct 21, 2005, 03:00 PM

I really don't see this being a part of iLife. It's better bundled with iSight purchases or new Macs that come with built-in cameras.

stelriah

Oct 21, 2005, 03:01 PM

itunes lets you create playlists ;)

and i dont see whats so great about photobooth. its just a little app to promote the cam in the monitor.

aftk2

Oct 21, 2005, 03:04 PM

not some silly tool that lets you mess around with a picture in some dumb limited fashion

*cough*iPhoto*cough*

devilot

Oct 21, 2005, 03:05 PM

and i dont see whats so great about photobooth. its just a little app to promote the cam in the monitor.Gasp. Blasphemy! :p Did you watch the keynote? I thought it sounded pretty lame, too but Steve Jobs makes it look like so much fun. And I read a post somewhere here on MR and it made sense to me-- w/ Photobooth's built-in timed picture-taker you could take family photos.

I don't really care either way if it only comes w/ an iSight or w/ iLife '06. Think I'd get both-- I've been waiting for a good excuse to get an iSight. :o

MM2270

Oct 21, 2005, 03:13 PM

*cough*iPhoto*cough*

Well I'd have to disagree there. iPhoto is an organization tool for all your digital images that lets you create slideshows or webpages. Granted it's not the best app in the world, but it does the trick for most folks. Honestly, what does PhotoBooth really do outside of messing around with a pic in a limited fashion?

I'll concede that iTunes is not necessarily a content creation tool, but my general view on PhotoBooth still stands. It's a gimmicky tool with no real purpose or major appeal outside of the "teen" crowd. I really don't see how this would add any value to iLife '06. In fact, Apple's gonna have to come up with something good this time around for me to cough up the cash for it again. Maybe some Aperture features may work it's way into iPhoto or something. I'd like to see that for one.

KindredMAC

Oct 21, 2005, 03:17 PM

From what I've seen of Photobooth, I could care less if it comes out for the rest of the lineups. I think middle school aged kids will have a blast with it, but if someone over the age of 18 is really going to find it useful or entertaining then I imagine they find watching grass grow very enjoyable too.

I would really love to see Front Row come out. Especially after I buy a 23" display with my new Dual 2.0GHz G5 that just came out.

~Shard~

Oct 21, 2005, 03:33 PM

Good to see. Now the question is, when will we see it offically released for other Macs?

Chupa Chupa

Oct 21, 2005, 03:41 PM

For whatever reason, Apple is only offering PhotoBooth pre-installed on new iMacs, and has not yet released the software publicly.

Yeah, for "whatever reason." Is that MacSpeak for marketing? Apple wants to sell computers. Offering PhotoBooth a la carte right now would be a disincentive to buy an iMac (especially since this is probably the very last PPC iMac). If Apple is going to have a blowout quarter it needs to max out sales of iPods AND iMacs.

celebi23

Oct 21, 2005, 03:49 PM

I can vouche for this. I've been using Photobooth on my girlfriend's ultimate 15inch powerbook (my iBook G4 doesn't support Core Image :mad: ) It's a pretty fun application. I would consider paying for it if there were more photo effects to choose from.

jihad the movie

Oct 21, 2005, 03:54 PM

I went into the Apple Store at Eastview today to get my powerbook's lazy pixels checked out, and although they didn't fix my problem (they couldn't be seen under fluorescent lighting), the Genius said something to the effect of "There's a petition online with a couple thousand signatures for both Front Row and PhotoBooth, it won't be long until they're released for everybody..."

aftk2

Oct 21, 2005, 03:58 PM

my general view on PhotoBooth still stands. It's a gimmicky tool with no real purpose or major appeal outside of the "teen" crowd. I really don't see how this would add any value to iLife '06.

Oh, no real argument here. :) It is a gimmick. Including FrontRow in some capacity with iLife makes more sense to me, since iLife is supposed to be about the digital lifestyle (ugh, please smack me for using that term). Part of that is content creation (iMovie, GarageBand, etc...) and grouping (hence iPhoto and iTunes), and part of that is presentation of said digital content (burning CDs, transferring items to iPod, photo books, burning DVDs, etc...), and FrontRow really goes a long way in terms of presenting that content. Perhaps Front Row will be included at an extra cost, since I wouldn't want to buy iLife 06 while paying for a remote, if I already received a remote with my iMac.

jdechko

Oct 21, 2005, 04:02 PM

Perhaps Front Row will be included at an extra cost, since I wouldn't want to buy iLife 06 while paying for a remote, if I already received a remote with my iMac.

You raise a good point, but I think that the remote will continue to be sold separately. You'd want the Front Row software to be included and updated with every revision of iLife, but you wouldn't want to have to buy a new remote: Hence, Front Row is included, but not the remote.

Carl Spackler

Oct 21, 2005, 04:24 PM

Wouldn't RAW support in iPhoto be Aperture Express? I'm sure it's in the works.

I think PhotoBooth is the perfect compliment to a house party. Just imagine all the drunken fun! That being said, I'm going to attempt to find it before 6 tomorrow night.

mdntcallr

Oct 21, 2005, 04:53 PM

They need to release iLife '06 soon.

they release alot of software a couple months before the year in title. same with cars.

but this one ought to be with both new apps

ChrisBrightwell

Oct 21, 2005, 05:26 PM

They need to release iLife '06 soon. Shouldn't they wait until '06?

:cool:

~Shard~

Oct 21, 2005, 05:31 PM

They need to release iLife '06 soon.

they release alot of software a couple months before the year in title. same with cars.

but this one ought to be with both new apps

No it shouldn't. :p iLife 06 will be out in 2006. Released at MWSF 2006 to be exact. :cool:

Lau

Oct 21, 2005, 05:33 PM

Now, what would be nice is if they released Front Row to the public, and then you could use your iPod as a remote, in all its scrollwheeled glory.... :)

p0intblank

Oct 21, 2005, 05:45 PM

I would love to have PhotoBooth on my Macs. I agree with you about not using it much, but it would definitely be a fun little app to play around with when you have company over, especially around the holidays. And who's to say only adults use Macs? Kids love these kinds of apps. Heck, I would like it too. Including it in iLife '06 would be neat. I would also like Front Row, but I don't see that being included.

animefan_1

Oct 21, 2005, 06:21 PM

Hopefully it will become available soon. Realistically I bet they'll include it as one of the upgrades in iLife 06, or something.

I agree. It wouldn't surprise me if this were an iMac-exclusive for 2005 and the rest of us get it as part of iLife '06 next year.

EricNau

Oct 21, 2005, 07:01 PM

I want PhotoBooth available for everyone who buys or has bought a iSight.

quackattack

Oct 21, 2005, 07:26 PM

I want PhotoBooth available for everyone who buys or has bought a iSight.
I'm sure it will be packaged with them in the future. Or maybe we have a revision coming.... Steve did say the camera in the iMacs is better than the current iSights.

Le Big Mac

Oct 21, 2005, 07:39 PM

Front Row, PhotoBooth and more will make iLife more sought after than ever.

While both are nice little apps, they're hardly killer iLife sellers.

I guess this isn't original now, but how about updating iPhoto to incorporate some of the aspects of Aperture. Photochop has the CS version. Why not iPhoto?

~Shard~

Oct 21, 2005, 07:41 PM

I guess this isn't original now, but how about updating iPhoto to incorporate some of the aspects of Aperture. Photochop has the CS version. Why not iPhoto?

Yes, this has been discussed many times already in the appropriate thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=156123). I think it would be excellent, especially the high res photo books. :cool:

EricNau

Oct 21, 2005, 07:47 PM

I'm sure it will be packaged with them in the future. Or maybe we have a revision coming.... Steve did say the camera in the iMacs is better than the current iSights.
But for all of those people out there with current iSights, they deserve that program also.

Bear

Oct 21, 2005, 08:52 PM

Wouldn't RAW support in iPhoto be Aperture Express? I'm sure it's in the works.
...Actually iPhoto already has RAW support.

reallynotnick

Oct 21, 2005, 09:24 PM

I think photobooth should come with all iSights and anyone who already bought an iShight should be able to download it. But better yet it should just be free to anyone.

As for Front Row that should definitely come with iLife '06 it just makes sense, it ties the whole iLife together. All of the things you view in Front Row come from iLife apps. I would bet anything Front Row is comming in the next iLife and you can buy the remote for an extra fee.

aswitcher

Oct 22, 2005, 01:45 AM

Photobooth is in the wild. Works with iSights and Firewire cams. Works with all modern Macs from accounts. I dont know why Apple dont just release it. It should at least be a freebie for .Mac owners.

aafuss1

Oct 22, 2005, 02:29 AM

I'd say it'll be a free download very soon -with a Intel ready version 2.0/3.0 coming in the future. Could be part of Leopard.

aswitcher

Oct 22, 2005, 08:02 AM

I'd say it'll be a free download very soon -with a Intel ready version 2.0/3.0 coming in the future. Could be part of Leopard.

It looks like such a cool app, and since its firewire based it promotes isight sales, so I can easily see it being released soon - at the latest with iLife 06 in 2 months.

The more I think about it the more I think they need to make this a freeby right now for .Mac owners.

I heard there was a petition as well to get it released to Mac users ;)

Carl Spackler

Oct 22, 2005, 08:57 AM

Actually iPhoto already has RAW support.

Whoops. You're quite right.

It would be just whacky if PhotoBooth were currently in alt.binaries.mac.osx.apps

Time to fire up Thoth, ladies and gents.

dazcox5181

Oct 22, 2005, 10:55 AM

Not to offend, but this is not the place to be discussing where to obtain this...If you dont know then look harder...
Anyway, anyone tried it with frontrow yet?

hyperpasta

Oct 22, 2005, 11:38 AM

Not to offend, but this is not the place to be discussing where to obtain this...If you dont know then look harder...
Anyway, anyone tried it with frontrow yet?

From what I understand, Front Row is not an app. It's probably hidden away somewhere and is running all the time. It requires an IR receiver to work, and contrary to what people thought about it being in the iSight, it's actually behind the Apple logo on the front. I don't think it's as easily stealable as say PhotoBooth.

wdlove

Oct 22, 2005, 11:53 AM

It looks like such a cool app, and since its firewire based it promotes isight sales, so I can easily see it being released soon - at the latest with iLife 06 in 2 months.

The more I think about it the more I think they need to make this a freeby right now for .Mac owners.

I heard there was a petition as well to get it released to Mac users ;)

Yes, I signed the petition. Now to see is Apple listens.

I think you are on to something with .Mac owners.

ensee

Oct 22, 2005, 01:57 PM

The new iMac is shipping with a better camera than iSight - chances are a new, better - and hopefully cheaper - one will will come out in the near future.

Now, with this little camera sitting on top of your mac, I think a new form factor would leave room for an IR receiver. They've squeezed it into the top of an iMac - new components must be smaller so I figure they could put the sensor in. Then, with that, you could use the remote to control Front Row in iLife 06.

By that time I hope it won't just stream movie trailers but it'll let you buy movies. Front Row is the perfect vessel to sell movies through since it's already there, ready for you to control just as you would a DVD. That could be used as the argument against letting you burn a movie you buy to disk, just as you can't burn music videos.

Or something like that.

My point is, Photo Booth will ship with the new iSight. Most other webcams give you some free software with them, not just drivers.

kcmac

Oct 22, 2005, 02:43 PM

The new iMac is shipping with a better camera than iSight -
Now sure this is what steve said, but come on, do you really believe that?

With the isight permanently installed you can no longer

aim where you want
use apps like iglasses to greatly improve dark or low light situations.

And those are just a couple of reasons. Photo Booth should be released to the masses. At least thru .Mac which has previously been mentioned.

tiramisu

Oct 22, 2005, 04:48 PM

i'm really waiting for this. i own the isight. i've a .mac account. it's a shame. so come on! ;-)

aswitcher

Oct 22, 2005, 05:21 PM

The new iMac is shipping with a better camera than iSight - chances are a new, better - and hopefully cheaper - one will will come out in the near future.

Now, with this little camera sitting on top of your mac, I think a new form factor would leave room for an IR receiver. They've squeezed it into the top of an iMac - new components must be smaller so I figure they could put the sensor in. Then, with that, you could use the remote to control Front Row in iLife 06.

Or something like that.

My point is, Photo Booth will ship with the new iSight. Most other webcams give you some free software with them, not just drivers.

Bingo, thats of course what they will do. Nexr iSight comes with an IR receiver, and is packed with Frontrow and Photobooth :) Hopefully for the same price as the current model iSight.

~Shard~

Oct 22, 2005, 05:27 PM

Bingo, thats of course what they will do. Nexr iSight comes with an IR receiver, and is packed with Frontrow and Photobooth :) Hopefully for the same price as the current model iSight.

That would definitely be a good solution - especially at the current iSight price. :cool:

p0intblank

Oct 22, 2005, 05:29 PM

I played around with Photo Booth today on my PowerBook and definitely had some fun. :D

~Shard~

Oct 22, 2005, 05:31 PM

I played around with Photo Booth today on my PowerBook and definitely had some fun. :D

Do you see it as being something you would use often though? That seems to be a complaint others have with the app, is that the novelty would wear off fast and it would become rather useless over time. Just curious to hear a user's perspective. :)

cal6n

Oct 22, 2005, 06:44 PM

Do you see it as being something you would use often though? That seems to be a complaint others have with the app, is that the novelty would wear off fast and it would become rather useless over time. Just curious to hear a user's perspective. :)

Yeah, the novelty could wear off real fast but then there are times it'll be really useful. For instance, those companies that offer discount with a valid student union card or require some other form of ID. Just hold your card up to the camera and go straight to mail. No mucking around with scanners etc.

Useful for mooning, too! :D

~Shard~

Oct 22, 2005, 06:50 PM

Yeah, the novelty could wear off real fast but then there are times it'll be really useful. For instance, those companies that offer discount with a valid student union card or require some other form of ID. Just hold your card up to the camera and go straight to mail. No mucking around with scanners etc.

Useful for mooning, too! :D

Very good points! ;)

Nikko1965

Oct 22, 2005, 08:59 PM

I want PhotoBooth available for everyone who buys or has bought a iSight.

I've said this before and been ignored and smart-arsed but in all repects iSight *the product* now has additional software and therefore all iSight owners should be entitled to a copy. Especially when you consider that you get very little useful with your iSight, that you need to spend another $20 at least for iGlasses to make the thing work properly, that you then need another $50 for EvoCam to allow the camera to do webcam functions that Apple couldn't get round to adding (too busy on the iPod nonsesnse), how ridiculous it is that USB cams "strangely" don't work with Macs and the only viable Hobson's Choice is the Apple product...

Grrrrrrr.

Nick

p0intblank

Oct 22, 2005, 09:24 PM

Do you see it as being something you would use often though? That seems to be a complaint others have with the app, is that the novelty would wear off fast and it would become rather useless over time. Just curious to hear a user's perspective. :)

Yeah it definitely wears off. I think of it as the EyeToy for the Mac. :p I still think it's a very cool app though, and definitely something I didn't really expect to come from Apple. When I think of Apple's software, productivity apps instantly jump to mind, like Final Cut Pro. I would love to see more "fun" apps like Photo Booth from Apple in the future.

I'll probably play with it again tomorrow. :p

freiheit

Oct 22, 2005, 09:48 PM

*patiently awaiting similar news for Front Row*

Hear hear! Front Row is the killer application of the last 3 Apple media events. Oh I'm sure some people will be giddy over PhotoBooth and some professional photographers will really enjoy Aperture, but Front Row puts the Mac into the living room. If only it had PVR capabilities (perhaps hooks into iMovie), but maybe that's coming in iLife 06. *crosses fingers*

bertagert

Oct 22, 2005, 11:14 PM

Hear hear! Front Row is the killer application of the last 3 Apple media events....If only it had PVR capabilities (perhaps hooks into iMovie), but maybe that's coming in iLife 06. *crosses fingers*

Yeah, Photobooth will be short lived.

Front Row will change everything. This could truly sell as much as the ipod if not more. I know most people on here aren't that old but I'm in my late 20's. I already have nieces, newphews, parents, grand parents, and siblings that live far away. I have this in plan:

1. Set each one up with a mac mini. This will replace the DVD player and also, in most cases, the stereo.

2. Each one gets an isight as well for doing video conferencing.

With this setup, each has the DVD player, the CD player (or just keep all in itunes), video conferencing, and a computer for parents/grandparents to use on a big screen for their poor eyes. All anyone has to do is have the main tv remote, and when they want music, dvd's, computer, all they have to do is hit the tv/video button on the remote and they're in.

As for the PVR. Seems Comcast/Direct TV etc. have this done already. No need to put it in this box as well.

I hope Apple has this in plan for the mac mini. such and easy setup and great tool.

DJY

Oct 22, 2005, 11:25 PM

I'm hoping they put it in 10.4.3 which is due out very very soon anyway!

zap2

Oct 22, 2005, 11:34 PM

AvSRoCkCO1067

Oct 22, 2005, 11:47 PM

I'm hoping they put it in 10.4.3 which is due out very very soon anyway!

HECK NO!

10.4.3 builds have been out some time - there's no way Apple would, as they near completion, simply add Front Row into the code...

Sorry!

freiheit

Oct 23, 2005, 12:40 AM

As for the PVR. Seems Comcast/Direct TV etc. have this done already. No need to put it in this box as well.

Not everyone has cable or satellite, believe it or not. I don't watch that much TV so can't justify the cost, but when I do watch TV I'd like to be able to record my shows on something better than a VCR. A true "media center" computer should both play and record media. Front Row is an excellent first step and makes the playing part dead simple; not to mention it integrates so well with iLife. But iLife itself has recording/capturing capabilities which Front Row could augment specifically for scheduling recordings from a TV tuner, etc.

10.4.3 builds have been out some time - there's no way Apple would, as they near completion, simply add Front Row into the code...

I took the comment to mean that hopefully Photo Booth would be n 10.4.3. Being such a simple, single purpose app I think that would make sense. But I also like what others have said, that it should be bundled with the iSight since its only purpose is to work with the iSight. Like Steve said, they wanted something you could do with the iSight right out of the box and Photo Booth was it. Now just take that to the iSight itself and not just the iSight built into the iMac. Makes perfect sense.

Chip NoVaMac

Oct 23, 2005, 12:50 AM

~Shard~

Oct 23, 2005, 01:18 AM

Yeah it definitely wears off. I think of it as the EyeToy for the Mac. :p I still think it's a very cool app though, and definitely something I didn't really expect to come from Apple. When I think of Apple's software, productivity apps instantly jump to mind, like Final Cut Pro. I would love to see more "fun" apps like Photo Booth from Apple in the future.

I'll probably play with it again tomorrow. :p

Yeah, I guess there is something to be said for "fun" apps like that. Nothing really wrong with that, as long as Apple doesn't spend too much time focusing on them as opposed to their "serious" offerings. ;)

Knowing me, I'd probably waste my time playing around with it all the time and never get anything productive done.... :o

p0intblank

Oct 23, 2005, 01:25 AM

Yeah, I guess there is something to be said for "fun" apps like that. Nothing really wrong with that, as long as Apple doesn't spend too much time focusing on them as opposed to their "serious" offerings. ;)

Knowing me, I'd probably waste my time playing around with it all the time and never get anything productive done.... :o

Haha, that would be so true for me too. ;) I get distracted enough as it is...

jamferma

Oct 23, 2005, 06:50 AM

i would like to just confirm that photobooth does work on older macs. i have it on my imac now and its the generation that came out with the light senc. I dont have an isight camera, but i have a macally (icecam) and photobooth workes perfectly. camerea is a USB cam

cal6n

Oct 23, 2005, 07:52 AM

but that would be the cameri not really the App??

Not really. The camera, App and email functionality are all-in-one and "just work".

wdlove

Oct 23, 2005, 10:35 AM

I'm hoping they put it in 10.4.3 which is due out very very soon anyway!

It would make more sense to come with iLife 06.

~Shard~

Oct 23, 2005, 11:08 AM

It would make more sense to come with iLife 06.

I agree, I think we might be seeing a lot along these lines at MWSF...

Westside guy

Oct 23, 2005, 02:40 PM

Since the Apple remote control for Front Row is infrared, not Bluetooth... it would seem to me that it's not very likely that Front Row will be released as a stand-alone app - let alone as part of iLife. Perhaps other future Macs will have infrared receivers built in, though (like the new iMac does).

I do wish Apple (or someone else) would come out with a reasonable Bluetooth remote control though, rather than clunky semi-solutions like Salling Clicker.

Loke

Oct 23, 2005, 06:16 PM

Im using Photo Boot together with a Mac Mini and a Sony DVR-HC90 videocamera. While the realtime effects on the Mac mini is less than stellar, I must say this app *is* hillarious.

G5Unit

Oct 23, 2005, 06:25 PM

1. Set each one up with a mac mini. This will replace the DVD player and also, in most cases, the stereo.
Yeh then they should at least upgrade the sound card in the mac mini.

Loke

Oct 23, 2005, 06:49 PM

According to early rumors comming in from new iMac owners, Front Row is nowhere to be found as a standalone application on the harddrive.

ErikGrim

Oct 23, 2005, 07:26 PM

According to early rumors comming in from new iMac owners, Front Row is nowhere to be found as a standalone application on the harddrive.It is a stand-alone application, but it's in CoreServices and relies on frameworks only available in the 10.4.2-versions coming with the new iMacs. It also performs a check if there's a remote present.

~Shard~

Oct 23, 2005, 11:18 PM

Eniregnat

Oct 23, 2005, 11:26 PM

It will be a nice addition to the iLife suite.

~Shard~

Oct 23, 2005, 11:35 PM

It will be a nice addition to the iLife suite.

It definitely has potential to become part of the suite - I guess we'll find out at MWSF.

aegisdesign

Oct 24, 2005, 06:32 AM

hehe since when did any big company follow petitions? Look at MSN mac for an example...

What? I missed a petition to kill off MSN? :D

WinterMute

Oct 24, 2005, 07:16 AM

Promotion of piracy is a banning issue at MR, please noet that further discussion of where to obtain any apps or software will draw a swift vacation from the forums.

MacRumors does not condone the piracy of software, the discussion of it's dissemination or the eating of Eccles cakes.

drlunanerd

Oct 24, 2005, 07:39 AM

But... but... what about the succulent currants and flaky pastry?!

a456

Oct 24, 2005, 08:51 AM

It's not the Apple one and doesn't do the same stuff but it is on the Apple site for download: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/imaging_3d/photobooth.html

:D

MacsRgr8

Oct 24, 2005, 11:24 AM

Yeah, I saw that too.

Won't Apple have any problems with that name??

valkraider

Oct 24, 2005, 11:56 AM

For anyone interested, you can do all of the same effects that PhotoBooth provides to any image using Core Image Funhouse

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050603202507547

The only difference is that PhotoBooth does it "real time" with a webcam. If you can take a snapshot with your webcam (iSight or whatever) you can do all the same effects with Core Image Funhouse, and you can even do it with any other digital image you have....

Chryx

Oct 24, 2005, 12:10 PM

With the isight permanently installed you can no longer

use apps like iglasses to greatly improve dark or low light situations.

Uhh. the physical location of the camera has precisely zero relation to iglasses working or not.

Zoowatch

Oct 24, 2005, 12:32 PM

i'd be more excited if the same happens with Front Row

Waiting for Apple to exercise some marketing & sales common sense

sell them as separate suite for any Mac

Wire_Apple_Geek

Oct 24, 2005, 11:23 PM

It is a stand-alone application, but it's in CoreServices and relies on frameworks only available in the 10.4.2-versions coming with the new iMacs. It also performs a check if there's a remote present.

Ok for starters both of your comments in this post are incorrect. Front row is not a stand alone app, it also requires the interfacing of a AppleScript as well, most people dont know this as it is a hidden file.

Second it doesnt do a check for a remote. I have no remote for my powerbook and it works just peachy.

Last but not least for everyones clarification it will work on any machine. But Erik is correct it does require 10.4.2, i have it presently loaded on a mac mini, a g5 tower, and my powerbook. One flaw is the the movie section does not properly support files not supported by quicktime in your ~/Movies folder.

There are some other minor issues with it that im sure will be resolved in the near future.

bertagert

Oct 24, 2005, 11:33 PM

ok wire_geek,

Tell us more on how you got it running on your other systems.

joeyboy76

Oct 25, 2005, 03:49 AM

i'd be more excited if the same happens with Front Row

Waiting for Apple to exercise some marketing & sales common sense

sell them as separate suite for any Mac

merry christmas! it has been done!

http://we.dont.post.those.here.com

~Shard~

Oct 25, 2005, 09:06 AM

merry christmas! it has been done!

http://we.dont.post.those.here.com

Hey, your link doesn't work... Oh, bousozoku got to it I see, just as he should. Gotcha. :o ;)

ErikGrim

Oct 25, 2005, 09:24 AM

Ok for starters both of your comments in this post are incorrect. Front row is not a stand alone app, it also requires the interfacing of a AppleScript as well, most people dont know this as it is a hidden file.

Second it doesnt do a check for a remote. I have no remote for my powerbook and it works just peachy.

Last but not least for everyones clarification it will work on any machine. But Erik is correct it does require 10.4.2, i have it presently loaded on a mac mini, a g5 tower, and my powerbook. One flaw is the the movie section does not properly support files not supported by quicktime in your ~/Movies folder.

There are some other minor issues with it that im sure will be resolved in the near future.It is a stand-alone app (I should know, it resides in my Application-folder), just as Software Update is a stand-alone app (that too resides in CoreServices). And its running happily with my iMac (May 2005, not the new one). It did check for a remote (it came up in the console log), but that is removed in the cracked version. It specifically requires a new version of the BezelServices.framework that is found on the build of 10.4.2 on the new iMacs. It also requires a new version of the DVD-player for DVD-playback.

Furthermore it now works with SallingClicker.

purell16

Oct 28, 2005, 05:50 PM

~Shard~

Oct 28, 2005, 05:55 PM

Just visited the Apple store and the new photobooth is a lot of fun. I hope they release it for other mac though, even though I dont have an iSight...which would make the whole thing kinda pointless...hmm

Yeah, you might want to look into getting an iSight to take full advanatge of that app - it's just a little bit important. ;)