Warning!

[dan-o-mac]

The issue was resolved. It seems like the package was either lost in the mail or taken from my building. I want to apologize to Rod Rod for starting this thread, and let it be known that he came through on his part of the deal. Thank you Rod for coming back and clearing everything up. I wouldn't hesitate to do business with you again, except maybe next time we go with UPS. =)

[reberto]

This thred should be in the buying tips but thanks for the Warning


I just wanted to give you guys a heads up. I was involved in a trade with Rod Rod, my iSight for his Airport Express. Bottom line is he received my iSight Oct. 5 and has failed to deliver on his part, I have yet to receive the Airport or a reply to my private messages and emails. I tried to hold out as long as I could before writing this thread thinking there would be some reasonable explanation, but there is no excuse. Rod Rod continues to log on to macrumors and post, yet does not reply to messages. I just wanted to warn the members macrumors to be careful when dealing with Rod Rod. Dan

[dan-o-mac]

Thanks for the advice Reberto. I just assumed this would be the best place to post the thread. If he decides to do another trade the Marketplace is the place he would do it. If a mod feels the need to move it, so be it.

[ITASOR]

Sorry about bumping this, but did this ever get resolved?

[dan-o-mac]

Sorry about bumping this, but did this ever get resolved?

It was never resolved. It looks like RodRod stopped logging on to MacRumors as of 10/20/05. Oh well what can you do, be more careful next time I suppose.:)

[clayj]

Dang, that sucks... I've dealt with him before and he came through fine then (I sold him a Mac mini 256 MB RAM stick for $25 back in January/February). Sorry to hear this happened.

EDIT: Guess I should note... in our transaction, I had his check in hand BEFORE I sent him his merchandise. But he still seemed very honest... he even posted a kudos for me here.

[Bob_Barker]

Thanks for the warning.

[Peterkro]

Without being dramatic it is possible something has happened to Rodrod maybe in hospital or something,as some people have said he's had straight deals before.

[dan-o-mac]

He mentioned a few MacRumor names as references. I guess it was a different situation being a seller(Bob_Barker, clayj). Being the seller you wait for payment then ship the item, when trading it's just a matter of trust. After you ship your item out, the most you can do is cross your fingers and hope the other person your dealing with is on point and honest. Thanks for the condolences guy!

[dan-o-mac]

Without being dramatic it is possible something has happened to Rodrod maybe in hospital or something,as some people have said he's had straight deals before.

That's what I thought at first, but he continued to log on and post on MacRumors while ignoring my private messages and emails for at least 2 weeks after he recieved my iSight.

[Daveway]

Without being dramatic it is possible something has happened to Rodrod maybe in hospital or something,as some people have said he's had straight deals before.

If he can still log into MR, he can still send an email or PM explaining his situation.;)

[Peterkro]

Thanks for the condolences guy!

I don't know if that was aimed at me or not,the truth is of course I feel sorry for you if you've been ripped off.I was just pointing out there may be other reasons for what happened.

[ITASOR]

Man, that stinks. I read many good things about him, and I would have been one to do a trade with him as well. It seems a "waste" for someone to post thousands of times on a forum, and then do a scam to get what, $100?

This may be a long shot, and a VERY dirty plan, but maybe he figured he was done posting on MR, so he was going to do a scam before he leaves. :mad: :( :mad: :eek:

Dan-o-mac, if you know his address, send him a letter. I don't know how old he is, but maybe his wife or parent or someone will read it. :)

[dan-o-mac]

I don't know if that was aimed at me or not,the truth is of course I feel sorry for you if you've been ripped off.I was just pointing out there may be other reasons for what happened.

Actually that was meant for clayj and bob barker, I just forgot the "s" in guys. So to all, thanks for the condolences.

[dan-o-mac]

Man, that stinks. I read many good things about him, and I would have been one to do a trade with him as well. It seems a "waste" for someone to post thousands of times on a forum, and then do a scam to get what, $100?

This may be a long shot, and a VERY dirty plan, but maybe he figured he was done posting on MR, so he was going to do a scam before he leaves. :mad: :( :mad: :eek:

Dan-o-mac, if you know his address, send him a letter. I don't know how old he is, but maybe his wife or parent or someone will read it. :)

I saw his post count also and I didn't get it either, why would an active member just stop posting for an iSight, Powerbook maybe(not that I would wish that on anyone). You could be right maybe he decided to cashout, but like I said before why do it for an iSight, it makes no sense. I think I will take your suggestion and write a letter or two. Thanks for the Idea ITASOR.

[reberto]

you can IM him at murad2 . He is off right now but he is on often

[dan-o-mac]

you can IM him at murad2 . He is off right now but he is on often

I tried that too, it looks like he's ducking me. I guess he knows my s/n from the emails I've sent. Well Everybody has his AOL IM feel free to send him a message for me! :D

[ITASOR]

feel free to send him a message for me! :D

;) :cool:

[maya]

You have his home address, I say if he doesn't answer your emails or give some sort of explanation, then REPORT him to the authorities. You get what you put yourself into. ;) :)

[ITASOR]

dan-o-mac

When you send a letter don't put his name on the address (on the envelope) so that someone else in the house will open it rather than him.

Put a return address of a friend or someone else's house. If I still had my P.O. Box, I'd let you use that. Maybe someone else has an address they can let you use.

Put:

Current Resident
His address
his address
his address


:)

[RGunner]

and only IF.. and you have kept proof, what Rod Rod did is considered Mail Fraud, which is Federal Crime. I suggest you take the time and call his local Police Department and give them the information.

If you look the other way, then more Rod Rod's will surface which hurts us all.

[lilstewart]

I tried that too, it looks like he's ducking me. I guess he knows my s/n from the emails I've sent. Well Everybody has his AOL IM feel free to send him a message for me! :D
Will do ;)

[dan-o-mac]

You have his home address, I say if he doesn't answer your emails or give some sort of explanation, then REPORT him to the authorities. You get what you put yourself into. ;) :)

I haven't decided if I want to go that route. I will write him first explaining that I will go to the authorities if he does not respond to me. I hesitate to go that route because I know first hand that having any kind of criminal record can come back to haunt you in the future.

[dan-o-mac]

and only IF.. and you have kept proof, what Rod Rod did is considered Mail Fraud, which is Federal Crime. I suggest you take the time and call his local Police Department and give them the information.

If you look the other way, then more Rod Rod's will surface which hurts us all.

I do have all the private message from the trade. like I said before I am unsure if I want to go that route. I will give him some more time to respond.

[lilstewart]

I do have all the private message from the trade. like I said before I am unsure if I want to go that route. I will give him some more time to respond.
How long have you waited?

[gwuMACaddict]

How long have you waited?

he got the isight on oct 5, then he stopped loging in to mr on 10/20/05

info from reading the thread

[dan-o-mac]

How long have you waited?

He received my iSight Oct. 5 and stopped logging on to MacRumors Oct. 20

[reberto]

dan'. Here is the tracking #. I'm on IM with him now and here is the # 0305 2200 0001 4084 7781

[ChrisFromCanada]

Just in case anyone was wondering usps.com reports:

Label/Receipt Number: 0305 2200 0001 4084 7781
Status: Delivered

Your item was delivered at 8:11 am on October 24, 2005 in BROOKLYN, NY 11214.

[reberto]

AIM IM with murad2
7:59 PM
murad2: hi
Andrew Holst: everyone on macrumors is mad at you
murad2: yeah it sucks
murad2: I sent that dude his thing
8:00 PM
Andrew Holst: where is dan-o-macs thing. You got his iSight
murad2: I sent it to him
Andrew Holst: It should have gotten to him by now. did you get it insured
murad2: I'll go get the delivery confirmation number
murad2: one minute
Andrew Holst: k
murad2: 0305 2200 0001 4084 7781
murad2: usps
Andrew Holst: i'm checking it
murad2: me too
Andrew Holst: I'm trying to help him out
murad2: I understand
Andrew Holst: trying to make it all good
murad2: thanks
murad2: well it says it got there in brooklyn on october 24
murad2: at 8:11 am
murad2: I sent it on priority mail
Andrew Holst: I don't know what his problem is. It says its there
Andrew Holst: Are you sure it was the right address?
murad2: maybe he figures I was a jerk so he could be a jerk back
murad2: yes, [address removed]
Andrew Holst: hmmm. Maybe he just wants to complain.
8:05 PM
murad2: yeah I can understand his frustration
murad2: and it was totally my mistake for not communicating
murad2: however, trying to claim that the airport express and firewire cable didn't get to him is not right either
Andrew Holst: He says you have not responded to his PM's.
murad2: I haven't even gotten on macrumors in the past few weeks.
Andrew Holst: you should go back. I will back you up if anyone try's to turn you away
murad2: did they ban me or something
Andrew Holst: try and log in. They shouldn't have
murad2: ok thanks
murad2: I'm glad you're trying to help
Andrew Holst: no prob'
Andrew Holst: You were a good user. Then dan' has to make that thred. Then he got people to get mad at you.
murad2: I didn't know he made a new thread about me
murad2: oh well, my rep is in the toilet
murad2: I wouldn't mind if you put this chat log in there or wherever
Andrew Holst: here is the link: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=156547
murad2: thanks
Andrew Holst: yeah, I will put it up.
murad2: thanks
8:10 PM
Andrew Holst: no problem!
murad2: this is just too bad that he'd continue this stuff after oct 24. before that (like the date of his original post), I can understand.. but after oct 24, it's just sort of surprising
murad2: no wonder he said "I haven't decided if I want to go that route" with respect to the mail fraud idea maya had
Andrew Holst: yeah.He should have delt with you first before going on MR and addressing this issue
murad2: to be fair, I think he'd say that he tried that
murad2: but this business of posting after oct 24 that he still hadn't received it, or at least letting on that he hadn't, well that part is just odd
8:15 PM
Andrew Holst: yeah. You still should come back on MR and PM him.
murad2: ok will do
Andrew Holst: cya
murad2: thanks, later


In all fairness, I am neutral on this.

[zach]

Well, someone or something's lying.

[reberto]

Well, someone or something's lying.

Tracking numbers don't lie

[bokdol]

i think someone in his building stole it. did it need a signature/name confirmation? thats the best way to check. then you know who picked it up. i lost a package because it was sent to a different house and we confirmed it because the signiture/name was someone elses.

[bokdol]

Tracking numbers don't lie

but packages can be delivered to the wrong place.

[mkaake]

but packages can be delivered to the wrong place.

true. but people can also carry something on longer than what's really happening when they're pissed off too...

which is what methinks is happening here. wonderful thing, the internet is. it makes for a very convincing soap box, but boy does it suck when it turns around an bites you in the butt...

[mac-er]

Rod Rod has a few inconsistencies with his IM log there.

At the beginning he says:

Andrew Holst: everyone on macrumors is mad at you
murad2: yeah it sucks
murad2: I sent that dude his thing

Then, near the middle of the thread he says he hasn't logged onto MacRumors in awhile.

If he hasn't logged onto MacRumors in awhile, how does he know that everyone at MR is mad at him and that the IM from Andrew is about him sending "that dude his thing". If he hadn't logged onto MR in awhile, he wouldn't know why everyone is mad at him.

In addition, if you had mailed the thing, why wouldn't you respond to IMs and emails (you don't have to log onto MR for that).

[reberto]

Rod Rod has a few inconsistencies with his IM log there.

At the beginning he says:


Then, near the middle of the thread he says he hasn't logged onto MacRumors in awhile.

If he hasn't logged onto MacRumors in awhile, how does he know that everyone at MR is mad at him and that the IM from Andrew is about him sending "that dude his thing". If he hadn't logged onto MR in awhile, he wouldn't know why everyone is mad at him.

In addition, if you had mailed the thing, why wouldn't you respond to IMs and emails (you don't have to log onto MR for that).

He can still look at the fourms and not login. Also, dan' said he stopped responding after a while.

[heartsglory]

I just hope and pray that this person, whoever is lying, doesn't ruin it for those who may be thinking about selling/buying/whatever here. This is a GREAT place to meet some good, honest people with some very SWEET @$$ deals!

[Chrispy]

Sounds like an issue with the mail. I know at my dorm I have to watch like a hawk when I know things are coming becuase we have had issues with theft in the past :mad:

[heartsglory]

I am currently a student and you wouldn't believe the amount of stuff that gets stolen on a daily basis. In fact, someone stole a laptop from one student in one building and sold it, get this, on Ebay to another student on campus in another dorm building!:eek:

[rickvanr]

Hope this gets resolved, but geez.. you guys sound like high school girls at times.

[mbl42]

Hope this gets resolved, but geez.. you guys sound like high school girls at times.

Maybe they are high school girls. :p

[dan-o-mac]

Well, someone or something's lying.

Actually no one is lying, I believe the fault is with the post office or someone in my building stole the package.

[CanadaRAM]

Sounds like an issue with the mail.
No, it's an issue with not replying to communication.

How it should have gone - this is like, a 2 minutes-to-resolution thing:

1) Hey, I haven't received the item! I expected it by now.
2) I sent it Registered Mail on XX date with number YY
1) OK I'll check with USPS -- they say it was delivered!
2) Yeah that's what they tell me
1) It never was
2) OK I'll start a shipping insurance claim with USPS 'coz I insured it and requested registered with signature like we agreed
1) Thanks buddy
2) No problem

and possibly
1) I checked with the other residents here and one of them signed for it and forgot to give it to me (the @$$) no problems.

or

2) USPS sent me a copy of the signature they got on delivery -- here's a copy for you -- I'm sorry but it looks like the problem was after it was delivered - sorry I can't help any further

or

2) USPS admitted their loss and will pay out the claim in 30 days and I'll send it to you.

[dan-o-mac]

Well here's an update on the whole situation. I would like to let it be know that Rod Rod did send the package Oct. 21 and it was delivered Oct. 24. The problem is I did not receive the package. Someone from my building might have taken the package or the post office delivered to the wrong address. This thread could have all been easily avoided with a few PM's from Rod Rod, but I'm glad he was a stand up guy and sent the package as promised. Now a few questions, where do I go from here? Has anyone had this happen, what should be my next step, do I go to the local post office with the delivery number? I also want to thank all who have helped in this situation, I'm glad to be a part of MacRumors. Dan

[dan-o-mac]

No, it's an issue with not replying to communication.

How it should have gone - this is like, a 2 minutes-to-resolution thing:

1) Hey, I haven't received the item! I expected it by now.
2) I sent it Registered Mail on XX date with number YY
1) OK I'll check with USPS -- they say it was delivered!
2) Yeah that's what they tell me
1) It never was
2) OK I'll start a shipping insurance claim with USPS 'coz I insured it and requested registered with signature like we agreed
1) Thanks buddy
2) No problem

and possibly
1) I checked with the other residents here and one of them signed for it and forgot to give it to me (the @$$) no problems.

or

2) USPS sent me a copy of the signature they got on delivery -- here's a copy for you -- I'm sorry but it looks like the problem was after it was delivered - sorry I can't help any further

or

2) USPS admitted their loss and will pay out the claim in 30 days and I'll send it to you.

Your absolutely right it was simple lack of communication. Do you know who should contact USPS, Rod Rod or me?

[heartsglory]

You can go to the post office with the number they should be able to tell you who signed for the package. If there was no signature involved, see where it was delivered if that's possible. As far as I know, if it was deliverede to the wrong address, the post office is responsible. If it was signed for by the wrong person, the person who signed for it has now committed fraud and you can now go to the police. It might not be a bad idea to contact the sender to see if you can get the serial number and file a description with serial number to the police.

[CanadaRAM]

Your absolutely right it was simple lack of communication. Do you know who should contact USPS, Rod Rod or me?
The recipient should check with their local PO to see if it can be tracked down loacally. If there is an insurance claim, however, it must be initiated by the sender, and it is the sender who would get paid the claim if approved.

[dan-o-mac]

You can go to the post office with the number they should be able to tell you who signed for the package. If there was no signature involved, see where it was delivered if that's possible. As far as I know, if it was deliverede to the wrong address, the post office is responsible. If it was signed for by the wrong person, the person who signed for it has now committed fraud and you can now go to the police. It might not be a bad idea to contact the sender to see if you can get the serial number and file a description with serial number to the police.

Thanks for the tips! I will go to the post office in the morning and see what they say. I will also see if anyone in my building happened to "forget" to give it to me. Once again thanks for the help.

[heartsglory]

Good luck on the finding out! :D

[keysersoze]

AAAAHHHHH I love it when everyone is happy

:D

[ITASOR]

Wow, glad you all made a little progress. Rod Rod, I don't think your rep is in the toilet, maybe if you posted on here and explained a little, you could gain most of it back! :)

[Rod Rod]

ITASOR, thanks for the kind and encouraging words.

dan-o-mac, of course I apologized via PM but please let me do so publically. I'm sorry for all the trouble. I'll check this thread and my PMs to find out how things turn out at the post office tomorrow.

[liketom]

ITASOR, thanks for the kind and encouraging words.

dan-o-mac, of course I apologized via PM but please let me do so publically. I'm sorry for all the trouble. I'll check this thread and my PMs to find out how things turn out at the post office tomorrow.
respect for coming back , many would have shy'd away from all this

hope it all gets sorted soon :)

[ITASOR]

ITASOR, thanks for the kind and encouraging words.

dan-o-mac, of course I apologized via PM but please let me do so publically. I'm sorry for all the trouble. I'll check this thread and my PMs to find out how things turn out at the post office tomorrow.

Welcome.

We've been talking on AIM, Rod Rod seems like a great guy! Good luck at the post office. Be persistent!

[aquajet]

Sorry to sound harsh, but enough with the niceties already. Somebody's lack of patience resulted in the damage to someone's reputation, and that person ought to be ashamed. Any number of things could happen to result in a situation like this, and everybody involved needs to have a bit more patience and quit being so paranoid.

[Calvinatir]

Sorry to sound harsh, but enough with the niceties already. Somebody's lack of patience resulted in the damage to someone's reputation, and that person ought to be ashamed. Any number of things could happen to result in a situation like this, and everybody involved needs to have a bit more patience and quit being so paranoid.


someone needs to pull the fork out of their @$$

[ReanimationLP]

ITASOR, thanks for the kind and encouraging words.

dan-o-mac, of course I apologized via PM but please let me do so publically. I'm sorry for all the trouble. I'll check this thread and my PMs to find out how things turn out at the post office tomorrow.

Going to the Pos Ice?

Heh. The Post Office near me has the T and the Off part lightbulbs are dead. And have been dead for a LONG time.

Our taxdollars at work eh?

[dan-o-mac]

Sorry to sound harsh, but enough with the niceties already. Somebody's lack of patience resulted in the damage to someone's reputation, and that person ought to be ashamed. Any number of things could happen to result in a situation like this, and everybody involved needs to have a bit more patience and quit being so paranoid.

:rolleyes: Whatever! I have no reason to be ashamed. I felt I had been patient enough, it's been over 1 month since I heard from Rod Rod and I might not have heard from him at all if a few members had not intervened, Rod might have just assumed I received the package. Rod apologized for taking so long and I apologized for starting the thread. here's the Message I sent to Rod.

"Apology accepted. I have yet to receive the package. I will contact everyone on my building, and also go to the local post office to see what they can do. I want to apologize also for starting that thread about you, I had no way of knowing whether you had sent the package, I tried to hold out for as long as I could. The thread I started was on Oct. 22 and It looks like you sent the package Oct. 21, you should have sent me some kind of notice that way we could have avoided all this. I will try to clear everything up in the marketplace forum." Dan

[aquajet]

someone needs to pull the fork out of their @$$

Nope, no fork here.:rolleyes: I just tell the truth how I see it.

Whatever! I have no reason to be ashamed. I felt I had been patient enough, it's been over 1 month since I heard from Rod Rod and I might not have heard from him at all if a few members had not intervened, Rod might have just assumed I received the package. Rod apologized for taking so long and I apologized for starting the thread. here's the Message I sent to Rod.

Well, at least you both feel better about it. If I were involved, I think I'd prefer the mods delete the whole thread. That seems most appropriate IMO.

[mkaake]

Nope, no fork here.:rolleyes: I just tell the truth how I see it.



Well, at least you both feel better about it. If I were involved, I think I'd prefer the mods delete the whole thread. That seems most appropriate IMO.

Well, good thing you're not involved, and you're not a mod.

I've been following this for a while, and if the thread had been deleted... depending on what point it happened at, I would have had a very sour opinion of one or both of the involved parties. It was started for a good purpose, and it's serving even more of a purpose now that it's still here.

Glad everything worked out guys :)

[Calvinatir]

Well, good thing you're not involved, and you're not a mod.



He's probably on the rag

[Mechcozmo]

Thanks for the tips! I will go to the post office in the morning and see what they say. I will also see if anyone in my building happened to "forget" to give it to me. Once again thanks for the help.

Make a sign... "WANTED: Buggy iSight camera. Known to cause overheating and melting of componenets. Is not to be plugged into a computer. Please return to _________"

Think you'll get it back?
:D

[aquajet]

He's probably on the rag

oh whatever b****:p