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MacRumors
Apr 3, 2013, 02:25 PM
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Just two weeks after Sapphire introduced the Radeon HD 7950 Mac Edition graphics card (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/19/sapphire-launches-radeon-hd-7950-mac-edition-graphics-card-for-mac-pro/) for the Mac Pro, EVGA today announced (http://hexus.net/tech/items/graphics/53757-evga-launches-evga-geforce-gtx-680-mac-edition/) the launch of its GeForce GTX 680 Mac Edition (http://www.evga.com/articles/00730/). Based on the popular year-old card for PCs, the new GeForce GTX 680 Mac Edition carries 2 GB of GDDR5 memory and adds another high-end graphics option for current Mac Pro users.The EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Mac Edition graphics card provides many new and key features:

1. NVIDIA GPU Boost Technology - Dynamically maximises clock speeds to push performance to new levels and bring out the best in every game.
2. Support for four concurrent displays; two dual-link DVI connectors, HDMI and DisplayPort 1.1
3. NVIDIA SMX Engine - Brand new processing engine which delivers twice the performance/watt compared to previous generations.
4. NVIDIA CUDA Technology - Unlocks the power of the GPU's processor cores to accelerate the most demanding tasks such as video transcoding, physics simulation, ray tracing and more.
5. OpenGL 3.2 (4.3 in Windows) Support - Support for the most widely-used open graphics standard in the world.
6. OpenCL Support - Supports the latest standards in GPGPU computing.
7. Boot Camp Support - Full support for Microsoft Windows operating system in Apple Boot Camp.http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/04/evga_gtx_680_mac.jpg
EVGA did not announce pricing or a launch date in its press release, but Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130912) is currently listing a $599.99 price tag and a launch date of April 8. The is compatible with Early 2008 Mac Pro (MacPro3,1) and newer models with PCI Express 2.0, and requires OS X 10.8.3.

Article Link: EVGA Announces GeForce GTX 680 Mac Edition Graphics Card for Mac Pro (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/03/evga-announces-geforce-gtx-680-mac-edition-graphics-card-for-mac-pro/)



Killerbob
Apr 3, 2013, 02:30 PM
That looks an awful lot like the EVGA GTX680 SC card I have in my MP3,1. If this "Mac Edition" has boot support, I wonder if you could copy the Bios across onto PC versions?

definitive
Apr 3, 2013, 02:31 PM
another money grab attempt by a third party hardware manufacturer

domesposito
Apr 3, 2013, 02:33 PM
With a new Mac Pro on the way, this seems to be nifty timing for a release.

Peace
Apr 3, 2013, 02:34 PM
That looks an awful lot like the EVGA GTX680 SC card I have in my MP3,1. If this "Mac Edition" has boot support, I wonder if you could copy the Bios across onto PC versions?

It supports bootcamp if you have 10.8.3

Killerbob
Apr 3, 2013, 02:37 PM
It supports bootcamp if you have 10.8.3

I know, I am using it right now, but have no boot menu support. Not that it matters much though...

lolkthxbai
Apr 3, 2013, 02:48 PM
The is also compatible with a noun.

keysofanxiety
Apr 3, 2013, 02:48 PM
All this hype, only for Apple to release the new Mac Pro with a soldered graphics card ;)

Torrijos
Apr 3, 2013, 02:53 PM
Are those card really PCIe v2, or are they just saying that because current MacPro offer only PCIe v2?

It would be ridiculous for Apple to release a new MacPro with PCIe v3 and have these cards under perform compared to their normal form (PCIe v3 cards).

Also a lot of these cards have standard support since 10.8.3, allowing Hackintosh builders easy installation, what problems are they trying to solve with these cards beside non standard power cables?

K6-III
Apr 3, 2013, 03:02 PM
Good news, in any case.

LillDrutten
Apr 3, 2013, 03:20 PM
With a new Mac Pro on the way, this seems to be nifty timing for a release.

The next mac pro will use 10.9 and this card might not the optimal for that.

MacsRgr8
Apr 3, 2013, 03:48 PM
This one is said to be compatible with the MacPro 3.1..!!

And I'm expecting my 7950 any day... aarrgghhh

evanhindra
Apr 3, 2013, 03:58 PM
Are those card really PCIe v2, or are they just saying that because current MacPro offer only PCIe v2?

It would be ridiculous for Apple to release a new MacPro with PCIe v3 and have these cards under perform compared to their normal form (PCIe v3 cards).

Also a lot of these cards have standard support since 10.8.3, allowing Hackintosh builders easy installation, what problems are they trying to solve with these cards beside non standard power cables?


I just assume the card is actually PCI-E 3.0, but it's also compatible with PCI-E 2.0 Macs.

Yea, I built a Hackintosh, and using an ASUS GTX680. Zero issue.

OrangeSVTguy
Apr 3, 2013, 03:59 PM
4 monitor support and still no thunderbolt. I'm sure some people would like to eventually use TB displays with their mac pros.

Macsonic
Apr 3, 2013, 04:03 PM
Great News! At least there is still renewed interest in Mac Pros and hope this trend continues. Though a bit pricey at $600 for a 2g card, still something to look forward to and smile. :)

PassiveSmoking
Apr 3, 2013, 04:08 PM
another money grab attempt by a third party hardware manufacturer

Yes, how dare companies try to give us goods and services in exchange for money :)

Seriously though, it's interesting to me that 2 companies released Mac Pro cards in such close proximity. Could this be a sign we're getting an actual new Mac Pro soon?

MacsRgr8
Apr 3, 2013, 04:12 PM
Great News! At least there is still renewed interest in Mac Pros and hope this trend continues. Though a bit pricey at $600 for a 2g card, still something to look forward to and smile. :)

Hmm.. why is it only 2 GB...?

JM-Prod
Apr 3, 2013, 04:18 PM
Hmm.. why is it only 2 GB...?

The 4GB uses a 6-pin and an 8-pin power supply, _officially_ drawing more power than the two 6-pins in the MacPro...

adder7712
Apr 3, 2013, 04:27 PM
The price is a bit steep for a GTX 680.

matixryder
Apr 3, 2013, 05:00 PM
I would to see an official support driver for this card to maximize the performance.

Larry-K
Apr 3, 2013, 05:09 PM
another money grab attempt by a third party hardware manufacturerI think that's called "Capitalism". I'm just glad we're finally getting some choices for Video Cards.

Redneck1089
Apr 3, 2013, 05:11 PM
I wonder if this card will work in PCI-E 2 speeds as opposed to what we're all currently stuck with in bootcamp (PCI-E 1 speeds).

Macsonic
Apr 3, 2013, 05:13 PM
Hmm.. why is it only 2 GB...?

I don't know either. Was hoping it would be 3g at that price. Maybe the manufacturers are considering the power supply usage.

star-affinity
Apr 3, 2013, 05:22 PM
I don't know either. Was hoping it would be 3g at that price. Maybe the manufacturers are considering the power supply usage.

It's the same on the Windows side for the 680.

Edit:
Okay, it seems there's both 2 GB and 4 GB versions of the 680 card for PC.

"5. OpenGL 3.2 (4.3 in Windows) Support - Support for the most widely-used open graphics standard in the world."

This is quite sad. OS X 10.9 maybe?

Mr. Retrofire
Apr 3, 2013, 05:31 PM
...This is quite sad. OS X 10.9 maybe?
Haswell+.

laflores
Apr 3, 2013, 05:49 PM
All this hype, only for Apple to release the new Mac Pro with a soldered graphics card ;)

Haha that's why both Nvidia and AMD are offering new models, it's the last time they will have the chance of making money with the mac pro....

Swift
Apr 3, 2013, 06:00 PM
Mac hasn't rewritten the drivers for this card. As a result, thing monster is half as fast - not as fast as the original - unless you run it in Windows.

tdtran1025
Apr 3, 2013, 07:24 PM
Another confirmation that MP will stay in current form.

Macsonic
Apr 3, 2013, 08:27 PM
Another confirmation that MP will stay in current form.

Good point. I am okay if the new Mac Pro is similar in form and design.

Michael Scrip
Apr 3, 2013, 09:23 PM
I would to see an official support driver for this card to maximize the performance.



Mac hasn't rewritten the drivers for this card. As a result, thing monster is half as fast - not as fast as the original - unless you run it in Windows.

So... EVGA is just selling this card with no drivers?

That kinda sucks.

What makes it "Mac compatible" if it doesn't have drivers?

Michael73
Apr 3, 2013, 09:46 PM
I'm not a huge fan of my 8800GT in my MP 3,1 but with a new MP on the way, I'm not about to plunk down that kind of dough on a 5 year-old machine till I see what Cook & Co. have up their sleeves.

lewdvig
Apr 3, 2013, 10:20 PM
I am bummed that a $450 windows card is $600 for the Mac. I'd pay a $50 premium.

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So... EVGA is just selling this card with no drivers?

That kinda sucks.

What makes it "Mac compatible" if it doesn't have drivers?

EFI firmware and bigger eeprom

deconstruct60
Apr 3, 2013, 10:35 PM
Haha that's why both Nvidia and AMD are offering new models, it's the last time they will have the chance of making money with the mac pro....

Not really. Having an embedded GPU on the Mac Pro's motherboard does not mean it still can't have 4 PCI-e slots. If using a Xeon E5 CPU package there are 40 PCI-e v3.0 lanes. Here is one simple allocation of those.

x16 ___ x16 electrical and physical slot.
x8 ____ x8 electrical and x16 physical slot
x8 ____ embedded GPU. (e.g., AMD 8750M which has x8 v3.0 interface anyway)
x4 ____ x4 electrical and physical slot
x4 ____ ... ditto of the above ....

Since this is PCI-e v3.0 three of the slots ( x16 , x4 , x4 ) have twice the bandwidth as previous three generations of Mac Pros. The x8 v3.0 slot has x16 of v2.0 so no loss in bandwidth from previous gen.

The embedded GPU would be used to "power" a Thunderbolt controller's two DisplayPort inputs.

Note this could be an upside to the 3rd party GPU market if Apple allows for a BTO Mac Pro that comes with four empty slots. Those that want more will buy a 3rd party card.


Even if the Thunderbolt controller siphoned off x4 lanes for the PCI-e connection ( not necessary as C602 IO Hub has x8 v2.0 lanes four of which could be put to TB controller use) still wouldn't loose a slot. The last x4 slot above could be split.

x4 ( v3.0 )
|
PCI-e switch ----> x4 v2.0 speed to TB controller
|
x4 v2.0 speed open slot like current Mac Pro

[ The current Mac Pro's switch the two x4 slots so this is actually a decrease in switched open slots. ]


The only way this could be backsliding is if going with Intel's mainstream desktop versions that can't do more than 4 cores and have integrated graphics. They are capped at just 16 lanes in the case of basic Core i ( or 20 in Xeon E3) case.

What is "bad" there is far more throwing the 20+ PCI-e lanes of bandwidth out the window far more than the presence of an embedded GPU on the motherboard (in this case an integrated one). That's is what would kill the PCI-e card market..... lack of slots with full bandwidth.

Rocketman
Apr 3, 2013, 11:17 PM
Requires 10.8.3 if you rely on internal drivers. Can we run it on prior OS versions with a download of the driver?

RoastingPig
Apr 4, 2013, 01:28 AM
sweeeeeeet.

nerdo
Apr 4, 2013, 01:52 AM
That looks an awful lot like the EVGA GTX680 SC card I have in my MP3,1. If this "Mac Edition" has boot support, I wonder if you could copy the Bios across onto PC versions?

That's what I'm hoping, put a ASUS GTX670 in my Mac Pro, works great with a 30 and 27 inch screen, but it has 4 outputs, one HDMI, one display port and two DVI. Only the DVI works, now I have to use a Black Magic HDMI IO card.

Would be cool if we could either flash it or a new driver would support the 4 outputs. But to be honest, after using a noisy Quadro 4000 for years, just the fact this card is SO quiet already makes me happy.



Also a lot of these cards have standard support since 10.8.3, allowing Hackintosh builders easy installation, what problems are they trying to solve with these cards beside non standard power cables?

The lack of support for all 4 outputs I guess.

adder7712
Apr 4, 2013, 03:27 AM
I don't know either. Was hoping it would be 3g at that price. Maybe the manufacturers are considering the power supply usage.

GTX 680s are either 2GB or 4GB.

Maybe they are limited the choice of a 256-bit memory bus. AMD accomplishes 3GB of video memory with a wider 384-bit memory bus.

Codyak
Apr 4, 2013, 10:37 AM
It would be ridiculous for Apple to release a new MacPro with PCIe v3 and have these cards under perform compared to their normal form (PCIe v3 cards).


It wouldn't really matter for this card anyway, a 680 doesn't even saturate a x16 v2 slot.

Asgorath
Apr 4, 2013, 10:40 AM
Mac hasn't rewritten the drivers for this card. As a result, thing monster is half as fast - not as fast as the original - unless you run it in Windows.

The OpenGL version that can be supported is controlled by the Apple OpenGL framework, not NVIDIA. The GPU can support DX11/GL4 features like tessellation, but if Apple doesn't expose the functionality at the framework level, there's nothing anyone else can do about it.

So... EVGA is just selling this card with no drivers?

That kinda sucks.

What makes it "Mac compatible" if it doesn't have drivers?

The card has Mac driver support. Support for a GPU and support for OpenGL features/versions are two entirely different things. In fact, the 680s have been working under Mac OS X for quite some time now, just not in any official capacity.

Drinahn
Apr 4, 2013, 10:42 AM
This one is said to be compatible with the MacPro 3.1..!!

And I'm expecting my 7950 any day... aarrgghhh

This is more expensive and has 1GB less vram. I think you're still in a better place with the Radeon.

Asgorath
Apr 4, 2013, 10:43 AM
It wouldn't really matter for this card anyway, a 680 doesn't even saturate a x16 v2 slot.

This is very much dependent on the workload, and there are definitely workloads that will saturate the PCIe bus. Most games are only limited by bus transfers when they are first loading (i.e. during the loading screen) but after that, all their resources are on the GPU. Other workloads, such as film editing or other GPGPU things where the data set can't entirely fit in the GPU's memory will usually be limited by bus transfers, since the data needs to be streamed down to the GPU and then streamed back when it's done.

Squilly
Apr 4, 2013, 10:44 AM
Aren't they a little late? The 700 series is already making it's debut...

mrxak
Apr 4, 2013, 10:44 AM
I'm really hoping Apple gets its act together and gets OpenGL parity with Windows ASAP.

Codyak
Apr 4, 2013, 11:06 AM
This is very much dependent on the workload, and there are definitely workloads that will saturate the PCIe bus. Most games are only limited by bus transfers when they are first loading (i.e. during the loading screen) but after that, all their resources are on the GPU. Other workloads, such as film editing or other GPGPU things where the data set can't entirely fit in the GPU's memory will usually be limited by bus transfers, since the data needs to be streamed down to the GPU and then streamed back when it's done.

You're correct, I shouldn't have assumed he just meant games.

AZREOSpecialist
Apr 4, 2013, 12:51 PM
Another confirmation that MP will stay in current form.

No, it's confirmation that a third-party company has released a graphics card compatible with all existing Mac Pros. That's all, nothing else. You think Apple went to these companies and said "hey, we are going to keep the Mac Pro the same and we are letting you know so that you can release your graphics card"?

ROTFL!

multipasser
Apr 4, 2013, 12:57 PM
So what exisiting pc gtx 680 cards can you just insert a macpro and they work without installing drivers? (just no bootscreen?)

Bloodklot
Apr 4, 2013, 01:28 PM
That looks an awful lot like the EVGA GTX680 SC card I have in my MP3,1. If this "Mac Edition" has boot support, I wonder if you could copy the Bios across onto PC versions?

You have no boot menu because the card you currently have in your MP 3,1 is a PC card that recently is supported but because PC cards lack EFI rom, you get no boot menu. This card is made for Mac so yes, with this card you would get boot menu and bootcamp support.

But I am soooo excited that we have a mac supported Nvidia card. I was kinda bummed when the 7950 came out.... two radeons in a row??? I need the CUDA POOOOWER without having to go Quadro.

MacsRgr8
Apr 4, 2013, 02:10 PM
This is more expensive and has 1GB less vram. I think you're still in a better place with the Radeon.

I hope so.
I will be testing it in X-Plane 10 as the my current 5870 has serious performance issues with it.

Also, the Radeon has mini-DisplayPort built-in which the GeForce has not.

I'm also wondering if my Mac Pro 2008 will be CPU bound instead of GPU bound once the 7950 is inside it.
I hope there will be some comparison tests with the GeForce in older Mac Pro's.

Still, it's gr8 we now have options!!! :cool:

xSinghx
Apr 4, 2013, 02:43 PM
So for running games in bootcamp which has more power the new AMD card with 3gb ram or this nVidia card with 2. I'm sure they have different clock speeds despite the difference in ram but which is better and does the 1gb of ram make much of a difference?

Colpeas
Apr 4, 2013, 04:32 PM
No Mini DisplayPort??? :eek:

Asgorath
Apr 4, 2013, 05:05 PM
This is more expensive and has 1GB less vram. I think you're still in a better place with the Radeon.

Results suggest otherwise:

http://www.barefeats.com/gpu7950c.html

Granted, that's with the non-Mac version of the GTX 680, but there's no reason to think the official Mac edition will perform any differently.

xSinghx
Apr 4, 2013, 07:37 PM
Results suggest otherwise:

http://www.barefeats.com/gpu7950c.html

Granted, that's with the non-Mac version of the GTX 680, but there's no reason to think the official Mac edition will perform any differently.

this makes me want the 680c now :/

skyline r34
Apr 4, 2013, 09:31 PM
Which one is the better buy

Sapphire 7950

or

EVGA 680GTX

I'm glad that I didn't rush out and buy the 7950 but I still want to wait a bit more and see what Apple will come out with, How do you guys feel about the two cards, and if your going to buy a card today which one will you choose?

Louis Wu
Apr 5, 2013, 12:05 AM
No Mini DisplayPort??? :eek:

Well, the EVGA spec sheet says the card ships with a displayport to minidisplayport adaptor, so perhaps it'll drive an apple cinema display...

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Which one is the better buy

Sapphire 7950

or

EVGA 680GTX

I'm glad that I didn't rush out and buy the 7950 but I still want to wait a bit more and see what Apple will come out with, How do you guys feel about the two cards, and if your going to buy a card today which one will you choose?

my vote goes for the EVGA as it supports 4 concurrent displays and the Sapphire only supports 2. I run 3 on my system and right now I use a Diamond displaylink USB adaptor to drive one display but it isn't ideal...

\-V-/
Apr 5, 2013, 12:11 AM
What's with all the recent Mac-compatible GPUs? This makes me quite happy.

Sy7ygy
Apr 5, 2013, 02:25 AM
The sincere lack of technological knowledge here astounds me but also reminds me that Apple is not just a computer company, but more peripheral.

Thessman
Apr 5, 2013, 08:18 AM
The sincere lack of technological knowledge here astounds me but also reminds me that Apple is not just a computer company, but more peripheral.

Please, do enlighten us. That is what we are here for anyway!

MagnusVonMagnum
Apr 5, 2013, 03:06 PM
It's the same on the Windows side for the 680.

Edit:
Okay, it seems there's both 2 GB and 4 GB versions of the 680 card for PC.

"5. OpenGL 3.2 (4.3 in Windows) Support - Support for the most widely-used open graphics standard in the world."

This is quite sad. OS X 10.9 maybe?

It IS sad given the total lack of support of most games for OpenGL in Windows and YET Windows still has better OpenGL support than the Mac does when it's the Mac's primary 3D system. There is simply NO EXCUSE for Apple, IMO. They're so busy making iPads they don't (and really never have for a LONG time) given a crap about modern computer standards. Behind on USB 3, behind on OpenGL, behind on the Mac Pro PERIOD.... awful, just AWFUL computer support anymore.

djacopille
Apr 5, 2013, 08:02 PM
It doesn't take years to put a motherboard in a box - no matter how nicely you CNC mill the box.

Apple gave up years ago by not putting enough people on the Mac Pro to actually deliver anything. Ever.

Apple needs to make giving up official. People will move on to PCs and everyone will be better for it.

Even Apple.

Bubba Satori
Apr 6, 2013, 06:13 AM
another money grab attempt by a third party hardware manufacturer

A business trying to make money on a niche product that might sell a few thousand units?
Who do they think they are? They should be ashamed of themselves.
Money grubbing bastiges. I suppose they want hundreds of billions in offshore bank accounts, too.

Kissaragi
Apr 6, 2013, 07:28 AM
The sincere lack of technological knowledge here astounds me but also reminds me that Apple is not just a computer company, but more peripheral.

Thank goodness your here to wow us with your superior technological knowledge! Please help us Sy7ygy!

Plutonius
Apr 6, 2013, 10:03 AM
What's with all the recent Mac-compatible GPUs? This makes me quite happy.

They need them for the new Mac Pros.

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It doesn't take years to put a motherboard in a box - no matter how nicely you CNC mill the box.

Apple gave up years ago by not putting enough people on the Mac Pro to actually deliver anything. Ever.

Apple needs to make giving up official. People will move on to PCs and everyone will be better for it.

Even Apple.

Use what you like and get a PC if you want / need one. Likewise, let other people get what they want and don't assume it's a PC.

Kissaragi
Apr 6, 2013, 06:32 PM
The 680 is clearly faster but it just costs so much more than the already expensive 7950. I have to say im not regretting my purchase of the ati card.

Setmose
Apr 7, 2013, 01:33 PM
So for running games in bootcamp which has more power the new AMD card with 3gb ram or this nVidia card with 2. I'm sure they have different clock speeds despite the difference in ram but which is better and does the 1gb of ram make much of a difference?

Just keep tracking Barefeats. You'll have all the decision graphs you need in short order. :apple:

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It doesn't take years to put a motherboard in a box - no matter how nicely you CNC mill the box.

Apple gave up years ago by not putting enough people on the Mac Pro to actually deliver anything. Ever.

Apple needs to make giving up official. People will move on to PCs and everyone will be better for it.

Even Apple.

Nobody cares what you think.

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2-cents:

I've always felt that ATI/AMD has placed better attention-to-detail in the areas of DVD / BluRay playback than Nvidia. HDMI support for example. It's not a gaming issue, but still something to think about when plunking down major cash for one of these bricks. :apple:

Setmose
Apr 7, 2013, 02:26 PM
According to Tom's Hardware, the Mac Edition is virtually identical to the reference PC edition:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Mac-Edition-gtx-680-GeForce,21851.html

Setmose
Apr 7, 2013, 02:53 PM
From EVGA Press Release:

Known for offering value and performance, as well as exemplary customer service, EVGA is recognised through customer loyalty and the highest levels in customer satisfaction. In addition to the expanded product lines, consumers and channel partners will also benefit from increased sales and technical support programmes:
1. Global Warranty No registration required, 3 Year Standard warranty with upgraded warranties available. Find out about our latest updates this month that will better serve our community (introduced in response to your feedback) at: eu.evga.com/articles/00735/
2. EVGA proprietary Advanced RMA (EAR) service to enable customers to receive a replacement card before sending the defective product back to EVGA.

MagnusVonMagnum
Apr 7, 2013, 02:58 PM
Nobody cares what you think.


Gee, you must be a mind-reader to know that NOBODY cares. :rolleyes:

I happen to agree with his comment for the most part. Apple has shown zero interest in the Mac Pro for many years now. Continuing to sell what for the price is basically a total outdated POS (worth less than half of what it sells for as if it's just as valuable as when that model first came out and containing exactly NONE of the recent updates Apple has provided for ALL other models. I mean come on, how hard would have been for them to just add USB 3 support even? It's supposed to be their most powerful computer and it's over 4 years out of date now. They didn't listen to what most of their true pro customers wanted the last time they did update even. Apple is beyond ignoring the Mac Pro. They're actually showing CONTEMPT for it, IMO. Either start doing that model right or announce it's been abandoned along with most of the pro market.

xbjllb
Apr 24, 2013, 05:43 PM
Requires 10.8.3 if you rely on internal drivers. Can we run it on prior OS versions with a download of the driver?

With as much as Apple has screwed up the OS since Snow Leopard, not likely.

:apple:

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Gee, you must be a mind-reader to know that NOBODY cares. :rolleyes:

I happen to agree with his comment for the most part.... ....Either start doing that model right or announce it's been abandoned along with most of the pro market.

That ship sailed a VERY long time ago...

:apple:

MrNomNoms
Apr 25, 2013, 02:33 AM
I think that's called "Capitalism". I'm just glad we're finally getting some choices for Video Cards.

It's actually called 'the freemarket' given that capitalism merely that the means of production are in private ownership - you can have a regulated but capitalist economy.

Larry-K
Apr 26, 2013, 03:11 AM
It's actually called 'the freemarket' given that capitalism merely that the means of production are in private ownership - you can have a regulated but capitalist economy.I'm pretty sure that's two words, and there's really no such thing as the "Free Market", certainly not in this country.

But if Karl Marx comes up with a good video card with OSX drivers I'll buy it.

cpnotebook80
Apr 27, 2013, 09:19 AM
I hope so.
I will be testing it in X-Plane 10 as the my current 5870 has serious performance issues with it.

Also, the Radeon has mini-DisplayPort built-in which the GeForce has not.

I'm also wondering if my Mac Pro 2008 will be CPU bound instead of GPU bound once the 7950 is inside it.
I hope there will be some comparison tests with the GeForce in older Mac Pro's.

Still, it's gr8 we now have options!!! :cool:

Let me know how it goes. I have a radeon 4870 512mb in my MP 3,1 so wanting to upgrade too. Xplane for now works ok.

jjjoseph
Mar 22, 2014, 07:05 PM
Can anyone confirm they have a GTX 680 MAC edition working with BOOTCAMP, I get a blackscreen/crash during BOOTCAMP setup. Everytime. Wondering if people have a secret to get it to work, of if they know for certain it works.

Thanks.