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wattage
Oct 23, 2005, 10:06 AM
I am going to upgrade my pbook 667 Mhz to 768 ram(currently 512) and a new hard drive. Will my setup handle a 7200 rpm hard drive or should I just stick with something like 80-100 gig 5400? Also, Seagate versus Hitachi hard drive??

slooksterPSV
Oct 23, 2005, 10:20 AM
I am going to upgrade my pbook 667 Mhz to 768 ram(currently 512) and a new hard drive. Will my setup handle a 7200 rpm hard drive or should I just stick with something like 80-100 gig 5400? Also, Seagate versus Hitachi hard drive??
the 7200 RPM makes no difference whether a computer can use it or not. All that means is when it's looking for the data on the hard drive, or rolling data out, it's spinning at 7200 RPMs. So you could even use a 10,000 RPM if they had it out. As for Seagate vss Hitachi? Do some homework, see which has better seek time, better performance, better cache (one may have 2MB, the other may have 8MB) - Good luck

Sweetfeld28
Oct 23, 2005, 10:55 AM
Personally, i would say that if you put a 7200rpm drive in your powerbook, expect your pbook to generate a lot of heat, or get really warm. Also, i have used three different brands of laptop drives: IBM, Hitachi, and at the moment i forget what is in the iBook. But i have never had any problems with the IBM/Hitachi brands. Either of those two would be what i would choose.

Doesn't IBM make the drives for Hitachi, i thought i read somewhere that IBM sold the drives, or that part of the business to Hitachi. They are essentially the same drives, just relabeled.

MarkCollette
Oct 23, 2005, 12:06 PM
If it were a desktop, then I'd say go for the 7200 rpm, but since it's a notebook, I'd go for the 5400 rpm. Just make sure you get 8 MB cache in the hard drive.

And doesn't Seagate have a much better warrantee than any other hard drive manufacturer? I'd take that as a sign to go with them.

stoid
Oct 23, 2005, 12:10 PM
I just upgraded my laptop to a 100GB 7200 RPM drive from the original 60GB 4200 RPM drive. It's no louder, no hotter, and uses no more battery life. The only difference I notice is that my laptop runs faster and has more storage, absolutely no negative side-effects.

Sweetfeld28
Oct 23, 2005, 12:13 PM
If it were a desktop, then I'd say go for the 7200 rpm, but since it's a notebook, I'd go for the 5400 rpm. Just make sure you get 8 MB cache in the hard drive.

And doesn't Seagate have a much better warrantee than any other hard drive manufacturer? I'd take that as a sign to go with them.


What are Seagates Warrenties? I though Western Digital had the best HD warrenties 3-5 years [they are the non-OEM drives though, which generally cost a lot more]. I bought a drive off of ebay a couple of years ago [80gb 8mb cache] for like $50. It failed after a year or so, i looked its warrenty up on WD's site. It turned out it was still covered, and was three years old. So, i filled out a RMA on the site, and they shipped one to me the next day.

Sweetfeld28
Oct 23, 2005, 12:17 PM
I just upgraded my laptop to a 100GB 7200 RPM drive from the original 60GB 4200 RPM drive. It's no louder, no hotter, and uses no more battery life. The only difference I notice is that my laptop runs faster and has more storage, absolutely no negative side-effects.


If you don't mind me asking what Laptop do you have?

I was just wondering because i only noticed my iBook to get really hot sometimes. Maybe your laptop is better at dissipating the heat?

stoid
Oct 23, 2005, 12:20 PM
If you don't mind me asking what Laptop do you have?

I was just wondering because i only noticed my iBook to get really hot sometimes. Maybe your laptop is better at dissipating the heat?

I've got a two year old 15 inch PowerBook, the higher end of the first aluminum 15 inch PowerBook revision. It does get hot when accessing the drive heavily, but no hotter than it did with the 4200 RPM drive.

slooksterPSV
Oct 23, 2005, 12:38 PM
If you could get WD that would be the best. Wester Digital makes the best Hard Drives in the world. I still have one that came out like 10 years ago (its like 200MB) and it still runs perfectly.

debroglie
Oct 23, 2005, 12:48 PM
If you could get WD that would be the best. Wester Digital makes the best Hard Drives in the world. I still have one that came out like 10 years ago (its like 200MB) and it still runs perfectly.

My experience is that WD are very loud. Also, I've had one fail on me in the first year of usage.

California
Oct 23, 2005, 01:11 PM
I am going to upgrade my pbook 667 Mhz to 768 ram(currently 512) and a new hard drive. Will my setup handle a 7200 rpm hard drive or should I just stick with something like 80-100 gig 5400? Also, Seagate versus Hitachi hard drive??

The Hitachi Travelstar (IBM) 7200 rpm drives will make your Tibook run GREAT, NOT HOT. Maxing out the ram to 1 gig and the hd to 7200 will give you a significant improvement.

You know with Tibooks, you need to make sure your little rubber feet are intact for that slivery cushion of airflow underneath the machine, right? Better yet, get a Hitachi drive and splurge 30 more bucks for a Macally Icepad (not ice book, but Ice Pad) air channelled powerbook stand that you can use as a lap desk or a desktop accessory for the Titanium powerbook. The Icepad was made for the Tibook.

Mechcozmo
Oct 23, 2005, 02:19 PM
Everyone has a horror story with a brand of hard drives.

I'd say 5400 rpm laptop drive. Faster but you don't need to worry about heat which sometimes is and sometimes isn't an issue-- but on the TiBooks, especially so with the flaking paint. So you can choose, 5400 or 7200, neither will be bad, but I think a 5400 RPM drive with an 8MB cache will do you well, and you will not have to worry about heat, etc.

slooksterPSV
Oct 23, 2005, 06:00 PM
My experience is that WD are very loud. Also, I've had one fail on me in the first year of usage.
This hard drive in my iBook, Seagate, is really loud.

wattage
Oct 23, 2005, 11:51 PM
I really appreciate the input fellas. I've done some more searching and found some good prices at newegg. Hitachi 80/5400 $111; 100/5400 $143 (3 yr warranty)

Toshiba 80/5400 $118; 100/5400 $157 (3 yr warr. ALSO 16 mb cache!)
Seagate 120/5400 $249 (5 yr warr.)

note-the other drives listed all have 8mb cache

I've heard the Toshiba that comes in pbook (4200) are crappy, does that cache difference sway ya'lls opinions? For some reason the Hitachi Travelstars just pull me to them. Thanks again. What would you pick?

California
Oct 24, 2005, 12:29 AM
I've had the best luck with Hitachi travelstars. Yeah, the minute their 7200rpm drives come with a 16mb cache, I will be there, cash money in hand!! The Toshibas are just too iffy for me, even with the warranty. Noisier too. I had a noisy Toshiba in a 667 tibook, too, though i think it was the OEM 4200 drive.

wattage
Oct 24, 2005, 01:15 AM
Yeah, the minute their 7200rpm drives come with a 16mb cache, I will be there, cash money in hand!!
Wonder how long that will be?

Counterfit
Oct 24, 2005, 01:44 AM
I really appreciate the input fellas. I've done some more searching and found some good prices at newegg. Hitachi 80/5400 $111; 100/5400 $143 (3 yr warranty)

Toshiba 80/5400 $118; 100/5400 $157 (3 yr warr. ALSO 16 mb cache!)
Seagate 120/5400 $249 (5 yr warr.)

note-the other drives listed all have 8mb cache

I've heard the Toshiba that comes in pbook (4200) are crappy, does that cache difference sway ya'lls opinions? For some reason the Hitachi Travelstars just pull me to them. Thanks again. What would you pick?
I put a 5400RPM 100GB Seagate in my PB about two months ago. It's much quieter (and faster and bigger) than the Fujitsu that was in here. "I" ( :rolleyes: ) paid $200 retail for it then, so it's probably cheaper online.

pigwin32
Oct 24, 2005, 03:41 AM
I just upgraded my laptop to a 100GB 7200 RPM drive from the original 60GB 4200 RPM drive. It's no louder, no hotter, and uses no more battery life. The only difference I notice is that my laptop runs faster and has more storage, absolutely no negative side-effects.
I agree, I put a Hitachi 7200RPM 7k60 60GB drive in my TiBook 667 a while back. The performance improvement was significant, there was no additional heat, definitely one of the best upgrades out there.

The more recent 100GB 7200RPM Hitachi laptop drives are supposed to be even better.

Demon Hunter
Oct 24, 2005, 04:21 PM
Seagate is awesome. I'm not sure I recommend a faster drive in a TiBook since they are hotter than hell, but if these reviews are right, they may not cause extra heat.