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theuserjohnny
Apr 7, 2013, 07:16 PM
I busted my GS3 and I attempted to fix the glass via the 20 dollar glass on eBay. I got so close to taking off the shattered glass then I applied a bit to much pressure and cracked the actual screen (LCD) itself.

I was looking around for unlocked phones (GS3, Note 2, iPhone 5, GS4) and I wasn't really a fan of the 500+ prices and I ran into the Nexus 4.

From what I understand I won't get LTE on my Nexus 4 (I'm on verizon) so will I just get regular 4G speed? Now that I'll be able to tell the difference.



fr4c
Apr 7, 2013, 07:20 PM
What? The Nexus 4 is a GSM phone, your Verizon LTE sim (from your Galaxy S3) will not work in the N4.

0dev
Apr 7, 2013, 07:21 PM
LTE is 4G, so you'll be getting 3G speed on the Nexus 4. Whether or not you notice it depends on how good the 4G coverage in your area was in the first place and how often you use the data network but try it and enjoy, Nexus phones are very nice for the money IMO, especially if you like fast updates and customisation.

theuserjohnny
Apr 7, 2013, 07:43 PM
LTE is 4G, so you'll be getting 3G speed on the Nexus 4. Whether or not you notice it depends on how good the 4G coverage in your area was in the first place and how often you use the data network but try it and enjoy, Nexus phones are very nice for the money IMO, especially if you like fast updates and customisation.

It was pretty fast but I mean I'm not using this to download files or for such. Just the occasional facebook update or Instagram upload and checking scores. So I don't think I'll die I'm planning on leaving Verizon after my contract is up (another 2 years or something).

siurpeeman
Apr 7, 2013, 07:56 PM
LTE is 4G, so you'll be getting 3G speed on the Nexus 4. Whether or not you notice it depends on how good the 4G coverage in your area was in the first place and how often you use the data network but try it and enjoy, Nexus phones are very nice for the money IMO, especially if you like fast updates and customisation.

the nexus 4 is a gsm phone. it won't work on verizon's cdma network, not even a little.


From what I understand I won't get LTE on my Nexus 4 (I'm on verizon) so will I just get regular 4G speed? Now that I'll be able to tell the difference.

the phone really is no good to you if you're on verizon. if you bought it from google, i'd try to see if you can cancel the order. if it's too late for that, i think you have 15 days to return it.

daneoni
Apr 7, 2013, 08:13 PM
Unless Verizon suddenly developed a GSM network you should not be buying a Nexus 4 (GSM only). The only Nexus device you should be buying is the Samsung Galaxy Nexus for Verizon.

theuserjohnny
Apr 7, 2013, 08:30 PM
So what speeds will I get on the phone just 3G?

bmac4
Apr 7, 2013, 08:53 PM
so what speeds will i get on the phone just 3g?

this phone will not work on verizon.

fr4c
Apr 7, 2013, 09:02 PM
So what speeds will I get on the phone just 3G?
The LTE sim from Verizon is for data provisioning on the Verizon network, it will not work in a GSM phone like the Nexus 4.

No 3G/4G/LTE, or whatever else you want to call it. A Verizon LTE sim will not work in a unlocked GSM phone period.

F123D
Apr 7, 2013, 09:16 PM
So what speeds will I get on the phone just 3G?

0 Mbps

Dr McKay
Apr 7, 2013, 09:20 PM
So what speeds will I get on the phone just 3G?

0. The Nexus 4 will not work on Verizon. At all. End of.

theuserjohnny
Apr 7, 2013, 09:36 PM
Damn.

I knew it wouldn't support LTE but I didn't know it just flat out won't work.

Google support team kept telling me it would... damn them.

onthecouchagain
Apr 7, 2013, 09:41 PM
Return. Tell them you were misinformed. They'll refund.

I returned my Nexus 4 (three of them, technically) because of back to back to back defective units. I told them I had enough, can't keep setting up a new phone and shipping an old one back until I get a proper unit.

Got a full refund. Refund took forever to post, but it did come.

theuserjohnny
Apr 7, 2013, 09:58 PM
Return. Tell them you were misinformed. They'll refund.

I returned my Nexus 4 (three of them, technically) because of back to back to back defective units. I told them I had enough, can't keep setting up a new phone and shipping an old one back until I get a proper unit.

Got a full refund. Refund took forever to post, but it did come.

Yeah I finally got someone who actually looked into it and finally told me that it wouldn't and they had it confirmed. Told her that I was previously told multiple times that it would work.

Told me to just not accept the package and if it does get accepted just do not open the box and send it back for a full refund.

nfl46
Apr 7, 2013, 10:14 PM
Lol, I was reading the thread from top to bottom and thinking to myself, "OP, it is NOT going to work!"

theuserjohnny
Apr 7, 2013, 11:13 PM
Lol, I was reading the thread from top to bottom and thinking to myself, "OP, it is NOT going to work!"

For once in my life I look like a total IDIOT! I can't believe I didn't do my research before buying I just assumed "unlocked" meant it'll work no brainer! Def learned something today!

Thanks to all of you!

fr4c
Apr 7, 2013, 11:19 PM
For once in my life I look like a total IDIOT! I can't believe I didn't do my research before buying I just assumed "unlocked" meant it'll work no brainer! Def learned something today!

Thanks to all of you!

Unlocked and Verizon should not be placed in the same sentence :p

tjl3
Apr 8, 2013, 12:15 AM
Unlocked and Verizon should not be placed in the same sentence :p

This is actually one of the good things iPhone does well :D Eventho you won't get GSM LTE.

0dev
Apr 8, 2013, 05:54 AM
And here I was thinking Google sold CDMA Nexus 4's in the US :p

mattopotamus
Apr 8, 2013, 06:26 AM
Hopefully the refund for not excepting a package is faster than their normal refund process of over a month.

Dr McKay
Apr 8, 2013, 07:20 AM
If you're truly set on a Nexus Phone, there is a Verizon version of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

fr4c
Apr 8, 2013, 07:57 AM
If you're truly set on a Nexus Phone, there is a Verizon version of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Which just received 4.2.2 about 2 weeks ago when everyone else, including the GSM GN's have been on it for months. It's a EOL product so who knows when VZW will approve and release the next update.

But if you really want it, yes they can be had used for around $200-250 depending on condition and accessories. I saw one in mint condition, with extended batteries and a few cases sell for $250.

mattopotamus
Apr 8, 2013, 08:20 AM
Which just received 4.2.2 about 2 weeks ago when everyone else, including the GSM GN's have been on it for months. It's a EOL product so who knows when VZW will approve and release the next update.

But if you really want it, yes they can be had used for around $200-250 depending on condition and accessories. I saw one in mint condition, with extended batteries and a few cases sell for $250.

Wow that sucks. I did not realize it still had to go through the carrier. What about people who bought their nexus 4 straight from t-mobile? Would that have to also wait for the carrier?

fr4c
Apr 8, 2013, 08:22 AM
Wow that sucks. I did not realize it still had to go through the carrier. What about people who bought their nexus 4 straight from t-mobile? Would that have to also wait for the carrier?

Nope. The Nexus 4 that TMobile sells is the same version from Google Play. Direct OTA updates no need to go through carrier.

theuserjohnny
Apr 8, 2013, 11:14 AM
Nope. The Nexus 4 that TMobile sells is the same version from Google Play. Direct OTA updates no need to go through carrier.

Would it be worth it to leave Verizon? Currently I'm with my parents but my parents are due for an upgrade so they said they'll disconnect that one line rather than upgrade and they'll pick up my remaining contract and let me go free to whatever provider I want.

Or they'll upgrade that line and let me grab the smartphone of my choice.

I mean I already have the Nexus 4 coming either way it's expected to be here around April 11ish.

TheHateMachine
Apr 8, 2013, 11:39 AM
Unlocked and Verizon should not be placed in the same sentence :p

Actually any phone that runs on Verizon's LTE bands has to be unlocked due to FCC regulations on the block that they own. Technically they could activate and work on Sprint's network, however Sprint won't have the Hardware IDs in their database and will not be helpful at all. :P

That said there are some phones that Verizon has sold before that included GSM radios. Hell even the latest CDMA iPhone I believe has support for certain GSM bands. Correct me if I am wrong though.

cynics
Apr 8, 2013, 01:00 PM
Actually any phone that runs on Verizon's LTE bands has to be unlocked due to FCC regulations on the block that they own. Technically they could activate and work on Sprint's network, however Sprint won't have the Hardware IDs in their database and will not be helpful at all. :P

That said there are some phones that Verizon has sold before that included GSM radios. Hell even the latest CDMA iPhone I believe has support for certain GSM bands. Correct me if I am wrong though.

Even the iPhone 4S on Verizon can do GSM. Only because of the radio in the phone though. I use mine when abroad on GSM carriers. They unlock it for international use with little effort.

You aren't supposed to be able to use it on AT&T but there is a way, using jailbreak and modifying a couple files or so I've read.

Point is the phone has to have the hardware to accomplish stuff. And as nice as the radio is in the N4 it doesn't support CDMA. Which is what Google wanted, except for storage capacity there is only one version of the N4.

mattopotamus
Apr 8, 2013, 01:04 PM
Would it be worth it to leave Verizon? Currently I'm with my parents but my parents are due for an upgrade so they said they'll disconnect that one line rather than upgrade and they'll pick up my remaining contract and let me go free to whatever provider I want.

Or they'll upgrade that line and let me grab the smartphone of my choice.

I mean I already have the Nexus 4 coming either way it's expected to be here around April 11ish.

t-mobile is the cheapest of the big 4 if you want unlimited talk, text, and web and fast internet speeds. Their hspa+ network is up to 42 mbps, which is basically LTE. I only get 23 on att LTE and on tmobile hspa+ I get 27 mbps down.