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animalx
Apr 11, 2013, 09:28 AM
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Survey-says-that-the-Samsung-Galaxy-Series-is-simpler-than-the-Apple-iPhone_id41712

I'm not sure if I agree with this or not.



tjl3
Apr 11, 2013, 11:35 AM
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Survey-says-that-the-Samsung-Galaxy-Series-is-simpler-than-the-Apple-iPhone_id41712

I'm not sure if I agree with this or not.

"Those responding to the survey liked the way that the Korean manufacturer's devices were compatible with other standards and brands, including accessories and devices. Those surveyed also liked the ease of transferring files on the Samsung devices...

It should be pointed out that Samsung is a client of Siegel+Gale while Apple is not."

Prototypical
Apr 11, 2013, 12:10 PM
It should be pointed out that Samsung is a client of Siegel+Gale while Apple is not."

Aaaaaand, goodbye survey credibility! :rolleyes:

Dontazemebro
Apr 11, 2013, 12:14 PM
Aaaaaand, goodbye survey credibility! :rolleyes:

Exactly what I was thinking.

JHUFrank
Apr 11, 2013, 12:32 PM
Takes the air right out of that one. And file sharing on a Samsung, ugh!

jamojamo
Apr 11, 2013, 12:51 PM
So does this mean Galaxy devices are for old people and little kids that don't want to do anything other than check FB/Twitter, text their grandkids, etc. and all the other snarky-ass comments people tend to make about iPhones and why people like them?

:p

hyteckit
Apr 13, 2013, 09:26 PM
And 4 out of 5 dentist prefers trident gum.

onthecouchagain
Apr 14, 2013, 12:03 AM
Android phones are easier to use.

Don't really care about the survey.

Donvald
Apr 14, 2013, 08:26 AM
I think coming from a dumb phone I'd agree. Its basically a USB drive with a phone app. You use what other services you need on top of that.

Iphones on the other hand require a steeper initial learning curve I'd say with the concept of syncing iTunes and the Icloud.

The interface is the more simpler thing on the iphones But to benefit from the phone you ideally want to connect it up to the other complimentary and proprietary software which is not as straightforward IMO.

onthecouchagain
Apr 14, 2013, 08:40 AM
iOS is so simple it's actually more difficult to use. The competition has figured out how to do most of the same things faster and easier.

I can't tell you how many times I think the back button is upper left where it usually is only to discover its upper right this time.

Or navigating through the iOS settings menu. What a chore. What a mess.

Lack of dedicated menu button in apps.

Inability to queue. Having to scroll ceaselessly to get to a bottom of a page (boy I hate hitting the link for the previous page in forum threads then having to scroll all the way down just to see what the last post was on that given page). Turning on and off private browsing. Etc.

There are so many examples. So many...

iOS is an operating system that reeks of limitations. Everything is so manual. Requiring jumping through hoops to accomplish.

People keep calling these different ways of doing things "preferences". You can make that argument all you want. One way is slower and harder while the competition is offering easier ways to do most things.

cynics
Apr 14, 2013, 08:59 AM
I think it depends on the task you are trying to accomplish and how you have the phone set up to accomplish those tasks.

onthecouchagain
Apr 14, 2013, 09:06 AM
I think it depends on the task you are trying to accomplish and how you have the phone set up to accomplish those tasks.

It sure does. But there are only so many ways iOS allows you to do certain tasks. In some cases there's only one way. In some cases there are no ways (I'm looking at you personal dictionary). I find this is the case far more times with iOS than with android.

Donvald
Apr 14, 2013, 09:10 AM
iOS is so simple it's actually more difficult to use. The competition has figured out how to do most of the same things faster and easier.

I can't tell you how many times I think the back button is upper left where it usually is only to discover its upper right this time.

Or navigating through the iOS settings menu. What a chore. What a mess.

Lack of dedicated menu button in apps.

Inability to queue. Having to scroll ceaselessly to get to a bottom of a page (boy I hate hitting the link for the previous page in forum threads then having to scroll all the way down just to see what the last post was on that given page). Turning on and off private browsing. Etc.

There are so many examples. So many...

iOS is an operating system that reeks of limitations. Everything is so manual. Requiring jumping through hoops to accomplish.

People keep calling these different ways of doing things "preferences". You can make that argument all you want. One way is slower and harder while the competition is offering easier ways to do most things.

For me was the problem of encoding videos for playback already on the PC and downloading multiple programs trying to find the right one to convert files that are a simple matter of drag and drop on android devices.

That's the main problem I have with iOS the loops you have to go through to avoid using apples proprietary services.

cynics
Apr 14, 2013, 10:45 AM
It sure does. But there are only so many ways iOS allows you to do certain tasks. In some cases there's only one way. In some cases there are no ways (I'm looking at you personal dictionary). I find this is the case far more times with iOS than with android.

I agree. There are some compromises you need to make to use iOS, be it not do certain things or buy expensive proprietary cables/device to use certain functions. But generally I don't have a problem. I'm about fed up with Android as much as I am with iOS. :)

onthecouchagain
Apr 14, 2013, 11:01 AM
I agree. There are some compromises you need to make to use iOS, be it not do certain things or buy expensive proprietary cables/device to use certain functions. But generally I don't have a problem. I'm about fed up with Android as much as I am with iOS. :)

I feel ya. Android has a handful of its own shortcomings.

Y'all will likely hear plenty when I get my hands on the One. :p

ugahairydawgs
Apr 14, 2013, 12:41 PM
iOS is so simple it's actually more difficult to use. The competition has figured out how to do most of the same things faster and easier.

I can't tell you how many times I think the back button is upper left where it usually is only to discover its upper right this time.

Or navigating through the iOS settings menu. What a chore. What a mess.

Lack of dedicated menu button in apps.

Inability to queue. Having to scroll ceaselessly to get to a bottom of a page (boy I hate hitting the link for the previous page in forum threads then having to scroll all the way down just to see what the last post was on that given page). Turning on and off private browsing. Etc.

There are so many examples. So many...

iOS is an operating system that reeks of limitations. Everything is so manual. Requiring jumping through hoops to accomplish.

People keep calling these different ways of doing things "preferences". You can make that argument all you want. One way is slower and harder while the competition is offering easier ways to do most things.

Everyone's usage pattern is different. Most folks don't need to spend a lot of time in the Settings app, so the "chore" you say it is to get around it is really of no consequence.

The back button thing I guess I'm just too much of a rube to care about. I know where it's at in Safari. I know where it's at in email and messages. I know where its at pretty much everywhere and at the times I don't I can just stare at the slab of screen I'm holding in my hand and find it (its only going to be in one of two places.....so I doesn't take very long).

You don't have to scroll to get to the bottom of a page in Android?

Your last paragraph went like this.

People keep calling these different ways of doing things "preferences". You can make that argument all you want. One way is slower and harder while the competition is offering easier ways to do most things.

What it should have said was this.

People keep calling these different ways of doing things "preferences". You can make that argument all you want. One way is slower and harder for me while the competition is offering, in my opinion, easier ways to do most things.

nickchallis92
Apr 14, 2013, 01:22 PM
A classic iOS failure is when you open a link in an email (an everyday task) then want to return to your emails.

Having to return home and open emails again is the most illogical system going. Also illogical is double-tapping the home button and getting emails back that way. How would anyone devoid of technoligcal nouse work that out?

ugahairydawgs
Apr 14, 2013, 01:24 PM
A classic iOS failure is when you open a link in an email (an everyday task) then want to return to your emails.

Having to return home and open emails again is the most illogical system going. Also illogical is double-tapping the home button and getting emails back that way. How would anyone devoid of technoligcal nouse work that out?

How else do you get back to it if you don't go through the home screen or the multitask dock?

Dave.UK
Apr 14, 2013, 03:09 PM
How else do you get back to it if you don't go through the home screen or the multitask dock?

In Android you just hit the back button.

ugahairydawgs
Apr 14, 2013, 03:12 PM
In Android you just hit the back button.

Gotcha. So does that only work that way when jumped over from a linked email?

tjl3
Apr 14, 2013, 04:08 PM
A classic iOS failure is when you open a link in an email (an everyday task) then want to return to your emails.

Having to return home and open emails again is the most illogical system going. Also illogical is double-tapping the home button and getting emails back that way. How would anyone devoid of technoligcal nouse work that out?

How does this work on your computer? When reading email in one application and launching a link in another, how are you expecting to get back to the mail app? So it isn't just a classic iOS failure, it's a classic Mac and Windows failure as you may suggest :rolleyes:

LIVEFRMNYC
Apr 14, 2013, 05:46 PM
How does this work on your computer? When reading email in one application and launching a link in another, how are you expecting to get back to the mail app? So it isn't just a classic iOS failure, it's a classic Mac and Windows failure as you may suggest :rolleyes:

Your comparing windows on a PC & Mac desktop to apps that are full screen on a phone? Bad example.

Dave.UK
Apr 15, 2013, 01:27 AM
Gotcha. So does that only work that way when jumped over from a linked email?

Nope, works with links in any apps such as Facebook, Twitter etc. Click the back button and takes you back to where you was prior to clicking the link.

MacRumorUser
Apr 15, 2013, 01:33 AM
Nope, works with links in any apps such as Facebook, Twitter etc. Click the back button and takes you back to where you was prior to clicking the link.

But.... What if you opened the email in one room and when you clicked the link that opened in the browser you were walking into another, when you click back do you end up back in the previous room too? :confused:

that would be awesome ;) :D.

mib1800
Apr 15, 2013, 02:55 AM
Gotcha. So does that only work that way when jumped over from a linked email?

The concept is very simple. It applies everywhere (unless the active app intercepts the back button event). The back button navigates based on the order of currently open stacked forms/activities of multi-tasking apps (note: an app can open multiple forms).

nick_elt
Apr 15, 2013, 03:13 AM
im always pushing an imaginary back button on my iPad after using my phone all day.

fredaroony
Apr 15, 2013, 04:15 AM
iOS is so simple it's actually more difficult to use. The competition has figured out how to do most of the same things faster and easier.

I can't tell you how many times I think the back button is upper left where it usually is only to discover its upper right this time.

Or navigating through the iOS settings menu. What a chore. What a mess.

Lack of dedicated menu button in apps.

Inability to queue. Having to scroll ceaselessly to get to a bottom of a page (boy I hate hitting the link for the previous page in forum threads then having to scroll all the way down just to see what the last post was on that given page). Turning on and off private browsing. Etc.

There are so many examples. So many...

iOS is an operating system that reeks of limitations. Everything is so manual. Requiring jumping through hoops to accomplish.

People keep calling these different ways of doing things "preferences". You can make that argument all you want. One way is slower and harder while the competition is offering easier ways to do most things.

Indeed, why cant they just make shortcuts or configurable icons for wifi or personal hotspot??

tjl3
Apr 15, 2013, 09:38 AM
Your comparing windows on a PC & Mac desktop to apps that are full screen on a phone? Bad example.

Yup, bad example, classic failure b/c exiting the web browser to go back to the email application is so unheard of and uncivilized that it is a classic failure. No, Android has its own simple implementation where iOS has chosen to go the typical route.

Dave.UK
Apr 15, 2013, 10:06 AM
Yup, bad example, classic failure b/c exiting the web browser to go back to the email application is so unheard of and uncivilized that it is a classic failure. No, Android has its own simple implementation where iOS has chosen to go the typical route.

So your saying ios has gone the typical route of a PC, rather then adapting and adjusting the process and making it simpler for a mobile device like Android has?

So much for the so called smartest mobile operating system :rolleyes:

maxosx
Apr 15, 2013, 11:09 AM
It sure does. But there are only so many ways iOS allows you to do certain tasks. In some cases there's only one way. In some cases there are no ways (I'm looking at you personal dictionary). I find this is the case far more times with iOS than with android.

Very true. Android has always been ahead of Apple when it comes to many things.

Look how long Apple kept iPhone users locked in to iTunes via a wire. Sync requiring a cable was pathetic.

Finally years later they decide to join the modern era and allow wireless updates.

iCole
Apr 17, 2013, 08:38 AM
Using iOS in general is much simpeler than Android. Wanting to do something that is considered to be obvious is generally harder on iOS. ;)

thehustleman
Apr 17, 2013, 09:41 AM
iOS is so simple it's actually more difficult to use. The competition has figured out how to do most of the same things faster and easier.

I can't tell you how many times I think the back button is upper left where it usually is only to discover its upper right this time.

Or navigating through the iOS settings menu. What a chore. What a mess.

Lack of dedicated menu button in apps.

Inability to queue. Having to scroll ceaselessly to get to a bottom of a page (boy I hate hitting the link for the previous page in forum threads then having to scroll all the way down just to see what the last post was on that given page). Turning on and off private browsing. Etc.

There are so many examples. So many...

iOS is an operating system that reeks of limitations. Everything is so manual. Requiring jumping through hoops to accomplish.

People keep calling these different ways of doing things "preferences". You can make that argument all you want. One way is slower and harder while the competition is offering easier ways to do most things.

You are speaking the truth, things like that (you know, FACTS) don't go over well around these parts!

Also another fun fact, when trying to turn on the mobile hotspot is waaaaaaay easier on Android.

It's the truth, Android is easier that ios to learn

tjl3
Apr 17, 2013, 09:53 AM
You are speaking the truth, things like that (you know, FACTS) don't go over well around these parts!

Also another fun fact, when trying to turn on the mobile hotspot is waaaaaaay easier on Android.

It's the truth, Android is easier that ios to learn

Not sure if serious...

iOS: Settings>Personal Hotspot>On

Android: Settings>More>Tethering & portable hotspot>Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

If you're talking about having a toggle switch, can't argue with you there.

adder7712
Apr 17, 2013, 03:46 PM
im always pushing an imaginary back button on my iPad after using my phone all day.

I also do the same while fiddling with my mother's iPhone. :o

cynics
Apr 17, 2013, 04:02 PM
Not sure if serious...

iOS: Settings>Personal Hotspot>On

Android: Settings>More>Tethering & portable hotspot>Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

If you're talking about having a toggle switch, can't argue with you there.

In iOS isn't it.

Settings > General > Cellular > Personal Hotspot ?

I don't have it activated so maybe it changes if you do? Or varies per carrier?

Side note, every time I goto "cellular" on my 4S I start getting an error message that my phone doesn't have cellular data plan. I need to reboot to fix it, very annoying.

thehustleman
Apr 17, 2013, 04:09 PM
Not sure if serious...

iOS: Settings>Personal Hotspot>On

Android: Settings>More>Tethering & portable hotspot>Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

If you're talking about having a toggle switch, can't argue with you there.

You're wrong. It's settings, general, cellular data, personal hot spot.

With android you pull down and tap the toggle.

Simple.

MsvSpaz
Apr 17, 2013, 04:28 PM
You're wrong. It's settings, general, cellular data, personal hot spot.

With android you pull down and tap the toggle.

Simple.
He is actually right. They moved it to the main settings in, I think, the ios5 update or somewhere around there.
No denying it is easier with a toggle in Android though.

Radiating
Apr 17, 2013, 04:36 PM
"Those responding to the survey liked the way that the Korean manufacturer's devices were compatible with other standards and brands, including accessories and devices. Those surveyed also liked the ease of transferring files on the Samsung devices...

It should be pointed out that Samsung is a client of Siegel+Gale while Apple is not."

What? The Galaxy S3 was the most bug riddled peice of junk I have ever used. It wasn't compatible with half the stuff I tried with it.

The iPhone has had virtually no compatability issues because all of it's accessories are specifically made for it instead of a billion other devices.

I also am not sure what is going on with the file transfer nonsense, that sounds like this company is a marketing front for Samsung and is trying to push their NFC nonsense.

cynics
Apr 17, 2013, 04:49 PM
He is actually right. They moved it to the main settings in, I think, the ios5 update or somewhere around there.
No denying it is easier with a toggle in Android though.

I'm on iOS 6.1.3 and its Settings > General > Cellular > Personal Hotspot. Verizon 4S. But like I mentioned I don't have that function so maybe it moves if you do.

I REALLY need to stop looking at that setting cellular page!! Requires a reboot every time.

thehustleman
Apr 17, 2013, 05:19 PM
He is actually right. They moved it to the main settings in, I think, the ios5 update or somewhere around there.
No denying it is easier with a toggle in Android though.

No, it's where I said.

See for yourself in an iphone 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyOChJEySoU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Tinmania
Apr 17, 2013, 05:32 PM
Gotcha. So does that only work that way when jumped over from a linked email?
As already stated it works for just about anything that might take you from one app to another (in addition, of course, to going back within the app itself).

An example: I am in the app Pulse reading a story about a new app. Pulse doesn't show reader comments so I choose to open it in Chrome to read the comments. While reading it in Chrome there is a link to the Play store to download the app. I go there and download it.

When I tap the back button in the Play store it will take me back to Chrome, and when I tap it again in Chrome it takes me back to Pulse--right where I left off.




Michael

MsvSpaz
Apr 17, 2013, 05:35 PM
No, it's where I said.

See for yourself in an iphone 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyOChJEySoU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Well on the iPhone 5 on ios 6.1.2, that I am holding in my hand, it is where he said, in the main settings.

Tinmania
Apr 17, 2013, 05:39 PM
Not sure if serious...

iOS: Settings>Personal Hotspot>On

Android: Settings>More>Tethering & portable hotspot>Portable Wi-Fi hotspot

If you're talking about having a toggle switch, can't argue with you there.
Not sure if you are serious but it's a mere swipe down on Android. A perfect example where Apple is just being plain stubborn by forcing people into the settings app for every little thing--including to change things in apps. Well, usually. Sometimes settings are in the app itself. And sometimes settings are in the app itself and other settings are in the Settings app. Oh what joy!



Michael

MsvSpaz
Apr 17, 2013, 06:09 PM
Well on the iPhone 5 on ios 6.1.2, that I am holding in my hand, it is where he said, in the main settings.
[IMG]

This is where Personal Hotspot resides on an Australian delivered iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1.2. I am wondering if it is different for US delivered iPhones due to the restrictions on tethering there. Anyone know?

408327

ucfgrad93
Apr 17, 2013, 07:10 PM
Simpler and easier are very subjective terms.

xraydoc
Apr 17, 2013, 07:12 PM
[IMG]

This is where Personal Hotspot resides on an Australian delivered iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1.2. I am wondering if it is different for US delivered iPhones due to the restrictions on tethering there. Anyone know?

408327

Same place on the US phones.

cynics
Apr 17, 2013, 07:21 PM
As already stated it works for just about anything that might take you from one app to another (in addition, of course, to going back within the app itself).

An example: I am in the app Pulse reading a story about a new app. Pulse doesn't show reader comments so I choose to open it in Chrome to read the comments. While reading it in Chrome there is a link to the Play store to download the app. I go there and download it.

When I tap the back button in the Play store it will take me back to Chrome, and when I tap it again in Chrome it takes me back to Pulse--right where I left off.




Michael

Yep, this is annoying in iOS. Quite frequently I'll double tap the home button to go back to an app I was bumped out of by a link. I quickly touch the icon on the far left to late to realize I was bumped two apps away so I have to start the process again. If I'm really not paying attention I'll do it again which will put me back exactly where I started.

I probably due this because I started on Android that had a back button. I miss it but its not something I can't live without but it does streamline how the device works.

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[IMG]

This is where Personal Hotspot resides on an Australian delivered iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1.2. I am wondering if it is different for US delivered iPhones due to the restrictions on tethering there. Anyone know?

408327

It's not there on mine.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/18/e8edu3y5.jpg

It's here.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/18/8u7ahyze.jpg

US Verizon 4S on iOS 6.1.3

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/18/tynyqumy.jpg

OMGZ FRAGMENTATION!!! Lol

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Same place on the US phones.

See above.

Tinmania
Apr 17, 2013, 07:28 PM
Yep, this is annoying in iOS. Quite frequently I'll double tap the home button to go back to an app I was bumped out of by a link. I quickly touch the icon on the far left to late to realize I was bumped two apps away so I have to start the process again. If I'm really not paying attention I'll do it again which will put me back exactly where I started.
Where I find it particularly annoying is when I am yanked out of an app and into Safari without realizing it would happen (e.g., there is a "Tips" button that I assumed would simply display a page of text in the app that instead takes me to a web page). And then there is the real killa! Getting yanked into the browser only to be bounced to the app store. Grrrrr.

Now, granted, those same things can happen on Android too. But it is much nicer being able to just use the back button to go back.



Michael

xraydoc
Apr 17, 2013, 07:34 PM
It's not there on mine.

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/18/e8edu3y5.jpg)

It's here.

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/18/8u7ahyze.jpg)

US Verizon 4S on iOS 6.1.3

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/18/tynyqumy.jpg)

OMGZ FRAGMENTATION!!! Lol

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See above.
Odd. It is on mine. Family Share plan (tethering included).

tjl3
Apr 17, 2013, 08:06 PM
No, it's where I said.

See for yourself in an iphone 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyOChJEySoU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I guess I need to jump in...

Since you clearly know what you are talking about, the setup screen is what cynics has shown. Once you allow it, it will create a shortcut under the settings menu so that it is indeed 3 clicks.

I know for certain that your GS3 doesn't come set up w/ tethering, so you'd need to configure it as well.

But in the end I guess you win, 3 clicks is easier than 2 =/ Yes Android is easier b/c it allows quick toggles.

adder7712
Apr 18, 2013, 12:51 AM
What? The Galaxy S3 was the most bug riddled peice of junk I have ever used. It wasn't compatible with half the stuff I tried with it.

The iPhone has had virtually no compatability issues because all of it's accessories are specifically made for it instead of a billion other devices.

I also am not sure what is going on with the file transfer nonsense, that sounds like this company is a marketing front for Samsung and is trying to push their NFC nonsense.

NFC is the way to go at this point of time.

fredaroony
Apr 18, 2013, 01:09 AM
What? The Galaxy S3 was the most bug riddled peice of junk I have ever used. It wasn't compatible with half the stuff I tried with it.

The iPhone has had virtually no compatability issues because all of it's accessories are specifically made for it instead of a billion other devices.

I also am not sure what is going on with the file transfer nonsense, that sounds like this company is a marketing front for Samsung and is trying to push their NFC nonsense.

What was it not compatible with?

Radiating
Apr 18, 2013, 01:39 AM
NFC is the way to go at this point of time.

Except these guys are trying to praise the phone for being able to bump to Galaxy S3's together and share a playlist, not other NFC features. Which is a made up thing people do in commercials where everyone in the universe owns a Samsung phone and smiles uncontrollably and on sham surveys. NFC is a good feature, but the way the survey words it indicates it is an obvious sham.

Tarzanman
Apr 19, 2013, 06:18 AM
I have not used iOS extensively.

Having said that, it is pretty evident that custom widgets, home screen icons (nested, even), toggles and custom lock screens allow the user to make a lot of tasks faster.

Not everything is easier in android (how do i find out where/how to clear the system preference on an SMS app or ringtone selector), but it is currently designed in a way that makes it easier to figure out how to do something on-the-fly without losing your place in an app.