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EbookReader
Apr 12, 2013, 03:13 AM
http://www.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/megasamsungphone.jpg



decafjava
Apr 12, 2013, 03:19 AM
While I can see the value of the Galaxy SIII and IV size wise don't see the point of the Note let alone the Mega monstrosity. Might as well get a tablet. :rolleyes:

Radiating
Apr 12, 2013, 03:23 AM
The Galaxy Mega is outdated, the Samsung Galaxy Monstrosity (TM) is the best phone money can buy. And by best I mean biggest.

http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/130107_lenovo_table_tablet.jpg?w=414&h=242

AQUADock
Apr 12, 2013, 03:29 AM
And the point is? A 20" TV looks small next to a 50" doesn't make either of them worse or better then the other.

Radiating
Apr 12, 2013, 03:44 AM
And the point is? A 20" TV looks small next to a 50" doesn't make either of them worse or better then the other.

Bigger is better!!! Duh.

Nevermind smaller high quality products. I want a 20 foot tall phone with 60 watt light bulbs for pixels.

0dev
Apr 12, 2013, 04:44 AM
I like Samsung a lot but I'm disappointed they're following this ridiculous trend of making tablet sized phones. The Note II is pretty much the limit, it's just getting stupid now.

Oohara
Apr 12, 2013, 05:37 AM
I like Samsung a lot but I'm disappointed they're following this ridiculous trend of making tablet sized phones. The Note II is pretty much the limit, it's just getting stupid now.

I'm glad they're at least trying new things out. If they wouldn't be, then we wouldn't have had the Note II now.

I just got one myself after five years with iPhones and it's honestly a whole new world. I never though I'd have this much fun or be this productive with a phone. Most of the time I don't even bother to pull out the tablet now.

And the Note II slips down into the breast pocket of my jacket where I never thought it'd fit. The size thing is totally overblown, and it's very light too. I'm so happy I got over my Apple pride and tried this thing out.

So yeah, this new Mega phablet or whatever is probably going to be a bit too large. But so what if it fails? Maybe it turns out to be a huge hit, and how would anyone know without at least trying?

The Game 161
Apr 12, 2013, 05:56 AM
At least Samsung gives you plenty of OPTIONS!! Which is all that matters

AQUADock
Apr 12, 2013, 06:03 AM
At least Samsung gives you plenty of OPTIONS!! Which is all that matters

Theres options, then theres lets throw every screen size on to the wall and see what sticks.

Satori
Apr 12, 2013, 06:18 AM
At least Samsung gives you plenty of OPTIONS!! Which is all that matters

I have to agree with this. There is a Samsung phone for everyone no matter what size head, hands and pockets that they have! :eek::D

mattopotamus
Apr 12, 2013, 06:21 AM
I'm glad they're at least trying new things out. If they wouldn't be, then we wouldn't have had the Note II now.

I just got one myself after five years with iPhones and it's honestly a whole new world. I never though I'd have this much fun or be this productive with a phone. Most of the time I don't even bother to pull out the tablet now.

And the Note II slips down into the breast pocket of my jacket where I never thought it'd fit. The size thing is totally overblown, and it's very light too. I'm so happy I got over my Apple pride and tried this thing out.

So yeah, this new Mega phablet or whatever is probably going to be a bit too large. But so what if it fails? Maybe it turns out to be a huge hit, and how would anyone know without at least trying?

I totally agree about the note 2. It is such a thin and light device that it really does not feel that big. Obviously it is a two handed device, but really anything 4.7"+ is.

ChazUK
Apr 12, 2013, 06:27 AM
Something strange has me really iterested in the FonePad.

http://chazclout.com/CV/Upload/images/asusfonepa.jpg

I barely talk on my phone anyway so I may have to invest..


Huge phones, you either love them or hate..... :D

daveathall
Apr 12, 2013, 06:30 AM
If you don't like it don't buy it. TBH, it's as easy as that. Cant really understand those that say there is no need, I'm sure that market research by the selling company has already been done and the conclusion must have been that it will sell. Those that want the device can buy it, those that don't, won't.

I won't be buying one, bit big for me but am happy for those with a need/desire to have the choice/option.

Baytriple
Apr 12, 2013, 06:42 AM
How about have the tablet phone but use a Bluetooth earpiece.

daveathall
Apr 12, 2013, 06:45 AM
How about have the tablet phone but use a Bluetooth earpiece.

Agreed, or just use it on speaker and just talk while holding it in front of oneself, like I have seen many do now. :)

roxxette
Apr 12, 2013, 06:57 AM
Theres options, then theres lets throw every screen size on to the wall and see what sticks.

Well seems everything have stick from Samsung :)

mattopotamus
Apr 12, 2013, 07:06 AM
How about have the tablet phone but use a Bluetooth earpiece.

Agreed, or just use it on speaker and just talk while holding it in front of oneself, like I have seen many do now. :)

I totally agree. I rarely am outside of my house on a phone call. When I drive I use my car Bluetooth, and when at home I use speaker phone. I answer maybe 1 or 2 calls when I am out doing something.

KentuckyHouse
Apr 12, 2013, 07:24 AM
Theres options, then theres lets throw every screen size on to the wall and see what sticks.

And what's wrong with that?

I admit, the Note 2 is too big for MY tastes (I have one that I'll be selling for this very reason in the next week or so), but if it works for others, who cares?

By trying out various phones (I currently have the iPhone 5, Galaxy S3, and Note 2), I've been able to determine that my ideal screen size is right around 5". In the next couple of months, I'll sell my Note 2 and S3 and easily pay for the S4 with a couple of hundred bucks in my pocket to spare.

Options aren't a bad thing (as Apple would have you believe). It's time people stop worrying about how a phone makes them look or what other people like (and choose...there's that word again) to use.

chagla
Apr 12, 2013, 07:39 AM
Note II is the perfect size for me. great for reading, browsing and videos. really good balance between phone/tablet. i personally wouldn't go for a bigger than N2. The new mega will find some customers though.

reading and browsing on a bigger screen is way better experience than doing the same on a smaller screen.

its like, once you go big, you never go back.

tjl3
Apr 12, 2013, 08:32 AM
I have to agree with this. There is a Samsung phone for everyone no matter what size head, hands and pockets that they have! :eek::D

There is a Samsung phone for everyone as long as you are willing to compromise, i.e. specs and features. Else there are exactly two phone sizes. I applaud them tho b/c I never thought the Note would take off. Not for me, but A+ for releasing it.

Hastings101
Apr 12, 2013, 11:05 AM
Marketing should be easy, cough up some commercials focusing on how masculine you'll be compared to those wimpy iPhone or smaller Android phone users 4phatprofitz.

(also, penis size)

Kashsystems
Apr 12, 2013, 11:08 AM
http://www.textually.org/textually/archives/2010/04/25/martincooper1_wideweb__470x362,0.jpeg


I think Samsung is not thinking big enough.

Hail Caesar
Apr 12, 2013, 11:40 AM
Soon you will be carrying around a laptop and holding that up to your head. This phone size fad is getting silly.

xraydoc
Apr 12, 2013, 12:22 PM
Perhaps next Samsung will come out with a line of clothing with oversized pockets so your new Galaxy Mega 6.8" phablet will fit in pocket.

They can call them the Samsung S-Jeans and the the Samsung S-Shirt. Or maybe simply the Galaxy Pants.

"Bigger in the pocket, smaller in the crotch, for those who compensate."

fr4c
Apr 12, 2013, 12:41 PM
Perhaps next Samsung will come out with a line of clothing with oversized pockets so your new Galaxy Mega 6.8" phablet will fit in pocket.

They can call them the Samsung S-Jeans and the the Samsung S-Shirt. Or maybe simply the Galaxy Pants.

"Bigger in the pocket, smaller in the crotch, for those who compensate."

For some reason, the UFO pants from the 90's comes to mind.

mattopotamus
Apr 12, 2013, 01:25 PM
How do people really think bigger phones are silly? It I actually carried a tablet with me everywhere I went, I would rather have a note 2. It fits in my pocket and is a great blend of the two devices. I honestly have to believe they have never tried one...only seen one from afar. Obviously a mega is an exception, but the note 2 is no where near this massive unpocketable phone some say it is.

jrswizzle
Apr 12, 2013, 01:47 PM
How do people really think bigger phones are silly? It I actually carried a tablet with me everywhere I went, I would rather have a note 2. It fits in my pocket and is a great blend of the two devices. I honestly have to believe they have never tried one...only seen one from afar. Obviously a mega is an exception, but the note 2 is no where near this massive unpocketable phone some say it is.

For some it is....

I know I'm always drawn to the Note 2 because of reviews and all the good pub it gets....but when I actually see the thing in person and pick it up, I can't imagine using it daily like I do my smartphones.

I have my iPad mini with me most of the time, but its in my bag. My phones are always on me. For me, its more convenient to have multiple devices (a phone and tablet) that are used for different purposes rather than one device that makes compromises (too big for comfortable one-handed handling and phone use, too small for gaming and movie watching).

These are just my preferences though - I think the people who make big sweeping generalizations ("the Note 2 is EASILY used one-handed" - which I've heard before, and conversely "the Note 2 doesn't fit in my pocket" - which, unless you wear skinny jeans, is simply an attempt to discredit someone's opinion) are on both sides of the discussion.

Really it just comes down to what you want to use - my biggest issue is that Samsung's trend seems to be an increase in screen size each year across all their phone lines - will they continue to increase the Galaxy line's screen? I would be interested in a Note 3, but not at bigger than 5.5". Will they continue to "force" their customers to get a bigger phone if they want to upgrade?

I would bet not, but its funny to see how the trend is being pushed and seems to finally have hit a wall with many now saying 5" is their ideal screen size.

ijohn.8.80
Apr 13, 2013, 03:49 AM
http://chazclout.com/CV/Upload/images/asusfonepa.jpg

Huge phones, you either love them or hate..... :D

Seriously, does anyone have that small a penis that they need a phone that big? :p

ChazUK
Apr 13, 2013, 04:16 AM
Seriously, does anyone have that small a penis that they need a phone that big? :p

:mad: WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH PENIS SIZE!

/looks down :(


/cries. :p:D

Irishman
Apr 13, 2013, 07:25 AM
The Galaxy Mega is outdated, the Samsung Galaxy Monstrosity (TM) is the best phone money can buy. And by best I mean biggest.

Image (http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/130107_lenovo_table_tablet.jpg?w=414&h=242)

But isn't that the point for some people? Bigger screen for the same or close to the same money wins when they're shopping for a phone OR a TV?

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So yeah, this new Mega phablet or whatever is probably going to be a bit too large. But so what if it fails? Maybe it turns out to be a huge hit, and how would anyone know without at least trying?

Samsung SHOULD be able to know without shipping the damn thing! You know a month or two ago, to put it in perspective, some sites (Macrumors included, I Think. I can't be bothered to look it up) were talking about names for the ipod Apple passed on, and in one case showing some internal developmental failed designs.

One thing that Apple does do that Samsung could take a lesson from is they do the majority of their testing and development in-house (Apple Maps and Siri notwithstanding), especially for expensive hardware like a new handset.

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How do people really think bigger phones are silly? It I actually carried a tablet with me everywhere I went, I would rather have a note 2. It fits in my pocket and is a great blend of the two devices. I honestly have to believe they have never tried one...only seen one from afar. Obviously a mega is an exception, but the note 2 is no where near this massive unpocketable phone some say it is.

Everyone's use case is different.

maxosx
Apr 13, 2013, 07:26 AM
Duh... That's how you know it's an iPhone

Irishman
Apr 13, 2013, 07:34 AM
Theres options, then theres lets throw every screen size on to the wall and see what sticks.

+1,000!!

See my comment above to Oohara in post #30.

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And what's wrong with that?

I admit, the Note 2 is too big for MY tastes (I have one that I'll be selling for this very reason in the next week or so), but if it works for others, who cares?

By trying out various phones (I currently have the iPhone 5, Galaxy S3, and Note 2), I've been able to determine that my ideal screen size is right around 5". In the next couple of months, I'll sell my Note 2 and S3 and easily pay for the S4 with a couple of hundred bucks in my pocket to spare.

Options aren't a bad thing (as Apple would have you believe). It's time people stop worrying about how a phone makes them look or what other people like (and choose...there's that word again) to use.

To me, what's wrong with it, is that when a company releases so many minor variations of similarly-constructed products, that they have a poor understanding of why their first big hit was so successful. So, rather than risk making changes to the original hit phone that may prove to be unpopular, they start introducing new phones with slightly different feature sets, hoping to gain new users. This explains how the original Galaxy phone has turned into a Galaxy line of phones.

So to me, it is just a business point of a lack of understanding on Samsung's part.

cynics
Apr 13, 2013, 08:47 AM
+1,000!!

See my comment above to Oohara in post #30.

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To me, what's wrong with it, is that when a company releases so many minor variations of similarly-constructed products, that they have a poor understanding of why their first big hit was so successful. So, rather than risk making changes to the original hit phone that may prove to be unpopular, they start introducing new phones with slightly different feature sets, hoping to gain new users. This explains how the original Galaxy phone has turned into a Galaxy line of phones.

So to me, it is just a business point of a lack of understanding on Samsung's part.

Unless I'm misunderstanding you isn't that what Samsung is doing? Their galaxy line is evolving similar to that of the iPhone but quicker IMO. Meanwhile they have other products. The Note line which was popular and evolving Note, Note 2 and soon Note 3.

Now they are trying something different with a larger phone. If it works it works, if not its not like they don't have the Galaxy and Note.

If Apple ever made a crappy iPhone (just for example) then they are SOL. Their entire phone product line would be dead.

To me it seems like Samsung knows exactly what they are doing and so far its worked. And if it doesn't one day, maybe with this mega phone then so what. Lost some money for sure but they have plenty of phones to fall back on.

cynics
Apr 13, 2013, 09:02 AM
But isn't that the point for some people? Bigger screen for the same or close to the same money wins when they're shopping for a phone OR a TV?

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Samsung SHOULD be able to know without shipping the damn thing! You know a month or two ago, to put it in perspective, some sites (Macrumors included, I Think. I can't be bothered to look it up) were talking about names for the ipod Apple passed on, and in one case showing some internal developmental failed designs.

One thing that Apple does do that Samsung could take a lesson from is they do the majority of their testing and development in-house (Apple Maps and Siri notwithstanding), especially for expensive hardware like a new handset.

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Everyone's use case is different.

Oh great. Are we supposed to pretend Apple hasn't have had a dozen or more failed products now?

Are you sitting at home listening to your U2 special edition iPod, playing your Apple video game "thing" before you go out and take pictures with that pos QuickTake 200 camera?

Btw iOS autocorrected QuickTake with capitals. Is that thing still around?!

ChazUK
Apr 13, 2013, 09:42 AM
Samsung follows Apple strategy with one hero device - criticised for following Apple strategy.

Samsung doesn't follow Apple strategy with many deviations of their flagship phones - criticised for not following Apple strategy.

I have a feeling, no matter what Samsung pull out of their hat next, it'll be wrong in certain people's eyes.

The Note still gets mocked to this day (lulz, you need a handbag to carry it! It's not a good phone and its not a good tablet. You look like a dick talking on it. E.t.c), but continues to do well for Samsung.

Let's see where this next chapter in Samsung handsets takes them. It'll either crash and burn or be another suprising success despite its inability to be used one handed.


Remember people, this is perfect.
http://cargo.dcurt.is.s3.amazonaws.com/fourinches.png

Well, it was until 12th September 2012. :D

adder7712
Apr 13, 2013, 09:53 AM
Perhaps next Samsung will come out with a line of clothing with oversized pockets so your new Galaxy Mega 6.8" phablet will fit in pocket.

They can call them the Samsung S-Jeans and the the Samsung S-Shirt. Or maybe simply the Galaxy Pants.

"Bigger in the pocket, smaller in the crotch, for those who compensate."

That was genuinely funny, I lol'd.

Also, I've grown used to seeing people talking to their huge Galaxy Notes and Note IIs.

Toltepeceno
Apr 13, 2013, 10:59 AM
I like Samsung a lot but I'm disappointed they're following this ridiculous trend of making tablet sized phones. The Note II is pretty much the limit, it's just getting stupid now.

I don't get this attitude. As long as they make the smaller sizes then why be disappointed? Obviously there is a market, more choices is good.

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How do people really think bigger phones are silly? It I actually carried a tablet with me everywhere I went, I would rather have a note 2. It fits in my pocket and is a great blend of the two devices. I honestly have to believe they have never tried one...only seen one from afar. Obviously a mega is an exception, but the note 2 is no where near this massive unpocketable phone some say it is.

They think it is silly because of insecurity over what they own.

Mine is 4.5, but it doesn't bother me if some like larger.

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Seriously, does anyone have that small a penis that they need a phone that big? :p

Sounds like someone is jealous. I guess in your mind a larger, more comfortable car rather than jamming yourself in a mini has something to do with penis size?

nick_elt
Apr 13, 2013, 11:04 AM
just buy whichever suits you. I have a note 2 and never have any problems with it fitting in any my pockets. for ME the iphone is too small, but that doesn't mean its too small. why does everyone have to think their phone size is best for everyone and anyone else that thinks otherwise is stupid? you guys are the ones that look stupid, its just a phone guys. your all sounding like bible bashers.

Toltepeceno
Apr 13, 2013, 11:07 AM
just buy whichever suits you. I have a note 2 and never have any problems with it fitting in any my pockets. for ME the iphone is too small, but that doesn't mean its too small. why does everyone have to think their phone size is best for everyone and anyone else that thinks otherwise is stupid? you guys are the ones that look stupid, its just a phone guys. your all sounding like bible bashers.

Some people think all they do is right and anything else is wrong. I think it has to do with insecurity and quite possibly this is where penis size comes in.

Mr Kram
Apr 13, 2013, 11:18 AM
just give the ipad mini cellular capabilities and apple will be ahead in the size war. LMAO

nick_elt
Apr 13, 2013, 11:19 AM
just give the ipad mini cellular capabilities and apple will be ahead in the size war. LMAO

note 8.

appletoandroid
Apr 13, 2013, 12:04 PM
I like Samsung a lot but I'm disappointed they're following this ridiculous trend of making tablet sized phones. The Note II is pretty much the limit, it's just getting stupid now.

Get a GS3 Mini, best of Samsung and Android in a 4.3 inch screen. Infinitely better than the tiny iPhone!

cynics
Apr 13, 2013, 12:28 PM
Get a GS3 Mini, best of Samsung and Android in a 4.3 inch screen. Infinitely better than the tiny iPhone!

S3 mini is dumbed down in nearly every aspect. The main thing it has in common with the S3 is the name.

It's like comparing an iPad 4 to an iPad mini.

0dev
Apr 13, 2013, 01:44 PM
Get a GS3 Mini, best of Samsung and Android in a 4.3 inch screen. Infinitely better than the tiny iPhone!

I like the S3 and S4 screen sizes, I just think anything bigger than a Note II is stupid.

iPad5
Apr 13, 2013, 02:27 PM
We are back to the 80's with this gigantic phones

nfl46
Apr 13, 2013, 03:35 PM
Good lawddddd, that 6.3" is massive! I thought the Note 2 was HUGE in person, but if a phone is bigger than the Note 2, then that is just plain ridiculous! I am waiting on a small 5'1 to 5'4" girl to walk around with the 6.3" phone. Lol.

ucfgrad93
Apr 13, 2013, 03:41 PM
Might as well get a tablet. :rolleyes:

Agreed.

And the point is? A 20" TV looks small next to a 50" doesn't make either of them worse or better then the other.

Agreed. Size isn't the answer for everything.

I like Samsung a lot but I'm disappointed they're following this ridiculous trend of making tablet sized phones. The Note II is pretty much the limit, it's just getting stupid now.

Agreed.

At least Samsung gives you plenty of OPTIONS!! Which is all that matters

Agreed, Samsung does produce many phone sizes.

Theres options, then theres lets throw every screen size on to the wall and see what sticks.

Which seems to be Samsung's strategy.

macrem
Apr 13, 2013, 05:17 PM
Man, these Samsungs look tiny next to my iPad :cool:

ijohn.8.80
Apr 13, 2013, 05:43 PM
Sounds like someone is jealous. I guess in your mind a larger, more comfortable car rather than jamming yourself in a mini has something to do with penis size?

I'm quite happy with my tiny iPhone 4 thank you very much! No jealousy here. It was a joke Joyce. :p

No, a larger car has to do with environmental irresponsibility, a different kettle of fish altogether!

A large phablet is not for me, but that doesn't mean it's not right for others. I see people loving them on public transport, if they can get a seat!

strausd
Apr 13, 2013, 05:52 PM
Get a GS3 Mini, best of Samsung and Android in a 4.3 inch screen. Infinitely better than the tiny iPhone!

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/13/unannounced-motorola-android-phone-not-x-phone/

It's basically the Nexus 4 in a smaller screen size.

Irishman
Apr 13, 2013, 06:16 PM
Oh great. Are we supposed to pretend Apple hasn't have had a dozen or more failed products now?

Did I suggest that? Please make sure you've read what I actually write.

Words mean things. It's important to get it right before you type.

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Unless I'm misunderstanding you isn't that what Samsung is doing? Their galaxy line is evolving similar to that of the iPhone but quicker IMO. Meanwhile they have other products. The Note line which was popular and evolving Note, Note 2 and soon Note 3.

Now they are trying something different with a larger phone. If it works it works, if not its not like they don't have the Galaxy and Note.

If Apple ever made a crappy iPhone (just for example) then they are SOL. Their entire phone product line would be dead.

To me it seems like Samsung knows exactly what they are doing and so far its worked. And if it doesn't one day, maybe with this mega phone then so what. Lost some money for sure but they have plenty of phones to fall back on.

Yes, that is what Samsung is doing.

I'm saying that the strategy stems from a basic misunderstanding BY Samsung of why the original Galaxy phone was popular.

Toltepeceno
Apr 13, 2013, 06:24 PM
I'm quite happy with my tiny iPhone 4 thank you very much! No jealousy here. It was a joke Joyce. :p

No, a larger car has to do with environmental irresponsibility, a different kettle of fish altogether!

A large phablet is not for me, but that doesn't mean it's not right for others. I see people loving them on public transport, if they can get a seat!

I understand gertrude.;) I just don't get the people obsessed with what someone else gets. People wear different size gloves, stands to reason they like different size phones.

Maybe with the car, some can't fit in sub compact's though....like me.

ijohn.8.80
Apr 13, 2013, 06:43 PM
I understand gertrude.;) I just don't get the people obsessed with what someone else gets. People wear different size gloves, stands to reason they like different size phones.

Maybe with the car, some can't fit in sub compact's though....like me.

"Joke Joyce" is another bizarre Aussie saying.

I don't get the rampant fanboyism on the forums. You are right, each to their own. Personally, I like the idea of individuality and freedom of choice!

You need a muscle car then! Heaps of room there. :cool:

macman34
Apr 13, 2013, 08:05 PM
The Galaxy Mega is outdated, the Samsung Galaxy Monstrosity (TM) is the best phone money can buy. And by best I mean biggest.

Image (http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/130107_lenovo_table_tablet.jpg?w=414&h=242)

I loled so hard with this!!!

Comes with a dna kit to tinker with the pituitary gland a bit so one gets to really enjoy this phone with a nice case of acromegalia.

Toltepeceno
Apr 13, 2013, 08:18 PM
"Joke Joyce" is another bizarre Aussie saying.

I don't get the rampant fanboyism on the forums. You are right, each to their own. Personally, I like the idea of individuality and freedom of choice!

You need a muscle car then! Heaps of room there. :cool:

Ah, not familiar with the term.

I did visit perth way back there in the USN and ran into a lot of aussie sailors many places like the philippines. Great guys, you couldn't walk past a table of them without having a beer. We used to get together and gang up on the limeys.:)

adder7712
Apr 13, 2013, 08:30 PM
S3 mini is dumbed down in nearly every aspect. The main thing it has in common with the S3 is the name.

It's like comparing an iPad 4 to an iPad mini.

I believe a S II with Jelly Bean has better specs than the S III Mini.

hyteckit
Apr 13, 2013, 08:48 PM
Psshh.. wait until Samsung comes out the the Galaxy Titan 7" phone next year. It will totally dwarf the iPhone.

ChrisTX
Apr 13, 2013, 08:54 PM
I like Samsung a lot but I'm disappointed they're following this ridiculous trend of making tablet sized phones. The Note II is pretty much the limit, it's just getting stupid now.

The only problem is that every iteration of the Note gets bigger, and bigger. Yet more, and more popular. I do agree there has to be a limit somewhere, but something tells me these 2 new "mega" devices from Samsung are testers to see which of the 2 is more popular. The winner becomes the size of the Note 3.

Psshh.. wait until Samsung comes out the the Galaxy Titan 7" phone next year. It will totally dwarf the iPhone.
Check out the Asus FonePad
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hyteckit
Apr 13, 2013, 08:59 PM
Unless I'm misunderstanding you isn't that what Samsung is doing? Their galaxy line is evolving similar to that of the iPhone but quicker IMO. Meanwhile they have other products. The Note line which was popular and evolving Note, Note 2 and soon Note 3.

Now they are trying something different with a larger phone. If it works it works, if not its not like they don't have the Galaxy and Note.

If Apple ever made a crappy iPhone (just for example) then they are SOL. Their entire phone product line would be dead.

To me it seems like Samsung knows exactly what they are doing and so far its worked. And if it doesn't one day, maybe with this mega phone then so what. Lost some money for sure but they have plenty of phones to fall back on.


Diversifying your product line might gain you marketshare.

However, it's costly to make, maintain, and market. Sourcing parts for 1 product is a lot cheaper and easier than sourcing parts for 10 different products.

There's a reason why Apple makes over 250% more than Samsung does from smartphones.

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The only problem is that every iteration of the Note gets bigger, and bigger. Yet more, and more popular. I do agree there has to be a limit somewhere, but something tells me these 2 new "mega" devices from Samsung are testers to see which of the 2 is more popular. The winner becomes the size of the Note 3.

That's an awful guage. The Note is a unique product not just because of its size, but because it has the s pen. Thus it's called the Note.

That's like saying more and more people want smaller phones and tablets because iPhones sell more and more each year, and the iPad Mini is selling tons.

Different market segments for different customer base.

I bought the Note 2 for the s pen, not the size. Note 2 is too big as a phone and too small as a tablet. I would prefer a 8" note, but not as a smartphone replacement.

JHUFrank
Apr 14, 2013, 04:13 AM
I agree, this is a very intriguing concept. I think some phone designers will go here with the huge handsets. How about have the tablet phone but use a Bluetooth earpiece.

ijohn.8.80
Apr 14, 2013, 04:22 AM
Check out the Asus FonePad
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18fql4co90e6kjpg/original.jpg

OMG, I thought you were joking there! It's a real product (https://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_Fonepad/), a 7" phone... :eek:

Irishman
Apr 14, 2013, 09:16 AM
OMG, I thought you were joking there! It's a real product (https://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_Fonepad/), a 7" phone... :eek:

By the measure of some large phone junkies, Asus must be innovating more than anyone else because of this behemoth!

ChazUK
Apr 14, 2013, 09:19 AM
OMG, I thought you were joking there! It's a real product (https://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_Fonepad/), a 7" phone... :eek:

I'm hoping to have one come payday. :D

179.99 is a bargain price!

cynics
Apr 14, 2013, 09:34 AM
Did I suggest that? Please make sure you've read what I actually write.

Words mean things. It's important to get it right before you type.[COLOR="#808080"]


When someone said "so what if it fails" then you said.


Samsung SHOULD be able to know without shipping the damn thing!

Then you said Samsung should take a lesson from Apple.


One thing that Apple does do that Samsung could take a lesson from is they do the majority of their testing and development in-house (Apple Maps and Siri notwithstanding), especially for expensive hardware like a new handset.

I was under the impression that you thought Apple would have done differently by having a less of a "see what sticks" approach. When in fact that is how Apple got to where they are today but along the way the roadsides are littered with failed devices and software.

Maybe I'm still misunderstanding what you said. Since I am can you explain what you mean to me?

Kashsystems
Apr 14, 2013, 09:57 AM
OMG, I thought you were joking there! It's a real product (https://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_Fonepad/), a 7" phone... :eek:

This might be my dream phone...

I wish I was joking.

ChrisTX
Apr 14, 2013, 11:43 AM
OMG, I thought you were joking there! It's a real product (https://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/ASUS_Fonepad/), a 7" phone... :eek:

Haha, I wish I was joking. I need my phone to be at least pocketable. I'd hate to have to lug that thing around everywhere. What do you do with it when your hands are full, or at the gym, etc...? Too big IMO!

Irishman
Apr 14, 2013, 05:02 PM
When someone said "so what if it fails" then you said.



Then you said Samsung should take a lesson from Apple.



I was under the impression that you thought Apple would have done differently by having a less of a "see what sticks" approach. When in fact that is how Apple got to where they are today but along the way the roadsides are littered with failed devices and software.

Maybe I'm still misunderstanding what you said. Since I am can you explain what you mean to me?

The fact that Apple has had and continues to have failed products does not mean they do not have (primarily since Jobs' return in 1997) a tremendous focus and simplification of their product lines. I mean, he**, one of the FIRST things the man did was to eliminate the dozens of Mac skus being sold and to simplify the Mac lines into two - desktop and laptop, and 3 levels - good, better, best. This philosophy, strategy, whatever you want to call it, has served them well for 14+ years.

Samsung is now making some of the same mistakes Apple sans Jobs did - clutter up the lines, confusing the average consumer with "choices" that just cost developmental resources, manpower, supply chain, labor dollars, the whole manufacturing ball of wax - instead of honing and fine-tuning the few products that have caught the publics' eye in a major way, and profiting more in the process.

Apple is at its best and truest to itself when it is making those few things that they can make extremely well and profitably. Their R&D labs are full of products that will never see the light of day - rightfully so - because they don't make sense for this or that reason. Samsung could learn THAT lesson (not to beta-test products on the public and confuse smartphone buyers with questionable features and crowded product lines).

Does my position make more sense now?

cynics
Apr 14, 2013, 06:57 PM
The fact that Apple has had and continues to have failed products does not mean they do not have (primarily since Jobs' return in 1997) a tremendous focus and simplification of their product lines. I mean, he**, one of the FIRST things the man did was to eliminate the dozens of Mac skus being sold and to simplify the Mac lines into two - desktop and laptop, and 3 levels - good, better, best. This philosophy, strategy, whatever you want to call it, has served them well for 14+ years.

Samsung is now making some of the same mistakes Apple sans Jobs did - clutter up the lines, confusing the average consumer with "choices" that just cost developmental resources, manpower, supply chain, labor dollars, the whole manufacturing ball of wax - instead of honing and fine-tuning the few products that have caught the publics' eye in a major way, and profiting more in the process.

Apple is at its best and truest to itself when it is making those few things that they can make extremely well and profitably. Their R&D labs are full of products that will never see the light of day - rightfully so - because they don't make sense for this or that reason. Samsung could learn THAT lesson (not to beta-test products on the public and confuse smartphone buyers with questionable features and crowded product lines).

Does my position make more sense now?

Makes perfect sense.

However I think they are fine tuning there successful product lines. Galaxy, Note, HDTV Series, even their appliance lines. I even think they are doing it faster and better then Apple. I was gonna buy a new iMac until the specs were released. No optic drive? No thanks.

At the same time they (Samsung) are trying new things.

Lindsford
Apr 14, 2013, 07:23 PM
Makes perfect sense.

However I think they are fine tuning there successful product lines. Galaxy, Note, HDTV Series, even their appliance lines. I even think they are doing it faster and better then Apple. I was gonna buy a new iMac until the specs were released. No optic drive? No thanks.

At the same time they (Samsung) are trying new things.

When Samsung first began to take over HDTV market they had Numbered 3-9 Series LCDs. Essentially 7-13 different models with different sizes.
Now, they have multiple lines within each line, they like to clutter the market, and rely heavily on their name even if it's a sub-par product with a Samsung logo slapped on top of it.

cynics
Apr 14, 2013, 07:33 PM
When Samsung first began to take over HDTV market they had Numbered 3-9 Series LCDs. Essentially 7-13 different models with different sizes.
Now, they have multiple lines within each line, they like to clutter the market, and rely heavily on their name even if it's a sub-par product with a Samsung logo slapped on top of it.

And if Apple made HDTV's I'd be forced to get all everything or nothing. Basically pay for stuff I don't want and not have an option for things I do want.

I really don't see how Samsung "clutters" the market. If someone is brain dead or just to lazy to do a couple minutes of research it could seem overwhelming.

Regardless of how I feel you said "When Samsung first began to take over HDTV market" in a conversation of how their business model isn't good. Unless taking over the market is a bad business model?

Irishman
Apr 14, 2013, 08:16 PM
Makes perfect sense.

However I think they are fine tuning there successful product lines. Galaxy, Note, HDTV Series, even their appliance lines. I even think they are doing it faster and better then Apple. I was gonna buy a new iMac until the specs were released. No optic drive? No thanks.

At the same time they (Samsung) are trying new things.

As far as major appliances go? Samsung has earned my trust and my dollars (until they F up, then I'll go somewhere else). We have a front-load set of Samsung Steam washer and dryer that have given us perfect service for 4 years and done everything you could expect industry-leading devices to give. We're looking into a new kitchen set (French-Door fridge, dishwasher, OTR Microwave, and smooth-top Range) and will either go Samsung or Kitchenaid.

Lindsford
Apr 15, 2013, 06:57 PM
And if Apple made HDTV's I'd be forced to get all everything or nothing. Basically pay for stuff I don't want and not have an option for things I do want.

I really don't see how Samsung "clutters" the market. If someone is brain dead or just to lazy to do a couple minutes of research it could seem overwhelming.

Regardless of how I feel you said "When Samsung first began to take over HDTV market" in a conversation of how their business model isn't good. Unless taking over the market is a bad business model?

So in my quote not necessarily sure where I even mention it's a bad business model, Are you sure you're reading the proper paragraph? Or do your reading comprehension skills just need a little fine tuning?

Regardless of my opinion, they flood the market with models and I doubt you could begin to tell me distinctive features over their full range of models in just "a couple of minutes".

You don't see how they clutter the market?
Let's see, how many 120HZ ( I'm going off panel refresh rate not marketed CMR BS ) 55" HDTVs they have. 10.
Granted some are 3D, Some are not, Some are Wifi, Some are not. But 10 different HDTVS for similar specs is a bit excessive.
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55EH6000FXZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55ES6003FXZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55EH6030FXZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55EH6050FXZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55EH6070FXZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55ES6100FXZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55ES6150FXZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55ES6500FXZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55ES6550FXZA
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55ES6580FXZA

I know what I'm talking about, plus I own one myself :)
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55ES7100FXZA