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medea
Dec 13, 2002, 09:24 PM
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0212/13.boot.php
Apple today confirmed that several of its current Macintosh configurations would be able to boot into Mac OS 9 until June 2003. While speculation was that Apple would be making such a move to accommodate customers of QuarkXPress, which is currently only available in an OS 9 version, Apple also pointed to its education customers as a reason for the move.

"We are pleased to report that education customers are rapidly adopting Mac OS X, and are now ordering over 50 percent of their Macs with Mac OS X as the default OS," Apple said in a statement given to MacCentral today. "Apple expects this percentage to climb to over 75 percent by the start of the next education buying season this April."

Apple said that certain models of the current product line would be made available to educators until June of 2003 to help the transition of educational institutions.

"To accommodate the last 25 percent who still wish to buy their Macs with OS 9 installed as the default OS, Apple will continue to offer our Education customers some configurations of the current eMac, iBook, and CRT iMac product lines that will boot into Mac OS 9 until June 2003," the statement says.

Apple will also be offering its design professionals that use Quark the option to buy a Mac that will boot into OS 9.

"Apple's professional customers are rapidly adopting Mac OS X, with more than 80 percent now choosing Mac OS X as their default OS," Apple's statement to MacCentral reads. "This past September, Apple announced that starting in January 2003 all new Mac models will only boot into Mac OS X, while retaining the ability to run most Mac OS 9 applications using Mac OS X's 'Classic' software. To accommodate a minority of our pro customers still running Mac OS 9 applications such as QuarkXPress, Apple will continue to offer a 1.25 GHz dual processor Power Mac that will boot into Mac OS 9 until June 30, 2003."

The statements today from Apple do not totally go against Steve Jobs' announcement at Apple Expo Paris that all new Macs would only boot into Mac OS X in 2003. In his keynote address Jobs said that all new Macs built in 2003 would boot into OS X only -- Apple's statements today say they will offer certain configurations of their current product to customers that still want the OS 9 booting option.

arn
Dec 13, 2002, 10:41 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/12/20021210133040.shtml

whfsdude
Dec 13, 2002, 10:49 PM
the CRT iMac lives another year :D

barkmonster
Dec 14, 2002, 06:19 AM
So if you run Quark, have thousands to spend on the current top of range model or you're a student you can buy a mac that's actually compatable with almost all Mac software. If you're not you can't and have to use OS X full time or just look for a used model that boots OS 9 ?

That's just plain stupid and pretty much says apple don't think home users or hobbyists are important enough to be given the option. Personally speaking I wouldn't buy a new mac that only boots into OS X until there's way more software I'd want that run with 100% compatability under OS X or Classic and those PPC970s are also something worth waiting for too.

irmongoose
Dec 14, 2002, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by barkmonster
So if you run Quark, have thousands to spend on the current top of range model or you're a student you can buy a mac that's actually compatable with almost all Mac software. If you're not you can't and have to use OS X full time or just look for a used model that boots OS 9 ?

That's just plain stupid and pretty much says apple don't think home users or hobbyists are important enough to be given the option. Personally speaking I wouldn't buy a new mac that only boots into OS X until there's way more software I'd want that run with 100% compatability under OS X or Classic and those PPC970s are also something worth waiting for too.

Apple doesn't want to hurt its customers, but they have to do this in order for developers to realise that OS 9 is DEAD, and that it is time to move on to OS X. By not allowing machines to boot into 9, they are trying to persuade the developers into making OS X versions of their software. This is a necessary step in the conversion to X, and if Apple doesn't do this, we will have to keep OS 9 lagging behind while we move onto OS 11, 12 and so on.

Apple is moving to the future, and if developers haven't got on the bandwagon by this time, it pretty much means they won't, unless Apple does something about it. If new machines can't use their software, nobody buys their software, and then they don't make anymore money. So what do they have to do? Move to OS X. It's just the only way that is going to work.




irmongoose

medea
Dec 14, 2002, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by irmongoose


Apple doesn't want to hurt its customers, but they have to do this in order for developers to realise that OS 9 is DEAD, and that it is time to move on to OS X. By not allowing machines to boot into 9, they are trying to persuade the developers into making OS X versions of their software. This is a necessary step in the conversion to X, and if Apple doesn't do this, we will have to keep OS 9 lagging behind while we move onto OS 11, 12 and so on.

Apple is moving to the future, and if developers haven't got on the bandwagon by this time, it pretty much means they won't, unless Apple does something about it. If new machines can't use their software, nobody buys their software, and then they don't make anymore money. So what do they have to do? Move to OS X. It's just the only way that is going to work.

irmongoose

I completely agree with you irmongoose, and the developers do need to get on the ball, but that is was doesnt make sense here, why in the world would Apple keep OS 9 machines just for a company like Quark who has yet to get on the ball, they are lagging way behind with a OS X version of Xpress and this is only going to help them slack more.....

Come on, Developers! Developers! Developers!

edesignuk
Dec 14, 2002, 02:46 PM
This has been expected for some time now, and as others have already said, this is a necessary step to force slacking develpoers to get their a$$'s in gear.

wdlove
Dec 14, 2002, 08:51 PM
Is the an indication that Apple will not release a major hardware upgrade till MWNY? Will the major upgrade come with Mac OS X v 10.3?

pantagruel
Dec 14, 2002, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
Is the an indication that Apple will not release a major hardware upgrade till MWNY? Will the major upgrade come with Mac OS X v 10.3?
I hope not because Jaguar has not lived up to be all it can be and though I agreed with the upgrade from 10 to 10.2 I wouldnt pay again already for 10.3.