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MacRumors
Apr 16, 2013, 11:40 AM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/03/mailbox.jpgJust a day after rolling out an updated app (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/15/mailbox-update-adds-better-snooze-controls-and-improved-swiping/) with several new features and enhancements, the team behind popular Gmail management app Mailbox has announced (http://www.mailboxapp.com/blog/?p=1#mailbox-now-available-without-the-wait) that it has removed the reservation system that had previously left some interested users waiting up to several weeks to gain access to the service.Good news! Mailbox is now available without having to wait in line. After 10 weeks of around-the-clock hard work, our engineering team has scaled the Mailbox service to deliver over 100 million messages per day (and growing). We believe we can now confidently handle new users as they sign up, so we've pulled down the reservation system.Less than a month ago, Mailbox announced that it had filled over one million reservations (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/21/mailbox-fills-one-million-reservations-updates-app-with-new-shake-to-undo-feature/), with over 450,000 people still on the reservation list at that time.

As announced last month, Mailbox has also been acquired by Dropbox (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/15/dropbox-acquires-mailbox-will-accelerate-rollout/), with the two teams keeping their apps separate but drawing on their complementary resources and expertise to improve both services.

Article Link: Mailbox Removes Reservation System After Server Boost (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/16/mailbox-removes-reservation-system-after-server-boost/)



bushido
Apr 16, 2013, 11:44 AM
i never got it to work actually. told me to change something in the Gmail settings which i couldnt find and i was like meh whatever

Xenomorph
Apr 16, 2013, 11:51 AM
Ditto.

I sat through the 100,000+ wait, finally got access to the app, but then it said I need to adjust IMAP settings to unhide several folders, including "All Mail" (I do NOT want that visible from IMAP clients).

Basically, the app is unusable.

I use Gmail with IMAP clients like Thunderbird and Apple Mail. Having all folders (such as "All Mail") visible to the client means it will be downloading a ton of extra data. Everything in Inbox is in All Mail. Everything in my dozen sub-folders is in All Mail. Everything is already in "All Mail" as well as at least one other folder. That works fine from the web client, but not with an IMAP client.

I'm not going to change how I work with Gmail in every other program just so this one app has access to stuff I don't want it to have access to.

No, thanks.

darkslide29
Apr 16, 2013, 12:07 PM
After waiting weeks, I uninstalled the app after the first day. It just didnt live up to the hype of making me wanna leave what I currently use. I almost felt bad deleting the app, wondering if it's just me not 'getting it'.

BvizioN
Apr 16, 2013, 12:09 PM
This App was probably the one that had the shortest time in my iPhone.
Ironically I had to wait weeks for it.... 665000 I had ahead on the Q.

lightmyway
Apr 16, 2013, 12:11 PM
By far my favorite app this year. Logical UI, great design. Has me working on Inbox Zero for the first time in years.

FoundAHalo
Apr 16, 2013, 12:40 PM
By far my favorite app this year. Logical UI, great design. Has me working on Inbox Zero for the first time in years.

Ditto! It's not for everyone though, but it's really refreshing once you commit to it (if your workflow allows for it).

TheAppleFairy
Apr 16, 2013, 01:15 PM
After waiting weeks, I uninstalled the app after the first day. It just didnt live up to the hype of making me wanna leave what I currently use. I almost felt bad deleting the app, wondering if it's just me not 'getting it'.

I gave it three days. It showed potential, but it's not ready yet. I still think the mail.app works best.

pietrociao
Apr 16, 2013, 01:41 PM
I think it's the best email app.

Astroexe
Apr 16, 2013, 02:06 PM
It's a fantastic App.. but man I wish I could use it with my other mail accounts on other servers. Gmail is fantastic and I use it a lot.. but a lot of my stuff is still dragging on my Hotmail account and -that- is probably what I'd like to get to 0 first.

wiz329
Apr 16, 2013, 02:52 PM
Its a great app that has potential. However, the requirement to change my IMAP settings for gmail was what caused me to delete it.

Kilamite
Apr 16, 2013, 03:18 PM
Ditto.

I sat through the 100,000+ wait, finally got access to the app, but then it said I need to adjust IMAP settings to unhide several folders, including "All Mail" (I do NOT want that visible from IMAP clients).

Basically, the app is unusable.

I use Gmail with IMAP clients like Thunderbird and Apple Mail. Having all folders (such as "All Mail") visible to the client means it will be downloading a ton of extra data. Everything in Inbox is in All Mail. Everything in my dozen sub-folders is in All Mail. Everything is already in "All Mail" as well as at least one other folder. That works fine from the web client, but not with an IMAP client.

Incorrect. The emails in the folders are just aliases, there's no duplicate emails because it sits in more than one folder (Google calls them labels).

If you go to www.gmail.com and log in, on the left hand side, scroll down to 'manage labels' and you can choose what folders (labels) appear in IMAP. That's probably what Mailbox support meant when they said change IMAP settings, they meant on Google's server.

gotluck
Apr 16, 2013, 03:18 PM
I'll give it a shot.

aajeevlin
Apr 16, 2013, 03:21 PM
After waiting weeks, I uninstalled the app after the first day. It just didnt live up to the hype of making me wanna leave what I currently use. I almost felt bad deleting the app, wondering if it's just me not 'getting it'.

Same here, waited for about 5 days. Didn't fine it that useful after all. My own way of email management is better.

hexonxonx
Apr 16, 2013, 03:23 PM
Not interested now. After trying the Gmail app and loving the instant notifications, I don't need anything else.

BaldiMac
Apr 16, 2013, 03:27 PM
Incorrect. The emails in the folders are just aliases, there's no duplicate emails because it sits in more than one folder.

That's not true. In a typical desktop email client, Gmail labels are treated as IMAP folders. So a copy of the message is saved in All Mail and additional copies for each label you placed on the message (including "Inbox").

Kilamite
Apr 16, 2013, 03:35 PM
That's not true. In a typical desktop email client, Gmail labels are treated as IMAP folders. So a copy of the message is saved in All Mail and additional copies for each label you placed on the message (including "Inbox").

http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/wkDYuUOAVYA

BaldiMac
Apr 16, 2013, 03:38 PM
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/wkDYuUOAVYA

I'm not sure what you are linking to here. That appears to be discussing the Gmail web app. We were discussing accessing Gmail through a desktop IMAP client such as OS X Mail or Thunderbird.

turtlez
Apr 16, 2013, 06:50 PM
I waited about two weeks, after using it for the first time I realised why I disliked viewing email on my phone again. haha, tiny screen is just not for me. Though it is the best iPhone email app

WissMAN
Apr 16, 2013, 08:22 PM
I like many of my fellow friends on here tried it. I gave up after a week. In my opinion, the app wants me to change how I read and move/store mail instead of understanding my current way of working.

The Mailbox team assumes the way I organize and read mail is insufficient and their way is better.

I liked some of the features.

thefourthpope
Apr 16, 2013, 08:29 PM
but then it said I need to adjust IMAP settings to unhide several folders, including "All Mail" (I do NOT want that visible from IMAP clients).

Whoa. How did I not know there was an option to hide All Mail?
http://satireknight.wikispaces.com/file/view/mind-blown.jpg/381910070/mind-blown.jpg

kot
Apr 17, 2013, 03:36 AM
Why does a mail client (MUA!!!) need a third-party server in the first place? This sounds both lame and fishy.

glenbogle
Apr 17, 2013, 06:07 AM
Have been using it for a few weeks and it definitely isn't for everyone; I'd say it's for hardly anyone.

The only email account I'd like to use the Mailbox system with is my work one, but, my work being as it is, I don't want to carry my work emails around with me on my phone, it's unnecessary. Also, my work emails aren't through Gmail.

It could also work for people who still use email for lots of communication, but I imagine for most people, Facebook and What'sApp and iMessage have filled that need.

So basically all Mailbox is for me is a slightly better way to look at all the mailing lists to which I'm signed up, and flick away ones which I don't read. Which is about as fast as selecting multiple and clicking "mark checked as read".

I can't really see the MASS audience for this app. If you're self-employed and get a lot of emails and use Gmail to manage them, then maybe it's for you.

roadbloc
Apr 17, 2013, 06:34 AM
Sparrow 2.0. Google will buy it before long and y'all be upset and deleting it.

Kilamite
Apr 17, 2013, 07:01 AM
I'm not sure what you are linking to here. That appears to be discussing the Gmail web app. We were discussing accessing Gmail through a desktop IMAP client such as OS X Mail or Thunderbird.

Ah never mind that link then.

If you read my original post, I edited it on how to stop those folders/labels on IMAP which solves Xenomorph's problem.

BaldiMac
Apr 17, 2013, 07:45 AM
If you read my original post, I edited it on how to stop those folders/labels on IMAP which solves Xenomorph's problem.

It doesn't resolve his problem. He would like to have "All Mail" hidden from desktop mail clients. However, Mailbox requires that "All Mail" is NOT hidden in the IMAP settings.

shorn
Apr 17, 2013, 11:40 AM
The app shows a lot of potential. Sure, I wish you could have it for all accounts, with a desktop companion, but its a step in the right direction.

I'm just pleased that it still appears to have a life since Dropbox bought it, unlike Sparrow that was allowed to die.

Unfortunately I would be loathed to use it as a main email app on iOS until you have the option to set a default mail client.

nburwell
Apr 17, 2013, 11:48 AM
The app shows a lot of potential. Sure, I wish you could have it for all accounts, with a desktop companion, but its a step in the right direction.


I agree with you. Especially since I'm currently using Mailbox for my Gmail account and the Mail app for my Yahoo mail. But 99% of my emails are received through my Gmail account anyway.

It's a great app. I know there are downsides to it, but it has worked for me from day 1. I'm sure at some point I will resort back to the Mail app, but since I waited 2+ weeks "in line" for it, I might as well use. It has simplified how I use email now.

Michael Goff
Apr 17, 2013, 12:02 PM
Bring on the iPad app.

Kilamite
Apr 17, 2013, 12:21 PM
It doesn't resolve his problem. He would like to have "All Mail" hidden from desktop mail clients. However, Mailbox requires that "All Mail" is NOT hidden in the IMAP settings.

Ah sorry so it does.

BaldiMac
Apr 17, 2013, 01:19 PM
Unfortunately I would be loathed to use it as a main email app on iOS until you have the option to set a default mail client.

Default email client? I'm not sure what the practical advantages there are. Third-party apps just use the system email sheet to send messages. As long as you add the account to the iOS Mail app, set it to manual fetch, and turn off notification for that account, there is no practical difference as to which email client is default.

shorn
Apr 17, 2013, 01:25 PM
I agree with you. Especially since I'm currently using Mailbox for my Gmail account and the Mail app for my Yahoo mail. But 99% of my emails are received through my Gmail account anyway.

It's a great app. I know there are downsides to it, but it has worked for me from day 1. I'm sure at some point I will resort back to the Mail app, but since I waited 2+ weeks "in line" for it, I might as well use. It has simplified how I use email now.

I think its a great app, and is extremely polished for a V1. The snooze feature alone makes it worthwhile keeping, and the push notifications are VERY fast.

WordMasterRice
Apr 17, 2013, 01:26 PM
Default email client? I'm not sure what the practical advantages there are. Third-party apps just use the system email sheet to send messages. As long as you add the account to the iOS Mail app, set it to manual fetch, and turn off notification for that account, there is no practical difference as to which email client is default.

I hadn't thought of that but that's a pretty good idea, aside from the signature but that shouldn't be a big deal.

shorn
Apr 17, 2013, 01:27 PM
Default email client? I'm not sure what the practical advantages there are. Third-party apps just use the system email sheet to send messages. As long as you add the account to the iOS Mail app, set it to manual fetch, and turn off notification for that account, there is no practical difference as to which email client is default.

Click any email link on a website and you'll have mail open, and not mailbox. If you decide to use a different app for email, then you should have the option to complete ALL email tasks with it IMO.

BaldiMac
Apr 17, 2013, 02:34 PM
Click any email link on a website and you'll have mail open, and not mailbox. If you decide to use a different app for email, then you should have the option to complete ALL email tasks with it IMO.

Mail doesn't open. An email sheet just slides in. You stay in the current app.

Yes, someone may want advanced editing features in sending a message, but that's not really what Mailbox is about.

shorn
Apr 17, 2013, 07:21 PM
Mail doesn't open. An email sheet just slides in. You stay in the current app.

Yes, someone may want advanced editing features in sending a message, but that's not really what Mailbox is about.

Just been looking at this again. You're right, it's not actually too bad, however, it would be a tad annoying if you are used to Mailboxes interface for composing, and were then forced into a slightly different one in this scenario.
No biggy, just think it lacks some consistency.