Mac OS X 10.4.3 Imminent?

[MacRumors]

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ThinkSecret reports (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0510australia.html) that over the weekend, Apple seeded developers with build 8F45 of Mac OS X 10.4.3. The latest build has no "known issues" according to the rumor site, suggesting that the update is approaching release status.

Mac OS X 10.4.3 will weigh in at around 100MB and include more than 550 fixes and improvements

Few details of the specific improvements are available. Appleinsider posts (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1341) a similar report.

[mad jew]

100MB fix. I'm hoping for big things. :)

[Dagless]

100mb? 550 fixes? sounds savvy

[G5Unit]

Hopefully that glitch with the 1.8Ghz PMs will be fixed.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Here's to a more stable Safari, to make it stop crashing every other time I visit and then close the tab to a site with shady CGI programming, and maybe a bit of tinkering into whatever makes iTunes 6 and 6.0.1 beach-ball excessively... :(

Other than that I'm actually quite happy with 10.4.2... ;)

[Bear]

It might finally be time to upgrademy PowerBook to Tiger.

I was waiting on a third party application to work under Tiger and then I didn't have time to do the upgrade. And then 10.4.3 became imminent. Well, as soon as it's released (and confirmed not to screw up PowerBooks), I'll do the upgrade.

My PowerMac is already at Tiger - it didn't have the dependency on the third party app.

[IEatApples]

generally a good indicator that the update is almost ready for public consumption.
Can't wait, I'm so hungry:p

[_bnkr612]

Let's just hope they fix iTunes and add "show multiple songs" so you can filter your iPod.

Oh, and also fix Safari so when I accidentally hit command-q (while using tabs) I get a prompt asking me if I want to close all tabs.

And Santa, I want a sparklin' wizard to show up when I use pages...

[Hattig]

I'm looking forward to this update. I think it'll be the one that turns Tiger into, well, a Tiger. One that roars. Etc.

[bentley]

hopefully 10.4.3 will be the first of the stable builds, I've been having a few kernel panics since 10.4.2

[MacSA]

I thought 10.4.2 was supposed to fix all the little bugs?

100MB? LOL :eek:

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Oh, and also fix Safari so when I accidentally hit command-q (while using tabs) I get a prompt asking me if I want to close all tabs. No problem, just install Taboo (http://www.ocdev.com/). :)

[TheSpaz]

I just want to be able to print over my Airport Extreme again and I also want the menu slowness fixed. *Crosses Fingers*

[Billicus]

Sounds good... I think they took their time with this one so that there won't be any major flaws, and only good solid fixes.

[GroundLoop]

Hopefully, this update is released at some point this week since I will be on travel next week and will not have internet access. I guess it doesn't really matter though since I haven't had a single issue with my PowerBook with 10.4.2.

I just like having the latest software. ;)

Hickman

[Jesus]

My iMac's finder implodes every day or so, making me restart Finder, and I have had 5+kernel panics across my iMac and PowerBooks. I can't wait.

Jesus

[Dagless]

i hope they get that Q2DExtreme thingy working. that could be very pretty :) whatever it does!

[wordmunger]

This might be what finally gets me to upgrade. OTOH, anyone know when 10.5 is coming out?

[doofy]

i hope they get that Q2DExtreme thingy working. that could be very pretty :) whatever it does!


yea that would be awesome, would make alot of machines alot faster!

[Jomoma]

I'm praying that they fix the iBook Airport problem, it drives me crazy.

[wrldwzrd89]

The issue that bugs me the most in Tiger is a long delay between keystrokes being recognized in various aspects of Spotlight. If Apple could get this fixed, I'd use Spotlight much more.

[unage85]

Back in the day of Jaguar and Panther, it seemed Apple released an update every month! They're sure taking their time with Tiger. 500 updates..?.. that's huge! Hmm... looks like were gonna have this cat for a while yet.

Bring it on!

- Den

[DavidCar]

It is interesting that the AppleInsider article says the Quad uses liquid cooling. I've not heard that previously.

[bodeh6]

I'm praying that they fix the iBook Airport problem, it drives me crazy.

What airport problem? I have an iBook and airport has caused no problems for me.

[spencecb]

This might be what finally gets me to upgrade. OTOH, anyone know when 10.5 is coming out?


10.5 won't be coming out until late 2006, early 2007...we haven't even seen a demo of it...I'm sure Steve will do that at WWDC in June...so we have a while to wait.

[sandau]

hrmph, maybe someone beyond 'an intern that quit' has looked at faxing cause its the buggiest bit of software ever to come out of cupertino.

[sakasune]

And Santa, I want a sparklin' wizard to show up when I use pages...

Would you like one that looks like a paper clip (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clippy)?

[m-dogg]

Cool! I just finally upgraded to Tiger over the weekend.

Slightly off topic - When I upgraded, I did an archive & install, which left a "Previous System 1" folder on my hard drive. I've gone though all my programs and everything seems fine, so do I need to keep this folder for any reason? Or is it okay to delete it now?

Thanks

m-dogg

[Stella]

Woo, a new formatting tool bar!

I find 10.4.2 pretty stable, worlds apart from the initial release.

Hope 10.4.3 brings some new functionality ( probably minimal )...

[nbs2]

I think this is a great thing and am always happy to have my computer a bit snappier, and I love Apple to death, and I hope no one can ever trace this question back to me, but...how are we so happy and yet mocking of SP2? It seems the same to me, only this is a DL and I doubt will be available on CD for the dial up users.

This just seems like a lot of updates at once. Which is good, since they shouldn't break each other. But... (and yes, I'm voting this story positive)

[silvergunuk]

As long as it plays dvds without scrambled image and sound i'm all for it. bring it on!

[shooterlv]

Mark my words...


Mac OS X 10.5 Imminent

That is all.

[Dwarf84396]

Cool! I just finally upgraded to Tiger over the weekend.

Slightly off topic - When I upgraded, I did an archive & install, which left a "Previous System 1" folder on my hard drive. I've gone though all my programs and everything seems fine, so do I need to keep this folder for any reason? Or is it okay to delete it now?

Thanks

m-dogg

M-dogg,

As long as you have all of the files that you need from out of that directory, then you are good, and you're clear to remove it.

[Chundles]

Mark my words...


Mac OS X 10.5 Imminent

That is all.


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WHOOO!!! HAHA!! HAAAAHHH!!!! HAaaahhh.... hooooo.... heeerrrrrr...

Ohhh...

Oh, woo, erh, woah, gee, thanks for the laugh buddy.

Always a good pick-me-up.

[Chundles]

As long as it plays dvds without scrambled image and sound i'm all for it. bring it on!

Dude! You've got a stuffed DVD drive!

That's definitely a problem with the drive, I'd get it checked as soon as possible.

[ipacmm]

I really hope that they fix all of the issues in os x server, with mysql and php.

Can't wait to download.

[puckhead193]

I don't know if its the OS or itunes but when i plug my ipod in and it launches itunes, itunes freezes......it did that for 4.9/5 and 6

[manu chao]

Back in the day of Jaguar and Panther, it seemed Apple released an update every month! They're sure taking their time with Tiger. 500 updates..?.. that's huge! Hmm... looks like were gonna have this cat for a while yet.
- Den

It was about every two months with Panther, Jaguar and Puma.

With Tiger coming out at the end of April, 10.4.1 by mid-may, 10.4.2 mid-July and 10.4.3 end of October (possibly), the average would be again two months but then 10.4.1 should be seen rather as an stop-gap release and therefore the real - intended - frequency of updates might be closer to three months.

[russed]

bring it on, a major update for anything is long overdue!

and please do it before i have to go back to using dial up again!

[Vanilla]

I would like to see iDisk be as transparent as clicking on an external drive, rather than the dog-slow, walking through treacle experience it is currently.

I'd also like to see the calculator have results edited rather than just a string of numbers e.g. 1,234,567.00 rather than 1234567.00 They do it for the calculator widget why not the main one?

Vanilla

[_bnkr612]

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~class.12003.engl.313/cps/ted/tedwiz1.gif


http://www.poolmandan.com/image/6664486.JPG

These scream Macintosh.

[manu chao]

Just realized that Tiger is out for half a year now and Veritas has not managed yet to make their Net-Backup client compatible with it (it took at least half year with 10.3 and 10.2 as well but that is no excuse).

It probably does not help that Veritas is owned by that very Mac-supportive company Symantec.

[m-dogg]

M-dogg,

As long as you have all of the files that you need from out of that directory, then you are good, and you're clear to remove it.

sounds good. thanks!

[AlmostThere]

Pleeease can people either put a link or brief summary of the problem, rather than just saying, "I hope it fixes...."

e.g.
I really hope that they fix all of the issues in os x server, with mysql and php.

What problems, I have just set up two Xserves with MySQL and PHP and both are running fine. What don't I know about? What is going to go wrong? Am I going to be affected?

[RIP]

"Few details of the specific improvements are available."

Yet we are being told of 550 fixes? Someone is lying.

[nagromme]

I hope 100 is the combo update :o

I must have amazing patience, or laziness, or something. I have WANTED to get Tiger on my main machine so I can use it full time... but my HD is so full I have managed to put it off this long. Now I'll be STARTING with 10.4.3. Waiting has its privileges...

[dogbone]

I don't have any issues at all with 10.4.2 yet I'm still looking forward to the update. Why is this?

[yg17]

Hopefully that glitch with the 1.8Ghz PMs will be fixed.
What glitch? I have a dual 1.8 G5 and no problems here

[samh004]

I can't wait for this update, it's certainly big. I haven't had many issues with 10.4.2 so I hope it only repairs things and doesn't create any new problems.

[wdlove]

I'm very excited about this update. Hopefully the timing will work out for my switch to Tiger. That way I can get it all set up at once.

[pgwalsh]

Here's to a more stable Safari, to make it stop crashing every other time I visit and then close the tab to a site with shady CGI programming, and maybe a bit of tinkering into whatever makes iTunes 6 and 6.0.1 beach-ball excessively... :(

Other than that I'm actually quite happy with 10.4.2... ;)

I had similar problems. I booted from the 10.4 disk and used disk utilities. Problems fixed. You could also try reinstalling Safari as well.

[capvideo]

Oh, and also fix Safari so when I accidentally hit command-q (while using tabs) I get a prompt asking me if I want to close all tabs.

I agree that this would be nice (though it should also check for more than one *window* open, too).

You can completely disable the quit keyboard shortcut fairly simply if you're willing to hit the command line:

http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/?ART=248

Once you disable the quit shortcut, you need to use the menu to quit Safari. But I never quit Safari nowadays anyway.

Jerry

[fartheststar]

10.5 won't be coming out until late 2006, early 2007...we haven't even seen a demo of it...I'm sure Steve will do that at WWDC in June...so we have a while to wait.

Good. I just upgraded myself from 10.2 to 10.4. Panther came out a month and a half after I got my G4 and it didn't qualify for an upgrade at the time. Very pleased with Tiger.... but there are a few more beach balls... (not many). Can't wait for "more fixes". At 100 meg, that's a lot of replacing going on.

[wdlove]

It would be nice if the release would tomorrow. That would make for a 3rd big and awesome Wednesday in October. One can dream.

[bit density]

With the Ajax craze, every link on every website seems to be a piece of JS these days. I have seen pages take nearly 10-30 seconds from click to movement.

I've gotta tell you, from my point of view, 99% of the AJAX I have seen out there is crap that makes my web experience worse, not better. I hope people get over this fad soon.

[CubaTBird]

could it be released today? :confused:

[seashellz]

ah, yes....we should see 10.5 come out around Dec 2006-a good six months to a year before the problem-plagued, still-not-finished Vista/Longhorn comes out.
And by then it will be no contest. Or, they may rush it out to meet 10.5, and have the whole thing crash and burn right right before their eyes...
:D
10.4.3 is 100-110 mb? a Combo would then be around 150 mb...

[twoodcc]

looking forward to this. 100mb seems like it should be good

[DIXIE]

A couple of months ago, Apple put forth the thought of 10.4.2 being the new "out-of-the-box" retail version of Tiger. Do you think this 500-550 bug correction qualifies 10.4.3 for Apple Retail Store status as a direct off-the-shelf version?

What about pre-installing on all new computer purchases as of the release date? :) :D

[Mr. Fred]

What glitch? I have a dual 1.8 G5 and no problems here

Your model isn't affected, only the single 1.8GHz models with the 600MHz bus.

Apple have put a page up about it here:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302212

There is also a website dedicated to the problems with this model:

http://www.g5freeze.com/

Hopefully it will be fixed in this update as there are a lot of upset owners out there.

[mm2005]

... I never quit Safari nowadays anyway.
Me neither, Safari usually quits by itself :p (the other times I Force Quit :eek: )

[daijones]

Anyone else having problems with .Mac? I get frequent sync failings, random "your machine is not registered" messages, multiple copies of my calendar published, and a local iDisk that is not only dog slow in its own right, but slows down my entire finder and open/save dialogues in other apps, and regularly causes Office to hang. I've been very close to cancelling my membership for months, but I keep waiting for the next update to fix it. If 10.4.3 doesn't do it I'll probably kick it into touch

[bousozoku]

could it be released today? :confused:

It could be but I expect Thursday.

[plastique45]

My iMac's finder implodes every day or so, making me restart Finder, and I have had 5+kernel panics across my iMac and PowerBooks. I can't wait.

Jesus

This is not an issue with 10.4.2. Are you running any Norton software? If so, remove it. Otherwise, it could be a RAM issue, a FireWire device issue etc.

[miloblithe]

ah, yes....we should see 10.5 come out around Dec 2006-a good six months to a year before the problem-plagued, still-not-finished Vista/Longhorn comes out.

That's definitely the timeframe/rumor we've mostly been hearing, but doesn't that seem like a bad time of year to introduce a new product? Christmas is pretty distracting (i.e., people won't be interested in new computer products while they're planning to travel or are seeing their relatives), and to be in time to take advantage of Christmas sales, an early November release seems to be pushing it in terms of timeliness.

Just a thought I had recently.

[NEENAHBOY]

Ever since the release of 10.4.2, DVD Player has decided to disable the "Play disc from last position" option and instead creates a system error, forcing me to play everything from the beginning :rolleyes:

So yeah, I hope it fixes that.

[kettle]

Dude! You've got a stuffed DVD drive!

That's definitely a problem with the drive, I'd get it checked as soon as possible.

I think the guy is referring to a problem with some ATi Hardware and drivers no longer working with Apple enhancements. (8500?) The deal is that users DVD hardware and media work fine with the usual third party DVD software such as VLC media player (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/5758).

[matticus008]

Me neither, Safari usually quits by itself :p (the other times I Force Quit :eek: )
I've been having the same troubles with both Firefox and Safari! Ever since the 10.4.2 update, both browsers just randomly quit themselves, on random pages including Google search results. The latest versions of Firefox haven't fixed it, and actually 1.0.6 made my Windows computer decide that the entire internet was invisible (it would load, but not render, pages).

I think web browsers have to fight an uphill battle against internet bloat. Between plugins for everything under the sun except drying your hair and ten million different web technologies and weird Flash and Javascript implementations, keeping up with everything is much too hard for small browser teams.

I hope they create some sort of protected memory space for each tab in the future, because when one website makes Safari bite it, none of the other tabs work, either, and with a non-responsive application, you can't even bookmark them.

And Q2DE would be really, really nice to have...at last! And maybe a fix for iTunes local playback without visualizations turning my PowerBook fan on all the time. It's probably related to the beachballing other people have mentioned.

[iDM]

I have got a couple question about these updates(meaning the 10.X.X <-- ones) do we ever see the introduction of new things i know this is extremely vague. I am not referring to like spotlight or dashboard but like what do you think the chances are we'll see things like the widget manager added to this?

I got to admit i am lacking in the knowledge of what goes into these updates but it seems like some of the stuff you all are mentioning that needs to be fixed would be simply changes in code that would fix certain bugs and what not, if this is the case what on earth could send this behemoth of an update over 100megs?

Finally I'm not scrapping the bottom of the barrel for free space on my HD but with an update of this size if it is replacing faulty components and software does it optimize by removing items it installs itself over, or is all of this +100med update going to be things installed on top what we saw with the Tiger .2 and .1?? Thanks in advance guys you are all such big help!

Edit: One suggestion I would like to throw out there is Apple please please please stop making dashboard such a damn memory hog when not in use, if it takes a milliecond longer to load when i press F12 then so be it, but i don't want 50 to 60 mbs of memory going to my weather and cnn.com widgets when i'm not even using them. For the poster that wants proof or a link PM and I'll give you my address so i can show you how these processes are slaving my ram even when i'm not using it!!!

[treblah]

ah, yes....we should see 10.5 come out around Dec 2006-a good six months to a year before the problem-plagued, still-not-finished Vista/Longhorn comes out.
And by then it will be no contest. Or, they may rush it out to meet 10.5, and have the whole thing crash and burn right right before their eyes...
:D
10.4.3 is 100-110 mb? a Combo would then be around 150 mb...

Don't let the MS fanboys who hang out here read that. :)
To be fair, MS has said, come hell or highwater, they are going to release Vista by the 2006 Holiday Season.

I've read that the combo is ~100MB, if your system is up to date 10.4.3 will be much smaller in SU.

[kugino]

i'm hoping for a lot of changes that fix the minor irritating things that go on...but the one fix i hope they make is fast user switching. it worked flawlessly in panther...but in tiger it pauses for a few seconds before switching to the new account. very annoying.

[MacNemesis]

"Few details of the specific improvements are available."

Yet we are being told of 550 fixes? Someone is lying.

What the post meant to say is that the details do not elaborate on the problems. They do list many many (haven't actually counted myself), specific fixes. "Fixed X problem with Y application, etc". But it's just a sentence, not a full detailed explanation of the problem. And sometimes it's just "Improvements to X" with nothing further. 550? Wouldn't be surprised, it's a long list. You're not being lied to. You just don't get a novel outlining the fixes.

[SiliconAddict]

Considering how many builds this update has gone through over the last couple months this thing better bring some massive stability and tweaking which from the looks of AI's article is the case.

Mark my words...


Mac OS X 10.5 Imminent

That is all.

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/images/smiles/twak.gif
;)

[silvergunuk]

I think the guy is referring to a problem with some ATi Hardware and drivers no longer working with Apple enhancements. (8500?) The deal is that users DVD hardware and media work fine with the usual third party DVD software such as VLC media player (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/5758).

Yes I have a Radeon 8500 Graphics card in my mac and since updating to tiger, my dvds don't play well. It reads rom and cds fine its just that the video playback is all distorted

[slooksterPSV]

Hurry up Apple I gotta make and blast an image down in the Lab. Have to put back the Garageband loops cause the previous administrator didn't like them, so he removed them. Also, I've updated everything else on one so I just need that huge update to reclone everything.

[iBug2]

Don't they release them on Tuesdays? If not today then another week? I don't want to wait. I want to make a clean install for ages now and waiting for 10.4.3 :)

[RHMMMM]

Wouldn't it be awesome if FrontRow was included with 10.4.3?

Here's hoping it happens. If not, I'll just get the hacked version eventually.

[slooksterPSV]

Don't they release them on Tuesdays? If not today then another week? I don't want to wait. I want to make a clean install for ages now and waiting for 10.4.3 :)
Wow. Plus you have 550 new bug fixes. Way to go Apple!
Microsoft fixes one with a 5MB Patch. Apple fixes 550 for only 100MB

[DaftUnion]

I'm always happy with these updates, but I never really had any issues with 10.4.2.

[zflauaus]

100MB!! Well, it's a good thing my DSL order is going through. LOL. I'm just a little mad at Apple. Five days after I spent 2+ hours downloading iTunes 5 over my dial-up connection, they release 6!!!!:mad: Oh well. I still love them!:D

[mongoos150]

100MB!! Well, it's a good thing my DSL order is going through. LOL. I'm just a little mad at Apple. Five days after I spent 2+ hours downloading iTunes 5 over my dial-up connection, they release 6!!!!:mad: Oh well. I still love them!:D
Ah, the days of dialup...I download a 100mb file in 25 seconds.:)

[Renegate]

I saw on another forum that they think Frontrow Framework will be included with 10.4.3. I wondered in another thread what the all over the board bluetooth on all models meant. It has been reported that people get Frontrow to work with all sort of remote devices including WIFI and mobile phones. Maybe thats it - only negative might be that they want to get some sales from IMAC's so they might not want to add this for free except some sales of remotes?

[dogbone]

100MB!! Well, it's a good thing my DSL order is going through. LOL. I'm just a little mad at Apple. Five days after I spent 2+ hours downloading iTunes 5 over my dial-up connection, they release 6!!!!:mad: Oh well. I still love them!:D

Well I wouldn't bother with 10.4.3 then because 10.4.4 will be out before you finished downloading.

[iBug2]

Well I wouldn't bother with 10.4.3 then because 10.4.4 will be out before you finished downloading.


Nah, apple slowed down with their updates in Tiger. In Panther and Jaguar you would be right. I remember 2 updates within the same month but now we get an update each 3 months.

[Vinnie_vw]

I've been waiting to upgrade to 1 gig of ram on my iBook until Tiger get's updated. It's kind of laggy right now. I hope that will be fixed with the update.

[cyberone]

longing for updates to fix this and that ... why are mac users laughing about pcs? I'm a happy pc-camper and was never longing for an update, even though SP1 & 2 did some good ...

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I've been waiting to upgrade to 1 gig of ram on my iBook until Tiger get's updated. It's kind of laggy right now. I hope that will be fixed with the update.See if you cannot make it a bit more responsive... :)

[Montserrat]

longing for updates to fix this and that ... why are mac users laughing about pcs? I'm a happy pc-camper and was never longing for an update, even though SP1 & 2 did some good ...

I think there are quite a few (a quiet majority) - myself included - who have no problems with the current Mac OS release, though Apple do throw some cool things in with updates - including performance improvements. I'm not sure many Windows users can say that about updates, which in my experience have made PCs run slower rather than faster.

However, SP2 does appear to be good enough for average computer users...

[MacSA]

longing for updates to fix this and that ... why are mac users laughing about pcs? I'm a happy pc-camper and was never longing for an update, even though SP1 & 2 did some good ...

This is something i've found funny too... reading many of the threads asking for advice about switching in these forums would suggest OSX was perfect and problem free, it's only when we have these updates do we see the issues people have with it. Take a look at the OS X 10.5 Leopard thread on page two, any potential switcher reading that would NEVER buy a Mac lol

[AidenShaw]

Hopefully, this update is released at some point this week since I will be on travel next week and will not have internet access. I guess it doesn't really matter though since I haven't had a single issue with my PowerBook with 10.4.2.
Wouldn't it be a lot safer to upgrade after your trip, especially since you're not seeing any problems?

If you find out that the update has hosed your PB, and you're away from the network, wouldn't you be like a Boston fish? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrod)

I need my laptop when I travel, therefore my rule is to never make any updates within a week before heading to the airport....

Just realized that Tiger is out for half a year now and Veritas has not managed yet to make their Net-Backup client compatible with it (it took at least half year with 10.3 and 10.2 as well but that is no excuse).

It probably does not help that Veritas is owned by that very Mac-supportive company Symantec.
The Release Notes for Veritas Netbackup 6.0 list both OS X 10.3 and 10.4 as supported...


http://veritas.resultspage.com/search?p=R&srid=S13&lbc=veritas&w=netbackup%206%2e0%20release%20notes&url=http%3a%2f%2fftp%2esupport%2everitas%2ecom%2fpub%2fsupport%2fproducts%2fNetBackup%5fEnterprise%5 fServer%2f279259%2epdf&rk=4&uid=311178501&sid=2&ts=vxml&rsc=po:yrforOdH24sFX&cnt=200&ed=NBUESVR&method=and&show%5fnews=0&show%5fseer=1&show%5fpdf=1&include%5ftechfiles=1&ddProduct=NBUESVR&viv=1

[7on]

I have got a couple question about these updates(meaning the 10.X.X <-- ones) do we ever see the introduction of new things i know this is extremely vague. I am not referring to like spotlight or dashboard but like what do you think the chances are we'll see things like the widget manager added to this?

I got to admit i am lacking in the knowledge of what goes into these updates but it seems like some of the stuff you all are mentioning that needs to be fixed would be simply changes in code that would fix certain bugs and what not, if this is the case what on earth could send this behemoth of an update over 100megs?

Finally I'm not scrapping the bottom of the barrel for free space on my HD but with an update of this size if it is replacing faulty components and software does it optimize by removing items it installs itself over, or is all of this +100med update going to be things installed on top what we saw with the Tiger .2 and .1?? Thanks in advance guys you are all such big help!

Edit: One suggestion I would like to throw out there is Apple please please please stop making dashboard such a damn memory hog when not in use, if it takes a milliecond longer to load when i press F12 then so be it, but i don't want 50 to 60 mbs of memory going to my weather and cnn.com widgets when i'm not even using them. For the poster that wants proof or a link PM and I'll give you my address so i can show you how these processes are slaving my ram even when i'm not using it!!!


I believe the RAM is given up once a program needs the RAM. Otherwise, until it's needed Dashboard doesn't give it up.

[mongoos150]

I honestly don't see what the hoopla is about...FrontRow is just a way to have access to your media a bit easier than going through individual players...nothing too revolutionary.

[wdlove]

Wouldn't it be a lot safer to upgrade after your trip, especially since you're not seeing any problems?

If you find out that the update has hosed your PB, and you're away from the network, wouldn't you be like a Boston fish? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrod)

I need my laptop when I travel, therefore my rule is to never make any updates within a week before heading to the airport....

That sounds like very sound advice AidenShaw. No reason to upset the apple cart.

I do really enjoy my Boston Scrod, delicious.

[kugino]

I saw on another forum that they think Frontrow Framework will be included with 10.4.3. I wondered in another thread what the all over the board bluetooth on all models meant. It has been reported that people get Frontrow to work with all sort of remote devices including WIFI and mobile phones. Maybe thats it - only negative might be that they want to get some sales from IMAC's so they might not want to add this for free except some sales of remotes?
i doubt anyone's going to spend $1300+ just for Front Row! yes, the imacs are cool and yes, front row is cool...but certainly not THE reason to buy the new imac.

i certainly hope that front row will be available to all somewhere down the road, maybe even in the next update...but it's not the most important thing apple should be doing with the update.

[nbame786]

Let's just hope they fix iTunes and add "show multiple songs" so you can filter your iPod.

Oh, and also fix Safari so when I accidentally hit command-q (while using tabs) I get a prompt asking me if I want to close all tabs.

And Santa, I want a sparklin' wizard to show up when I use pages...
turn it off in preferences... u can pick it lol ahhh no one reads anymore!!

[Bradley W]

Apple... Please Do Not Release This Update: It Is Not Ready Yet!!!

[bloogersnigen]

Oh, and also fix Safari so when I accidentally hit command-q (while using tabs) I get a prompt asking me if I want to close all tabs.


I use the Shareware "Taboo" for that

[Billicus]

Apple... Please Do Not Release This Update: It Is Not Ready Yet!!!

Care to share why you think / know this? :confused:

[slooksterPSV]

i doubt anyone's going to spend $1300+ just for Front Row! yes, the imacs are cool and yes, front row is cool...but certainly not THE reason to buy the new imac.

i certainly hope that front row will be available to all somewhere down the road, maybe even in the next update...but it's not the most important thing apple should be doing with the update.
Hey I think they will put Front Row in with 10.4.3. I just have a feeling they will. I would love to sit 5 more inches away from my iBook and have a bluetooth remote so I can listen to music and watch dvd's.... hey....... I know I can control iTunes with PHP over the internet. I wonder about DVD Player?... Gotta try this bb in a few.

I got it working! I can control this from the internet now =D

[BWhaler]

If Tiger is finally commercial quality, I will be happy for no other reason than I can go back to posting "Happy Apple Thoughts" on the boards and in my consulting business.

It has been pure dark clouds since the release of Tiger. I just hope Apple learned their lesson, and are going to make Leopard amazing.

Hey I think they will put Front Row in with 10.4.3. I just have a feeling they will.

Nope.

Sometime in the future? Probably. Maybe a key feature of Leopard.

In 10.4.3, not a chance, sorry.

Apple... Please Do Not Release This Update: It Is Not Ready Yet!!!


mmmm....do I smell a troll?

[840quadra]

Good to see that apple is still working on making the current operating system better. It is nice that they can spend time working on software improvements as opposed to just security patches.

I am hoping that this patch helps fix my current string of automator issues that I have been working with.

http://forums.macrumors.com/image.php?u=47064&type=profile&dateline=1127904880

[CubaTBird]

i still feel that dashboard needs some improvements.. specifically along the lines of downloading widgets from apples website and having them integrate within dashboard.. many a time i have downloaded a widget and safari will abruptly close and give me a bad access crash report.. while not utterly annoying, still disconcerting nonetheless. :o

[illegalprelude]

ever sense ive gotten Tiger, (I bought it I think about a month ago?) ive noticed that my G5 has not been the most stable machine. I think Panther was a hell of alot more stable then Tiger is being.

[iMeowbot]

ever sense ive gotten Tiger, (I bought it I think about a month ago?) ive noticed that my G5 has not been the most stable machine. I think Panther was a hell of alot more stable then Tiger is being.
Yep. My favorite remark in one of these 10.4.3 threads so far was when someone wrote (paraphrased) "I haven't had any problems at all with Tiger, but it's been more stable since 10.4.2." That's some seriously strong denial, when instability isn't a problem :D

[slooksterPSV]

I have had 1 problem with my Mac and that was my Firewire port wasn't working - I had to restart twice to get it to work. but other than that, there haven't been any other problems whatsoever.

[jkcerruti]

Any news on the release date? I am DYING to get it... iChat is so unstable for me, my iSight is worthless now... I am hoping 10.4.3 offers some fixes...

[NYJetsFan]

I realy hope that there is some fix for the "no response for 10 seconds" problem in iChat.

"D"

[alexeismertin]

Late next week then

[wdlove]

This imminent release has a life of it's own, now at 5 days. Similar to breaking news on the cable networks lasting for hours. :D

[Marky_Mark]

So where's this update then, boys and girls? I ain't seen nuthin' yet...

Anybody got any more up to date info on the release date?

[Peace]

Maybe they're waiting for 10.4.3 Server to catch up ?

[iPhil]

macenstein says X.4.3 should be out by monday at the latest.. :eek: :eek:

but i'm still thinking the update will happen when ever its ready :D ..

but i'll be surprised if the update shows up this weekend..


iphil

[wdlove]

macenstein says X.4.3 should be out by monday at the latest.. :eek: :eek:

but i'm still thinking the update will happen when ever its ready :D ..

but i'll be surprised if the update shows up this weekend..


iphil

I agree, 10.4.3 will be released when it's ready. We will just be surprised one day.

[slooksterPSV]

I'll cry if they release it Monday. I just made an image and executed it on one puter. Now I'm going to have to create another image and do the rest of them.

[BWhaler]

So where's this update then, boys and girls? I ain't seen nuthin' yet...

Anybody got any more up to date info on the release date?

Don't rush, em. This is what got us in this mess to begin with.

I am now 1000x's more anxious about this release than I was a few days ago.

I just bought a new 17" PowerBook that has the LookupD problems and screen flicker issues due to OS problems.

I hope after dropping 2,700 bucks Apple fixes these problems in 10.4.3. Otherwise, this PowerBook is going back.

This is not a proud moment for Apple. Just ask the people with 1.8 G5 Single CPU Macs. Tiger crashes--yes, crashes them--about every two hours.

So I say, Apple take your time. The damage to your reputation has been done. Don't make it worse by not fixing ALL of the serious problems in this release.

[rowanhall]

my iSight is worthless now...

my isight is worthless untill there is a client compatable with msn video chat. everybody i know has msn, nobody has aol or a mac! :(

maybe instead of waiting for msn video over isight, i should just convert the rest to apple! :)

just to mention, i am not rubbishing the isight, its a brilliant piece of kit, clearly the best quality webcam i've seen! :)

[7on]

my isight is worthless untill there is a client compatable with msn video chat. everybody i know has msn, nobody has aol or a mac! :(

maybe instead of waiting for msn video over isight, i should just convert the rest to apple! :)

just to mention, i am not rubbishing the isight, its a brilliant piece of kit, clearly the best quality webcam i've seen! :)

I say convert them to AIM. MSN is rubbish.

I've also had basically no Tiger problems. Other than the Mail hiding at login issue. And once my PB wouldn't wake from sleep. But that's about it.

[generik]

This is not a proud moment for Apple. Just ask the people with 1.8 G5 Single CPU Macs. Tiger crashes--yes, crashes them--about every two hours.


This is something that makes EVERY windows user proud.. yes.. PROUD of their spyware laden virii infested (or so the MR member says) Windows PCs :D

[daveL]

my isight is worthless untill there is a client compatable with msn video chat. everybody i know has msn, nobody has aol or a mac! :(

maybe instead of waiting for msn video over isight, i should just convert the rest to apple! :)

just to mention, i am not rubbishing the isight, its a brilliant piece of kit, clearly the best quality webcam i've seen! :)
I see from your sig you are running Tiger, so use Jabber then. Find a MSN<->Jabber gateway and your set. BTW, Google's IM is based on Jabber. My wife and I have been using jabber.org to do video iChat between my home in the US and my current work location in Tokyo. It works great. Jabber.org has a list of Jabber gateways to other services like MSN.

[Plymouthbreezer]

Mark my words...


Mac OS X 10.5 Imminent

That is all.....Riiiiiiiiight.

[kugino]

so, monday or tuesday? any bets?

[xjebbx]

i'm just sick of checking my for this update. i think i have checked every 2 hours since last monday.

[abc123]

i'm just sick of checking my for this update. i think i have checked every 2 hours since last monday.
:eek: why are you so desperate to get it?

[Punani]

so, monday or tuesday? any bets?Aloha,

I'd wager Monday, if only because there are reports that 10.4.3 is out for the Intel builds.

[Heb1228]

i'm just sick of checking my for this update. i think i have checked every 2 hours since last monday.
I'm the same way. I'm just having problems with Safari crashing and then my whole system will crash once every 12-15 days or so. That so annoying when you're trying to break your record uptime! I'm at 5 days, 12 hours right now. Record since Tiger came out is 25 days.

[kugino]

i'm just sick of checking my for this update. i think i have checked every 2 hours since last monday.
me, too. i've been doing "!!" in terminal for the past week!

[mum4d]

I hope for an "Out of Office " reply in Mail.app that ties up with iCal. Setting up a rule to reply is not good enough. PC's have had this for years. There was a fix in squirrel mail (if running an OSX Server, which I am). but that was broken in 10.4. If 10.4.3 was to fix this I would be a happy bunny! and my office could run more professionally!

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I hope for an "Out of Office " reply in Mail.app that ties up with iCal. Since those kinds of auto-replies are a big no-no, from a security standpoint, I really hope this isn't implemented in Mail. To let someone know you're not at the office is a piece of information easily exploited by a social engineer...

[MikeGA]

Just hurry up and release it please! I've been having quite a few kernel panics when my PowerBook recently :(

[Jordom115]

I have not had a lot of problems with tiger, but i have had a few. My powerbook likes to sometimes do this crazy thing where it wakes up but the monitor does not come on and i have to restart. I hope that gets fixed, does anyone else have that problem? Also, when the screen saver comes on there is a noticable bar of distortion that moves from bottom to top of the screen, wtf? I am so tired of checking for this update, i think im going to just wait a whole week to check again.

[iPhil]

We will know if apple releases the X.4.3 today in 11 hours :rolleyes:

If apple doesn't release it today, then that tells me that X.4.3 update isn't ready 'GM' status.. I have not had a problem with X.4.2.. I think Current version of Tiger is More Stable than 'XP' @ any version.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


iphil

[wrldwzrd89]

We will know if apple releases the X.4.3 today in 11 hours :rolleyes:

If apple doesn't release it today, then that tells me that X.4.3 update isn't ready 'GM' status.. I have not had a problem with X.4.2.. I think Current version of Tiger is More Stable than 'XP' @ any version.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


iphil
iphil, I'm in exactly the same situation as you. I have not had any major Tiger-related issues (with the exception of beachballs that go away on their own). I agree with all of your points...although I haven't experienced many XP issues either.

[iPhil]

iphil, I'm in exactly the same situation as you. I have not had any major Tiger-related issues (with the exception of beachballs that go away on their own). I agree with all of your points...although I haven't experienced many XP issues either.

well before i switched to Mac platform, XP = pita on use/up-keep
:rolleyes:

Now im on Mac platform, i just run maintance programs - MacJanitor/repair permissions.. to just keep my Mac in top shape.

And when 'XP' ask for up-dates it'll do 4 restarts even it's 1 up-date..
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
^^
the last statement is IMHO ..

And in xp I'll usually Re-boot the system @least 2 times per day to clear the ram/cache..

iphil

[efoto]

We will know if apple releases the X.4.3 today in 11 hours :rolleyes:

If apple doesn't release it today, then that tells me that X.4.3 update isn't ready 'GM' status.. I have not had a problem with X.4.2.. I think Current version of Tiger is More Stable than 'XP' @ any version.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


iphil

Current version of Tiger? More like current version of 'OS anything' :p

I haven't had any problems with .4.2 however I guess I wouldn't necessarily know if they were system or app related sometimes, so I might have had some. Either way, things are running fine now but updates are welcome if they fix issues, even if I haven't come across them yet.

[iPhil]

Current version of Tiger? More like current version of 'OS anything' :p

I haven't had any problems with .4.2 however I guess I wouldn't necessarily know if they were system or app related sometimes, so I might have had some. Either way, things are running fine now but updates are welcome if they fix issues, even if I haven't come across them yet.

efoto: what i meant by 'Current version' is X.4.2


iphil

[wdlove]

Current version of Tiger? More like current version of 'OS anything' :p

I haven't had any problems with .4.2 however I guess I wouldn't necessarily know if they were system or app related sometimes, so I might have had some. Either way, things are running fine now but updates are welcome if they fix issues, even if I haven't come across them yet.

Yes, my wife is also very happy with 10.4.2. It fixed crashing problems that she had with Panther. At least each passing day we are getting closer to 10.4.3.

[RobHague]

Hopefully that glitch with the 1.8Ghz PMs will be fixed.

I think Apple should give people with this problem the option to maybe pay a little extra and trade-in the faulty 1.8 for a new or refurb 2.0 if not. Seems to be a pretty major issue to me :confused: at least my computer freezing when it felt like it wouldnt make me that happy - not at these prices.

[efoto]

efoto: what i meant by 'Current version' is X.4.2


iphil

and what I meant by 'OS anything' was that anything OS_ is better than any revision of XP ;)
I understood what you meant, I just used it differently than you intentioned perhaps....

[iPhil]

and what I meant by 'OS anything' was that anything OS_ is better than any revision of XP ;)
I understood what you meant, I just used it differently than you intentioned perhaps....

Srry efoto,

my mind as not changed to the 'Mac Thinking'.. It's the M$ft washing still has a effect on my thinking after 20 years of windows OS.. And only 18 days of Mac OS.


iphil

[efoto]

Srry efoto,

my mind as not changed to the 'Mac Thinking'.. It's the M$ft washing still has a effect on my thinking after 20 years of windows OS.. And only 18 days of Mac OS.


iphil

No need for an apology, no harm done. I am coming up to my one-year Mac anniversary, I'm taking my PB out to dinner and then who knows :rolleyes: ;)

I really do love OSX, but if Windows machines got their acts together and offered a better product, I would buy it. It's nice having OSX as a relief, but I admit to still using XP daily on my desktop/server at home. I can't wait until I can actually afford a PowerMac as I'll then have no arguable reason to continue using XP :)

[jtj.mac]

It's out according to my software update.

[denial]

Downloading now. Wish me luck:D

[denial]

a 97mb download for me. First time it slowed...then locked up. Next time it downloaded quickly. Will restart the computer now (gulp).

[Peace]

What's the build number?

[kugino]

it's taking awhile to find it via terminal...

there it is...downloading now...99,310kb.

[efoto]

Taking me all of 2 minutes to download, I love fast internet :)

Not sure if this is related or not, but Safari seems to be hogging a ton of resources lately. Anyone else having this or know if this update address anything like that?

[efoto]

What's the build number?

Mac OS X 10.4.3 (8F46) is what I got. Seems to work fine :)