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pnz999
Dec 15, 2002, 10:09 AM
Has anyone use GIMP (macgimp.org) or FILM GIMP http://filmgimp.sourceforge.net) both are open source photo editing software..so its basically FREE Photoshop.

Well, I dont really understand how to install it... "Free at http://filmgimp.sourceforge.net, available as source tarball (gz), download version 0.10 or higher (about 3mb). Requires Fink (free, see http://fink.sourceforge.net/)." That, reading from Fink website, Fink also install software like xfree86 and OroborusOSX into your computer?

so whats xfree86, x windows, and oroborus OS x?

meta-ghost
Dec 15, 2002, 10:59 AM
Gimp is a quick reminder of why we pay money for software. I used it before Photoshop 7 came out. Technically, it probably did everything I needed it to do but it lacked in that thing referred to as use interface. Most who are savvy can get around this but not the general population. Photoshop is smooth in comparison.

I do remember having problems installing until I found out about some entirely counterintuitive thing I had to do for installation. Forgot what it was thought, sorry.

FattyMembrane
Dec 15, 2002, 12:11 PM
i had the gimp for a while, but i'll be damned if i could use the thing. what's great about well designed mac software is that you can fire it up and use it right there, no readme necessary. i went ahead and shelled out the $45 for the academic version of Photoshop Elements and it's great (and accepts ps plugins).

when i went to install gimp, i found it rather daunting, but then i went over to www.macgimp.org which has a complete xwindows/gimp installer that you just double click. it gives you instructions on what to do from there. good luck

robbieduncan
Dec 15, 2002, 12:26 PM
xfree86 is an implementation of the X Windows System. This is an old (that's not to say it's not also good) window system for Unix (originally). It has many interesting features (like network transparany, pluggable window managers and more). OrobousX is a window manager for xfree86 (an of course it should probably work with other XWindows too) that looks mostly like Aqua on OSX.

So what does all this mean. Well for a start using GIMP, or any other XWindows software is not really like using other Mac OSX software. Controls will work differently and windows do not behave the same. The GIMP is a simple recompile of the Linux program for OSX. It is not trully native. It is not using Quartz or any other Mac goodness.

Fink is a Debian like unstaller for Unix apps. It is really good if you like these things (I use it). What this means is that you do not get the normal Mac install (and uninstall) interface. Normal Fink installs download the source of the app you are installing (and any required libraries) and compile them locally. You cannot simply drag an app to your Applications folder. Removing apps is even worse.

But if you've got the disk space then give it a whirl. You'll get to like the Terminal this way :)

BenderBot1138
Dec 15, 2002, 01:03 PM
I'm not sure I like the program for no other reason that its name.

I can't see a program that used a racial slur as a name being successful either.

:cool:

vniow
Dec 15, 2002, 01:27 PM
I use the GIMP on my PC and it's pretty good. Especially since it's free.http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/veronica/winky.gif

Haven't put it on my iBook yet so I couldn't tell you about the Mac side of it.

It's pretty utilitarian, but if you can figure it out it's a good image editing tool.

robbieduncan
Dec 15, 2002, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by BenderBot1138
I'm not sure I like the program for no other reason that its name.

I can't see a program that used a racial slur as a name being successful either.

:cool:

It's the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GNU = GNU's Not Unix)