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WilliamG
Apr 25, 2013, 01:09 AM
So I admit off the bat, I'm an Apple fan. Not a fanboy, but a fan indeed.

In terms of phones, I've owned the iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and currently I use an iPhone 5. I upgrade immediately, like a good Apple soldier should.

My neighbor yesterday asked me which phone he should buy. He has been using an iPhone 4 up till this point, and he told me he wants a larger screen, - larger than even the iPhone 5.

Given that the Galaxy S4 is not available yet, I recommended the HTC One, since by all accounts it's the best Android device actually out there in the wild.

He complied, and brought home the One today. I got to play with it tonight, and here are my thoughts...

1.) This is the very first Android device that truly rivals Apple in terms of design. While the back is just a tad busy for an Apple device, the build quality is absolutely fantastic. This is without doubt, the best-designed Android phone on the market.

2.) The screen is absolutely stunning. Yes, it's even more stunning than the iPhone 5 display. I opened up the New York Times full site, and text was even MORE readable on this display, even aside from the size difference between the two. I know people talk about Retina this and Retina that. Fact is, for me at least, I still want a sharper display, and when you put the HTC One next to the iPhone 5, what I've wanted in terms of PPI is right there, easily visible. It's truly stunning, and being NOT an AMOLED screen, it comes without all the deficiencies inherent in that tech (blue whites, lack of white brightness, over-saturated colors etc). The HTC One has 469 ppi, vs 326 ppi on the iPhone 4/4S/5. The difference, to me, is as obvious as a smack in the face. I love it. As far as I'm concerned, the HTC One has the true Retina display.

3.) The speakers raise the bar for what a phone can do. No more channeling sound to the front by cupping your hand around the bottom of the phone when watching movies/YouTube etc. The HTC One has the best speakers I've ever heard on a phone. Two speakers, front facing = game changer for the phone multimedia space.

4.) The ui responsiveness has vastly improved on these devices compared to the previous generation. I've had extensive playtime with my other neighbor's Galaxy Nexus, and the HTC One absolutely destroys the Galaxy Nexus in terms of response. Scrolling up and down web-pages is as close to Apple-like as it gets now, with almost imperceptible lag when doing so. Rotating the screen takes just milliseconds now. Everything is just so smooth.

Just a few cons from my time with the One:

5.) Apps-wise, no comparison. The iPhone has the HTC, and any Android device - soundly beaten.

6.) The One's power button is over on the top left vs top right on the iPhone 5. I grab my phone out of my left pocket with my left hand, so the power-button location is easily hit on the top right. iPhone wins that one.

So what's an Apple lover to do?

I'm torn. So, so torn. I absolutely love the HTC One. I really do. I'm also heavily invested in the Apple world, with numerous Macs, Apple accessories etc littered about my house and office.

But... my oh my is the HTC One a game-changer on the Android front. There is absolutely something to be said for the premium feel the One offers that the Galaxy S4 simply will never do (based on my plastic-y experience when toying with the S3).

Anyway, for those with no tether to Apple or Google, I highly, HIGHLY recommend spending some time with the HTC One. It's quite possibly the best phone on the market right now.

For the first time ever since handling many, many Android phones: Apple - the ball's in your court.

(Picture taken with my iPhone 5, of course!)



taedouni
Apr 25, 2013, 01:15 AM
The new htc one is such a beauty. I wish that Apple would release a phone that would blow the competition out of the water like the iPhone 4 did. The iPhone 5 has a nice build quality but it's lacking features compared to other devices. I also feel that they really just played catch up with the iPhone 5. But now they're behind yet again. They need to release a 4.3" phone. I think that it's the best size and it should still be usable with one hand. And for the love of God, please Apple, please improve predictive typing.

Mrbobb
Apr 25, 2013, 01:28 AM
Luv the front, back not so much.

darster
Apr 25, 2013, 02:00 AM
Curious about battery life. I have heard both good and bad.

RAPTORSKI
Apr 25, 2013, 02:22 AM
One beast of a phone, don't think Apple will do much do challenge it in regards to hardware until 2014, when the bigger display iPhone hopefully comes along.

2013 would be a good time for Apple to get it together on the software front though.

Sean76
Apr 25, 2013, 02:22 AM
This is a great thread OP...

I'm what you would call a true blue tech geek that doesn't wave a flag for any one OS or manufacturer...I like what I like, and buy what I like! With that said...

I've owned every iphone to date, as well as just about every High end Android phone that at&t and Verizon has put out...as well as a slew of Blackberrys over the years, but that's a whole other story that would also include some Palm devices...lol

Anyway at the moment I'd have to say the One is basically Beautiful and the one to beat as far as looks go! That goes for everyone, Apple, Samsung, LG, etc! The phone is plain Sexy!

While I do really like it, I don't see it taking the place of either my iphone 5, or my nexus 4. And the reasoning is simple. For the iphone side of it I'm just too heavily invested in Apple products these days and basically love the Apple Eco system. And on the Android front, I don't care very much for Sense 5.0 or the lag that it will bring within 2 months of owning the phone. For me these days an Android phone running stock Vanilla Android is how I roll, no over lays, no bloat, no BS! Harsh but givin the amount of Android phones I've owned I'd have to say stock makes a big deal.

Either way I will whole heartily agree with the OP that the ONE as far as looks go is basically a game changer for Android phones, and I can only hope that HTC makes the next version of the nexus.

albertxp06
Apr 25, 2013, 03:14 AM
Absolutely agree with this. If I didn't get an iPhone 5 in September and I had known this was coming, I would have waited. Sense 5 is definitely a lot lighter than the previous versions, but stock Android is still better.

As for battery, my dad has the One X and that seems to last him a day and a half with some moderate usage, so I expect something similar.

jimbo1mcm
Apr 25, 2013, 03:33 AM
Agree with OP. I have an Ip5 and am invested in the Apple Eco System. I had the HTC One for 18 hours but just could not handle going back to Android. The HTC Hardware is impressive. If it could run IOS I would crawl over broken glass to have it. The question I have is this: How could Apple be so complacent that they let a competitor develop a phone like this, and not respond?

CEmajr
Apr 25, 2013, 05:20 AM
I agree the HTC One has changed the game. This is probably the first time since owning iPhones that I feel that I don't have the best designed device on the market. It's like what you expect the iPhone should be. Absolutely amazing device.

Apple as well as the other Android OEMs should be in the lab trying to figure out how to outdo this design.

pirg
Apr 25, 2013, 06:11 AM
Agree with OP. I have an Ip5 and am invested in the Apple Eco System. I had the HTC One for 18 hours but just could not handle going back to Android. The HTC Hardware is impressive. If it could run IOS I would crawl over broken glass to have it. The question I have is this: How could Apple be so complacent that they let a competitor develop a phone like this, and not respond?

I'm sure they're not sitting at apple hq going "ah well guys, we tried..time to pack it up!"

Richal
Apr 25, 2013, 06:15 AM
But the thing I really want to know is why HTC One is designed like iphone in terms of appearance?

fredaroony
Apr 25, 2013, 06:21 AM
I would argue that the Xperia Z is a better design and also rivals the iPhone 5. I don't see how the HTC One bests it.

I had a good look at the HTC One tonight and while I bought my Xperia Z before seeing a HTC One I'm very happy with my decision.

IFRIT
Apr 25, 2013, 06:28 AM
I would argue that the Xperia Z is a better design and also rivals the iPhone 5. I don't see how the HTC One bests it.

I had a good look at the HTC One tonight and while I bought my Xperia Z before seeing a HTC One I'm very happy with my decision.

The xperia Z feels awful in the hand though it's too square.

fredaroony
Apr 25, 2013, 06:43 AM
The xperia Z feels awful in the hand though it's too square.

Not in my opinion. I also prefer the bigger screen over the HTC One.

superstarmc
Apr 25, 2013, 06:49 AM
Can you change the windows looking theme?

adnbek
Apr 25, 2013, 06:49 AM
I would argue that the Xperia Z is a better design and also rivals the iPhone 5. I don't see how the HTC One bests it.

I had a good look at the HTC One tonight and while I bought my Xperia Z before seeing a HTC One I'm very happy with my decision.

Blegh. I saw an Xperia Z in person (a friend got it) and the screen was so washed out. Felt like a cheap TN display like they use on cheap notebooks. Viewing angles were pretty bad and contrast was subpar.

The screen on the HTC One on the other hand... Simply gorgeous.

fredaroony
Apr 25, 2013, 06:52 AM
Blegh. I saw an Xperia Z in person (a friend got it) and the screen was so washed out. Felt like a cheap TN display like they use on cheap notebooks. Viewing angles were pretty bad and contrast was subpar.

The screen on the HTC One on the other hand... Simply gorgeous.

lol ok...you are way off base on most of your comments with the exception of the viewing angles, they aren't great but I tend to look at my phone straight on like a normal human being.

You are probably mistaking it for being washed out because of the stupid grey theme Sony used.

MacRumorUser
Apr 25, 2013, 06:53 AM
6.) The One's power button is over on the top left vs top right on the iPhone 5. I grab my phone out of my left pocket with my left hand, so the power-button location is easily hit on the top right. iPhone wins that one.

I'm left handed and take my phone out of my left pocket with my left hand all the time. There hasn't been any noticeable differences between it and my iPhone 5 ?

Are you left or right handed ?

Is the button placement that strange for right handed people or something. I prefer the volume rocker on the right (htc one) compared to the left of the iphone too.

ChrisTX
Apr 25, 2013, 07:01 AM
And for the love of God, please Apple, please improve predictive typing.
Honestly, my biggest gripe with Android is the typing. I've been using my GS3 since last year so I'm completely used to it. But to this day I still make way more typing mistakes on Android. It's almost embarrassing really. To be fair, the native Android keyboard is best, but it seems like almost no Android phones other than Nexus devices provide that as an option.

fredaroony
Apr 25, 2013, 07:03 AM
Honestly, my biggest gripe with Android is the typing. I've been using my GS3 since last year so I'm completely used to it. But to this day I still make way more typing mistakes on Android. It's almost embarrassing really. To be fair, the native Android keyboard is best, but it seems like almost no Android phones other than Nexus devices provide that as an option.

Have you tried another keyboard such as Swype?

jamezr
Apr 25, 2013, 07:50 AM
So I admit off the bat, I'm an Apple fan. Not a fanboy, but a fan indeed.

In terms of phones, I've owned the iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and currently I use an iPhone 5. I upgrade immediately, like a good Apple soldier should.

My neighbor yesterday asked me which phone he should buy. He has been using an iPhone 4 up till this point, and he told me he wants a larger screen, - larger than even the iPhone 5.

Given that the Galaxy S4 is not available yet, I recommended the HTC One, since by all accounts it's the best Android device actually out there in the wild.

He complied, and brought home the One today. I got to play with it tonight, and here are my thoughts...

1.) This is the very first Android device that truly rivals Apple in terms of design. While the back is just a tad busy for an Apple device, the build quality is absolutely fantastic. This is without doubt, the best-designed Android phone on the market.

2.) The screen is absolutely stunning. Yes, it's even more stunning than the iPhone 5 display. I opened up the New York Times full site, and text was even MORE readable on this display, even aside from the size difference between the two. I know people talk about Retina this and Retina that. Fact is, for me at least, I still want a sharper display, and when you put the HTC One next to the iPhone 5, what I've wanted in terms of PPI is right there, easily visible. It's truly stunning, and being NOT an AMOLED screen, it comes without all the deficiencies inherent in that tech (blue whites, lack of white brightness, over-saturated colors etc). The HTC One has 469 ppi, vs 326 ppi on the iPhone 4/4S/5. The difference, to me, is as obvious as a smack in the face. I love it. As far as I'm concerned, the HTC One has the true Retina display.

3.) The speakers raise the bar for what a phone can do. No more channeling sound to the front by cupping your hand around the bottom of the phone when watching movies/YouTube etc. The HTC One has the best speakers I've ever heard on a phone. Two speakers, front facing = game changer for the phone multimedia space.

4.) The ui responsiveness has vastly improved on these devices compared to the previous generation. I've had extensive playtime with my other neighbor's Galaxy Nexus, and the HTC One absolutely destroys the Galaxy Nexus in terms of response. Scrolling up and down web-pages is as close to Apple-like as it gets now, with almost imperceptible lag when doing so. Rotating the screen takes just milliseconds now. Everything is just so smooth.

Just a few cons from my time with the One:

5.) Apps-wise, no comparison. The iPhone has the HTC, and any Android device - soundly beaten.

6.) The One's power button is over on the top left vs top right on the iPhone 5. I grab my phone out of my left pocket with my left hand, so the power-button location is easily hit on the top right. iPhone wins that one.

So what's an Apple lover to do?

I'm torn. So, so torn. I absolutely love the HTC One. I really do. I'm also heavily invested in the Apple world, with numerous Macs, Apple accessories etc littered about my house and office.

But... my oh my is the HTC One a game-changer on the Android front. There is absolutely something to be said for the premium feel the One offers that the Galaxy S4 simply will never do (based on my plastic-y experience when toying with the S3).

Anyway, for those with no tether to Apple or Google, I highly, HIGHLY recommend spending some time with the HTC One. It's quite possibly the best phone on the market right now.

For the first time ever since handling many, many Android phones: Apple - the ball's in your court.

(Picture taken with my iPhone 5, of course!)
Very nice honest write up! Thanks for taking the time to give us your honest opinion. I was in the same boat as you. I have owner every iPhone released. I have so many apple products in my house past and present....i can't list them. all. But i sold my IP5 on CL and went with the HTC One. So far it has been great and no regrets. But Android needs something like iTunes to tie everything together in one place with one piece of software that will work on all Android phones. It is a huge gap for their platform. But i won't be switching my rMBP or iPads, iMac anytime in foreseeable future!

Prototypical
Apr 25, 2013, 08:19 AM
I tried a buddy's HTC One the other night and I have to echo your sentiments. It is the first Android phone I have handled that made me give pause and consider switching back (started with the OG Droid). It's powerful, smooth to operate, beautiful to look at, solid to hold, big (but not silly, Note 2 big)...

If Verizon would actually carry the phone my 4S might find a home in my nightstand.

JaySoul
Apr 25, 2013, 08:25 AM
Honestly, my biggest gripe with Android is the typing. I've been using my GS3 since last year so I'm completely used to it. But to this day I still make way more typing mistakes on Android. It's almost embarrassing really. To be fair, the native Android keyboard is best, but it seems like almost no Android phones other than Nexus devices provide that as an option.

Total opposite for me.

My time with the HTC One made me fall in love with the keyboard - going back to an iPhone 5 afterwards was incredibly frustrating.

osofast240sx
Apr 25, 2013, 08:25 AM
The HTC one will make the iPhone 5s and future iPhones that much better. This is a good thing.

The13thDoctor
Apr 25, 2013, 09:13 AM
lol ok...you are way off base on most of your comments with the exception of the viewing angles, they aren't great but I tend to look at my phone straight on like a normal human being.

You are probably mistaking it for being washed out because of the stupid grey theme Sony used.

Sorry dude...the Z may have a really high DPI display, but the colours are really really washed out...Compared to HTC One's display...man its like day and night.
Unless you live in Japan and happen to own one thats actually calibrated properly.

ucfgrad93
Apr 25, 2013, 10:16 AM
The HTC One looks amazing. I saw one a couple of days ago, and it is seriously tempting.

mjpearce023
Apr 25, 2013, 10:34 AM
I just don't get why HTC went with the 4MP camera. Most of the comparisons Iíve seen have the iPhone 5 and S4 doing better than the One. The only thing the One did better in was the low light pictures. With the 5S coming out in a few months I would think the Oneís camera should be quite a bit better than the 5 but it doesnít look that way. If it had an amazing camera I would probably pick one up. I still might so I can do my own test with the 5 and the One cameras because you never know if these websites are accurate. My upgrade is coming up on May 14th so I might as well wait for WWDC to make a decision. If iOS 7 is impressive I will just stay with Apple for now.

RetepNamenots
Apr 25, 2013, 10:44 AM
I just don't get why HTC went with the 4MP camera. Most of the comparisons Iíve seen have the iPhone 5 and S4 doing better than the One. The only thing the One did better in was the low light pictures. With the 5S coming out in a few months I would think the Oneís camera should be quite a bit better than the 5 but it doesnít look that way. If it had an amazing camera I would probably pick one up. I still might so I can do my own test with the 5 and the One cameras because you never know if these websites are accurate. My upgrade is coming up on May 14th so I might as well wait for WWDC to make a decision. If iOS 7 is impressive I will just stay with Apple for now.

It was a conscious design decision by HTC - bigger sensor receptors means fewer megapixels, but better performance with less light.

WilliamG
Apr 25, 2013, 11:00 AM
It was a conscious design decision by HTC - bigger sensor receptors means fewer megapixels, but better performance with less light.

Right. And I, for one, appreciate that. I probably only email 1-2MP photos from my iPhone 5 as it is. The improvement in low-light photography ability could mean the difference between saving a picture and deleting it, though. I will admit, I didn't spend a huge amount of time with the camera, but from what few pictures I took with the One, I was impressed.

ucfgrad93
Apr 25, 2013, 11:43 AM
Most reviews I've read say that the HTC One camera is great indoors and in low light situations.

adh328
Apr 25, 2013, 11:51 AM
Just purchased my HTC One and I have to admit, it is one hell of a phone. Having had every iPhone since, it was ridiculously hard for me to get the balls to even consider switching. I have numerous Apple products in my house and am writing this review on my rMBP so I have invested a lot in the Apple ecosystem. However, the One still drew me in and I have to admit, I am not disappointed at all. Their app store is robust enough to the point where I don't miss all of the iOS exclusive games. The screen on this phone is absolutely amazing. The 1080p screen is something that needs to be seen to believe how nice it is. It is definitely nicer than the iPhone 5 in my opinion.

I thought that Android OS would be a nightmare as I have heard horror stories in the past, but surprisingly Sense 5 makes Android smooth and very easy to manage. I think this is due to Sense 5 as I still don't like TouchWiz on the Samsung phones. Personal preference I guess.

There are some things I do miss from my iPhone.
1) iMessaging - I know this may be something that is dumb to miss but I do have a lot of group iMessages that I do not get anymore on my phone. This along with the emojis from iOS are things that I miss but will learn to live without. (If anyone can figure out how to integrate the emojis from iOS into Android, please respond to this! I want to keep my SwiftKey keyboard installed. Thanks!)
2) I miss the integration with a lot of devices that are made for iDevices. However, due to the lightning connector on the iPhone 5, most of those devices did not work with my phone anyway. Nothing bluetooth can't solve, but of course, the HTC One has bluetooth that works better than my iPhone 5 did (mainly with Entune in my Toyota).

All in all, I am very happy with this device. I think this is a game changer. I was really worried that Apple would come out with a phone that had a bigger screen to compete with these Android devices, but after hearing Tim Cooks comments about screen size, I don't see that happening in the near future. In that case, when the iPhone with a bigger screen comes out, I may switch back. But for now, I am greatly satisfied with my HTC One and would recommend it over any Samsung phone and any other Android device for that matter.

I still love the iPhone 5 but as of now, the HTC One is the phone to get.

I hope this review was helpful! (Also, first post :))

mjpearce023
Apr 25, 2013, 12:00 PM
It was a conscious design decision by HTC - bigger sensor receptors means fewer megapixels, but better performance with less light.

I'm glad they improved the low light pics. I just have seen some reviews that said the One's camera wasn't as good as the iPhone 5 or Galaxy S4. That's why I would like to get the One and do some side by side comparison pics with 5 to see if that's really true or not. I don't want to take a step backwards on the camera to get a bigger screen but I would need to test the One to decide for sure. I've learned you can't always trust reviews.

bidwalj
Apr 25, 2013, 12:06 PM
Just purchased my HTC One and I have to admit, it is one hell of a phone. Having had every iPhone since, it was ridiculously hard for me to get the balls to even consider switching. I have numerous Apple products in my house and am writing this review on my rMBP so I have invested a lot in the Apple ecosystem. However, the One still drew me in and I have to admit, I am not disappointed at all. Their app store is robust enough to the point where I don't miss all of the iOS exclusive games. The screen on this phone is absolutely amazing. The 1080p screen is something that needs to be seen to believe how nice it is. It is definitely nicer than the iPhone 5 in my opinion.

I thought that Android OS would be a nightmare as I have heard horror stories in the past, but surprisingly Sense 5 makes Android smooth and very easy to manage. I think this is due to Sense 5 as I still don't like TouchWiz on the Samsung phones. Personal preference I guess.

There are some things I do miss from my iPhone.
1) iMessaging - I know this may be something that is dumb to miss but I do have a lot of group iMessages that I do not get anymore on my phone. This along with the emojis from iOS are things that I miss but will learn to live without. (If anyone can figure out how to integrate the emojis from iOS into Android, please respond to this! I want to keep my SwiftKey keyboard installed. Thanks!)
2) I miss the integration with a lot of devices that are made for iDevices. However, due to the lightning connector on the iPhone 5, most of those devices did not work with my phone anyway. Nothing bluetooth can't solve, but of course, the HTC One has bluetooth that works better than my iPhone 5 did (mainly with Entune in my Toyota).

All in all, I am very happy with this device. I think this is a game changer. I was really worried that Apple would come out with a phone that had a bigger screen to compete with these Android devices, but after hearing Tim Cooks comments about screen size, I don't see that happening in the near future. In that case, when the iPhone with a bigger screen comes out, I may switch back. But for now, I am greatly satisfied with my HTC One and would recommend it over any Samsung phone and any other Android device for that matter.

I still love the iPhone 5 but as of now, the HTC One is the phone to get.

I hope this review was helpful! (Also, first post :))


I'll just add this..the stuff you miss is what eventually gets you to switch back. I done this many times myself. When you first switch, everything is nice about the phone. You love the hardware, the screen, the newness. Once the device becomes just a device, you start to miss the stuff you loved / took for granted on iOS / iphone. I eventually just go back to the iphone. For me imessage is big, love the group chat. I also like the layout / features of certain apps better in iOS vs android. It may be small things, but these are the things I mainly use my phone for.

92jlee
Apr 25, 2013, 12:07 PM
I would have got a HTC One instead of an iPhone if it had stock AOSP android.. Simple.

ChrisTX
Apr 25, 2013, 12:13 PM
Have you tried another keyboard such as Swype?

Swype is good, but SwiftKey Flow has been my favorite. I guess with Swype style of typing I don't make as many mistakes. However it's more natural to "hunt-and-peck" so to speak than it is to Swype. I guess just a minor annoyance really, but to say iOS keyboard is lacking, in my opinion just isn't true.

mjpearce023
Apr 25, 2013, 12:37 PM
I'll just add this..the stuff you miss is what eventually gets you to switch back. I done this many times myself. When you first switch, everything is nice about the phone. You love the hardware, the screen, the newness. Once the device becomes just a device, you start to miss the stuff you loved / took for granted on iOS / iphone. I eventually just go back to the iphone. For me imessage is big, love the group chat. I also like the layout / features of certain apps better in iOS vs android. It may be small things, but these are the things I mainly use my phone for.

iMessage is a big one for me too for a different reason. I got my Mom an iPhone a few years ago and put here on my plan. It doesn't cost much ($10 for the line and 20 for data). I have 1000 text for $10 because I mostly use iMessage and I don't have a text plan on her line because thatís all she uses is iMessage. That means I would have to spend $20 extra a month for unlimited if I got an android or just tell my mom not to text me which would probably not go over very well

Bacong
Apr 25, 2013, 12:50 PM
it's a beautiful phone. But god is Sense ugly.

ChazUK
Apr 25, 2013, 01:03 PM
If i were in the market for an Android phone today, I have no doubt I'd go for the HTC One.

The s4 (although just as powerful) doesn't do it for me. This was a great thread to read. Hopefully we're on the cusp of a HTC turnaround. They certainly deserve it this time.

Fernandez21
Apr 25, 2013, 01:14 PM
I'm glad they improved the low light pics. I just have seen some reviews that said the One's camera wasn't as good as the iPhone 5 or Galaxy S4. That's why I would like to get the One and do some side by side comparison pics with 5 to see if that's really true or not. I don't want to take a step backwards on the camera to get a bigger screen but I would need to test the One to decide for sure. I've learned you can't always trust reviews.

I carry both, and in my limited testing, I think the HTC One shoots better video, and better low light, while the iPhone 5 shoots better pictures in good lighting conditions.

unlinked
Apr 25, 2013, 01:19 PM
Honestly, my biggest gripe with Android is the typing. I've been using my GS3 since last year so I'm completely used to it. But to this day I still make way more typing mistakes on Android. It's almost embarrassing really. To be fair, the native Android keyboard is best, but it seems like almost no Android phones other than Nexus devices provide that as an option.

Can you not just install a port of the stock keyboard from the play store? I see a jelly bean keyboard there.

I used to do this to get the stock browser because the Asus version was broken in some way.

Tinmania
Apr 25, 2013, 01:39 PM
I'll just add this..the stuff you miss is what eventually gets you to switch back. I done this many times myself. When you first switch, everything is nice about the phone. You love the hardware, the screen, the newness. Once the device becomes just a device, you start to miss the stuff you loved / took for granted on iOS / iphone. I eventually just go back to the iphone. For me imessage is big, love the group chat. I also like the layout / features of certain apps better in iOS vs android. It may be small things, but these are the things I mainly use my phone for.
Not me. I switched to a Nexus 4 in November, after using nothing but an iPhone since it first came out. I never looked back. Now I have a Note 2.

I don't think I could go back to an iPhone at this point. The small screen size of the iPhone 5 got me to switch. But the freedom to do what I like, choose my own default apps, etc.... is making it far harder to go back just because of iMessage. The only thing my iPhone friends and family see different on their end is that my messages are now green and not blue. Nothing that important in my opinion. My non-iPhone using friends and family don't see anything different at all.

Also, switching got me out of having to rely on iCloud. Google works with everything. Apple does not. I never liked that; I merely put up with it.




Michael

VulchR
Apr 25, 2013, 02:21 PM
@OP: Thank you for the review, but above 300 dpi it becomes very difficult to discern better resolution. The physiology constrains the performance of your visual system. Perhaps the HTC One seems more clear to you for another reason (e.g. the amount of light scatter as it goes through the screen? Is it brighter? Higher color range? less of a gap between pixels? etc.).

WilliamG
Apr 25, 2013, 02:28 PM
@OP: Thank you for the review, but above 300 dpi it becomes very difficult to discern better resolution. The physiology constrains the performance of your visual system. Perhaps the HTC One seems more clear to you for another reason (e.g. the amount of light scatter as it goes through the screen? Is it brighter? Higher color range? less of a gap between pixels? etc.).

I'm not sure what to tell you, except the sharpness difference is obvious when text is small. When I open the desktop version of www.nyt.com on my iPhone 5, I wish the text were a hair sharper. It's still sharp, but not HTC One sharp. Even before using the One I wanted more sharpness.

So, yes, perhaps it's difficult to discern the difference above 300 ppi. Not impossible, though!

WilliamG
Apr 25, 2013, 03:25 PM
I've been dreaming of the One all day. Hah. Crazy! My first real "Smart" phone was an HTC P3600, back when Windows Mobile was all the rage (or we were busy raging about how frustrating it was - tough to say!). In any case it was a darn good phone for its time.

I'd love HTC to bring me back into the fold with the One, but I must admit I'm VERY nervous to break the Apple mantra in my house. There are so many things that work so well. Airplay, for one. iMessage, for another. And I love Apple's customer service if any issues arise.

Very nervous.

But.. oh.. HTC, how do I love thee!

fredaroony
Apr 25, 2013, 03:50 PM
Sorry dude...the Z may have a really high DPI display, but the colours are really really washed out...Compared to HTC One's display...man its like day and night.
Unless you live in Japan and happen to own one thats actually calibrated properly.

Sorry dude...no they aren't..as I said before, it can look like they are washed out because of the grey theme Sony used. The viewing angles are way better on the HTC One but that doesnt mean much to me anyway since I don't tend to look at my phone at an angle.

The Japanese model uses the normal black background and yes it does have the calibration software that Sony decided to leave out on this one for some reason.

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Swype is good, but SwiftKey Flow has been my favorite. I guess with Swype style of typing I don't make as many mistakes. However it's more natural to "hunt-and-peck" so to speak than it is to Swype. I guess just a minor annoyance really, but to say iOS keyboard is lacking, in my opinion just isn't true.

I tried Swiftkey too but always come back to Swype. The biggest point is that with Android at least you have a choice!

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Not me. I switched to a Nexus 4 in November, after using nothing but an iPhone since it first came out. I never looked back. Now I have a Note 2.

I don't think I could go back to an iPhone at this point. The small screen size of the iPhone 5 got me to switch. But the freedom to do what I like, choose my own default apps, etc.... is making it far harder to go back just because of iMessage. The only thing my iPhone friends and family see different on their end is that my messages are now green and not blue. Nothing that important in my opinion. My non-iPhone using friends and family don't see anything different at all.

Also, switching got me out of having to rely on iCloud. Google works with everything. Apple does not. I never liked that; I merely put up with it.




Michael

That pretty much sums me up. Every once in a while I use my work 4S and switch back pretty quickly.

I really liked my 4 when I had it but for me anyway, Android has surpassed iOS for my needs.

Tinmania
Apr 25, 2013, 04:03 PM
I tried Swiftkey too but always come back to Swype. The biggest point is that with Android at least you have a choice!
I'm the same way with Swype: for some reason I just can't get the same "swyping" speed with SwiftKey. I almost stayed with Kii keyboard, which is really good, but still came back to Swype.

I do like the choice! I can even install a clone of iOS keyboard if I like. (Which is why I find it odd when someone says they went back to iOS because they liked the keyboard better.)



Michael

johnjefferson
Apr 25, 2013, 06:32 PM
So I admit off the bat, I'm an Apple fan. Not a fanboy, but a fan indeed.

In terms of phones, I've owned the iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and currently I use an iPhone 5. I upgrade immediately, like a good Apple soldier should.

My neighbor yesterday asked me which phone he should buy. He has been using an iPhone 4 up till this point, and he told me he wants a larger screen, - larger than even the iPhone 5.

Given that the Galaxy S4 is not available yet, I recommended the HTC One, since by all accounts it's the best Android device actually out there in the wild.

He complied, and brought home the One today. I got to play with it tonight, and here are my thoughts...

1.) This is the very first Android device that truly rivals Apple in terms of design. While the back is just a tad busy for an Apple device, the build quality is absolutely fantastic. This is without doubt, the best-designed Android phone on the market.

2.) The screen is absolutely stunning. Yes, it's even more stunning than the iPhone 5 display. I opened up the New York Times full site, and text was even MORE readable on this display, even aside from the size difference between the two. I know people talk about Retina this and Retina that. Fact is, for me at least, I still want a sharper display, and when you put the HTC One next to the iPhone 5, what I've wanted in terms of PPI is right there, easily visible. It's truly stunning, and being NOT an AMOLED screen, it comes without all the deficiencies inherent in that tech (blue whites, lack of white brightness, over-saturated colors etc). The HTC One has 469 ppi, vs 326 ppi on the iPhone 4/4S/5. The difference, to me, is as obvious as a smack in the face. I love it. As far as I'm concerned, the HTC One has the true Retina display.

3.) The speakers raise the bar for what a phone can do. No more channeling sound to the front by cupping your hand around the bottom of the phone when watching movies/YouTube etc. The HTC One has the best speakers I've ever heard on a phone. Two speakers, front facing = game changer for the phone multimedia space.

4.) The ui responsiveness has vastly improved on these devices compared to the previous generation. I've had extensive playtime with my other neighbor's Galaxy Nexus, and the HTC One absolutely destroys the Galaxy Nexus in terms of response. Scrolling up and down web-pages is as close to Apple-like as it gets now, with almost imperceptible lag when doing so. Rotating the screen takes just milliseconds now. Everything is just so smooth.

Just a few cons from my time with the One:

5.) Apps-wise, no comparison. The iPhone has the HTC, and any Android device - soundly beaten.

6.) The One's power button is over on the top left vs top right on the iPhone 5. I grab my phone out of my left pocket with my left hand, so the power-button location is easily hit on the top right. iPhone wins that one.

So what's an Apple lover to do?

I'm torn. So, so torn. I absolutely love the HTC One. I really do. I'm also heavily invested in the Apple world, with numerous Macs, Apple accessories etc littered about my house and office.

But... my oh my is the HTC One a game-changer on the Android front. There is absolutely something to be said for the premium feel the One offers that the Galaxy S4 simply will never do (based on my plastic-y experience when toying with the S3).

Anyway, for those with no tether to Apple or Google, I highly, HIGHLY recommend spending some time with the HTC One. It's quite possibly the best phone on the market right now.

For the first time ever since handling many, many Android phones: Apple - the ball's in your court.

(Picture taken with my iPhone 5, of course!)

Its a nice phone, but you are also comparing it to an iPhone 5 that was released 7 months ago I cant think of any phone that matched the iPhones screen back then. Of course brand new phones will have newer and superior tech. I am sure the 5S and for sure the 6 will see an nice increase in screen resolution and iOS 7 should be a nice refresh.

jamezr
Apr 25, 2013, 06:36 PM
Its a nice phone, but you are also comparing it to an iPhone 5 that was released 7 months ago I cant think of any phone that matched the iPhones screen back then. Of course brand new phones will have newer and superior tech. I am sure the 5S and for sure the 6 will see an nice increase in screen resolution and iOS 7 should be a nice refresh.

True...IP5 was released 7 months ago but it is the best selling smartphone in the world right? So all new contenders will be compared to the IP5....
But then when the 5S comes out you could make the same argument for the HTC One.....

kdarling
Apr 25, 2013, 06:50 PM
5.) Apps-wise, no comparison. The iPhone has the HTC, and any Android device - soundly beaten.


Interesting. For me, the apps I use most often are available on both iOS and Android, and I freely switch between such devices all the time at home.


Flipboard
Mint
Netflix
Optimum TV
Skype
Pandora
all the usual news, weather, travel, kids games, social apps.
mail, calendar, video editors, you name it.


Plus Android has widgets I like, AND the wonderful Back button so I don't have to remember what my context was when I click a linked page/app, AND realtime voice typing.

What apps are missing for you? Apple proprietary messaging or ?

Thanks!

WilliamG
Apr 25, 2013, 06:53 PM
Interesting. For me, the apps I use most often are available on both iOS and Android, and I freely switch between such devices all the time at home.


Flipboard
Mint
Netflix
Optimum TV
Skype
all the usual news, weather, travel, kids games, social apps.


Plus Android has widgets I like, AND the wonderful Back button so I don't have to remember what my context was when I click a linked page/app.

What apps are missing for you? Apple proprietary messaging or ?

Thanks!

Yep, I live in iMessage since it's something my aging immediate family can use. FaceTime, as well, - not sure how to live without it, though I know this will vary from person to person.

AirPlay apps (Remote, for example). Infinity Blade 1 and 2. Tiny Wings, and numerous other games that are just awesome on iOS.

kdarling
Apr 25, 2013, 07:54 PM
Yep, I live in iMessage since it's something my aging immediate family can use. FaceTime, as well, - not sure how to live without it, though I know this will vary from person to person.

That's understandable.

But, hmmm... if you've trapped yourself into Apple proprietary services like that, why did you even try a non-Apple device that has zero chance of ever running those?

Genuinely curious!

WilliamG
Apr 25, 2013, 08:05 PM
That's understandable.

But, hmmm... if you've trapped yourself into Apple proprietary services like that, why did you even try a non-Apple device that has zero chance of ever running those?

Genuinely curious!

Well, because I like to try all new things. :) I'm not going to deny myself awesomeness just because I like a few apps.

In this case, though, I might deny myself (at least for the time being!)

fredaroony
Apr 25, 2013, 08:34 PM
Its a nice phone, but you are also comparing it to an iPhone 5 that was released 7 months ago I cant think of any phone that matched the iPhones screen back then. Of course brand new phones will have newer and superior tech. I am sure the 5S and for sure the 6 will see an nice increase in screen resolution and iOS 7 should be a nice refresh.

Sure you can..the HTC One X and X+ screen is easily as good as the iPhone 5 screen even with a slightly lower PPI. The Xperia S also had a higher PPI than the iPhone 5.

Krimsonmyst
Apr 25, 2013, 09:00 PM
OP, I realise you haven't used the One for TOO long, but can you give an impression of the camera?

I used an iPhone up until the 4, then I moved to a Galaxy S2, and for the past year have been using a Galaxy S3. Until about 48 hours ago I was set on the Galaxy S4, but all these glowing reviews of the One have made me take notice.

The one thing that makes me hesitant is the camera. I understand the 'Ultrapixels' make low light performance better, but 4MP is still a very small size, especially when I like to take really quality pics when I don't always have my DSLR on me.

Basically what I'm asking is - how well does the One perform in outdoors/well lit conditions?

WilliamG
Apr 25, 2013, 10:24 PM
OP, I realise you haven't used the One for TOO long, but can you give an impression of the camera?

I used an iPhone up until the 4, then I moved to a Galaxy S2, and for the past year have been using a Galaxy S3. Until about 48 hours ago I was set on the Galaxy S4, but all these glowing reviews of the One have made me take notice.

The one thing that makes me hesitant is the camera. I understand the 'Ultrapixels' make low light performance better, but 4MP is still a very small size, especially when I like to take really quality pics when I don't always have my DSLR on me.

Basically what I'm asking is - how well does the One perform in outdoors/well lit conditions?

I can't give a final word on the camera. Actually, I'm a photographer so pq is very important to me (I shoot a 5D MKIII). From taking a few photos outside, to me it looked like the HTC One had some excellent low-light picture quality. However, when I took the exact same photo with the iPhone 55 (I had both phones side by side last night), the picture was much more heavily exposed on the iPhone 5. This gave a somewhat false impression that the iPhone 5 images are noisier than the One because of the higher exposure bringing out more noise. I'll have to beg my neighbor to let me borrow his phone for a while longer and do some real comparisons.

Krimsonmyst
Apr 26, 2013, 12:18 AM
I can't give a final word on the camera. Actually, I'm a photographer so pq is very important to me (I shoot a 5D MKIII). From taking a few photos outside, to me it looked like the HTC One had some excellent low-light picture quality. However, when I took the exact same photo with the iPhone 55 (I had both phones side by side last night), the picture was much more heavily exposed on the iPhone 5. This gave a somewhat false impression that the iPhone 5 images are noisier than the One because of the higher exposure bringing out more noise. I'll have to beg my neighbor to let me borrow his phone for a while longer and do some real comparisons.

I shoot with a Nikon D4 normally - so I appreciate proper pq as well :)

My S3 does a great job for everything except low light (which is fine, I don't really shoot a lot of low light on my phone), and I hear the S4 is a big improvement over lit photos, but not much better for low light, so I'm curious to see how the One fares in well lit conditions.

Phokus
Apr 26, 2013, 03:04 PM
For those fretting about iMessage, google will have their own tightly integrated messaging app called Babel coming out soon.

WilliamG
Apr 26, 2013, 04:37 PM
For those fretting about iMessage, google will have their own tightly integrated messaging app called Babel coming out soon.

That doesn't help if all your family has iPhones. :)

tbayrgs
Apr 26, 2013, 05:27 PM
That doesn't help if all your family has iPhones. :)

Well, Google is supposedly planning support for an iOS version as well. But like any other third party messaging app, the trick is getting them to use it. The advantage iMessage has is that it falls back to SMS if the other phone isn't an iPhone. If Google could somehow do the same thing (ie. send an SMS if the device isn't signed into Babel), it would be great as it sound like it'll be much more full featured.

WilliamG
Apr 26, 2013, 05:37 PM
Well, Google is supposedly planning support for an iOS version as well. But like any other third party messaging app, the trick is getting them to use it. The advantage iMessage has is that it falls back to SMS if the other phone isn't an iPhone. If Google could somehow do the same thing (ie. send an SMS if the device isn't signed into Babel), it would be great as it sound like it'll be much more full featured.

Right. And that's exactly where Apple succeeds. Same with FaceTime. It just works. I don't know anyone who uses other video chat apps with the ease of FaceTime.

Stuntman06
Apr 26, 2013, 05:56 PM
Swype is good, but SwiftKey Flow has been my favorite. I guess with Swype style of typing I don't make as many mistakes. However it's more natural to "hunt-and-peck" so to speak than it is to Swype. I guess just a minor annoyance really, but to say iOS keyboard is lacking, in my opinion just isn't true.

I just want to chime in about SwiftKey and Swype. For the past few months, I have been using SwiftKey as it has really blown me away. I've always been a physical, landscape slider keyboard user. When I had to upgrade and there were no decent keyboard phones available, I suffered for months on a touchscreen until I tried SwiftKey. I now conceed that SwiftKey on a touchscreen is better than my physical keyboard (without SwiftKey).

Swype just came out of beta this week for Android, so I tried it as well. While I had SwiftKey, I would use SwiftKey Flow in portrait. I primarily use SwiftKey in landscape to thumb type. Swype in portrait is better than SwiftKey Flow in portrait. Text prediction is about the same, but Flow does not let you choose an alternate word if Flow does not predict my word. Instead it tries to predict the next word. Swype gives you other word options if the word it predicted was not correct.

I feel I am fairly proficient with both SwiftKey and Swype, so I did a typing test with both. Using SwiftKey in landscape while thumb typing, I can type 22 wpm. Using Swype in portrait, I can type 17 wpm. The accuracy with both keyboards is the same (100%).

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For those fretting about iMessage, google will have their own tightly integrated messaging app called Babel coming out soon.

That doesn't help if all your family has iPhones. :)

I've been using WhatsApp. It is cross platform as people I know have iPhones and Androids.

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Right. And that's exactly where Apple succeeds. Same with FaceTime. It just works. I don't know anyone who uses other video chat apps with the ease of FaceTime.

I've been using GTalk and Google+ Hangouts. I can video chat from my Android phone with my wife who has an iPhone (using VTok). Google+ Hangouts also allow multi-way video calls across different platforms and devices. I run a hockey pool with people who cannot all attend in one location. Two people are in 2 different countries and one person had to babysit. I can use my phone or PC.

chagla
Apr 26, 2013, 06:26 PM
Just purchased my HTC One and I have to admit, it is one hell of a phone. Having had every iPhone since, it was ridiculously hard for me to get the balls to even consider switching. I have numerous Apple products in my house and am writing this review on my rMBP so I have invested a lot in the Apple ecosystem. However, the One still drew me in and I have to admit, I am not disappointed at all. Their app store is robust enough to the point where I don't miss all of the iOS exclusive games. The screen on this phone is absolutely amazing. The 1080p screen is something that needs to be seen to believe how nice it is. It is definitely nicer than the iPhone 5 in my opinion.

I thought that Android OS would be a nightmare as I have heard horror stories in the past, but surprisingly Sense 5 makes Android smooth and very easy to manage. I think this is due to Sense 5 as I still don't like TouchWiz on the Samsung phones. Personal preference I guess.

There are some things I do miss from my iPhone.
1) iMessaging - I know this may be something that is dumb to miss but I do have a lot of group iMessages that I do not get anymore on my phone. This along with the emojis from iOS are things that I miss but will learn to live without. (If anyone can figure out how to integrate the emojis from iOS into Android, please respond to this! I want to keep my SwiftKey keyboard installed. Thanks!)
2) I miss the integration with a lot of devices that are made for iDevices. However, due to the lightning connector on the iPhone 5, most of those devices did not work with my phone anyway. Nothing bluetooth can't solve, but of course, the HTC One has bluetooth that works better than my iPhone 5 did (mainly with Entune in my Toyota).

All in all, I am very happy with this device. I think this is a game changer. I was really worried that Apple would come out with a phone that had a bigger screen to compete with these Android devices, but after hearing Tim Cooks comments about screen size, I don't see that happening in the near future. In that case, when the iPhone with a bigger screen comes out, I may switch back. But for now, I am greatly satisfied with my HTC One and would recommend it over any Samsung phone and any other Android device for that matter.

I still love the iPhone 5 but as of now, the HTC One is the phone to get.

I hope this review was helpful! (Also, first post :))

Welcome to android. :)

I'll just add this..the stuff you miss is what eventually gets you to switch back. I done this many times myself. When you first switch, everything is nice about the phone. You love the hardware, the screen, the newness. Once the device becomes just a device, you start to miss the stuff you loved / took for granted on iOS / iphone. I eventually just go back to the iphone. For me imessage is big, love the group chat. I also like the layout / features of certain apps better in iOS vs android. It may be small things, but these are the things I mainly use my phone for.

while you may like facetime/imessage proprietary stuffs, it''s better to use a 3rd party multiplatform technology. something like whatsapp, or skype. the benefits of using them is you can switch devices/platforms with minimal efforts. that's why proprietary stuffs are bad.

iMessage is a big one for me too for a different reason. I got my Mom an iPhone a few years ago and put here on my plan. It doesn't cost much ($10 for the line and 20 for data). I have 1000 text for $10 because I mostly use iMessage and I don't have a text plan on her line because that’s all she uses is iMessage. That means I would have to spend $20 extra a month for unlimited if I got an android or just tell my mom not to text me which would probably not go over very well

have you heard of google voice? it's free, unlimited texting. since you already have data plan, you dont need any extra texting plan.

fredaroony
Apr 26, 2013, 07:43 PM
That doesn't help if all your family has iPhones. :)

Tell them to install WhatApp, it's not hard.

Drunken Master
Apr 26, 2013, 07:56 PM
Is the button placement that strange for right handed people or something. I prefer the volume rocker on the right (htc one) compared to the left of the iphone too.

Yes, it is. It's poorly designed in terms of sleep/wake, because it can only be turned on by pressing said button. The home button will not turn on the device, which is a serious misstep and makes one-handed use for a right handed person impractical.

Design isn't just aesthetic, and because if this issue, not to mention the home button is off center because of the HTC logo, I find the claims of the One being well-designed to be jumping the gun.

WilliamG
Apr 26, 2013, 08:03 PM
Tell them to install WhatApp, it's not hard.

And then confusion will arise from texting with one app, messaging with another etc. With iMessage it all just works.

MacRumorUser
Apr 27, 2013, 12:55 AM
For those fretting about iMessage, google will have their own tightly integrated messaging app called Babel coming out soon.

Yeah and.......

Do you think that resolved the issue?

Well it only does so if you get all your friends and family to move to android too. Babel won't work with iMessage, so how does it resolve the issue for those worried about losing it.

WhatsApp may solve a lot of issues with cross platform but getting older family members to utilise another messaging app after they are so used to default, plus they will probably still need to use the default messaging still for other texts etc... Can be messy.

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Yes, it is. It's poorly designed in terms of sleep/wake, because it can only be turned on by pressing said button. The home button will not turn on the device, which is a serious misstep and makes one-handed use for a right handed person impractical.

Design isn't just aesthetic, and because if this issue, not to mention the home button is off center because of the HTC logo, I find the claims of the One being well-designed to be jumping the gun.



Actually I was thinking one area button placement on the HTC makes better sense design wise is the volume rocker.

If you put a flip case on the HTC one you can adjust volume without having to open the case.

On the Samsung GS4 if you use a flip cover in order to change volume you actually have to open the case because it blocks the access to the volume buttons.

So in that way that too seems badly positioned too.

Sometimes if I'm listening to music via headphones and want to adjust volume I like to reach into my pocket and press volume rocker. On the GS4 if I opt to use a flip case I won't be able to do so, I'll have to pull it out of my pocket, open the case and then press volume.

So yeah, practicality wise for me personally I prefer button position on the One generally.

fredaroony
Apr 27, 2013, 06:29 AM
And then confusion will arise from texting with one app, messaging with another etc. With iMessage it all just works.

Not sounding like you want much help with this...

VulchR
Apr 27, 2013, 07:23 AM
Not sounding like you want much help with this...

iMessage is quite handy, so I imagine that the OP simply misses it. Yes, one could use other apps - everything from Skype to Facebook. I have WhatsApp, Skype, Facebook etc. but really things have been so much easier since all of my nuclear family and some of my extended family have started using Apple machines.

WilliamG
Apr 27, 2013, 09:09 AM
Not sounding like you want much help with this...

I don't need help with this. :)

It's just that I'd feel like kind of an arse by switching to Android and making my entire family get new apps because of my decision! Is that not super selfish of me?

swoosh0217
Apr 27, 2013, 09:32 AM
Ok change of topic... I still have my iPhone 5 and the things I miss are some cydia tweaks like "dismiss keyboard". I don't like pinching in and minimizing my screen after I'm done swiping just to find the "submit reply" button since there's no button on my keyboard that says "done" to make it go away.

The one thing I'm loving with my ONE it's that the screen is a perfect size with nice vivid images just like on my iPhone 5.

WilliamG
Apr 27, 2013, 09:52 AM
Should i get the HTC One after the 4S?? :confused:

If you're in love with Apple, and are deeply embedded in the Apple ecosystem, no. If you're not, then the One might be a good choice. Go play with it and see how you feel.

fredaroony
Apr 27, 2013, 03:16 PM
I don't need help with this. :)

It's just that I'd feel like kind of an arse by switching to Android and making my entire family get new apps because of my decision! Is that not super selfish of me?

No

Gathomblipoob
Apr 27, 2013, 03:24 PM
My biggest gripe with the HTC One is the slow charging rate. HTC must have quick-charge disabled.

WilliamG
Apr 27, 2013, 03:29 PM
My biggest gripe with the HTC One is the slow charging rate. HTC must have quick-charge disabled.

Generally a slower charge preserves the battery integrity longer. So pluses and minuses to slower charging.

fredaroony
Apr 27, 2013, 03:41 PM
My biggest gripe with the HTC One is the slow charging rate. HTC must have quick-charge disabled.

Using the wall charger or PC? PC will always charge much slower.

Gathomblipoob
Apr 27, 2013, 03:43 PM
Generally a slower charge preserves the battery integrity longer. So pluses and minuses to slower charging.

True, but how long does the typical forum-using smartphone owner keep a phone? I don't hear too many stories about iPhone owners with deteriorating batteries.

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Using the wall charger or PC? PC will always charge much slower.

Both. About the same rate of charge. The One takes about 3 1/2 hours to fully charge.

fredaroony
Apr 27, 2013, 03:57 PM
True, but how long does the typical forum-using smartphone owner keep a phone? I don't hear too many stories about iPhone owners with deteriorating batteries.

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Both. About the same rate of charge. The One takes about 3 1/2 hours to fully charge.

Looks like that's the way it is http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/3

WilliamG
Apr 27, 2013, 03:59 PM
True, but how long does the typical forum-using smartphone owner keep a phone? I don't hear too many stories about iPhone owners with deteriorating batteries.

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Both. About the same rate of charge. The One takes about 3 1/2 hours to fully charge.

My iPhone 5 battery isn't what it was. It gets charged once a day like clockwork since release date.

Stuntman06
Apr 27, 2013, 06:47 PM
And then confusion will arise from texting with one app, messaging with another etc. With iMessage it all just works.

There are many great messaging apps. Unfortunately, none are a universal standard available on every device no matter what network or manufacturer. It's frustrating when whatever cool messaging app you use, there are always some people you want to communicate with who don't have it.

WilliamG
Apr 27, 2013, 07:52 PM
There are many great messaging apps. Unfortunately, none are a universal standard available on every device no matter what network or manufacturer. It's frustrating when whatever cool messaging app you use, there are always some people you want to communicate with who don't have it.

Which is why iMessage works so well. It texts and messages. Most of my family live in another country so being able to iMessage for free = win. And none of us has to use a separate app for our domestic texts.

Mxbzz
Apr 27, 2013, 10:54 PM
Which is why iMessage works so well. It texts and messages. Most of my family live in another country so being able to iMessage for free = win. And none of us has to use a separate app for our domestic texts.

There is definitely no equivalent for iMessage on Android, but I've actually been quite happy with Facebook Messenger. The latest update incorporates SMS and Facebook messages into the same application. The UI is quite polished as well.

Again, it's definitely not iMessage, but it is a decent alternative. I liked the Messenger app so much it has become my default SMS app. :)

taedouni
Apr 28, 2013, 01:45 AM
Honestly, my biggest gripe with Android is the typing. I've been using my GS3 since last year so I'm completely used to it. But to this day I still make way more typing mistakes on Android. It's almost embarrassing really. To be fair, the native Android keyboard is best, but it seems like almost no Android phones other than Nexus devices provide that as an option.

One word. Swiftkey :)

vikingjunior
Apr 28, 2013, 07:07 AM
It would of been great if they went with on screen buttons. I don't understand the resistance even with the S4. Try any on screen button Android and you will see it responds much quicker than physical keys. So the wait for either a true LTE Nexus continues or the Motorola X!

ChrisTX
Apr 28, 2013, 02:17 PM
One word. Swiftkey :)

I've tried every setting in Swiftkey, and nothing. Recently downloaded the official Swype keyboard from the PlayStore(been using Swype beta), and it was ok, but SwiftKey flow is my all time favorite. Don't get me wrong, I don't make tons of mistakes. But it's little things like "tje" instead of the, and hitting the wrong letters on accident. Maybe it's just me, because I'm the only one I know that has this problem. However I've never had this problem with the Jellybean, or iOS keyboard. On the iPhone I was an extremely rapid typer without any mistakes. I just wish the official Android keyboard came as an option on all Android smartphones.

WilliamG
Apr 28, 2013, 07:40 PM
I'm very curious if the dual-speaker setup rotates with the screen. So left and right channels are always correct if you rotate the screen one way or the other. I'd guess so, but it would be fun to have confirmation of it. :)

onthecouchagain
Apr 28, 2013, 07:43 PM
HTC One is the perfect balance of aesthetics from Apple, and (after ridding it of the senseless Sense) of freedom with Android.

Aside from a few downright stupid decisions by HTC (HTC logo not being home button, for example...) it's a winning combination.

I'm so glad to be free of iOS. It's like waking up from a nightmare.

Stuntman06
Apr 29, 2013, 11:10 PM
I've tried every setting in Swiftkey, and nothing. Recently downloaded the official Swype keyboard from the PlayStore(been using Swype beta), and it was ok, but SwiftKey flow is my all time favorite. Don't get me wrong, I don't make tons of mistakes. But it's little things like "tje" instead of the, and hitting the wrong letters on accident. Maybe it's just me, because I'm the only one I know that has this problem. However I've never had this problem with the Jellybean, or iOS keyboard. On the iPhone I was an extremely rapid typer without any mistakes. I just wish the official Android keyboard came as an option on all Android smartphones.

I hate all touch screen keyboards. SwiftKey was the only one I found that allowed me to type accurately and quickly, even more so than my physical keyboard on my landscape slider keyboard phone.

sentinelsx
Apr 30, 2013, 12:33 AM
HTC One is the perfect balance of aesthetics from Apple, and (after ridding it of the senseless Sense) of freedom with Android.

Aside from a few downright stupid decisions by HTC (HTC logo not being home button, for example...) it's a winning combination.

I'm so glad to be free of iOS. It's like waking up from a nightmare.

Are you already running a custom rom?

onthecouchagain
Apr 30, 2013, 07:02 AM
Are you already running a custom rom?

No. I know nothing of how to flash ROMs. I get a little lost over at XDA anytime I try to. Also I'm on a Mac and the instructions are almost always PC, which worries me because if I have issues, I won't readily get the answer, I feel.

I'm just running Nova launcher with Swipe Pad for a near-full gesture HTC One. It's groovy.

Is it super easy to run a custom ROM? Like, is there a one-click method? I have a dev edition, btw.

MacRumorUser
Apr 30, 2013, 07:13 AM
No. I know nothing of how to flash ROMs. I get a little lost over at XDA anytime I try to. Also I'm on a Mac and the instructions are almost always PC, which worries me because if I have issues, I won't readily get the answer, I feel.

Lol. That's me too. They also are not very friendly to newbies, and their 'easy' 'new to' threads are still not easy for those new to.

chagla
Apr 30, 2013, 07:38 AM
No. I know nothing of how to flash ROMs. I get a little lost over at XDA anytime I try to. Also I'm on a Mac and the instructions are almost always PC, which worries me because if I have issues, I won't readily get the answer, I feel.

I'm just running Nova launcher with Swipe Pad for a near-full gesture HTC One. It's groovy.

Is it super easy to run a custom ROM? Like, is there a one-click method? I have a dev edition, btw.

running a custom rom is like installing a whole OS on your phone, it's hardcore! since you have a dev edition, bootloader is unlocked. your htc one is going to be easier to put custom rom than lets say a tmobile or att branded htc.

it sounds like you're fairly new on android (welcome btw), so i'd recommend check out the XDA forums a little bit, understand the flow of rooting > flashing etc. again you DONT have to run a custom rom. 98% of the Android customizations can be done without rooting (aka jailbreaking) and without voiding warranty. its just a matter of installing an app from the play store. just a matter of few minutes.

you can root and put custom rom but understand that voids warranty. in some cases you can "undo" it and make it pristine. search for "shipped rom" and see if there's factory HTC rom available. its usually few hundred MB HTC executable (kind of like restoring iphone on DFU mode).

play it safe for a little bit and once ur comfortable you can try it.

Tinmania
Apr 30, 2013, 11:25 AM
Lol. That's me too. They also are not very friendly to newbies, and their 'easy' 'new to' threads are still not easy for those new to.

You mean those easy threads that go on for 672 pages? The ones where the gotcha that you absolutely need to know is somewhere between page 200 and 500? Those threads?



Michael

MacRumorUser
Apr 30, 2013, 12:34 PM
You mean those easy threads that go on for 672 pages? The ones where the gotcha that you absolutely need to know is somewhere between page 200 and 500? Those threads?



Michael

Exactly lol :D

wenghan1992
May 12, 2013, 11:52 PM
I am a iPhone 5 owner, a proud owner. I admit that sometimes i can be a super apple fanboy, yes Fanboy. After seeing HTC One in person, i feel iPhone 5 design is not on par with the HTC One, which make me sad.

After playing around with the HTC One, i am considering switching to HTC One because of it beautiful design. But the ecosystem of Apple App Store and iTunes hold me back. Hope iOS 7 will bring some awesome feature to the table. :apple:

Monocat
Jun 3, 2013, 05:33 PM
Ok change of topic... I still have my iPhone 5 and the things I miss are some cydia tweaks like "dismiss keyboard". I don't like pinching in and minimizing my screen after I'm done swiping just to find the "submit reply" button since there's no button on my keyboard that says "done" to make it go away.

Back button is your friend :)

Southernboyj
Jun 3, 2013, 07:55 PM
Curious about battery life. I have heard both good and bad.

I've been using the HTC One heavily for the past month or so. Battery life is decent, but I'm coming from that massive Galaxy Note 2 battery.

I definitely think the HTC One is on par with my old iPhone 5/Galaxy S3.

zbarvian
Jun 3, 2013, 07:56 PM
There is definitely no equivalent for iMessage on Android, but I've actually been quite happy with Facebook Messenger. The latest update incorporates SMS and Facebook messages into the same application. The UI is quite polished as well.

Again, it's definitely not iMessage, but it is a decent alternative. I liked the Messenger app so much it has become my default SMS app. :)

Why isn't Facebook Messenger as good as iMessage? I like the emoji more and the integration of SMS on Android makes it seem right on par with iMessage. Add in Chat Heads, and it seems even better.

Southernboyj
Jun 3, 2013, 07:57 PM
Why isn't Facebook Messenger as good as iMessage? I like the emoji more and the integration of SMS on Android makes it seem right on par with iMessage. Add in Chat Heads, and it seems even better.

As someone with unlimited texting, I hardly found iMessage useful.

I suppose it's cool to see when someone is typing back to you, but apart from that.. I hardly used it to text from my iPad/Macs.

ApplEngineer
Jun 3, 2013, 09:45 PM
I agree with the OP. recently switched from iPhone 5 to the One and really like the phone. Wanted something different from ios and the sense touches are really clean, a lot closer to ios seamlessness. One downside is I wish the power button wasn't so recessed and on the side or top right instead of where it is. I guess it would work for left handed folks lol

cherishzm
Jun 4, 2013, 03:48 PM
I've been using iPhones since the 3G and tried to make the switch to what seems to be the best Android phone available on the market, HTC One. I really like few things about the One that OP also mentioned including the design & build quality, excellent LCD display that's not AMOLED, and incredible sound from speakers.

However, after a few hours of playing with it, I easily noticed it does not respond to my touches (and multi-touches) and scrolls as well as my iPhone 5 does. I had few unintended touch responses from scrolling through and had to make more than one touch to get a response. Also noticed the OS overall is not as smooth as iOS which was expected before trying. Another thing that bothered me was that the fact I could not use it with and in one hand. I'm not sure how big screen can go for someone to still use it with one hand but it was a turnoff for me.

My wife also wanted to use a phone with a bigger screen than her iPhone 5 but quickly noticed the same thing - touch responses.

I wish I could install iOS on the HTC One to make a perfect smartphone!

I know it's impossible so sadly I'm selling it... :(

IFRIT
Jun 4, 2013, 04:07 PM
I've been using iPhones since the 3G and tried to make the switch to what seems to be the best Android phone available on the market, HTC One. I really like few things about the One that OP also mentioned including the design & build quality, excellent LCD display that's not AMOLED, and incredible sound from speakers.

However, after a few hours of playing with it, I easily noticed it does not respond to my touches (and multi-touches) and scrolls as well as my iPhone 5 does. I had few unintended touch responses from scrolling through and had to make more than one touch to get a response. Also noticed the OS overall is not as smooth as iOS which was expected before trying. Another thing that bothered me was that the fact I could not use it with and in one hand. I'm not sure how big screen can go for someone to still use it with one hand but it was a turnoff for me.

My wife also wanted to use a phone with a bigger screen than her iPhone 5 but quickly noticed the same thing - touch responses.

I wish I could install iOS on the HTC One to make a perfect smartphone!

I know it's impossible so sadly I'm selling it... :(

iOS on the HTC One, i just threw up in my mouth a little.

LorPGDL
Jun 4, 2013, 04:08 PM
if you use nova launcher with animations speed set to faster than light its easily as responsive as the iphone 5. this comes from a former iphone 5 owner. i agree though stock sense is slower, but still lagfree.

Menneisyys2
Jun 4, 2013, 04:11 PM
I don't hear too many stories about iPhone owners with deteriorating batteries.

From me, you will :) Some shots I've taken of 3GS batteries I've recently changed (will later post a full article on them, their S/N etc. so that everybody knows whether his / her 3GS may also have such a dangeorus battery):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33448355@N07/sets/72157633931601917/

I've swapped batteries in two 3GS'es purchased together. (Will also post their S/N.) The batteries' S/N's are pretty close to each other (they are clearly readable in the shots). The third battery in some images is another genuine 3GS battery, purchased right at the European debut of the handset (I've lined up for it in the dawn.) The battery has a completely different S/N and has no signs of swelling.

And all this only after some 3.5 years... those are the worst batteries I've ever seen. (I've been using mobile devices since the original Apple Newton. Had had most Windows Mobile, Symbian and Palm flagships before the iOS era. Have seen several Li-Ion / Poly batteries swelling in the last 12-13 years (that is, since they have been used in mobile devices) but never THAT badly.

EDIT: it seems every iPhone 3GS battery starting with AE94 will swell badly. I've just found the following picture HERE (http://szifon.com/2013/06/07/csak-ovatosan-az-olcsobbnal-is-olcsobb-toltokkel/):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33448355@N07/8982406318/sizes/o/in/set-72157633931601917/

The S/N of this battery starts with AE9461, while the two batteries I've posted images of earlier with AE9414. The one that didn't at all swell had a completely different S/N, starting with YW92.

Fireblade
Jun 5, 2013, 09:19 AM
iOS on the HTC One, i just threw up in my mouth a little.

This.

IOS on the HTC One would be everything but a perfect smartphone :eek:

Night Spring
Jun 5, 2013, 11:01 AM
This.

IOS on the HTC One would be everything but a perfect smartphone :eek:

Why, what would be wrong with that, if such things were possible?

For example, I'm currently running Windows 7 on my iMac, and it's the best Windows computer I've ever used.

So, those of you who object to the idea of iOS on HTC One, what exactly is your problem with that concept? Is there something wrong hardware-wise with the HTC One that would make it a less than ideal iOS device?

daneoni
Jun 5, 2013, 11:14 AM
Why, what would be wrong with that, if such things were possible?

For example, I'm currently running Windows 7 on my iMac, and it's the best Windows computer I've ever used.

So, those of you who object to the idea of iOS on HTC One, what exactly is your problem with that concept? Is there something wrong hardware-wise with the HTC One that would make it a less than ideal iOS device?

They're Fandroids so the very thought of iOS makes them want to "throw up in my mouth a little"

Rt835j
Jun 5, 2013, 02:47 PM
I currently have an iPhone 5 now and I'm getting my htc one today..the only thing I'm going to really miss are the emoji's lol. I know you can download SMS pro but I don't like the idea of using two messenging clients

pirg
Jun 5, 2013, 02:52 PM
I currently have an iPhone 5 now and I'm getting my htc one today..the only thing I'm going to really miss are the emoji's lol. I know you can download SMS pro but I don't like the idea of using two messenging clients

Why use two? Just use one

Dontazemebro
Jun 5, 2013, 03:11 PM
Why, what would be wrong with that, if such things were possible?

For example, I'm currently running Windows 7 on my iMac, and it's the best Windows computer I've ever used.

So, those of you who object to the idea of iOS on HTC One, what exactly is your problem with that concept? Is there something wrong hardware-wise with the HTC One that would make it a less than ideal iOS device?

Because having a walled, restrictive, inaccessible garden on an Android device goes against the very grain of android.

A lot of us just narrowly escaped from that garden and now you're trying to lock us back in :p

Fireblade
Jun 5, 2013, 04:01 PM
Why, what would be wrong with that, if such things were possible?

For example, I'm currently running Windows 7 on my iMac, and it's the best Windows computer I've ever used.

So, those of you who object to the idea of iOS on HTC One, what exactly is your problem with that concept? Is there something wrong hardware-wise with the HTC One that would make it a less than ideal iOS device?

There would be nothing wrong with it, this combination just wouldn't be a perfect smartphone.
Especially because of the limitations IOS is facing.

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They're Fandroids so the very thought of iOS makes them want to "throw up in my mouth a little"

Hmmm not gonna worth an answer I guess.

Night Spring
Jun 5, 2013, 04:32 PM
Because having a walled, restrictive, inaccessible garden on an Android device goes against the very grain of android.

A lot of us just narrowly escaped from that garden and now you're trying to lock us back in :p

But nobody is trying to lock anyone back in -- if you are happy with Android, stay with Android all you want! But for those of us who like iOS but perhaps want more flexibility in hardware, I don't see any negatives if we could load iOS on another maker's smartphone.

daneoni
Jun 5, 2013, 04:44 PM
Hmmm not gonna worth an answer I guess.

Ah, but alas...already answered.

Menneisyys2
Jun 7, 2013, 06:20 PM
EDIT: it seems every iPhone 3GS battery starting with AE94 will swell badly. ...

(Just added this new section in my prev. post.)

LeoNobilis
Jun 11, 2013, 07:43 PM
So I admit off the bat, I'm an Apple fan. Not a fanboy, but a fan indeed.

In terms of phones, I've owned the iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and currently I use an iPhone 5. I upgrade immediately, like a good Apple soldier should.

My neighbor yesterday asked me which phone he should buy. He has been using an iPhone 4 up till this point, and he told me he wants a larger screen, - larger than even the iPhone 5.

Given that the Galaxy S4 is not available yet, I recommended the HTC One, since by all accounts it's the best Android device actually out there in the wild.

He complied, and brought home the One today. I got to play with it tonight, and here are my thoughts...

1.) This is the very first Android device that truly rivals Apple in terms of design. While the back is just a tad busy for an Apple device, the build quality is absolutely fantastic. This is without doubt, the best-designed Android phone on the market.

2.) The screen is absolutely stunning. Yes, it's even more stunning than the iPhone 5 display. I opened up the New York Times full site, and text was even MORE readable on this display, even aside from the size difference between the two. I know people talk about Retina this and Retina that. Fact is, for me at least, I still want a sharper display, and when you put the HTC One next to the iPhone 5, what I've wanted in terms of PPI is right there, easily visible. It's truly stunning, and being NOT an AMOLED screen, it comes without all the deficiencies inherent in that tech (blue whites, lack of white brightness, over-saturated colors etc). The HTC One has 469 ppi, vs 326 ppi on the iPhone 4/4S/5. The difference, to me, is as obvious as a smack in the face. I love it. As far as I'm concerned, the HTC One has the true Retina display.

3.) The speakers raise the bar for what a phone can do. No more channeling sound to the front by cupping your hand around the bottom of the phone when watching movies/YouTube etc. The HTC One has the best speakers I've ever heard on a phone. Two speakers, front facing = game changer for the phone multimedia space.

4.) The ui responsiveness has vastly improved on these devices compared to the previous generation. I've had extensive playtime with my other neighbor's Galaxy Nexus, and the HTC One absolutely destroys the Galaxy Nexus in terms of response. Scrolling up and down web-pages is as close to Apple-like as it gets now, with almost imperceptible lag when doing so. Rotating the screen takes just milliseconds now. Everything is just so smooth.

Just a few cons from my time with the One:

5.) Apps-wise, no comparison. The iPhone has the HTC, and any Android device - soundly beaten.

6.) The One's power button is over on the top left vs top right on the iPhone 5. I grab my phone out of my left pocket with my left hand, so the power-button location is easily hit on the top right. iPhone wins that one.

So what's an Apple lover to do?

I'm torn. So, so torn. I absolutely love the HTC One. I really do. I'm also heavily invested in the Apple world, with numerous Macs, Apple accessories etc littered about my house and office.

But... my oh my is the HTC One a game-changer on the Android front. There is absolutely something to be said for the premium feel the One offers that the Galaxy S4 simply will never do (based on my plastic-y experience when toying with the S3).

Anyway, for those with no tether to Apple or Google, I highly, HIGHLY recommend spending some time with the HTC One. It's quite possibly the best phone on the market right now.

For the first time ever since handling many, many Android phones: Apple - the ball's in your court.

(Picture taken with my iPhone 5, of course!)

Very interesting, indeed! I did covet the Swype/SwiftKey Flow/SlideIt, the larger screen and the stereo speakers, but little did I know even the per-inch resolution was so much greater! IPS display?
I agree: the best looking phone at the moment along with the Nexus 4, the Galaxy S4 & the iPhone! Those asian copycats have learned to copy properly and even to almost surpass. A beauty, indeed!

It's a shame, I'm so heavily invested into Apple - from MacBook Pros (which, I suppose, should sync allright to Android), to 12.114 iOS apps (and counting), of which quite a few are paid, and a dozen - quite expensive, and hardware - chargers, cables and the bloody expensive LifeProof case, bike mount, etc.
Also, there's probably no semi-rugged waterproof case with a bicycle / motorcycle handlebar mount, an armband & belt clip for the HTC One.

I came across an article yesterday that mentioned a "Google Edition" of the HTC One soon to be available. That should guarantee a few years of hassle-free, immediate OS updates (one of my main gripes with Android).

LeoNobilis
Jun 12, 2013, 08:59 AM
The new htc one is such a beauty. I wish that Apple would release a phone that would blow the competition out of the water like the iPhone 4 did. The iPhone 5 has a nice build quality but it's lacking features compared to other devices. I also feel that they really just played catch up with the iPhone 5. But now they're behind yet again. They need to release a 4.3" phone. I think that it's the best size and it should still be usable with one hand. And for the love of God, please Apple, please improve predictive typing.

I concur, except I do find even 4.3" too small. I'd say, 4.8" as the very minimum.
I also share your sentiment for an improved keyboard. My suggestion would be to include a number of superior input technologies with the OS, such as SwiftKey Flow / Nuance T9 / Swype / SlideIt, etc. and Fleksy. All of them are excellent, however, it should be up to the end user to switch between a slide input keyboard and [something like] Fleksy, depending on the convenience of the moment.
Apple's current keyboard used to be quite revolutionary at the time, but it's not even a contender anymore both in terms of ergonomic efficiency, and productivity.

WilliamG
Jul 2, 2013, 12:20 PM
So I couldn't resist...

Nokia Lumia 928, HTC One, iPhone 5.

http://i.imgur.com/FCr1KVb.jpg

The only way to truly know is to have them all, right? My wife thinks I'm insane. However, she gets it. :D

I can say this: Windows Phone 8 is sorely lacking in hardware (1280x768 pentile display, really? On a flagship device?), and apps.

The HTC One is an incredible phone. Now owning it I just wish iOS 6/7 were on it.

The 468 ppi HTC One positively DESTROYS the iPhone 5's 326 ppi Retina display. Having them both for a day now it's clear Apple needs to step up the resolution. When you have small text (e.g. the desktop www.nyt.com), the HTC One just shines. The small text is perfectly formed and not "jagged" like on the iPhone. Just... amazing.

And the sound. Oh. My. Goodness. The speakers on the HTC One (I know I said it before) are simply incredible. Better than iPhone, better than iPad. I'm truly not sure I've heard speakers this good on any phone OR tablet.

If you guys have any questions, feel free. I'm in geek heaven right now. :D

Razeus
Jul 2, 2013, 12:58 PM
HTC One's sub-par camera (in resolution) and the battery life issues is why I chose the S4 over it.

srkmish
Jul 2, 2013, 01:00 PM
What will happen after 2 years when HTC One Battery goes down. Will HTC replace it and how much will it charge tentatively?

KentuckyHouse
Jul 2, 2013, 01:09 PM
HTC One's sub-par camera (in resolution) and the battery life issues is why I chose the S4 over it.

This is also why I'm looking to trade my One for the S4 right now.

WilliamG
Jul 2, 2013, 01:48 PM
HTC One's sub-par camera (in resolution) and the battery life issues is why I chose the S4 over it.

This is also why I'm looking to trade my One for the S4 right now.

Can't say I blame you if taking stunning pictures is your goal. The HTC One is by FAR the weakest camera of the three. The Lumia is probably the best camera, but it has some serious noise reduction going on, even in "reasonable" light. The iPhone 5 tends to have the "most rounded" camera, but there's no doubting the Lumia's low-light awesomeness.

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What will happen after 2 years when HTC One Battery goes down. Will HTC replace it and how much will it charge tentatively?

Apparently changing the battery is pretty much impossible. But by that point I'll have moved on to the HTC One XSGTiWRX model, or whatever the heck it's called... :D

coldjeanzzz
Jul 2, 2013, 02:20 PM
What will happen after 2 years when HTC One Battery goes down. Will HTC replace it and how much will it charge tentatively?

That's actually a big problem in my eyes. My last Evo 4G had its battery die after 2 years (basically couldn't stay on for more than a couple of hours). Luckily the battery was replaceable so I got a new one.

I do tend to keep my phones for more than 2 years, usually until I feel like it's causing me more problems than helping, so I don't know if I could afford to invest in another HTC product.

jaymzuk
Jul 2, 2013, 02:49 PM
HTC One's sub-par camera (in resolution) and the battery life issues is why I chose the S4 over it.

What battery life issues? I can get almost 2 full days use out of mine

Razeus
Jul 2, 2013, 03:49 PM
What battery life issues? I can get almost 2 full days use out of mine

Unless you're using your smartphone has a phone, I find this hard to believe.

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And other reason I didn't get an HTC. Their flagship phones don't get updates.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/2/4486950/htc-confirms-one-s-no-android-sense-5-update#comments

Though the HTC One S is still a young phone at just over a year old, its update cycle has come to an end. HTC tells us that the One S will no longer be receiving updates, keeping it on Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean and Sense 4+ at the latest. The phone's 1.5GHz processor and 1GB of RAM should have made it powerful enough to handle any Android releases coming down the pipeline right now, but the lack of continued updates for an Android device remains ó unfortunately ó unsurprising.

WilliamG
Jul 2, 2013, 03:52 PM
What battery life issues? I can get almost 2 full days use out of mine

Unless you're using your smartphone has a phone, I find this hard to believe.

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And other reason I didn't get an HTC. Their flagship phones don't get updates.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/2/4486950/htc-confirms-one-s-no-android-sense-5-update#comments


Yeah, 2 days battery life sounds... not really possible if you're using it as a phone. I burned through 3/4 of the battery today using it for a few hours while talking on the phone portion.

As far as updates go, the only people that care are the people who root the living crap out of their devices anyway. The average Android buyer has no clue about Jelly Bean and 4.1 vs 4.2 etc etc. So when the One stops being supported, I'll just root it with Cyanogenmod (if not way before).

WilliamG
Jul 2, 2013, 04:04 PM
So I've been using the HTC One all day. I cannot get over how spectacular the sound is on this thing. Either through the speakers or the included earbuds, the bar has been raised. Going back to the iPhone 5 is painful in this regard..

*cries*

I feel like I'm in the cheating stage of marriage! :(:(

jaymzuk
Jul 2, 2013, 04:55 PM
Yeah, 2 days battery life sounds... not really possible if you're using it as a phone. I burned through 3/4 of the battery today using it for a few hours while talking on the phone portion.

As far as updates go, the only people that care are the people who root the living crap out of their devices anyway. The average Android buyer has no clue about Jelly Bean and 4.1 vs 4.2 etc etc. So when the One stops being supported, I'll just root it with Cyanogenmod (if not way before).

I leave power saver mode on, and admittedly I use power intensive apps rarely (Read: A little bit of Real Racing). It's primarily my alarm clock, music when getting ready in the morning, email client, IM & social media hub as well as using it for some casual browsing. Other apps get used, but they're generally not too complex, such as to find airline prices etc.

I've been seriously impressed by the battery in the HTC One. Really heavy users will always be within 10 feet of a power cable anyway, battery life is only really an issue for those where the battery life is only enough to get you part way through a day when you have no opportunity to charge it up.

WilliamG
Jul 2, 2013, 04:57 PM
I leave power saver mode on, and admittedly I use power intensive apps rarely (Read: A little bit of Real Racing). It's primarily my alarm clock, music when getting ready in the morning, email client, IM & social media hub as well as using it for some casual browsing. Other apps get used, but they're generally not too complex, such as to find airline prices etc.

I've been seriously impressed by the battery in the HTC One. Really heavy users will always be within 10 feet of a power cable anyway, battery life is only really an issue for those where the battery life is only enough to get you part way through a day when you have no opportunity to charge it up.

Right, usage case is everything. Power saver mode may indeed help. I should try that, too.

Seriously, I wish the camera weren't such poop, though. I'm not sure what anandtech were thinking when they praised the camera so much...

JakeT85
Jul 2, 2013, 06:12 PM
So I couldn't resist...

Nokia Lumia 928, HTC One, iPhone 5.

Image (http://i.imgur.com/FCr1KVb.jpg)

The only way to truly know is to have them all, right? My wife thinks I'm insane. However, she gets it. :D

I can say this: Windows Phone 8 is sorely lacking in hardware (1280x768 pentile display, really? On a flagship device?), and apps.

The HTC One is an incredible phone. Now owning it I just wish iOS 6/7 were on it.

The 468 ppi HTC One positively DESTROYS the iPhone 5's 326 ppi Retina display. Having them both for a day now it's clear Apple needs to step up the resolution. When you have small text (e.g. the desktop www.nyt.com), the HTC One just shines. The small text is perfectly formed and not "jagged" like on the iPhone. Just... amazing.

And the sound. Oh. My. Goodness. The speakers on the HTC One (I know I said it before) are simply incredible. Better than iPhone, better than iPad. I'm truly not sure I've heard speakers this good on any phone OR tablet.

If you guys have any questions, feel free. I'm in geek heaven right now. :D

You are living my dream haha. My wife is not as understanding about my tech needs. I am debating on switching from my iPhone 5 to the HTC one though and would like to know, over time which phone do you use most overall and which phone do you reach for for this purpose/that purpose right now and why. I'm on the fence still after the 100's of posts Ive read. I know app quality is better on iPhone but does it really matter how nice it looks and fluid it is when the android version has more app capabilities? On the other side I know android has all these extra capabilities but does it all really get used that much in practice and is it worth the trade off of stability and my tablet not talking to my iPhone and MacBook? So many variables. Like I said keep posted on which phone you find yourself using as a daily driver as the newness wears off.

WilliamG
Jul 2, 2013, 06:16 PM
You are living my dream haha. My wife is not as understanding about my tech needs. I am debating on switching from my iPhone 5 to the HTC one though and would like to know, over time which phone do you use most overall and which phone do you reach for for this purpose/that purpose right now and why. I'm on the fence still after the 100's of posts Ive read. I know app quality is better on iPhone but does it really matter how nice it looks and fluid it is when the android version has more app capabilities? On the other side I know android has all these extra capabilities but does it all really get used that much in practice and is it worth the trade off of stability and my tablet not talking to my iPhone and MacBook? So many variables. Like I said keep posted on which phone you find yourself using as a daily driver as the newness wears off.

I can already tell you I'm probably going to stick with my iPhone 5. :)

I love the HTC One. There's no doubt in my mind it's the best phone out there for MY needs:

1.) Super-res display, without pentile nonsense.
2.) Best sound out there.
3.) Super speedy
4.) Great build quality, rivaled only by Apple's manufacturing processes.


But, I'm so heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem. I suppose if I can figure out AirPlay alternatives and iMessage alternatives etc, I can probably make it work, but heck - even Words with Friends just plain sucks on Android (laggy, ugly mess). It also sucks on Windows Phone 8, but that's another story.

In any case, I wish wish wish the HTC One were the iPhone 6, somehow. But it's not.

Plus I love being able to use my phone with one hand, which you can't do with the One.

But I love the One!

But I love my iPhone!

*sigh*....

Must.. take... more... meds...

applelover1016
Jul 5, 2013, 12:20 PM
I'll just add this..the stuff you miss is what eventually gets you to switch back. I done this many times myself. When you first switch, everything is nice about the phone. You love the hardware, the screen, the newness. Once the device becomes just a device, you start to miss the stuff you loved / took for granted on iOS / iphone. I eventually just go back to the iphone. For me imessage is big, love the group chat. I also like the layout / features of certain apps better in iOS vs android. It may be small things, but these are the things I mainly use my phone for.

Thought it was just me, I had the htc one for a while and ended switching back for the iPhone 5. call it what you want, but there is just something about ios that gets me to come back. Don't get me wrong the htc one is the best phone on the market but like the saying goes....different strokes for different folks:D

sammieboy
Jul 5, 2013, 02:28 PM
I can already tell you I'm probably going to stick with my iPhone 5. :)

I love the HTC One. There's no doubt in my mind it's the best phone out there for MY needs:

1.) Super-res display, without pentile nonsense.
2.) Best sound out there.
3.) Super speedy
4.) Great build quality, rivaled only by Apple's manufacturing processes.


But, I'm so heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem. I suppose if I can figure out AirPlay alternatives and iMessage alternatives etc, I can probably make it work, but heck - even Words with Friends just plain sucks on Android (laggy, ugly mess). It also sucks on Windows Phone 8, but that's another story.

In any case, I wish wish wish the HTC One were the iPhone 6, somehow. But it's not.

Plus I love being able to use my phone with one hand, which you can't do with the One.

But I love the One!

But I love my iPhone!

*sigh*....

Must.. take... more... meds...

I love your post, just wanted to let everyone know that lol. I feel the same exact way, but I'm sticking w/ the HTC One until Iphone 6 comes out!

WilliamG
Jul 6, 2013, 12:29 PM
I love your post, just wanted to let everyone know that lol. I feel the same exact way, but I'm sticking w/ the HTC One until Iphone 6 comes out!

Hehe thanks. :)

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I reached a conclusion! I was right! I'm sticking with iPhone 5! This is just a jumble of thoughts...

I'm back to the iPhone 5. I just don't like Android. The apps are a mess, the interface is a mess (even moving apps to folders is inconsistent with stock 4.2.2). And then the typical web-page freezing etc.. It also lacks the silky smoothness of iOS+iPhone 5. Pretty sad this old dual core phone can pwn any Android device. And Plex doesn't work with a smooth frame-rate, which is just another nail for me, despite workarounds with file managers etc (ES File Explorer + MX Player is a nice combo).

I can also use my iPhone 5 with one hand. I love the res and audio of the HTC. It's amazing. But I'm giving up all ergonomics for it. Others are used to it so they're getting the best phone in terms of hardware.

Sigh...

I don't even know what I want anymore. Maybe Apple was right. Maybe 4" displays are the best?

I also wanted to mention... There's something about Android that makes it so that I don't want to use my phone. iOS is so inviting - from the slickness of the UI to the font style in Safari. It just all works so cohesively. I knew I was done with Android today when I picked up the HTC One while lying in bed, and struggled to unlock it with my right hand (the power button is on the left side at the top, grr!), and then couldn't even reach on the screen where I wanted to tap a link. Then, web pages were freezing on me or just not working:

e.g. open this page on the HTC One. Scrolling up and down is broken until all the ads show!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2012/03/15/words-with-friends-creators-say-infuriating-flaw-is-a-feature-not-a-bug/

And then for some reason if there's a photo, and you touch it while scrolling, the screen refuses to accept scroll commands unless you touch text areas and scroll. Gaaaah!

It's just a myriad of things... I guess it came down to primarily for me - the things I use are apps, and the apps have to be easy to use. With the iPhone 5 the apps are the best, and it's easy to use because the screen is smaller and everything is so much smoother, UI-wise. I've almost dropped the One trying to hold it in positions possible for one hand. And I have huge hands.

Bah... I'm jealous of that screen and speakers and... I think that's about it.

iOS 7 it is, then. The iPhone+iOS is like... coming home to something comforting and warm. The HTC One+Android is like... going out to an awesome party that's little out of its depth, - things don't go quite as planned, - but it's still fun to experience for a little while. But only a little while.

(I still love you, HTC - I miss your PPI - the TRUE Retina display)

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On a side-note, I think I decided that even at 4.7", the HTC One is tablet (or phablet or whatever the heck you want to call it). How do we determine tablet/phablet vs phone? I think it should be ability to use easily in one hand. I know some people can't use the iPhone 5 incredibly easily in one hand (that top right corner for right-handers can be a tad tricky), but it's still quite possible. The HTC One is just a nightmare in one hand for many, many things (try bringing up the tabs page in Chrome, for example, - or pulling down the notification bar - impossible without shimmying the phone in the hand and risking dropping it..).

I'm so glad iOS 7 Control Center is accessed from the bottom of the screen. Will be so easy to get to. Yay Apple.

Peterg2
Jul 6, 2013, 02:09 PM
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e.g. open this page on the HTC One. Scrolling up and down is broken until all the ads show!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2012/03/15/words-with-friends-creators-say-infuriating-flaw-is-a-feature-not-a-bug/

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I can well understand many of your concerns. That said, I chose this particular point of yours to compare it with my experience. Very early on, I replaced two main defaults apps with others available on the play store. For email, I chose aquamail (much better than default and the equivalent on iOS) and Dolphin as my browser. Using Dolphin I went to that link on my One and I saw nothing of the sort in terms of scrolling being broken until the ads show. It was fast and smooth prior to all the ads loading.

My point is simply that I acknowledge default Android apps (whether manufacturer specific or generic Android) are often inferior to iOS equivalents. However, there are several cases (as I gave above) of apps on the play store that will give a superior experience to the equivalent on iOS.

Elit3
Jul 6, 2013, 02:36 PM
So I admit off the bat, I'm an Apple fan. Not a fanboy, but a fan indeed.

In terms of phones, I've owned the iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and currently I use an iPhone 5. I upgrade immediately, like a good Apple soldier should.

My neighbor yesterday asked me which phone he should buy. He has been using an iPhone 4 up till this point, and he told me he wants a larger screen, - larger than even the iPhone 5.

Given that the Galaxy S4 is not available yet, I recommended the HTC One, since by all accounts it's the best Android device actually out there in the wild.

He complied, and brought home the One today. I got to play with it tonight, and here are my thoughts...

1.) This is the very first Android device that truly rivals Apple in terms of design. While the back is just a tad busy for an Apple device, the build quality is absolutely fantastic. This is without doubt, the best-designed Android phone on the market.

2.) The screen is absolutely stunning. Yes, it's even more stunning than the iPhone 5 display. I opened up the New York Times full site, and text was even MORE readable on this display, even aside from the size difference between the two. I know people talk about Retina this and Retina that. Fact is, for me at least, I still want a sharper display, and when you put the HTC One next to the iPhone 5, what I've wanted in terms of PPI is right there, easily visible. It's truly stunning, and being NOT an AMOLED screen, it comes without all the deficiencies inherent in that tech (blue whites, lack of white brightness, over-saturated colors etc). The HTC One has 469 ppi, vs 326 ppi on the iPhone 4/4S/5. The difference, to me, is as obvious as a smack in the face. I love it. As far as I'm concerned, the HTC One has the true Retina display.

3.) The speakers raise the bar for what a phone can do. No more channeling sound to the front by cupping your hand around the bottom of the phone when watching movies/YouTube etc. The HTC One has the best speakers I've ever heard on a phone. Two speakers, front facing = game changer for the phone multimedia space.

4.) The ui responsiveness has vastly improved on these devices compared to the previous generation. I've had extensive playtime with my other neighbor's Galaxy Nexus, and the HTC One absolutely destroys the Galaxy Nexus in terms of response. Scrolling up and down web-pages is as close to Apple-like as it gets now, with almost imperceptible lag when doing so. Rotating the screen takes just milliseconds now. Everything is just so smooth.

Just a few cons from my time with the One:

5.) Apps-wise, no comparison. The iPhone has the HTC, and any Android device - soundly beaten.

6.) The One's power button is over on the top left vs top right on the iPhone 5. I grab my phone out of my left pocket with my left hand, so the power-button location is easily hit on the top right. iPhone wins that one.

So what's an Apple lover to do?

I'm torn. So, so torn. I absolutely love the HTC One. I really do. I'm also heavily invested in the Apple world, with numerous Macs, Apple accessories etc littered about my house and office.

But... my oh my is the HTC One a game-changer on the Android front. There is absolutely something to be said for the premium feel the One offers that the Galaxy S4 simply will never do (based on my plastic-y experience when toying with the S3).

Anyway, for those with no tether to Apple or Google, I highly, HIGHLY recommend spending some time with the HTC One. It's quite possibly the best phone on the market right now.

For the first time ever since handling many, many Android phones: Apple - the ball's in your court.

(Picture taken with my iPhone 5, of course!)

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Did you mean App store apps or stock apps, the HTC ONE stock apps, apart from camera, some amazing features, just the design of them I don't like, and for the Play Store apps, yeah, Google Play, has more apps now, but Apple still has an edge on quality, and cross-platform apps, Apple also has an edge (apart from some like Myfitnesspro, or all Google Apps).
THE POWER BUTTON (My father has a HTC ONE, coming from iPH5, and I have a Nexus 4), and the power button I get very annoyed, was the phone designed for lefties, or following old iPod Touch designs? I don't know. I believe the Nexus 4/most android phones placing of the power buttons (on right side, near the top of the phone), is perfect, it is where my thumb rests, especially on larger screens. Followed by the iPh placing, and then HTC ONE, plus it is, not clicky enough, it seems, hard to press. I like the phone, and you, my friend have hit the nail on its head.

WilliamG
Jul 6, 2013, 02:50 PM
I can well understand many of your concerns. That said, I chose this particular point of yours to compare it with my experience. Very early on, I replaced two main defaults apps with others available on the play store. For email, I chose aquamail (much better than default and the equivalent on iOS) and Dolphin as my browser. Using Dolphin I went to that link on my One and I saw nothing of the sort in terms of scrolling being broken until the ads show. It was fast and smooth prior to all the ads loading.

My point is simply that I acknowledge default Android apps (whether manufacturer specific or generic Android) are often inferior to iOS equivalents. However, there are several cases (as I gave above) of apps on the play store that will give a superior experience to the equivalent on iOS.

Absolutely. But there's a bit more to it than that, of course. I use Chrome as it integrates well with my Google experience, - synching my bookmarks etc etc. It's the same reason I use Safari on iOS over any other browser. Being able to see my desktop tabs is another bonus of Safari on iOS and Chrome on Android. I can indeed do that with Dolphin, but it means yet another extension to be installed..

Dolphin is a decent browser, of course. I've used it some on iOS and on Android. But when will it be updated to remove the menu button at the bottom of the screen, taking up space? When will basic web pages with YouTube videos work, like this?

http://kotaku.com/lets-watch-other-people-play-cube-world-681925086

That page I can't even get it to load videos on with Dolphin... Ideally I'd like the videos to open with YouTube and then when I'm done, it goes back to the browser. Maybe I'm just dumb and can't figure it out, but Dolphin opens all YouTube videos in the Dolphin app itself, and it doesn't seem to work all that well...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/06/video-claims-to-show-budget-iphone/

^ That video works perfectly on iOS Safari, and I can't make it work in Dolphin, as another example.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Did you mean App store apps or stock apps, the HTC ONE stock apps, apart from camera, some amazing features, just the design of them I don't like, and for the Play Store apps, yeah, Google Play, has more apps now, but Apple still has an edge on quality, and cross-platform apps, Apple also has an edge (apart from some like Myfitnesspro, or all Google Apps).
THE POWER BUTTON (My father has a HTC ONE, coming from iPH5, and I have a Nexus 4), and the power button I get very annoyed, was the phone designed for lefties, or following old iPod Touch designs? I don't know. I believe the Nexus 4/most android phones placing of the power buttons (on right side, near the top of the phone), is perfect, it is where my thumb rests, especially on larger screens. Followed by the iPh placing, and then HTC ONE, plus it is, not clicky enough, it seems, hard to press. I like the phone, and you, my friend have hit the nail on its head.

Thank you for the compliment! :)

I think you'll never please everyone with all phones, but it does appear (to someone like me who gets more and more frustrated with Apple as each day goes by) that iOS is VERY thoughtfully designed. Sure, up till now it has indeed been missing simple features like shortcuts to X and Y, and widgets etc etc. But what IS there, in terms of software AND hardware - is very smartly designed. The more I use the HTC One, the more I appreciate the mute switch on the side of my iPhone 5, for example.

I really can't wait for iOS 7 now. It's not all roses (the colors are a little in-your-face, for one thing). But I think it will make the experience a lot better, and a lot more Android-like, without the downsides of Android. :)

tomateto
Aug 7, 2013, 12:25 AM
I guess its just a matter of preferrence. Good thing I haven't invested much on apple products and I can move to any platform whenever I want. I love the iOS smoothness and other stuff but I also like the openess of android. There was no really good phone with superb quality before the HTC one (I hope more awesome build quality from here on) that's why when the HTC one came out I gotta have it. It's amazing that there are features of this phone that I was not aware of. probably because I was very much closed minded and loved iOS since day 1.

What I love about my HTC one.
-the IR blaster, I can control any TV or player from the One.
-I love the OTG functionality (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoi0ngOU4SE) where in you can any insert flash disk, mouse, keyboards etc. (duh! why do you need to use a keyboard or mouse on your phone lol, I know but I love it specially when I mirror the screen to my HDTV)
-Screen mirroring wired and wirelessly - We have airplay on the iOs but that means I also need to have an AppleTV which sucks because I already have sony bravia.
-Blinkfeed, easy access to your social and news feeds.
-Widgets!!
-Boomsound
-Screen ppi

And all others.

I know Apple will release some goodies soon and I might return to iOS but right now I'm glad I discovered the ONE and still enjoying it.

Marcellus
Sep 6, 2013, 11:34 AM
I have been using the iPhone 4s since it was released and I love IOS. I have been eligible for an upgrade with Verizon since last summer, but when the iPhone 5 was released, I was not all that impressed with it. Sure it had 4G and other upgrades but the screen size was a deal-breaker for me - 1/2 inch longer did not cut it. So I passed on the 5. Now it appears that Apple is about to release either an iPhone 5s or 6, and I am waiting to hear what the specs will be for those models. Above all, I want a larger screen, 4.3 in. at least, but I doubt we will see that until the spring of 2014. My 16 GB memory is filling up so I will probably need to upgrade to 32 GB.
After playing with the HTC One at a Verizon store, I was very impressed with its build quality, speed, sound, design and storage capacity. The One gives you 32 GB of internal memory and 2 GB RAM for $199.99. This is a huge selling point for me because Apple charges another $100 for the 32 GB model and you still only get 1 GB RAM, i.e. $299.99. If the iPhone 5s or 6 does not have a larger screen and charges $100 more for 32 GB, why not opt for the HTC One where I will clearly get more bag for the buck? Since I have not owned an Android device (I have an iPad), the HTC will give me the opportunity to use one for a couple of years. I can always switch back later. These are my thoughts at present.