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MacRumors
Apr 25, 2013, 03:10 PM
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http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/02/leapmotionhand.jpgThe public release of the Leap Motion controller has been delayed until July because the company feels it needs a longer beta test, reports TechCrunch (http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/25/leap-motion-controller-ship-date-delayed-until-july-22-due-to-a-need-for-a-larger-longer-beta-test/). Best Buy has sent notifications to customers who preordered the device, and Leap today said the device will ship July 22th.

Leap Motion's controller is a touch-free device (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/17/former-iad-chief-andy-miller-joins-3d-motion-control-company-leap-motion/) that allows users to control their computers via hand gestures in three dimensions. It works in conjunction with the Leap Motion software, and development units have been sent to 10,000 developers around the world.
Leap Motion says it wants to make sure that the product they deliver is the best they can offer, and says that there is "nothing catastrophically wrong" with the hardware as of yet. The company believes that it could have shipped by the original date if it had really pushed things, but wanted to make sure that things were ready for prime time. The new July 22 ship date is firmly set, according to [Leap Motion CEO Michael] Buckwald, and this is "the first and only delay there will be."The Leap Motion controller is currently available for pre-order (https://www.leapmotion.com/preorder/new) from the website for $79.99. At the moment, however, the Leap Motion website still says it will ship on May 13th.

Article Link: Leap Motion Controller Delayed Until July for Longer Beta Test (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/25/leap-motion-controller-delayed-until-july-for-longer-beta-test/)



cerote
Apr 25, 2013, 03:16 PM
Very sucky. It was only a couple weeks away and I was getting excited for it.

irfaanfaki
Apr 25, 2013, 03:18 PM
Ah- I was hoping to hear that apple took over the tech, then we'd see it in the new "iTV"

4ubrey
Apr 25, 2013, 03:19 PM
This is why big VCs avoid hardware startups. They're wrought with delays and issues that hurt the potential customers more than software delays.

macalec
Apr 25, 2013, 03:23 PM
Interesting. Maybe apple should look into buying them out. However I bet they already have experimented with this technology.

ChristianJapan
Apr 25, 2013, 03:42 PM
It a nice idea ; really hope they make it to market ...:D I want one

DepModeFan
Apr 25, 2013, 03:49 PM
22th?

komodrone
Apr 25, 2013, 03:50 PM
Controller may *LEAP* into July release.

I'll let myself out.

MacRumorUser
Apr 25, 2013, 03:58 PM
Oh for pity's sake, I pre-ordered this at the end of June last year. 13 months is unbelievable ...... Hope they throw in some decent goodies for those of us that pre-ordered so far back.

bigcat318
Apr 25, 2013, 04:02 PM
I only want it for playing SimCity anyway.

s!ke
Apr 25, 2013, 04:11 PM
Oh for pity's sake, I pre-ordered this at the end of June last year. 13 months is unbelievable ...... Hope they throw in some decent goodies for those of us that pre-ordered so far back.

Ugh, I know right. It was so close, I was getting super excited. :( lame

needfx
Apr 25, 2013, 04:11 PM
I'm so buying this

edit1
if a piece of software should be added in their so called "airspace", that's zbrush (http://pixologic.com).

edit 2
browsing ponr on this is going to be an issue

s!ke
Apr 25, 2013, 04:15 PM
Btw, question....

Is this going to function just like a USB mouse / input?

Will it work with our OS globally at launch and will all my native apps? What about third party apps like photoshop? Or do I need to wait until all third party companies like Adobe to support it in programs like photoshop?

MacRumorUser
Apr 25, 2013, 04:24 PM
And the email lands... :(

I wanted to reach out to update you on the status of our ship date. After a lot of consideration, we’ve decided to push back the date and will now be shipping units to pre-order customers on July 22nd.

This is not a decision we take lightly. There are hundreds of thousands of people in over 150 countries who have pre-ordered Leap Motion controllers, some as long as a year ago. These people are part of our community and there is nothing more important to us than getting them devices as quickly as possible.

We’ve made a lot of progress. When we first started taking orders back in May we were twelve (very tired) people in a basement. Now we are eighty (although still tired and possibly still in a basement). We’ve manufactured over six hundred thousand devices and delivered twelve thousand to amazing developers who are building applications that let people do things that just wouldn’t have been possible before.

These developers have given us great feedback that we’ve used to make huge improvements to the stability and polish of the product. We’re really proud of Leap Motion as both a company and a product.

The reality is we very likely could have hit the original ship date. But it wouldn’t have left time for comprehensive testing. This will come in the form of a beta test that will start in June. We will give the 12k developers who currently have Leap Motion controllers access to the feature complete product including OS interaction (today developers only have access to the SDK). We will also invite some people who are not developers to join the beta test.

Ultimately, the only way we felt 100% confident we could deliver a truly magical product that would do justice to this new form of interaction, was to push the date so we would have more time for a larger, more diverse beta test.

I really appreciate your patience. I know it’s been a long wait. Everyone at Leap Motion is working tirelessly to make sure that the wait is worth it. Thanks so much for your help and support.

David and I will be participating in an open video Q&A using Google Hangout tomorrow at 11:30am Pacific time. To join our hangout, please visit our Google+ page. If you have any questions please don’t hesitate to contact our support team at support@leapmotion.com or my personal email (buckwald@leapmotion.com). As always, we will not charge pre-order customer’s credit cards until the devices have actually shipped.

Thanks again.

Michael Buckwald

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Btw, question....

Is this going to function just like a USB mouse / input?

Will it work with our OS globally at launch and will all my native apps? What about third party apps like photoshop? Or do I need to wait until all third party companies like Adobe to support it in programs like photoshop?

You should be able to let it function like a mouse on most basic level, but obviously the more time developers integrate it into apps the more things it'll be able to do.

Bing able to grab an image in photoshop and pinch the air to zoom or control / move it around etc.

jellyw00t
Apr 25, 2013, 04:24 PM
This is definitely not the first delay of the leap. When I preordered it towards the end of last year I was told it would ship in either December or early January. Then it was pushed back to the May date, and now July... Its getting to the point where I feel like its never coming. My initial excitement about the whole thing is long gone

nsimpson94
Apr 25, 2013, 04:51 PM
I can wait.

Exotic-Car Man
Apr 25, 2013, 05:00 PM
I'm waiting for the wireless second generation anyway. Hopefully that'll be out before 2015.

22th?

Too many people are screwing this up nowadays. It's not that hard: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.

Lancer
Apr 25, 2013, 05:21 PM
It would be fantastic if Apple could license this tech to go in future iMac's and their laptops. It would give a wow factor missing from some of it's products even if most users didn't use it every day.

Dr McKay
Apr 25, 2013, 05:24 PM
It would be fantastic if Apple could license this tech to go in future iMac's and their laptops. It would give a wow factor missing from some of it's products even if most users didn't use it every day.

HP are going to start building it into their laptops, I hope it works well in Windows 8.

ConCat
Apr 25, 2013, 05:52 PM
I'm waiting for the wireless second generation anyway. Hopefully that'll be out before 2015.



Too many people are screwing this up nowadays. It's not that hard: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.

Well, it isn't as black and white as that. It's true that most of the pattern is simple, but consider this: 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th 15th 16th etc... I imagine it can be confusing for people new to it, but then again with education as it is today, a lot of those people are native speakers.

To be quite honest, the lower 10s are a complete disaster.

ijohn.8.80
Apr 25, 2013, 06:35 PM
As someone who knows zero about this tech. Is this the same as what's incorporated in the S4? :confused:

MacRumorUser
Apr 25, 2013, 07:16 PM
As someone who knows zero about this tech. Is this the same as what's incorporated in the S4? :confused:

No. This is VASTLY more accurate.

The S4 uses its camera and sensors but by all reports it s hit and miss most of the time.

The leap motion can detect depth and also 10 individual points (fingers).

Rychy
Apr 25, 2013, 08:30 PM
Oh for pity's sake, I pre-ordered this at the end of June last year. 13 months is unbelievable ...... Hope they throw in some decent goodies for those of us that pre-ordered so far back.

I hope so too. I pre-ordered right after they showed that video last year ... it's been quite the wait.

Lancer
Apr 25, 2013, 09:07 PM
HP are going to start building it into their laptops, I hope it works well in Windows 8.

Yeah I saw that.

Maybe Apple is waiting for the tech to mature :D

ijohn.8.80
Apr 25, 2013, 09:09 PM
No. This is VASTLY more accurate.

The S4 uses its camera and sensors but by all reports it s hit and miss most of the time.

The leap motion can detect depth and also 10 individual points (fingers).

Thanks for that.

elgrecomac
Apr 25, 2013, 11:52 PM
Interesting. Maybe apple should look into buying them out. However I bet they already have experimented with this technology.

Actually they were at one point talking with microsoft about licensing Kinect.

cerote
Apr 26, 2013, 12:38 AM
You should be able to let it function like a mouse on most basic level, but obviously the more time developers integrate it into apps the more things it'll be able to do.

Bing able to grab an image in photoshop and pinch the air to zoom or control / move it around etc.

BetterTouchTools as already started adding support for LeapMotion. So that will add even more usability within the OS and with other Apps.

tatonka
Apr 26, 2013, 02:37 AM
This is definitely not the first delay of the leap. When I preordered it towards the end of last year I was told it would ship in either December or early January. Then it was pushed back to the May date, and now July... Its getting to the point where I feel like its never coming. My initial excitement about the whole thing is long gone

I canceled my initial pre-order from summer last year a while ago .. I lost excitement a while back and I am close to loosing interest all together.

T.

illitrate23
Apr 26, 2013, 02:59 AM
is it really about more beta testing?
or is it because HP's engineers are getting priority access and jumping the queue in front of those who pre-ordered? :mad:

ZipZap
Apr 26, 2013, 05:45 AM
This is definitely not the first delay of the leap. When I preordered it towards the end of last year I was told it would ship in either December or early January. Then it was pushed back to the May date, and now July... Its getting to the point where I feel like its never coming. My initial excitement about the whole thing is long gone

Its only the second delay. But Yes, they should have a better handle on development.

The delays are probably good as I suspect the early units really sucked.

juannacho
Apr 26, 2013, 08:49 AM
Its only the second delay. But Yes, they should have a better handle on development.

The delays are probably good as I suspect the early units really sucked.

We're on the Leap dev program and have been playing around with an early device for a few months now.

All I'd say is that it's remarkably accurate and that weird feeling of it being 'magic' in some way is quite uncanny! There's definitely no need for any upgrade to the hardware as far as I can see.

We threw in Leap support for an HTML5 test-game (http://www.flashvhtml.com/leap/) we made and not only was it ridiculously easy to implement, but it actually makes the game more fun.

I definitely don't think it's as gimmicky as the Kinect and can imagine some amazingly creative applications both for entertainment and certain workflows.

The delay is a pain, but I'd certainly stick with it, the thing's rad!

utekineir
Apr 26, 2013, 10:48 AM
edit 2
browsing ponr on this is going to be an issue


Use your junk as the cursor.

This could be tons of fun.

InfoTime
Apr 26, 2013, 08:06 PM
Hadn't heard about this (that I recall) until seeing this story on the sidebar. After looking at it and thinking about it a bit I went ahead and pre-ordered. July isn't that far away, but I haven't been waiting like many others.

While us early adopters are important we're not really the bulk of their potential profit. When they've got these things in Best Buy and Target and everyone has heard about them and buying them as Christmas gifts, that's when the company will succeed. If they botch the launch then even if they're in the big box stores no one will care because they'll have been told that the product sucks.

Besides, it's only a matter of time before these things become ubiquitous.

DesterWallaboo
Apr 26, 2013, 11:19 PM
Why would I want to be waving my hands around in front of my computer?

cerote
Apr 27, 2013, 12:07 AM
Why would I want to be waving my hands around in front of my computer?

It's not just about waving your hands around it is about how you can control the app with your hands. Some apps would feel more natural moving it with hands.

I would like to see a Eve Online integration.

ppdix
Apr 28, 2013, 01:20 AM
This is a great and interesting concept. I hope it works the way shown on the video.
Now, how long can you hold your arm up in the air before it gets tired?
I think this will be a great presentation and show-off tool but to replace a mouse? Hmmm. We'll have to wait another 3 months...

utekineir
Apr 28, 2013, 08:09 AM
Why would I want to be waving my hands around in front of my computer?

The use i was looking forward to it was in the garage. I take my laptop down to feed an lcd tv on the wall (sling box/netflix/itunes).

Having the computer in the garage is fantastic for pulling up shop manuals, diy instructions/videos etc while tinkering. Or just to kill time.

But dirty hands and clean laptop is a no go, having a garage keyboard and mouse is an option, but then at times you'll end up with clean hands on a dirty device. Absolute first world problem, but whatever, i'm sitting on a bunch of bb rewards and theres nothing really there to spend them on.

I had planned on picking up one of these from bb, give it a try to see if it can suit quick casual use without having to physically touch anything. If it can a pocket will be cut into the workbench infront of where my laptop sits for the unit to be permanently seated.

Plus more importantly i could be a dink and show it off.

As it stands looks like it will be released after my rewards expires.

ThunderSkunk
Apr 28, 2013, 04:59 PM
I once spent two years developing a machined product when I was young, and to reach a target ship date we'd set for ourselves, rushed everything the last 2 weeks and skimped a bit on some refinements we would rather have made. What did people get when they unboxed & installed them? Not products that were the culmination of 2 years of intense design & mfg work. They got a rushed product that felt and worked like one. Handling thousands of complaints and returns destroyed our finances, our reputation, and our will.


A little delay and a few grumbly customers is a small inconvenience compared to issuing thousands of potentially less-than-satisfactory products and dealing with the fallout on an individual basis.

Wise decision. Make sure you're comfortable that it's the best it can possibly be at the time you ship, or don't ship.

Squilly
Apr 28, 2013, 06:45 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised as to far Leap Motion has come. They're starting a whole new era of technology, beyond this one product.

iSayuSay
Apr 28, 2013, 06:54 PM
Looking from the demo so far, I can see it works excellently. No lag, no heavy processing necessary for the input itself. Almost like iPad touch input, only we don't touch the display. Smudge free!
I can see Apple could just buy the company. Give them time.

Those people on LEAP going to be rich if it's succeed. And they earn it, I think.

Petr Fodor
Jul 29, 2013, 08:24 AM
Hey guys, we have published our game Sortee (http://www.sorteegame.com) for Leap Motion in recent days. So far the puzzle game has great reviews in Airspace (https://airspace.leapmotion.com/apps/sortee/) and I would like to know also your opinion.

Here is the HD trailer which shows how simple is playing Sortee with Leap: http://youtu.be/dbcEk_8qCz8

Don't hesitate to send us feedback to petr.fodor@flowstudiogames.com or send us a tweet to @Flow_Studio. Thanks.

SAIRUS
Jul 29, 2013, 10:44 AM
http://patriciablount.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/back-to-formula.jpg
Back to formula?

Petr Fodor
Aug 5, 2013, 07:45 AM
I see there are lot of Leap fans. I am the developer who created two Leap Motion apps Sortee and Midnight. We at Flow want to create more amazing application for the controller. I would like to ask you a few questions on your expectations about this device, such as what type of apps you are currently missing etc. Would you mind filling a short questionnaire? Thanks a lot in advance!

LINK TO THE SURVEY: http://bit.ly/Leap_Survey