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PollyK
Apr 28, 2013, 08:25 PM
So this shootout has only confirmed what I believed about the new display in the GS4. Is one heck of a display. Incredible color accuracy. Interesting that auto brightness increases the screens brightness beyond what is possible from manual setting it. So basically in bright sunlight, set it to auto. I've never use auto, so I'll have to look into this when I get my S4.

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm



Dr McKay
Apr 29, 2013, 11:57 AM
Is it just me or since the S4 release drew near we suddenly have lots of new accounts popping up that just praise the S4 and link to another site?

GoCubsGo
Apr 29, 2013, 12:03 PM
Is it just me or since the S4 release drew near we suddenly have lots of new accounts popping up that just praise the S4 and link to another site?

It is not just you.

MacRumorUser
Apr 29, 2013, 12:17 PM
Yeah a slew of newbies on an apple-centric site posting in a rather obscure sub-forum is always a little suspicious.

Apollo 13
Apr 29, 2013, 12:43 PM
samsung is paying him/her good money to promote.

johnjefferson
Apr 29, 2013, 12:51 PM
So this shootout has only confirmed what I believed about the new display in the GS4. Is one heck of a display. Incredible color accuracy. Interesting that auto brightness increases the screens brightness beyond what is possible from manual setting it. So basically in bright sunlight, set it to auto. I've never use auto, so I'll have to look into this when I get my S4.

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm

If you look at the breakdown, the iPhone 5 is actually the better display :) The only part it loses out to the S4 is at the 30 degree viewing angle. The iphone either pretty much matches or exceeds the S4 in everything else.

cynics
Apr 29, 2013, 02:53 PM
samsung is paying him/her good money to promote.

And let me guess Apple wasn't paying them good money when they compared the S3 to iPhone? Or does this argument only apply to suit your agenda? :rolleyes:

daveathall
Apr 29, 2013, 03:42 PM
If you look at the breakdown, the iPhone 5 is actually the better display :) The only part it loses out to the S4 is at the 30 degree viewing angle. The iphone either pretty much matches or exceeds the S4 in everything else.

You seem to have a different opinion to the author of the test.

Quote;

The iPhone 5 is significantly brighter than the Galaxy S4, particularly for screens with mostly peak white backgrounds. Its color calibration is a bit better, although the Galaxy S4 has a more accurate White. The Galaxy S4 has a much bigger screen, higher resolution, higher PPI, much darker blacks, and better screen uniformity than the iPhone 5. They each have their own particular strengths and weaknesses, but if you scan our color coordinated Comparison Table below, both displays are quite good and comparable overall – so it’s currently a tie – we’ll see how they both evolve and improve in the next generation…

Apollo 13
Apr 29, 2013, 03:59 PM
And let me guess Apple wasn't paying them good money when they compared the S3 to iPhone? Or does this argument only apply to suit your agenda? :rolleyes:

I have no agenda since I don't side with one side.

johnjefferson
Apr 29, 2013, 06:34 PM
You seem to have a different opinion to the author of the test.

Quote;

The iPhone 5 is significantly brighter than the Galaxy S4, particularly for screens with mostly peak white backgrounds. Its color calibration is a bit better, although the Galaxy S4 has a more accurate White. The Galaxy S4 has a much bigger screen, higher resolution, higher PPI, much darker blacks, and better screen uniformity than the iPhone 5. They each have their own particular strengths and weaknesses, but if you scan our color coordinated Comparison Table below, both displays are quite good and comparable overall – so it’s currently a tie – we’ll see how they both evolve and improve in the next generation…

Yea, the iPhone 5 is also 8 months old. I am sure Apple will up their screen quality very soon :)

Zwhaler
Apr 30, 2013, 12:00 AM
Why are most of these replies skeptical about the original poster? The review wasn't biased, it had good information and I haven't seen another post about this topic.

MacRumorUser
Apr 30, 2013, 12:20 AM
Why are most of these replies skeptical about the original poster? The review wasn't biased, it had good information and I haven't seen another post about this topic.

OP only ever seems to have made posts about the GS4 or how its better than its competitors.

Very strange for someone in a Mac-centric website.

Zwhaler
Apr 30, 2013, 01:24 AM
OP only ever seems to have made posts about the GS4 or how its better than its competitors.

Very strange for someone in a Mac-centric website.

You're right about that, but having seen the GS4 in person he is right about the screen, and the article was good.

mib1800
Apr 30, 2013, 02:02 AM
If you look at the breakdown, the iPhone 5 is actually the better display :) The only part it loses out to the S4 is at the 30 degree viewing angle. The iphone either pretty much matches or exceeds the S4 in everything else.

And this point is very crucial. Since we hold the phone using one hand our eyes are always looking at the screen at an angle. So you are more likely to get the brightness and color loss (plus the white "mist" due to backlight reflection) on the ip5. This can destroy the viewing quality on the iphone. Also, the contrast ratio gives the S4 a more stunning and vivid picture/screen. Lastly the most important factor is the much larger screen of the S4. These 3 factors alone are enough to make S4 screen much better in my book since these factors affect daily use (unlike a brighter screen which only matters when using outdoor, color accuracy is also not that important since most of the time we are not looking at photo but icons/images/gif/text etc)

daneoni
Apr 30, 2013, 04:07 AM
So how much did Samsung pay you?

daveathall
Apr 30, 2013, 04:22 AM
Yea, the iPhone 5 is also 8 months old. I am sure Apple will up their screen quality very soon :)

You think that the iPhone 5S will have an upgraded screen?

Krimsonmyst
Apr 30, 2013, 05:19 AM
You think that the iPhone 5S will have an upgraded screen?

How much more can they upgrade it? Assuming they're not changing the screen size, I don't see why they'd just up the resolution for the sake of it, and the LCD panel is already as good as it is going to get, imo anyway.

daveathall
Apr 30, 2013, 06:50 AM
How much more can they upgrade it? Assuming they're not changing the screen size, I don't see why they'd just up the resolution for the sake of it, and the LCD panel is already as good as it is going to get, imo anyway.

I was responding to johnjefferson's post, he seems to think that Apple will be updating their screen sometime soon, perhaps your question would be better answered by him. :)

TBH, I agree with you, to my eyes (old) there isn't much more that they can do with that size screen. I don't think that the 5S will get a larger screen, john will be along shortly, I'm sure to give us his take on it.:)

watchthisspace
Apr 30, 2013, 07:06 AM
Interesting. I didn't know the iPhone 5's screen was as good as it is. When I've compared it to my 4, I couldn't tell a difference.

Still, good to see display tech pushing on and Samsung is still pushing the envelope in more areas than just features, cpu and camera.

mattopotamus
Apr 30, 2013, 07:07 AM
Interesting. I didn't know the iPhone 5's screen was as good as it is. When I've compared it to my 4, I couldn't tell a difference.

Still, good to see display tech pushing on and Samsung is still pushing the envelope in more areas than just features, cpu and camera.

ehh....there is a big difference in the saturation between the 4/4S and the 5. The colors have way more pop.

sk1wbw
Apr 30, 2013, 08:35 AM
samsung is paying him/her good money to promote.

What are you talking about? Samsung has never ever done this, paid others to post negative things about the competition and promote its own products.

Assault
Apr 30, 2013, 08:56 AM
The following images show the difference between the S4, iPhone5 and HTC One. The images are in that order as well. When you look at the screens, it is very apparent that the One has the best display, the S4 is a close second and the iPhone5 looks like it belongs in a 1980's Atari game.

jrswizzle
Apr 30, 2013, 09:03 AM
I can't speak from experience about the GS4 - though I've read great things about the display that say SAMOLED is finally catching up to IPS LCDs in terms of color reproduction accuracy.

I will say though, as an owner of both the iPhone 5 and the HTC One - the increased PPI of the One does little to enhance the display quality. While it is somewhat noticeable, it is by no means a huge difference. I would say its less of a difference than pre-retina iPads to retina iPads and many people couldn't tell the difference there (and I think they're insane....).

Anyways, as far as display quality goes, I think the market is plateauing. Displays can get more color accurate (though the iPhone 5, HTC One and GS4 are all pretty close to max) and more power efficient, but I think it's safe to say, simply increasing the PPI from here on out will be just another marketing ploy to make one's phone seem better than the others' when the reality is no added benefit to the end user.

EDIT: As for Assault's pictures above me, I'd venture a guess to say most (if not all) won't be zooming in to see every individual pixel - ever.

daveathall
Apr 30, 2013, 09:22 AM
Display quality for my old eyes is not actually that important, reading from a normal distance I would not be able to see pixels no matter what phone is in front of me. :)

tjl3
Apr 30, 2013, 10:06 AM
The following images show the difference between the S4, iPhone5 and HTC One. The images are in that order as well. When you look at the screens, it is very apparent that the One has the best display, the S4 is a close second and the iPhone5 looks like it belongs in a 1980's Atari game.

Don't understand this comparison at all. Even if you held your phone against your eye your wouldn't see pixels at this level.

Display quality for my old eyes is not actually that important, reading from a normal distance I would not be able to see pixels no matter what phone is in front of me. :)

Ya it's actually the opposite, where display quality/pixel density gets more distinguished by people w/ exquisite eye sight (not me either =D)

MacRumorUser
Apr 30, 2013, 10:07 AM
Display quality for my old eyes is not actually that important, reading from a normal distance I would not be able to see pixels no matter what phone is in front of me. :)

but can you see this pixel ?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Black_square.jpg

;)

daveathall
Apr 30, 2013, 10:42 AM
but can you see this pixel ?

Image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Black_square.jpg)

;)

What does it say above that black box? :D

paulsalter
Apr 30, 2013, 10:45 AM
but can you see this pixel ?

Image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Black_square.jpg)

;)

I have just spent 5 minutes looking for a white dot inside the black square :o

MacRumorUser
Apr 30, 2013, 10:57 AM
What does it say above that black box? :D
I have just spent 5 minutes looking for a white dot inside the black square :o

LMFAO!! That made me chuckle :D

Assault
Apr 30, 2013, 01:15 PM
Don't understand this comparison at all. Even if you held your phone against your eye your wouldn't see pixels at this level.



Ya it's actually the opposite, where display quality/pixel density gets more distinguished by people w/ exquisite eye sight (not me either =D)

It isnt about "seeing" the pixels. The more pixels, the sharper text and image quality, including color reproduction, can become. To the point where onscreen displays and paper print will become indistinguishable. And you don't need perfect vision to see the differences.

jrswizzle
Apr 30, 2013, 01:26 PM
It isnt about "seeing" the pixels. The more pixels, the sharper text and image quality, including color reproduction, can become. To the point where onscreen displays and paper print will become indistinguishable. And you don't need perfect vision to see the differences.

I believe I'm still on your ignore list - but I don't think anyone will need to zoom into such a level that they could distinguish pixels.

At normal zoom/reading level, pixels aren't discernible on the iPhone 5.

Having both the One and the iP5 (and being a display stickler), there really isn't much difference. I had to stare at both side-by-side to really tell.