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johnjefferson
Apr 30, 2013, 12:37 AM
I see so many people obsessing over looks and what kind of materials are used in a phones build and I don't get it. The vast majority of people then take their phones and put them in a $20 case from a mall kiosk. You don't sit there staring at your naked phone, ok, maybe some do but most don't. S who cares what it's made out of or the lines in the design?



sentinelsx
Apr 30, 2013, 12:48 AM
Someone is bored.....

MacRumorUser
Apr 30, 2013, 12:58 AM
Given a choice, do you date an attractive partner or make do with a pig ugly one because they wear fancy clothes.

At some point the clothes come off.


;)



Joking asside, its subjective and comes down to same personal preferences that govern food, clothes, perfume/aftershave, hair cut etc... Subjective opinions and personal preferences.

Fernandez21
Apr 30, 2013, 01:07 AM
I never use cases, except for the iPhone 4/4s (because of the antenna issue and the glass back). So the feel of the devise is important since it's probably the devise I use the most.

Also, while I prefer metal (always have since the razr) I have no problem with plastic.

EmaDaCuz
Apr 30, 2013, 01:09 AM
To me, design means ergonomy.
For example, I don't like the curved profile of some Xperia phones, but I ended up getting an Xperia T because it fits perfectly in my hand thanks to its design.
Build is also critical. I remember having some nice looking and potentially awesome mobiles that were crippled by poor keys and disgraceful cheap plastic body.

adder7712
Apr 30, 2013, 01:32 AM
I don't mind.

Obscurelight
Apr 30, 2013, 02:18 AM
I am actually guilty of being one of those form over function guys and will use phones naked and risk dings and scratches just to please my eyes. Aesthetics is a big thing for me which keeps me away from phones such as the nexus or galaxy series. It all comes down to personal preference I guess.

mib1800
Apr 30, 2013, 03:16 AM
All smartphone looks like a slab with the screen taking up the whole front (not like old days where we have candybar, slider or flip). So there is so little to distinguish one phone from another.

So I dont care about design. Function is more important.

Tsuchiya
Apr 30, 2013, 03:25 AM
For me it's part of the user experience. How the device looks and feels in your hand is important because it's the first thing you notice when you pick it up in the morning.

Nowadays where there really doesn't need to be a compromise in form and function it's hard to see why people wouldn't put an emphasis on build. Especially when these devices are so expensive to begin with.

maflynn
Apr 30, 2013, 05:35 AM
I see so many people obsessing over looks and what kind of materials are used in a phones build and I don't get it

The same reasons why people obsess over the looks of cars, or other electronic devices - Its important to them.

I can see why people use cases because the phone is used everyday and you want to protect if from wear and tear, i.e., scratches and scuffs.

johnjefferson
Apr 30, 2013, 07:20 AM
The same reasons why people obsess over the looks of cars, or other electronic devices - Its important to them.

I can see why people use cases because the phone is used everyday and you want to protect if from wear and tear, i.e., scratches and scuffs.

Right, but you don't buy a Ferrari and then cover it up with an ugly, cheap plastic body kit to avoid it getting scuffed up. That's pretty much what people do with their phones though.

maflynn
Apr 30, 2013, 07:23 AM
Right, but you don't buy a Ferrari and then cover it up with an ugly, cheap plastic body kit to avoid it getting scuffed up. That's pretty much what people do with their phones though.

Well I do see sports cars being covered in the driveway, bumper guards for those cars in the city I live and of course those car bras to protect the front end. Maybe not a lot but enough to say that people do what it takes to protect their cars.

If you're spending a lot of money on a phone, I understand why people buy cases to protect the fit and finish. Many people do the same thing with their laptops as well.

Just because you see little value in doing this, means others do. I spent a lot of money on my phone and to be honest, I want it to be in pristine condition and the case does just that. I'd rather have a cheap 20 dollar case getting scuffed up then my phone. For one thing it helps my resale

mattopotamus
Apr 30, 2013, 07:31 AM
I see so many people obsessing over looks and what kind of materials are used in a phones build and I don't get it. The vast majority of people then take their phones and put them in a $20 case from a mall kiosk. You don't sit there staring at your naked phone, ok, maybe some do but most don't. S who cares what it's made out of or the lines in the design?

I never use a case, so I care :)

cynics
Apr 30, 2013, 07:35 AM
Some people just prefer what the perceive as high quality when held in the hand.

Why get a $5000+ watch when you can get a 80 dollar watch that does more? Just what people prefer and since its their money I don't think there is a problem with that at all.

I prefer function over form but better yet both. :)

chagla
Apr 30, 2013, 07:44 AM
function over form. thats why no htc one for me. i NEED expandable storage. thinness and losing a few grams doesn't add any value/utility for me.

Prototypical
Apr 30, 2013, 07:50 AM
Right, but you don't buy a Ferrari and then cover it up with an ugly, cheap plastic body kit to avoid it getting scuffed up. That's pretty much what people do with their phones though.

The people who REALLY care about the style and form of their phones really don't though. Most people who immediately slap a case on the phone either don't care (and just bought they phone because they liked it) or have lives/children that could potentially damage the device. I see plenty of iPhone5s and HTC Ones that are naked on a regular basis.

I'm one of "those people" who cares about design, and my 4S is naked 95% of the time. I think the majority of hardcore Apple design fans are the same way.

sk1wbw
Apr 30, 2013, 07:52 AM
Would you rather buy a Lenovo ThinkPad or a Dell Inspiron laptop? One is solid and the other one feels like a flimsy piece of ****.

Steve at Jobs
Apr 30, 2013, 09:19 AM
Because when you spend over 650 on high-end phone you want it from best materials.

snowcrash
Apr 30, 2013, 10:35 AM
I agree with the OP on this one. Most phones I see have cases on them so it really doesn't matter if it's metal, plastic or some buzz word to describe the "build" of the phone. I don't understand the analogy of a car or a watch because you don't cover them up when in use. Yes you can cover a car with a car cover when not driving it but once in use there is no cover, you can put your watch in a case to protect it while not wearing it but once on your wrist you don't have a rubber bumper on it. As far as I know (and from my own exp) I have a slim case on my iPhone and never take it out of the case. So honestly I don't even care what the back looks like. It could be made out of puke green pixy dust for all I care.

Now for the people who run their phones naked I can totally understand they go for the look, feel and build "quality" of their phones. But for me personally it's the probably the last thing on my check-list when getting a phone. Usually it's something like "wow this phone looks nice, too bad I have to slap a case on it to protect it and hide how awesome it really looks". Honestly I'd rather have a plastic S4 type of body so I don't need to have a case (since I'm a brute when it comes to protecting my phones and would destroy an iPhone without a case).

I do appreciate design and look but I'm more a function over form kind of guy when it comes to a phone. Laptops, cars, watches, clothes and other toys I am sometimes more function over form, but since I am always covering up the phones anyway, I go for function first.

LSUtigers03
Apr 30, 2013, 10:39 AM
I'm probably in the minority but I like holding the S3 and Note 2 more than the iPhone 5. With the S3 and Note 2 I loved using them without a case but I can't stand using the iPhone 5 without a case. To each is own but I do chuckle a bit when people talk about build quality and how much Samsung sucks then their next post is about the 10th case they bought for their iPhone.

sentinelsx
Apr 30, 2013, 11:04 AM
Design and build are more like a bonus to me.

I want speed/smoothness, battery life, great screen, and camera, as my top choices when searching for a phone.

Also as little bloat as possible. I never cared about OEM "enhancements" ever since i have been purchasing windows PCs. First thing i do is strip the OEM copy and load my own windows lol.

Sadly, loading stock android on OEM skinned devices isn't as easy as loading plain windows on any desktop. The trade-offs are always a hindrance.

danakin
Apr 30, 2013, 11:41 AM
I've always put a case on my phones so, while design and build quality; as subjective as the last item may be, are important, they take a back-seat to the usability of the device according to my needs.

Your device needs are likely different than mine so it's sad that we can, and usually do, get into endless and, frankly asinine, debates about elusive criteria that make up "build quality". At the end of the day, these devices serve a purpose; they are communication and media consumption tools. Sadly, for some they are also a means to self validation - filling a void in their life.

Don't get me wrong, I like quality made goods and I have a very active nerd gene; that's why I visit sites like these. I am, however, thankful that my self esteem isn't indexed to a device that buzzes in my pocket!

Stuntman06
Apr 30, 2013, 03:43 PM
Given a choice, do you date an attractive partner or make do with a pig ugly one because they wear fancy clothes.

At some point the clothes come off.


;)

At what point does the case come off a phone? Most people who put cases on leave them on all the time. If they do take it off, it would be to put another case on and not use the phone naked.

Joking asside, its subjective and comes down to same personal preferences that govern food, clothes, perfume/aftershave, hair cut etc... Subjective opinions and personal preferences.

It is subjective. It's something that I find is part of the user experience initially. However, after using the phone for a while, I find that how it looks externally becomes less and less important. What is important is for the phone to do what I need it to do as a phone rather than how the phone physically looks and feels.

Mrg02d
Apr 30, 2013, 05:46 PM
Given a choice, do you date an attractive partner or make do with a pig ugly one because they wear fancy clothes.

At some point the clothes come off.


;)



Joking asside, its subjective and comes down to same personal preferences that govern food, clothes, perfume/aftershave, hair cut etc... Subjective opinions and personal preferences.

Applauds...

mib1800
Apr 30, 2013, 06:53 PM
Would you rather buy a Lenovo ThinkPad or a Dell Inspiron laptop? One is solid and the other one feels like a flimsy piece of ****.

you should qualify this with. .. if both have have the same specs and capability.

LIVEFRMNYC
Apr 30, 2013, 07:20 PM
you should qualify this with. .. if both have have the same specs and capability.

I think he is talking build quality with that example. Not necessarily specs. I would choose the ThinkPad over the Dell Inspiron any day even if they had the same specs. Although I've always considered ThinkPads as being ugly.

TacticalDesire
Apr 30, 2013, 07:31 PM
I like my phone to look somewhat decent and I don't use a case. Putting a case on quality hardware is like buying a leather sofa and covering it with bubble wrap. When I'm out and about between meetings, errands, etc. I like looking somewhat presentable and respectable and I like my phone to be an extension of that. So long as it is also both ergonomic and practical. Form has to equal function.

All that being said I don't think a phone puts one in a certain social status.

cynics
Apr 30, 2013, 08:06 PM
I just wish someone would give an analogy because me too stupid to think for me self!

surjavarman
Apr 30, 2013, 09:33 PM
I like to save the environment. Plastic is less environmental friendly than aluminum and glass which can be recycled.

And btw tons of people are using their phones naked. I have for years. The case thing is something I don't really understand. I find it materialistic and pretentious

sk1wbw
May 1, 2013, 04:46 AM
you should qualify this with. .. if both have have the same specs and capability.

These days, they all do.

cynics
May 1, 2013, 07:05 AM
I like to save the environment. Plastic is less environmental friendly than aluminum and glass which can be recycled.

And btw tons of people are using their phones naked. I have for years. The case thing is something I don't really understand. I find it materialistic and pretentious

/sarcasm?

DesertEagle
May 1, 2013, 07:33 AM
I see so many people obsessing over looks and what kind of materials are used in a phones build and I don't get it. The vast majority of people then take their phones and put them in a $20 case from a mall kiosk. You don't sit there staring at your naked phone, ok, maybe some do but most don't. S who cares what it's made out of or the lines in the design?

I'm not so sure if those who put a cheap plastic cover on, are the same ones who are obsessed about looks and build quality. They may be iPhone users for totally different reasons.

cynics
May 1, 2013, 07:51 AM
I'm not so sure if those who put a cheap plastic cover on, are the same ones who are obsessed about looks and build quality. They may be iPhone users for totally different reasons.

I'd imagine they are. I keep mine in a life proof case while its not cheap it's is cheap feeling IMO. However I do a lot of outdoorsy stuff so it serves a purpose and does a decent job at it. It's not uncommon for me to be using my iPhone in pouring down rain or it be covered in condensation for being exposed in a tent all night.

Irishman
May 1, 2013, 08:01 AM
I see so many people obsessing over looks and what kind of materials are used in a phones build and I don't get it. The vast majority of people then take their phones and put them in a $20 case from a mall kiosk. You don't sit there staring at your naked phone, ok, maybe some do but most don't. S who cares what it's made out of or the lines in the design?

Some of us want the things in our world to be beautiful.

Also, for me, I remember a long time ago a wise person said to me, regarding decluttering ones' life :"don't have anything in your life that isn't beautiful or useful, or better yet - both".

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Right, but you don't buy a Ferrari and then cover it up with an ugly, cheap plastic body kit to avoid it getting scuffed up. That's pretty much what people do with their phones though.

But you don't know what they do with the protective case once they get home. For all you know, off it comes.

tjl3
May 1, 2013, 09:46 AM
Some of us want the things in our world to be beautiful.

Also, for me, I remember a long time ago a wise person said to me, regarding decluttering ones' life :"don't have anything in your life that isn't beautiful or useful, or better yet - both".

In other words, it's human nature. To some, like Jony Ive and the HTC version of Jony Ive it's an art form. And to others, it is appreciative.

Arran
May 1, 2013, 10:08 AM
...I remember a long time ago a wise person said to me, regarding decluttering ones' life :"don't have anything in your life that isn't beautiful or useful, or better yet - both".

Good principle. I used to think Terence Conran came up with that. He certainly referenced it enough! Turns out it's by William Morris: "Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful"

The-Real-Deal82
May 3, 2013, 05:19 AM
Right, but you don't buy a Ferrari and then cover it up with an ugly, cheap plastic body kit to avoid it getting scuffed up. That's pretty much what people do with their phones though.

I've got a super slim clear case on my iPhone 5. It makes very little difference to the aesthetics of the phone and you are able to keep the form factor of the iPhone.

On the other hand if people want to add their own custom feel to their iPhone by adding a unique case to it, then so what? There are many people like yourself asking this question over and over and over and over again here and I really don't get why it matters to you so much. Its almost like you are demanding to know why the iPhone is so popular and those that buy it are doing so for silly reasons.

spinedoc77
May 3, 2013, 02:12 PM
I love the feel of good hardware, like the feel of a good watch on your wrist. I never have used any kind of case on any phone I've owned, I'm very careful with them and have never dropped one and I always pay to get a square trade warranty.

It's something intangible, and certainly something not everyone appreciates, nothing wrong with that. I like a nice solid watch on my wrist, others are more than happy with a Casio on their wrist, different strokes (no pun). I don't put function over form though, it's just one factor in my decision which phone to buy, but not the most important one.

Shrink
May 3, 2013, 02:14 PM
I love the feel of good hardware, like the feel of a good watch on your wrist. I never have used any kind of case on any phone I've owned, I'm very careful with them and have never dropped one and I always pay to get a square trade warranty.

It's something intangible, and certainly something not everyone appreciates, nothing wrong with that. I like a nice solid watch on my wrist, others are more than happy with a Casio on their wrist, different strokes (no pun). I don't put function over form though, it's just one factor in my decision which phone to buy, but not the most important one.

Says it very nicely for me, too.:D